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2013-01-24 06:06:39 PM  

serpent_sky: The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


The catch is that all that junk mail postage is one of the few things keeping the USPS afloat in the face of having to fund the next fifty years of their pension fund in one go.
 
2013-01-24 06:08:21 PM  

serpent_sky: I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


You can opt out of this for 5 years before you have to renew. Read some of the very fine print towards the end of the 2 pages of fine print. Essentially, you call one of the big credit bureaus, and have them remove your name from the lists they give to CC companies.
 
2013-01-24 06:08:23 PM  
i propose an edit to this submission as follows:

"Telecoms want to get rid of the Do Not Call registry, because they have a death wish and have come to loathe their existence. call you at dinner time. found dead in apartment in the A.M. Do you believe in magic?"

See what I did there?
 
2013-01-24 06:09:21 PM  
The Cruise call with the horn blowing is a scam apparently. Link
 
2013-01-24 06:12:33 PM  
At my former job we played telemarketer hot potato. I would tell the telemarketer that while I wasn't authorized I could transfer them to someone who was. I would put them on hold for a minute and then transfer them to another person in the office. That person would do the same thing and it would go through several hops before we got bored and it was transferred back to me. I have a very deep voice (Almost Barry White) and the last transfer would be back to me but my coworker would tell them that Shaniqua was the manager and would help them. I would make my voice as deep as possible and say "This is Shanqua, how can I help you?" Nobody ever got past Shaniqua.
 
2013-01-24 06:13:26 PM  

red230: At my former job we played telemarketer hot potato. I would tell the telemarketer that while I wasn't authorized I could transfer them to someone who was. I would put them on hold for a minute and then transfer them to another person in the office. That person would do the same thing and it would go through several hops before we got bored and it was transferred back to me. I have a very deep voice (Almost Barry White) and the last transfer would be back to me but my coworker would tell them that Shaniqua was the manager and would help them. I would make my voice as deep as possible and say "This is Shanqua, how can I help you?" Nobody ever got past Shaniqua.


HAHA
 
2013-01-24 06:14:19 PM  
I get some call about Obama and property taxes, and one about a security system nearly every day, despite being on the Do Not Call registry. Apparently, they do not need to abide by the laws because they are based out of the country. I am curious to know how this is profitable at all. Who actually signs up for this crap?
 
2013-01-24 06:15:06 PM  

crotchgrabber: We used to get a lot of calls from a certain company that has very rude, aggressive people on the phones. This was at work. They would demand the bosses cell number, act like they knew him, etc. The girl that answers the phone would never give it out, who would? They would then start cussing her out until she hung up. She's got some thick skin, so she would just put down the phone and mutter something about farking assholes. I had to cover the phone for her one day and of course got the call. When they demanded the bosses cell I gave them the rejection hotline. Man, when he called back I was farking rolling. He was so damned pissed. Calling me all sorts of shiat.

/csb
//look up your local rejection hotline. keep it handy.


What's a rejection hotline?
 
2013-01-24 06:15:22 PM  

MassAsster: Honestly , with having cell phones and if spam phone calls were allowed to start up again, I would drop my home phone like a bad habit. If I didn't call you, chances are I don't want your sh*t product to start with. If I want it , I'll find you.

/Also stopped giving out my real phone number (home or cell) or E-mail years ago to ANY company.
//Make one up and stick with it
, that way it's like you own it and won't have to guess what number is on your stupid coupon tags / customer loyalty cards people always want to give you.


I'm sure the person who actually has that phone number really appreciate that too.
 
2013-01-24 06:16:33 PM  
Wait, people still have land lines? At home?

That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?
 
2013-01-24 06:16:37 PM  
Lobbyist and former Idaho Rep. Jim Clark says the bill gives customers the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls.

In some form of "Do Not Call" list?
 
2013-01-24 06:18:19 PM  

serpent_sky: The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


You're welcome.
 
2013-01-24 06:18:24 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: I get some call about Obama and property taxes, and one about a security system nearly every day, despite being on the Do Not Call registry. Apparently, they do not need to abide by the laws because they are based out of the country. I am curious to know how this is profitable at all. Who actually signs up for this crap?


Lonely old people who will talk to anybody and are easily confused.
 
2013-01-24 06:19:50 PM  

gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?

That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?


Well yeah, it came with my ADSL2+ service. Didn't know what the fark to do with it, so I'm running a dial-up BBS.
 
2013-01-24 06:20:57 PM  

downstairs: I believe there's a mail version similar to the DNC list. I swear I signed up years ago, and indeed the junk mail went way, way down.


Yes, that list does exist. However, you should know that bulk mail makes up over 80% of the USPS business. Without it, a postage stamp would cost you $60.

Telemarketers contribute nothing, however. fark them.
 
2013-01-24 06:21:25 PM  

robbiex0r: serpent_sky: I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.

You can opt out of this for 5 years before you have to renew. Read some of the very fine print towards the end of the 2 pages of fine print. Essentially, you call one of the big credit bureaus, and have them remove your name from the lists they give to CC companies.


I signed up for this and it does work. They warn that it takes a month or two for it to become "active" during which time you'll still receive mailings.

Here's something you can try: if you've already opted-out and still have, say, a year or two on your term, go ahead and opt-out again. When I tried this, I received a dozen or so CC applications over the next week or two. Keep in mind that my previous opt-out term should have still been in effect. I suspect what happens is CC companies are sent a list of pending additions to the opt-out list and so they trip over themselves to solicit you before your term goes into effect.
 
2013-01-24 06:22:09 PM  
Another way we'd mess with the telemarketers at my job is to sit and listen to their pitch and when they stop to ask me something I respond with "I'm sorry, I don't speak any English". It usually stops them dead in their tracks but sometimes they'll ask more questions and they get the "I'm sorry, I still don't speak English" response. We also set up a line that played the Rickroll song non stop and told the telemarketers that we were transferring them to the managers voicemail.
 
2013-01-24 06:23:13 PM  

serpent_sky: The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


I take those "business reply mail" envelopes, stuff them with the junk mail they sent me, and mail it back. It's best to shred any forms to be on the safe side.
 
2013-01-24 06:24:14 PM  
People actually answer their phones if they don't recognize number?
 
2013-01-24 06:26:27 PM  

gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?

That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?


In a very significant portion of the U.S., especially in central/northern Maine, there are areas that don't even have cell coverage (fark what Verizon says), much less OPTIONS for cable or telephone.

/sent from my 6Mbit DSL modem.
//and I consider myself lucky to have that.
 
2013-01-24 06:26:28 PM  

Broktun: Bathia_Mapes: Elandriel: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.

I'd say CSB but actually this is pretty spot-on.  We had the same problem with Qwest in MN regarding "activating long-distance service" which we didn't need because we had cell phones.  Ended up telling them if they called again I would conference in our lawyer and have him lay out exactly how much we were going to request in compensation.  Didn't hear from them after that.

In any case I don't think eliminating the Do-Not-Call Registry would play well across the electorate when they are suddenly inundated with telemarketing calls at all hours of the day.

I also got rhw "activating long-distance service" calls, which I had no need of. Other than the occasional 1-800 number, I don't make long distance calls. Qwest seemed to have a hard time understanding that, but as least they backed off about that much quicker than the satellite crap. This was well before I had a cell phone, but I'm not getting a service I have no need for.

Did you try this:
[www.vanguardmil.com image 250x250]
Blow the cock farkin ...


While fun to think about, this is probably illegal, and a bad idea regardless because you are punishing the wrong entity. The guy calling you is being paid shiat to sit in front of a phone all day calling numbers assigned to him and read a script dictated to him. He's got no say in the matter and very little if any ability to get his company to stop calling you.
 
2013-01-24 06:26:47 PM  

gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?  That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?


As somebody on conference calls for several hours per day, having a land line is a necessity.  Not to mention that the call quality is a LOT better.


MassAsster: having cell phones and if spam phone calls were allowed to start up again, I would drop my home phone like a bad habit.


I actually get a fair number of unsolicited calls and texts to my cell phone.  I consider anti-telemarketer laws pretty much a failure.  I just want to see corporate personhood eliminated so that unsolicited calls can be completely banned.
 
2013-01-24 06:26:52 PM  
Lobbyist and former Idaho Rep. Jim Clark says the bill gives customers the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls.

We already have the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls. It's called the do-not-call list you farking stupid assed son of a biatch.
 
2013-01-24 06:28:00 PM  

Broktun: Bathia_Mapes: Elandriel: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.

I'd say CSB but actually this is pretty spot-on.  We had the same problem with Qwest in MN regarding "activating long-distance service" which we didn't need because we had cell phones.  Ended up telling them if they called again I would conference in our lawyer and have him lay out exactly how much we were going to request in compensation.  Didn't hear from them after that.

In any case I don't think eliminating the Do-Not-Call Registry would play well across the electorate when they are suddenly inundated with telemarketing calls at all hours of the day.

I also got rhw "activating long-distance service" calls, which I had no need of. Other than the occasional 1-800 number, I don't make long distance calls. Qwest seemed to have a hard time understanding that, but as least they backed off about that much quicker than the satellite crap. This was well before I had a cell phone, but I'm not getting a service I have no need for.

Did you try this:
[www.vanguardmil.com image 250x250]
Blow the cock farkin ...


No and I wouldn't either. There are better ways of handling situations like this.
 
2013-01-24 06:28:08 PM  
Oh how I love the Do Not Disturb mode on iOS 6.
 
2013-01-24 06:29:43 PM  
Answering machine! I screen all my calls.
 
2013-01-24 06:30:52 PM  

nickerj1: People actually answer their phones if they don't recognize number?


Before the DNC some people would get called incessantly. I wouldn't mind a call here and there but the constant dinnertime calls are obnoxious. They made their bed, time to sleep in it. The people behind the bill are the exact people who would have been on the other end of the line (well, their outsourced contractors making next to nothing).

By the way being a dick to the telemarketer for no reason does nothing to dissuade the people paying them. Don't blame the poor person making minimum wage for just doing what pays them to eat.
 
2013-01-24 06:32:21 PM  
I use my land line as I do my spam email address. For the last 5 years, conversely, anyone who I want to talk to gets only my cell phone#.
 
2013-01-24 06:33:29 PM  
"Bill would left ban on cold calls"
WHO THE HELL is this Bill guy
 
2013-01-24 06:34:36 PM  
The tactic i use is when they call and ask for my name, i ask for their home phone number. When they ask why, i say "so i can call you in the evenings and early on the weekends before you're up, to try to sell you shiat you don't want. Hey, if you can do it, why cant I? They usually hang up on me. chuckles. Or tell them im too busy touching myself while making fapping sounds in the background, but if they want to hold on till im done, they can listen. Either way, they are hanging up on you.
 
2013-01-24 06:36:17 PM  
The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability makes it more expensive to market new services to new customers.

fark you.  That's what the law was made to do dickbags.  You want to market new services to new customers? Pay for a TV or radio spot, pay for a newspaper ad, pay for a mailer to be sent out to prospective customers like everyone else has to.
 
2013-01-24 06:37:55 PM  

Broktun:
Did you try this:
[www.vanguardmil.com image 250x250]
Blow the cock farkin ...


I have a similar approach, I use the foulest language I can imagine. They can't complain since they called me.
 
2013-01-24 06:38:40 PM  

Uakronkid: serpent_sky:
The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.

If it has a postage paid return envelope, just rubberband that sucker to a brick and send it back. I guarantee they'll stop mailing you when it costs them $20 in postage every time they send you something.


If this actually works....

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-24 06:38:51 PM  
In other news alcohol and tobacco companies want to remove all marketing and age restrictions to their products, pharmaceutical company's don't want to have to tell customers about side effects, and all corporations want to be able to make false claims without being held legally accountable for their statements.
 
2013-01-24 06:38:55 PM  
Does anyone under the age of 35 have a land line anymore? (not counting offices)
 
2013-01-24 06:39:25 PM  
Since I have VOIP, I just close the port, unless they're on my "approved" list. All others, "No sweat off my sack".
 
2013-01-24 06:40:34 PM  
FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

allthingsd.com

Telcos have been having their asses handed to them for the past 14 years by Cell Phone and Cable Companies. For telephone service, Land Lines would always try and force customers into adding on features like there was no tomorrow, until the bill became ridiculously high. Then Cell phones came along and bundled long distance and voicemail features in together.

Telcos tried to get the jump on data service, but failed miserably. ISDN was way too expensive for the average person, and too slow. Then they started introducing DSL and fell flat on their faces. Customers would have to be within range of the CO, and outside of that the company had to pony up about $20K for a DSLAM that would only serve about 4 customers. Neverminding of course that so many POTS were already buggered up by lazy-ass techs who for decades would simply install load coils rather than replace bad lines. So the load coils would not only filter out static but the necessary frequencies for DSL as well, thus causing a line to lose it's monetization abilities when it was disqualified. All cable companies had to do was dispatch fiber and tune-up their lines to seal the leakage and they were fine.

If I were a stock holder, I wouldn't touch Century-Link with a 10' cattle prod. Sprint knowing that it's land lines were a dying revenue stream as cellphones and cable modem-powered VoIP lines were stealing their customers (phone and data) decided to consolidate all of their loosing assets into a dummy corporation they called Embarq. Sprint kept their wireless services along with Nextel's Push to Talk features and decided to live high off the hog while Wall Street suckers dumped cash into the sales of Embarq which eventually became Century Link. Now as AT&T U-Verse and Google Fiber and creeping into the rural areas along with Wireless providers offering Cellular "Hot Spots" for data services, TELCOs are under attack again and are gasping for breath.

There will always be land lines, yes. But it's not going to be a business with explosive growth, let alone much of any at all. And were talking places like downtown regions and areas of major cities.
 
2013-01-24 06:41:18 PM  
GOP: always looking out for the private citizen.
 
2013-01-24 06:42:05 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: Does anyone under the age of 35 have a land line anymore? (not counting offices)


I'm over 35; but in my case, I have it for only two reasons. it comes with the bundle and is cheaper to keep it than to get Internet and TV separately. Also, it is good to have for reverse 911 calls. (I live in a wildfire area)
 
2013-01-24 06:42:35 PM  

you have pee hands: I only get one robocall regularly but it's from a cruise line and starts with a foghorn. Why the blue fark do they think that's going to get me to do anything but hang up immediately?


Oh my God. We all get this one at work. It's grating.
 
2013-01-24 06:42:35 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: The tactic i use is when they call and ask for my name, i ask for their home phone number. When they ask why, i say "so i can call you in the evenings and early on the weekends before you're up, to try to sell you shiat you don't want. Hey, if you can do it, why cant I? They usually hang up on me. chuckles. Or tell them im too busy touching myself while making fapping sounds in the background, but if they want to hold on till im done, they can listen. Either way, they are hanging up on you.



What I used to do was tell them "I'm very interested, but hang on!" and put them on hold and then set the phone down and go somewhere else.

Considering how much call volume they have to have, wasting a few minutes of time was my part in demolishing the profit. One marketer actually stayed on hold for 7 minutes before moving on.
 
2013-01-24 06:44:38 PM  
Not only should they NOT get rid of the Do Not Call registry, they should extend it to cover political calls if the person wants to opt out of receiving them.

It will never happen without torches and pitchforks descending on Washington first, but a man can dream.

/Inconveniencing random people is not a valid business model.
 
2013-01-24 06:44:52 PM  

nickerj1: People actually answer their phones if they don't recognize number?


Sadly, my job puts me in a position where I could be receiving emergency calls either from new staff whose numbers I don't yet have, or from clients who have my number as the emergency contact. So except for a small portion of the year when we have no active clients, I don't have the luxury of ignoring unknown numbers, no matter what time of day.
 
2013-01-24 06:47:32 PM  
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-01-24 06:48:31 PM  
IRQ12: By the way being a dick to the telemarketer for no reason does nothing to dissuade the people paying them. Don't blame the poor person making minimum wage for just doing what pays them to eat.

www.libertystickers.com

It's apart of the job they accepted. Like working retail and hating the hours.

My wife has cousins in Kansas who do nothing but biatch about how there are no jobs nor opportunities around them, but refuse to move elsewhere to where reasonable employment is. Our ancestors came across vast oceans for better opportunities, your asses can do the same and move to the city.
 
2013-01-24 06:51:24 PM  
We are cell only and have naked DSL. (We opted out of any ISP services, like mail.) I like cell only as I can answer or not on my own line, the others can do as they please. The ringtone for any unknown call is "Cocaine" I check the number, see how long they ring as I don't have voice mail (I use a call log)
then look up the number in 800 notes. If the callers don't spoof a number, I have a black list.

I've accidentally opened a slider phone and had the telemarketer screaming and pleading for me to answer. I could hear her with the phone 2 1/2 feet away.

We got pestered by Visa at work. Our business didn't deal with customers - we didn't need a business Visa.
After about 10 calls in a row, my boss said to give him the next one. He must have ripped the caller a new one - she called back and told me where he could stick his answer. They didn't call back after that one.

Until I can get sports only - I don't want cable. There's too many interesting scientific vids from all over to even want a movie.
 
2013-01-24 06:51:48 PM  
You call center f*ckers could cold call these guys or maybe just go up to their gated community and try to blam blam blam blam. Ooops. sorry about the landmines.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-24 06:52:13 PM  
The first and only telecom semi-cold call I ever got was from Verizon FiOS the other day. Increase my internet speed from 25/25 to 50/25 for an additional $5.

"OK, hook me up"
(was thinking about doing it anyway) Should kick in in a day or two.

However I do have an existing business relationship with them, so under the current rules it is OK.

The other spam calls, OTOH, that usually end up on my little used cell....they need to DIAF.
 
2013-01-24 06:53:33 PM  
Didn't I read somewhere...not long ago...that our elected officials are on the "telemarketers are not allowed to call us by law" list??
I could be wrong, but if I'm not, this story makes perfect sense! Telemarketers can then run RAMPID through the phone numbers, & our elected officials won't ever get bothered by someone wanting to give them a free cruise!

HOOOOONNNNNKKKKKK!!!!!
 
2013-01-24 06:53:55 PM  
We've resigned ourselves to getting these calls now, at least as long as we keep a landline, which is looking increasingly unnecessary.

However, we have a game in our house- if it's during telemarketing hours (and we all know those), If someone is around you can make them answer it as a character of your choosing.  My youngest daughter gave me "gay pirate" about a week ago just before picking up a call from a telecommunications reseller.  She responded by giving me Donald Duck yesterday.

Might as well have some fun with it.
 
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