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(KTVB Boise)   Telecoms want to get rid of the Do Not Call registry, call you at dinner time   (ktvb.com) divider line 32
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2013-01-24 05:38:08 PM  
10 votes:
FTFA: "The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers."

That's the point assholes.
2013-01-24 05:44:46 PM  
7 votes:
I've got a better idea, let's get rid of the Telecoms, instead.
2013-01-24 05:55:54 PM  
3 votes:

Uakronkid: serpent_sky:
The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.

If it has a postage paid return envelope, just rubberband that sucker to a brick and send it back. I guarantee they'll stop mailing you when it costs them $20 in postage every time they send you something.


Does that work? I thought I read somewhere that the post office wouldn't deliver a brick. (could be wrong)

Once every couple of weeks or so (usually while watching Top Gear) I gather all of the unsolicited offers, shuffle the contents around, then stuff the pre-paid envelopes with other random offers and send them back. Sometimes I include little random gift like the tattered UNO card my ferret pulled out of the heat register or a coupon for cat food the grocery store included with my receipt. Just to brighten the mail workers day.
2013-01-24 05:53:53 PM  
3 votes:
Telecoms: We could make more money if we were legally allowed to be more evil than we are now. We need you to commit political suicide for us.
Congress: Challenge considered.

/who am I kidding, they could eat a live baby during a debate and still get votes, as long as they promised to vote to make sure that baby couldn't be aborted
2013-01-24 07:00:39 PM  
2 votes:
Lobbyist and former Idaho Rep. Jim Clark says the bill gives customers the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls.

Any greedy, bastard politician that does deals with wealthy corporate lobbyists IMHO is guilty of TREASON and should be immediately kicked out of office - no trial, then frog-marked to the nearest stadium where they can be mercilessly mocked by REAL voters.

Than have all their assets taken from them, no pension, and tossed out on the street to live like a homeless person.

.
2013-01-24 06:48:31 PM  
2 votes:
IRQ12: By the way being a dick to the telemarketer for no reason does nothing to dissuade the people paying them. Don't blame the poor person making minimum wage for just doing what pays them to eat.

www.libertystickers.com

It's apart of the job they accepted. Like working retail and hating the hours.

My wife has cousins in Kansas who do nothing but biatch about how there are no jobs nor opportunities around them, but refuse to move elsewhere to where reasonable employment is. Our ancestors came across vast oceans for better opportunities, your asses can do the same and move to the city.
2013-01-24 06:04:20 PM  
2 votes:
Hey Telecoms, the ppl on the DNC list weren't & aren't going to buy your shiat anyways so explain how this will generate more business??
2013-01-24 05:42:19 PM  
2 votes:
Although it seems like fun, blowing a whistle into the phone is not going to do anything for a robo call. What I do when I get a call like this is to put the phone on the table and do something else for a while. It ties up their line for a while, thus sparing other consumers the agita.
2013-01-24 05:38:20 PM  
2 votes:
I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.
2013-01-25 06:42:31 PM  
1 votes:

elchupacabra: And yet mass killers shoot up schools instead of more "worthy" targets.

Seriously, how many people would care if a nutjob shot up a building full of "cold callers"?


Responsible firearm owners would. Any mass shooting will be used by the fascists as a reason to try to take our weapons.
2013-01-24 11:21:25 PM  
1 votes:

BigJake: People still use phones with wires?


I said, "IF THE CALL DROPS ONE MORE TIME, JUST CALL ME ON THE LANDLINE!"
leadership.gwabbit.com

Call clarity is also important those of us who are hearing impaired. Landlines are great for that. Cell phones tend to sound like garbled crap.
2013-01-24 09:34:55 PM  
1 votes:
What the hell is wrong with you people?! Answer the phone. Say, "Please remove this number from your list." Repeat. I promise this is more effective than ignoring the call or acting like a jackass. This is why I no longer receive calls like this. My MIL uses the don't-answer-the-phone routine, and gets five calls per day.

My method also works for when you get a new phone number that was previously owned by some deadbeat.

Stop with all the passive-aggressive BS and fix the problem.
2013-01-24 07:43:32 PM  
1 votes:

yukichigai: Claude Ballse: My wife has cousins in Kansas who do nothing but biatch about how there are no jobs nor opportunities around them, but refuse to move elsewhere to where reasonable employment is. Our ancestors came across vast oceans for better opportunities, your asses can do the same and move to the city.

Oh this old chestnut. Lawl.

Hey guess what? Moving requires money, and not a small amount either. You have to figure out how to end your current lease, then find a new place to move to, then find some way to box up all your stuff and move out. Even if you have friends who are willing to let you sleep on their couch, and more friends who are willing to play "combination U-Haul and Moving Service" for you, you're still talking about a bunch of money that someone has to spend to transport all of these goods plus your ass to a completely new town, which by the way may or may not even have a job for you at all. Oh, and you'll be leaving behind things like your friends, social life... y'know, the personal connections that might help you find a job in the first place, and exchanging it for a completely new city with maybe one or two people you know and no networking prospects.



Not to be all bootstrappy, but that is exactly what grown ups do instead of just biatch. Most of this country has roots with people who poured what little money they had into a one way boat ticket. Kind of makes these grumpy Kansans look like pussies.

/great grandpa took a boat ride from scotland, ended up in a coal mine in kansas. took him 5 years to save up enough money to ship the rest of the family over.
hej
2013-01-24 07:17:37 PM  
1 votes:

buckler: Farkers. Seems like every week I get a robocall from a place telling me I've won something, and that I need to claim it by calling another number (usually something ending in "DIRT" or "SMUT"and entering a code. There doesn't seem to be a human in the loop to tell I'm on the do-not-call list. Research indicates that this place specializes in fraudulent billing for porn calls. They're driving me nuts, and I'm not sure reporting these numbers to the FCC will do any good.


Not reporting it to the FCC does even less good, and it's really not that difficult to do.
2013-01-24 06:59:56 PM  
1 votes:

ajgeek: gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?

That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?

In a very significant portion of the U.S., especially in central/northern Maine, there are areas that don't even have cell coverage (fark what Verizon says), much less OPTIONS for cable or telephone.

/sent from my 6Mbit DSL modem.
//and I consider myself lucky to have that.


I regularly counsel some of my relatives in more remote locations of the country to get either A) multilink dial-up, or B) ISDN to improve their internet speed, because they are literally the best options available. ISDN has actually come a long way, I'm surprised to say. It used to be that it was the crappy 128k internet you paid for by the megabyte. These days almost everyone offers it in at least double that and unlimited download, even in craptastic middle-of-nowhere places.

Oh yes,m I'm not talking the same relatives, mind you. I have enough relatives in enough remote locations that it takes a while before they hear that their third cousin twice removed or whatever is good with computers and might have some advice.

Also, the DSL spec is a lot more flexible than the major telcos will admit. AT&T/etc. have distance requirements for getting you DSL at all, but if you go to a local provider (who probably are just reselling telco lines at a cheaper price) a lot of them will be willing to ignore the distance requirements entirely, so long as you understand that your bandwidth may not be very good. For someone living out in the boonies, low bandwidth DSL can still beat the pants off of dialup.

IRQ12: nickerj1: People actually answer their phones if they don't recognize number?

Before the DNC some people would get called incessantly. I wouldn't mind a call here and there but the constant dinnertime calls are obnoxious. They made their bed, time to sleep in it. The people behind the bill are the exact people who would have been on the other end of the line (well, their outsourced contractors making next to nothing).

By the way being a dick to the telemarketer for no reason does nothing to dissuade the people paying them. Don't blame the poor person making minimum wage for just doing what pays them to eat.


splitsider.com

Do I actually have to post the whole Clerks "Engineer working on the Death Star" rant?

These people know what the job is before they get into it. You can't excuse someone for doing something reprehensible just because "they were told to". I don't care if this is the only job they can get, the job involves being paid to be an asshole to people. If you can't deal with the consequences of being an asshole, don't take the job.
2013-01-24 06:44:38 PM  
1 votes:
Not only should they NOT get rid of the Do Not Call registry, they should extend it to cover political calls if the person wants to opt out of receiving them.

It will never happen without torches and pitchforks descending on Washington first, but a man can dream.

/Inconveniencing random people is not a valid business model.
2013-01-24 06:41:18 PM  
1 votes:
GOP: always looking out for the private citizen.
2013-01-24 06:40:34 PM  
1 votes:
FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

allthingsd.com

Telcos have been having their asses handed to them for the past 14 years by Cell Phone and Cable Companies. For telephone service, Land Lines would always try and force customers into adding on features like there was no tomorrow, until the bill became ridiculously high. Then Cell phones came along and bundled long distance and voicemail features in together.

Telcos tried to get the jump on data service, but failed miserably. ISDN was way too expensive for the average person, and too slow. Then they started introducing DSL and fell flat on their faces. Customers would have to be within range of the CO, and outside of that the company had to pony up about $20K for a DSLAM that would only serve about 4 customers. Neverminding of course that so many POTS were already buggered up by lazy-ass techs who for decades would simply install load coils rather than replace bad lines. So the load coils would not only filter out static but the necessary frequencies for DSL as well, thus causing a line to lose it's monetization abilities when it was disqualified. All cable companies had to do was dispatch fiber and tune-up their lines to seal the leakage and they were fine.

If I were a stock holder, I wouldn't touch Century-Link with a 10' cattle prod. Sprint knowing that it's land lines were a dying revenue stream as cellphones and cable modem-powered VoIP lines were stealing their customers (phone and data) decided to consolidate all of their loosing assets into a dummy corporation they called Embarq. Sprint kept their wireless services along with Nextel's Push to Talk features and decided to live high off the hog while Wall Street suckers dumped cash into the sales of Embarq which eventually became Century Link. Now as AT&T U-Verse and Google Fiber and creeping into the rural areas along with Wireless providers offering Cellular "Hot Spots" for data services, TELCOs are under attack again and are gasping for breath.

There will always be land lines, yes. But it's not going to be a business with explosive growth, let alone much of any at all. And were talking places like downtown regions and areas of major cities.
2013-01-24 06:30:52 PM  
1 votes:

nickerj1: People actually answer their phones if they don't recognize number?


Before the DNC some people would get called incessantly. I wouldn't mind a call here and there but the constant dinnertime calls are obnoxious. They made their bed, time to sleep in it. The people behind the bill are the exact people who would have been on the other end of the line (well, their outsourced contractors making next to nothing).

By the way being a dick to the telemarketer for no reason does nothing to dissuade the people paying them. Don't blame the poor person making minimum wage for just doing what pays them to eat.
2013-01-24 06:26:52 PM  
1 votes:
Lobbyist and former Idaho Rep. Jim Clark says the bill gives customers the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls.

We already have the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls. It's called the do-not-call list you farking stupid assed son of a biatch.
2013-01-24 06:26:47 PM  
1 votes:

gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?  That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?


As somebody on conference calls for several hours per day, having a land line is a necessity.  Not to mention that the call quality is a LOT better.


MassAsster: having cell phones and if spam phone calls were allowed to start up again, I would drop my home phone like a bad habit.


I actually get a fair number of unsolicited calls and texts to my cell phone.  I consider anti-telemarketer laws pretty much a failure.  I just want to see corporate personhood eliminated so that unsolicited calls can be completely banned.
2013-01-24 06:19:50 PM  
1 votes:

gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?

That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?


Well yeah, it came with my ADSL2+ service. Didn't know what the fark to do with it, so I'm running a dial-up BBS.
2013-01-24 06:12:33 PM  
1 votes:
At my former job we played telemarketer hot potato. I would tell the telemarketer that while I wasn't authorized I could transfer them to someone who was. I would put them on hold for a minute and then transfer them to another person in the office. That person would do the same thing and it would go through several hops before we got bored and it was transferred back to me. I have a very deep voice (Almost Barry White) and the last transfer would be back to me but my coworker would tell them that Shaniqua was the manager and would help them. I would make my voice as deep as possible and say "This is Shanqua, how can I help you?" Nobody ever got past Shaniqua.
2013-01-24 06:09:21 PM  
1 votes:
The Cruise call with the horn blowing is a scam apparently. Link
2013-01-24 06:00:12 PM  
1 votes:
We used to get a lot of calls from a certain company that has very rude, aggressive people on the phones. This was at work. They would demand the bosses cell number, act like they knew him, etc. The girl that answers the phone would never give it out, who would? They would then start cussing her out until she hung up. She's got some thick skin, so she would just put down the phone and mutter something about farking assholes. I had to cover the phone for her one day and of course got the call. When they demanded the bosses cell I gave them the rejection hotline. Man, when he called back I was farking rolling. He was so damned pissed. Calling me all sorts of shiat.

/csb
//look up your local rejection hotline. keep it handy.
2013-01-24 05:53:50 PM  
1 votes:
We get the robo calls that start with "The FBI has determined that the crime rate in your area is on the rise"
I guess by making it a public service announcement it's OK for them to call and try to sell you their burglar alarms.
2013-01-24 05:48:30 PM  
1 votes:
In Idaho. So you may continue not panicking.
2013-01-24 05:44:54 PM  
1 votes:

serpent_sky: I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


I kinda' miss the live telemarketers vs the robo calls I get now. It just isn't the same trying to creep out a robot by asking "hey there, what are you wearing ?" and sleazing on them until they hang up.
2013-01-24 05:43:33 PM  
1 votes:
The DNC list doesn't stop those effing scammers from calling day and night. I let my two year old answer those calls now.
2013-01-24 05:37:33 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Elandriel: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.

I'd say CSB but actually this is pretty spot-on.  We had the same problem with Qwest in MN regarding "activating long-distance service" which we didn't need because we had cell phones.  Ended up telling them if they called again I would conference in our lawyer and have him lay out exactly how much we were going to request in compensation.  Didn't hear from them after that.

In any case I don't think eliminating the Do-Not-Call Registry would play well across the electorate when they are suddenly inundated with telemarketing calls at all hours of the day.

I also got rhw "activating long-distance service" calls, which I had no need of. Other than the occasional 1-800 number, I don't make long distance calls. Qwest seemed to have a hard time understanding that, but as least they backed off about that much quicker than the satellite crap. This was well before I had a cell phone, but I'm not getting a service I have no need for.


Did you try this:
www.vanguardmil.com
Blow the cock farking sucker's ear drums out.

fark telemarketers
2013-01-24 05:36:01 PM  
1 votes:
[obvious]
2013-01-24 04:38:39 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.


I'd say CSB but actually this is pretty spot-on.  We had the same problem with Qwest in MN regarding "activating long-distance service" which we didn't need because we had cell phones.  Ended up telling them if they called again I would conference in our lawyer and have him lay out exactly how much we were going to request in compensation.  Didn't hear from them after that.

In any case I don't think eliminating the Do-Not-Call Registry would play well across the electorate when they are suddenly inundated with telemarketing calls at all hours of the day.
 
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