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2013-01-24 04:30:15 PM  
FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.
 
2013-01-24 04:38:39 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.


I'd say CSB but actually this is pretty spot-on.  We had the same problem with Qwest in MN regarding "activating long-distance service" which we didn't need because we had cell phones.  Ended up telling them if they called again I would conference in our lawyer and have him lay out exactly how much we were going to request in compensation.  Didn't hear from them after that.

In any case I don't think eliminating the Do-Not-Call Registry would play well across the electorate when they are suddenly inundated with telemarketing calls at all hours of the day.
 
2013-01-24 05:08:04 PM  

Elandriel: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.

I'd say CSB but actually this is pretty spot-on.  We had the same problem with Qwest in MN regarding "activating long-distance service" which we didn't need because we had cell phones.  Ended up telling them if they called again I would conference in our lawyer and have him lay out exactly how much we were going to request in compensation.  Didn't hear from them after that.

In any case I don't think eliminating the Do-Not-Call Registry would play well across the electorate when they are suddenly inundated with telemarketing calls at all hours of the day.


I also got rhw "activating long-distance service" calls, which I had no need of. Other than the occasional 1-800 number, I don't make long distance calls. Qwest seemed to have a hard time understanding that, but as least they backed off about that much quicker than the satellite crap. This was well before I had a cell phone, but I'm not getting a service I have no need for.
 
2013-01-24 05:35:17 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.


Yeah, that does suck.  Cox calls me like every 2 months, no big deal.  However... I don't *think* the Do Not Call registry would help you in this case anyway.  You're their customer, you have an established business relationship.  I believe they can call you all they want.

Its terrible PR though.
 
2013-01-24 05:36:01 PM  
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2013-01-24 05:37:33 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Elandriel: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.

I'd say CSB but actually this is pretty spot-on.  We had the same problem with Qwest in MN regarding "activating long-distance service" which we didn't need because we had cell phones.  Ended up telling them if they called again I would conference in our lawyer and have him lay out exactly how much we were going to request in compensation.  Didn't hear from them after that.

In any case I don't think eliminating the Do-Not-Call Registry would play well across the electorate when they are suddenly inundated with telemarketing calls at all hours of the day.

I also got rhw "activating long-distance service" calls, which I had no need of. Other than the occasional 1-800 number, I don't make long distance calls. Qwest seemed to have a hard time understanding that, but as least they backed off about that much quicker than the satellite crap. This was well before I had a cell phone, but I'm not getting a service I have no need for.


Did you try this:
www.vanguardmil.com
Blow the cock farking sucker's ear drums out.

fark telemarketers
 
2013-01-24 05:38:08 PM  
FTFA: "The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers."

That's the point assholes.
 
2013-01-24 05:38:20 PM  
I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.
 
2013-01-24 05:38:56 PM  
I hardly ever get cold calls, but someone has been using my number at, of all places, car dealerships. I guess they want to test drive the car and not get callbacks, but it's happened like 5 times now.
 
2013-01-24 05:42:19 PM  
Although it seems like fun, blowing a whistle into the phone is not going to do anything for a robo call. What I do when I get a call like this is to put the phone on the table and do something else for a while. It ties up their line for a while, thus sparing other consumers the agita.
 
2013-01-24 05:43:33 PM  
The DNC list doesn't stop those effing scammers from calling day and night. I let my two year old answer those calls now.
 
2013-01-24 05:44:46 PM  
I've got a better idea, let's get rid of the Telecoms, instead.
 
2013-01-24 05:44:54 PM  

serpent_sky: I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


I kinda' miss the live telemarketers vs the robo calls I get now. It just isn't the same trying to creep out a robot by asking "hey there, what are you wearing ?" and sleazing on them until they hang up.
 
2013-01-24 05:44:55 PM  

serpent_sky: The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


I believe there's a mail version similar to the DNC list.  I swear I signed up years ago, and indeed the junk mail went way, way down.
 
2013-01-24 05:45:10 PM  
Let them pass it. I don't answer my home phone. And my cellphone is white-listed, so if you aren't in my directory, it doesn't ring or go to voicemail -- the call just cuts out.
 
2013-01-24 05:45:38 PM  
If they do away with the do not call list, I will resort to the most obnoxious methods of getting them to hang up and not call back that I can come up with. I hate telemarketers and have no need for them. If I want something I'll seek it out.
 
2013-01-24 05:45:39 PM  
The House State Affairs Committee introduced the bill Thursday and sent it to the Business Committee for review.

Now which of our Congress-folks just received a nice donation I wonder. (How could ANYONE think this is a good idea?)
 
2013-01-24 05:46:47 PM  

downstairs: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.

Yeah, that does suck.  Cox calls me like every 2 months, no big deal.  However... I don't *think* the Do Not Call registry would help you in this case anyway.  You're their customer, you have an established business relationship.  I believe they can call you all they want.

Its terrible PR though.


Granted I was their customer, but I also have the right to ask them to stop calling me, even if I have an existing relationship with them. That applies to any and all third party companies they hire to telemarket their services.
 
2013-01-24 05:46:58 PM  
Although it seems like fun, blowing a whistle into the phone is not going to do anything for a robo call. What I do when I get a call like this is to put the phone on the table and do something else for a while. It ties up their line for a while, thus sparing other consumers the agita.

Bingo, this is what I did. I'd say "hey, let me get my wife, she's handles all the bills". Then I'd set the phone down and go back to what I was doing.
 
2013-01-24 05:47:07 PM  
I used to gets lots of telemarketing calls, but when I started answering the phone as if I was calling a sex line they started to decline. Now I hardly get any telemarketing calls at all.

/I'm so lonely :(
 
2013-01-24 05:47:08 PM  

serpent_sky:
The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


If it has a postage paid return envelope, just rubberband that sucker to a brick and send it back. I guarantee they'll stop mailing you when it costs them $20 in postage every time they send you something.
 
2013-01-24 05:47:12 PM  
I simply never answer the phone directly. I let the answering machine get it, and my friends/family know I'll pick up if it's them. I get a wee little bit of sadistic satisfaction listening to the telemarketers trying and trying and *trying* to get ahold of me.....
 
2013-01-24 05:47:35 PM  

K3rmy: The House State Affairs Committee introduced the bill Thursday and sent it to the Business Committee for review.

Now which of our Congress-folks just received a nice donation I wonder. (How could ANYONE think this is a good idea?)


I get the impression that this is the Idaho government.
 
2013-01-24 05:48:30 PM  
In Idaho. So you may continue not panicking.
 
2013-01-24 05:48:45 PM  
Why? It's not like it stops them."Cold calls" have just become "well, clearly you must have signed up for our newsletter somewhere.." to get around it.
 
2013-01-24 05:49:43 PM  

SpaceBison: I used to gets lots of telemarketing calls, but when I started answering the phone as if I was calling a sex line they started to decline. Now I hardly get any telemarketing calls at all.

/I'm so lonely :(


Awwww.

/what are you wearing?
 
2013-01-24 05:51:39 PM  

Uakronkid: serpent_sky:
The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.

If it has a postage paid return envelope, just rubberband that sucker to a brick and send it back. I guarantee they'll stop mailing you when it costs them $20 in postage every time they send you something.


My apartment manager might find it suspicious if I'm seen pushing a wheelbarrow full of bricks into the elevator.
 
2013-01-24 05:51:45 PM  
Just keep saying hello over and over again any time they say anything, but do it in a way that makes it sound like you have like 50 personalities
 
2013-01-24 05:52:04 PM  
I only get one robocall regularly but it's from a cruise line and starts with a foghorn. Why the blue fark do they think that's going to get me to do anything but hang up immediately?
 
2013-01-24 05:52:35 PM  

Litig8r: Let them pass it. I don't answer my home phone. And my cellphone is white-listed, so if you aren't in my directory, it doesn't ring or go to voicemail -- the call just cuts out.


Same deal here, but my cell phone is the only phone I have and only those people in my contacts can get through to my phone other calls are just dropped with no notification presented to me that a call had even be made to my phone. On another note I never answer the door to my house anyone that I would allow into my house has a key and knows to call before coming over. I am not unfriendly I am a very outgoing person, but I know if someone I do not know calls or comes to my door they want money from me and the answer from me is going to be no.
 
2013-01-24 05:53:50 PM  
We get the robo calls that start with "The FBI has determined that the crime rate in your area is on the rise"
I guess by making it a public service announcement it's OK for them to call and try to sell you their burglar alarms.
 
2013-01-24 05:53:53 PM  
Telecoms: We could make more money if we were legally allowed to be more evil than we are now. We need you to commit political suicide for us.
Congress: Challenge considered.

/who am I kidding, they could eat a live baby during a debate and still get votes, as long as they promised to vote to make sure that baby couldn't be aborted
 
2013-01-24 05:54:07 PM  
I've gotten a couple of calls that when I answer, I hear a ship horn blast then a voice comes on offering a free cruise. The first time I listened to the pitch, after that, the horn blast doesn't even finish before I hang up.
 
2013-01-24 05:55:10 PM  
Telemarketers, pfft. We didn't have much of a problem with them. LifeSource on the other hand...
 
2013-01-24 05:55:21 PM  
Keep a soundboard handy.
 
2013-01-24 05:55:54 PM  

Uakronkid: serpent_sky:
The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.

If it has a postage paid return envelope, just rubberband that sucker to a brick and send it back. I guarantee they'll stop mailing you when it costs them $20 in postage every time they send you something.


Does that work? I thought I read somewhere that the post office wouldn't deliver a brick. (could be wrong)

Once every couple of weeks or so (usually while watching Top Gear) I gather all of the unsolicited offers, shuffle the contents around, then stuff the pre-paid envelopes with other random offers and send them back. Sometimes I include little random gift like the tattered UNO card my ferret pulled out of the heat register or a coupon for cat food the grocery store included with my receipt. Just to brighten the mail workers day.
 
2013-01-24 05:56:31 PM  
Keep a whoopee cushion by the phone.
 
2013-01-24 05:57:19 PM  

Broktun: Bathia_Mapes: Elandriel: Bathia_Mapes:


Did you try this:
[www.vanguardmil.com image 250x250]
Blow the cock farkin ...


Right...because the barely-educated mother of three, who took the only job she could find after her alcoholic husband died, is to blame for creating a nuisance marketing plan.
 
2013-01-24 05:57:33 PM  

Skyd1v: Once every couple of weeks or so (usually while watching Top Gear) I gather all of the unsolicited offers, shuffle the contents around, then stuff the pre-paid envelopes with other random offers and send them back. Sometimes I include little random gift like the tattered UNO card my ferret pulled out of the heat register or a coupon for cat food the grocery store included with my receipt. Just to brighten the mail workers day.


This idea. Zul likes.
 
2013-01-24 05:59:01 PM  

lewismarktwo: I hardly ever get cold calls, but someone has been using my number at, of all places, car dealerships. I guess they want to test drive the car and not get callbacks, but it's happened like 5 times now.


About 5 years ago, someone listed my number in an auto trader magazine. After telling two people they had the wrong number only to have them dial back immediately (guess they thought they fat-fingered the number), it occurred to me that the best way to keep these people from calling back is to make them not want whatever they're calling about. So the next three or four calls went something like this:

"Hi, I'm calling about the Tempo you have listed in the classifieds..."

"Erm. Yeah. I'm afraid I can't sell it now. Seems the fuel injector got stuck and the resulting backfire blew the muffler up through the trunk and into the neighbor's yard. Need to get that fixed...."

Not a single person called back.

Fortunately, only a handful of people ever called about the car (who'd want a Tempo anyway?)...
 
2013-01-24 05:59:21 PM  

you have pee hands: I only get one robocall regularly but it's from a cruise line and starts with a foghorn. Why the blue fark do they think that's going to get me to do anything but hang up immediately?


I get those on my mobile.
 
2013-01-24 05:59:57 PM  

Skyd1v: Uakronkid: serpent_sky:
The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.

If it has a postage paid return envelope, just rubberband that sucker to a brick and send it back. I guarantee they'll stop mailing you when it costs them $20 in postage every time they send you something.

Does that work? I thought I read somewhere that the post office wouldn't deliver a brick. (could be wrong)

Once every couple of weeks or so (usually while watching Top Gear) I gather all of the unsolicited offers, shuffle the contents around, then stuff the pre-paid envelopes with other random offers and send them back. Sometimes I include little random gift like the tattered UNO card my ferret pulled out of the heat register or a coupon for cat food the grocery store included with my receipt. Just to brighten the mail workers day.


It's sheet metal for pre-paid postage envelopes.

If it's a postcard, draw Satanist symbols, verses, and write a dark blessing to the CEO.
 
2013-01-24 06:00:12 PM  
We used to get a lot of calls from a certain company that has very rude, aggressive people on the phones. This was at work. They would demand the bosses cell number, act like they knew him, etc. The girl that answers the phone would never give it out, who would? They would then start cussing her out until she hung up. She's got some thick skin, so she would just put down the phone and mutter something about farking assholes. I had to cover the phone for her one day and of course got the call. When they demanded the bosses cell I gave them the rejection hotline. Man, when he called back I was farking rolling. He was so damned pissed. Calling me all sorts of shiat.

/csb
//look up your local rejection hotline. keep it handy.
 
2013-01-24 06:02:04 PM  

Skyd1v: Uakronkid: serpent_sky:
The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.

If it has a postage paid return envelope, just rubberband that sucker to a brick and send it back. I guarantee they'll stop mailing you when it costs them $20 in postage every time they send you something.

Does that work? I thought I read somewhere that the post office wouldn't deliver a brick. (could be wrong)

Once every couple of weeks or so (usually while watching Top Gear) I gather all of the unsolicited offers, shuffle the contents around, then stuff the pre-paid envelopes with other random offers and send them back. Sometimes I include little random gift like the tattered UNO card my ferret pulled out of the heat register or a coupon for cat food the grocery store included with my receipt. Just to brighten the mail workers day.


I'm pretty sure that a brick is too heavy for normal mail delivery. That whole 13 oz thing they have going on because everybody knows a brick is a bomb.

Sand, small rocks, bones of dead critters, etc. on the other hand can be mailed. Just keep the weight to about 10-12 oz and you'll get much the same effect. You can also get a bunch of chick tracks, desecrate them with satanic drawings and mail them back.
 
2013-01-24 06:02:46 PM  
FTFA Lobbyist and former Idaho Rep. Jim Clark says the bill gives customers the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls.

static4.fjcdn.com
 
2013-01-24 06:04:11 PM  
"EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOO This is your captain speaking...."
 
2013-01-24 06:04:20 PM  
Hey Telecoms, the ppl on the DNC list weren't & aren't going to buy your shiat anyways so explain how this will generate more business??
 
2013-01-24 06:04:52 PM  
Farkers. Seems like every week I get a robocall from a place telling me I've won something, and that I need to claim it by calling another number (usually something ending in "DIRT" or "SMUT"and entering a code. There doesn't seem to be a human in the loop to tell I'm on the do-not-call list. Research indicates that this place specializes in fraudulent billing for porn calls. They're driving me nuts, and I'm not sure reporting these numbers to the FCC will do any good.
 
2013-01-24 06:04:56 PM  
Honestly , with having cell phones and if spam phone calls were allowed to start up again, I would drop my home phone like a bad habit. If I didn't call you, chances are I don't want your sh*t product to start with. If I want it , I'll find you.

/Also stopped giving out my real phone number (home or cell) or E-mail years ago to ANY company.
//Make one up and stick with it, that way it's like you own it and won't have to guess what number is on your stupid coupon tags / customer loyalty cards people always want to give you.
 
2013-01-24 06:05:12 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.


Boy, they caught on to that in no time.
 
2013-01-24 06:06:39 PM  

serpent_sky: The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


The catch is that all that junk mail postage is one of the few things keeping the USPS afloat in the face of having to fund the next fifty years of their pension fund in one go.
 
2013-01-24 06:08:21 PM  

serpent_sky: I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


You can opt out of this for 5 years before you have to renew. Read some of the very fine print towards the end of the 2 pages of fine print. Essentially, you call one of the big credit bureaus, and have them remove your name from the lists they give to CC companies.
 
2013-01-24 06:08:23 PM  
i propose an edit to this submission as follows:

"Telecoms want to get rid of the Do Not Call registry, because they have a death wish and have come to loathe their existence. call you at dinner time. found dead in apartment in the A.M. Do you believe in magic?"

See what I did there?
 
2013-01-24 06:09:21 PM  
The Cruise call with the horn blowing is a scam apparently. Link
 
2013-01-24 06:12:33 PM  
At my former job we played telemarketer hot potato. I would tell the telemarketer that while I wasn't authorized I could transfer them to someone who was. I would put them on hold for a minute and then transfer them to another person in the office. That person would do the same thing and it would go through several hops before we got bored and it was transferred back to me. I have a very deep voice (Almost Barry White) and the last transfer would be back to me but my coworker would tell them that Shaniqua was the manager and would help them. I would make my voice as deep as possible and say "This is Shanqua, how can I help you?" Nobody ever got past Shaniqua.
 
2013-01-24 06:13:26 PM  

red230: At my former job we played telemarketer hot potato. I would tell the telemarketer that while I wasn't authorized I could transfer them to someone who was. I would put them on hold for a minute and then transfer them to another person in the office. That person would do the same thing and it would go through several hops before we got bored and it was transferred back to me. I have a very deep voice (Almost Barry White) and the last transfer would be back to me but my coworker would tell them that Shaniqua was the manager and would help them. I would make my voice as deep as possible and say "This is Shanqua, how can I help you?" Nobody ever got past Shaniqua.


HAHA
 
2013-01-24 06:14:19 PM  
I get some call about Obama and property taxes, and one about a security system nearly every day, despite being on the Do Not Call registry. Apparently, they do not need to abide by the laws because they are based out of the country. I am curious to know how this is profitable at all. Who actually signs up for this crap?
 
2013-01-24 06:15:06 PM  

crotchgrabber: We used to get a lot of calls from a certain company that has very rude, aggressive people on the phones. This was at work. They would demand the bosses cell number, act like they knew him, etc. The girl that answers the phone would never give it out, who would? They would then start cussing her out until she hung up. She's got some thick skin, so she would just put down the phone and mutter something about farking assholes. I had to cover the phone for her one day and of course got the call. When they demanded the bosses cell I gave them the rejection hotline. Man, when he called back I was farking rolling. He was so damned pissed. Calling me all sorts of shiat.

/csb
//look up your local rejection hotline. keep it handy.


What's a rejection hotline?
 
2013-01-24 06:15:22 PM  

MassAsster: Honestly , with having cell phones and if spam phone calls were allowed to start up again, I would drop my home phone like a bad habit. If I didn't call you, chances are I don't want your sh*t product to start with. If I want it , I'll find you.

/Also stopped giving out my real phone number (home or cell) or E-mail years ago to ANY company.
//Make one up and stick with it
, that way it's like you own it and won't have to guess what number is on your stupid coupon tags / customer loyalty cards people always want to give you.


I'm sure the person who actually has that phone number really appreciate that too.
 
2013-01-24 06:16:33 PM  
Wait, people still have land lines? At home?

That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?
 
2013-01-24 06:16:37 PM  
Lobbyist and former Idaho Rep. Jim Clark says the bill gives customers the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls.

In some form of "Do Not Call" list?
 
2013-01-24 06:18:19 PM  

serpent_sky: The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


You're welcome.
 
2013-01-24 06:18:24 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: I get some call about Obama and property taxes, and one about a security system nearly every day, despite being on the Do Not Call registry. Apparently, they do not need to abide by the laws because they are based out of the country. I am curious to know how this is profitable at all. Who actually signs up for this crap?


Lonely old people who will talk to anybody and are easily confused.
 
2013-01-24 06:19:50 PM  

gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?

That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?


Well yeah, it came with my ADSL2+ service. Didn't know what the fark to do with it, so I'm running a dial-up BBS.
 
2013-01-24 06:20:57 PM  

downstairs: I believe there's a mail version similar to the DNC list. I swear I signed up years ago, and indeed the junk mail went way, way down.


Yes, that list does exist. However, you should know that bulk mail makes up over 80% of the USPS business. Without it, a postage stamp would cost you $60.

Telemarketers contribute nothing, however. fark them.
 
2013-01-24 06:21:25 PM  

robbiex0r: serpent_sky: I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.

You can opt out of this for 5 years before you have to renew. Read some of the very fine print towards the end of the 2 pages of fine print. Essentially, you call one of the big credit bureaus, and have them remove your name from the lists they give to CC companies.


I signed up for this and it does work. They warn that it takes a month or two for it to become "active" during which time you'll still receive mailings.

Here's something you can try: if you've already opted-out and still have, say, a year or two on your term, go ahead and opt-out again. When I tried this, I received a dozen or so CC applications over the next week or two. Keep in mind that my previous opt-out term should have still been in effect. I suspect what happens is CC companies are sent a list of pending additions to the opt-out list and so they trip over themselves to solicit you before your term goes into effect.
 
2013-01-24 06:22:09 PM  
Another way we'd mess with the telemarketers at my job is to sit and listen to their pitch and when they stop to ask me something I respond with "I'm sorry, I don't speak any English". It usually stops them dead in their tracks but sometimes they'll ask more questions and they get the "I'm sorry, I still don't speak English" response. We also set up a line that played the Rickroll song non stop and told the telemarketers that we were transferring them to the managers voicemail.
 
2013-01-24 06:23:13 PM  

serpent_sky: The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


I take those "business reply mail" envelopes, stuff them with the junk mail they sent me, and mail it back. It's best to shred any forms to be on the safe side.
 
2013-01-24 06:24:14 PM  
People actually answer their phones if they don't recognize number?
 
2013-01-24 06:26:27 PM  

gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?

That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?


In a very significant portion of the U.S., especially in central/northern Maine, there are areas that don't even have cell coverage (fark what Verizon says), much less OPTIONS for cable or telephone.

/sent from my 6Mbit DSL modem.
//and I consider myself lucky to have that.
 
2013-01-24 06:26:28 PM  

Broktun: Bathia_Mapes: Elandriel: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.

I'd say CSB but actually this is pretty spot-on.  We had the same problem with Qwest in MN regarding "activating long-distance service" which we didn't need because we had cell phones.  Ended up telling them if they called again I would conference in our lawyer and have him lay out exactly how much we were going to request in compensation.  Didn't hear from them after that.

In any case I don't think eliminating the Do-Not-Call Registry would play well across the electorate when they are suddenly inundated with telemarketing calls at all hours of the day.

I also got rhw "activating long-distance service" calls, which I had no need of. Other than the occasional 1-800 number, I don't make long distance calls. Qwest seemed to have a hard time understanding that, but as least they backed off about that much quicker than the satellite crap. This was well before I had a cell phone, but I'm not getting a service I have no need for.

Did you try this:
[www.vanguardmil.com image 250x250]
Blow the cock farkin ...


While fun to think about, this is probably illegal, and a bad idea regardless because you are punishing the wrong entity. The guy calling you is being paid shiat to sit in front of a phone all day calling numbers assigned to him and read a script dictated to him. He's got no say in the matter and very little if any ability to get his company to stop calling you.
 
2013-01-24 06:26:47 PM  

gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?  That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?


As somebody on conference calls for several hours per day, having a land line is a necessity.  Not to mention that the call quality is a LOT better.


MassAsster: having cell phones and if spam phone calls were allowed to start up again, I would drop my home phone like a bad habit.


I actually get a fair number of unsolicited calls and texts to my cell phone.  I consider anti-telemarketer laws pretty much a failure.  I just want to see corporate personhood eliminated so that unsolicited calls can be completely banned.
 
2013-01-24 06:26:52 PM  
Lobbyist and former Idaho Rep. Jim Clark says the bill gives customers the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls.

We already have the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls. It's called the do-not-call list you farking stupid assed son of a biatch.
 
2013-01-24 06:28:00 PM  

Broktun: Bathia_Mapes: Elandriel: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.

I'd say CSB but actually this is pretty spot-on.  We had the same problem with Qwest in MN regarding "activating long-distance service" which we didn't need because we had cell phones.  Ended up telling them if they called again I would conference in our lawyer and have him lay out exactly how much we were going to request in compensation.  Didn't hear from them after that.

In any case I don't think eliminating the Do-Not-Call Registry would play well across the electorate when they are suddenly inundated with telemarketing calls at all hours of the day.

I also got rhw "activating long-distance service" calls, which I had no need of. Other than the occasional 1-800 number, I don't make long distance calls. Qwest seemed to have a hard time understanding that, but as least they backed off about that much quicker than the satellite crap. This was well before I had a cell phone, but I'm not getting a service I have no need for.

Did you try this:
[www.vanguardmil.com image 250x250]
Blow the cock farkin ...


No and I wouldn't either. There are better ways of handling situations like this.
 
2013-01-24 06:28:08 PM  
Oh how I love the Do Not Disturb mode on iOS 6.
 
2013-01-24 06:29:43 PM  
Answering machine! I screen all my calls.
 
2013-01-24 06:30:52 PM  

nickerj1: People actually answer their phones if they don't recognize number?


Before the DNC some people would get called incessantly. I wouldn't mind a call here and there but the constant dinnertime calls are obnoxious. They made their bed, time to sleep in it. The people behind the bill are the exact people who would have been on the other end of the line (well, their outsourced contractors making next to nothing).

By the way being a dick to the telemarketer for no reason does nothing to dissuade the people paying them. Don't blame the poor person making minimum wage for just doing what pays them to eat.
 
2013-01-24 06:32:21 PM  
I use my land line as I do my spam email address. For the last 5 years, conversely, anyone who I want to talk to gets only my cell phone#.
 
2013-01-24 06:33:29 PM  
"Bill would left ban on cold calls"
WHO THE HELL is this Bill guy
 
2013-01-24 06:34:36 PM  
The tactic i use is when they call and ask for my name, i ask for their home phone number. When they ask why, i say "so i can call you in the evenings and early on the weekends before you're up, to try to sell you shiat you don't want. Hey, if you can do it, why cant I? They usually hang up on me. chuckles. Or tell them im too busy touching myself while making fapping sounds in the background, but if they want to hold on till im done, they can listen. Either way, they are hanging up on you.
 
2013-01-24 06:36:17 PM  
The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability makes it more expensive to market new services to new customers.

fark you.  That's what the law was made to do dickbags.  You want to market new services to new customers? Pay for a TV or radio spot, pay for a newspaper ad, pay for a mailer to be sent out to prospective customers like everyone else has to.
 
2013-01-24 06:37:55 PM  

Broktun:
Did you try this:
[www.vanguardmil.com image 250x250]
Blow the cock farkin ...


I have a similar approach, I use the foulest language I can imagine. They can't complain since they called me.
 
2013-01-24 06:38:40 PM  

Uakronkid: serpent_sky:
The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.

If it has a postage paid return envelope, just rubberband that sucker to a brick and send it back. I guarantee they'll stop mailing you when it costs them $20 in postage every time they send you something.


If this actually works....

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-24 06:38:51 PM  
In other news alcohol and tobacco companies want to remove all marketing and age restrictions to their products, pharmaceutical company's don't want to have to tell customers about side effects, and all corporations want to be able to make false claims without being held legally accountable for their statements.
 
2013-01-24 06:38:55 PM  
Does anyone under the age of 35 have a land line anymore? (not counting offices)
 
2013-01-24 06:39:25 PM  
Since I have VOIP, I just close the port, unless they're on my "approved" list. All others, "No sweat off my sack".
 
2013-01-24 06:40:34 PM  
FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

allthingsd.com

Telcos have been having their asses handed to them for the past 14 years by Cell Phone and Cable Companies. For telephone service, Land Lines would always try and force customers into adding on features like there was no tomorrow, until the bill became ridiculously high. Then Cell phones came along and bundled long distance and voicemail features in together.

Telcos tried to get the jump on data service, but failed miserably. ISDN was way too expensive for the average person, and too slow. Then they started introducing DSL and fell flat on their faces. Customers would have to be within range of the CO, and outside of that the company had to pony up about $20K for a DSLAM that would only serve about 4 customers. Neverminding of course that so many POTS were already buggered up by lazy-ass techs who for decades would simply install load coils rather than replace bad lines. So the load coils would not only filter out static but the necessary frequencies for DSL as well, thus causing a line to lose it's monetization abilities when it was disqualified. All cable companies had to do was dispatch fiber and tune-up their lines to seal the leakage and they were fine.

If I were a stock holder, I wouldn't touch Century-Link with a 10' cattle prod. Sprint knowing that it's land lines were a dying revenue stream as cellphones and cable modem-powered VoIP lines were stealing their customers (phone and data) decided to consolidate all of their loosing assets into a dummy corporation they called Embarq. Sprint kept their wireless services along with Nextel's Push to Talk features and decided to live high off the hog while Wall Street suckers dumped cash into the sales of Embarq which eventually became Century Link. Now as AT&T U-Verse and Google Fiber and creeping into the rural areas along with Wireless providers offering Cellular "Hot Spots" for data services, TELCOs are under attack again and are gasping for breath.

There will always be land lines, yes. But it's not going to be a business with explosive growth, let alone much of any at all. And were talking places like downtown regions and areas of major cities.
 
2013-01-24 06:41:18 PM  
GOP: always looking out for the private citizen.
 
2013-01-24 06:42:05 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: Does anyone under the age of 35 have a land line anymore? (not counting offices)


I'm over 35; but in my case, I have it for only two reasons. it comes with the bundle and is cheaper to keep it than to get Internet and TV separately. Also, it is good to have for reverse 911 calls. (I live in a wildfire area)
 
2013-01-24 06:42:35 PM  

you have pee hands: I only get one robocall regularly but it's from a cruise line and starts with a foghorn. Why the blue fark do they think that's going to get me to do anything but hang up immediately?


Oh my God. We all get this one at work. It's grating.
 
2013-01-24 06:42:35 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: The tactic i use is when they call and ask for my name, i ask for their home phone number. When they ask why, i say "so i can call you in the evenings and early on the weekends before you're up, to try to sell you shiat you don't want. Hey, if you can do it, why cant I? They usually hang up on me. chuckles. Or tell them im too busy touching myself while making fapping sounds in the background, but if they want to hold on till im done, they can listen. Either way, they are hanging up on you.



What I used to do was tell them "I'm very interested, but hang on!" and put them on hold and then set the phone down and go somewhere else.

Considering how much call volume they have to have, wasting a few minutes of time was my part in demolishing the profit. One marketer actually stayed on hold for 7 minutes before moving on.
 
2013-01-24 06:44:38 PM  
Not only should they NOT get rid of the Do Not Call registry, they should extend it to cover political calls if the person wants to opt out of receiving them.

It will never happen without torches and pitchforks descending on Washington first, but a man can dream.

/Inconveniencing random people is not a valid business model.
 
2013-01-24 06:44:52 PM  

nickerj1: People actually answer their phones if they don't recognize number?


Sadly, my job puts me in a position where I could be receiving emergency calls either from new staff whose numbers I don't yet have, or from clients who have my number as the emergency contact. So except for a small portion of the year when we have no active clients, I don't have the luxury of ignoring unknown numbers, no matter what time of day.
 
2013-01-24 06:47:32 PM  
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-01-24 06:48:31 PM  
IRQ12: By the way being a dick to the telemarketer for no reason does nothing to dissuade the people paying them. Don't blame the poor person making minimum wage for just doing what pays them to eat.

www.libertystickers.com

It's apart of the job they accepted. Like working retail and hating the hours.

My wife has cousins in Kansas who do nothing but biatch about how there are no jobs nor opportunities around them, but refuse to move elsewhere to where reasonable employment is. Our ancestors came across vast oceans for better opportunities, your asses can do the same and move to the city.
 
2013-01-24 06:51:24 PM  
We are cell only and have naked DSL. (We opted out of any ISP services, like mail.) I like cell only as I can answer or not on my own line, the others can do as they please. The ringtone for any unknown call is "Cocaine" I check the number, see how long they ring as I don't have voice mail (I use a call log)
then look up the number in 800 notes. If the callers don't spoof a number, I have a black list.

I've accidentally opened a slider phone and had the telemarketer screaming and pleading for me to answer. I could hear her with the phone 2 1/2 feet away.

We got pestered by Visa at work. Our business didn't deal with customers - we didn't need a business Visa.
After about 10 calls in a row, my boss said to give him the next one. He must have ripped the caller a new one - she called back and told me where he could stick his answer. They didn't call back after that one.

Until I can get sports only - I don't want cable. There's too many interesting scientific vids from all over to even want a movie.
 
2013-01-24 06:51:48 PM  
You call center f*ckers could cold call these guys or maybe just go up to their gated community and try to blam blam blam blam. Ooops. sorry about the landmines.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-24 06:52:13 PM  
The first and only telecom semi-cold call I ever got was from Verizon FiOS the other day. Increase my internet speed from 25/25 to 50/25 for an additional $5.

"OK, hook me up"
(was thinking about doing it anyway) Should kick in in a day or two.

However I do have an existing business relationship with them, so under the current rules it is OK.

The other spam calls, OTOH, that usually end up on my little used cell....they need to DIAF.
 
2013-01-24 06:53:33 PM  
Didn't I read somewhere...not long ago...that our elected officials are on the "telemarketers are not allowed to call us by law" list??
I could be wrong, but if I'm not, this story makes perfect sense! Telemarketers can then run RAMPID through the phone numbers, & our elected officials won't ever get bothered by someone wanting to give them a free cruise!

HOOOOONNNNNKKKKKK!!!!!
 
2013-01-24 06:53:55 PM  
We've resigned ourselves to getting these calls now, at least as long as we keep a landline, which is looking increasingly unnecessary.

However, we have a game in our house- if it's during telemarketing hours (and we all know those), If someone is around you can make them answer it as a character of your choosing.  My youngest daughter gave me "gay pirate" about a week ago just before picking up a call from a telecommunications reseller.  She responded by giving me Donald Duck yesterday.

Might as well have some fun with it.
 
2013-01-24 06:56:34 PM  

unyon: We've resigned ourselves to getting these calls now, at least as long as we keep a landline, which is looking increasingly unnecessary.

However, we have a game in our house- if it's during telemarketing hours (and we all know those), If someone is around you can make them answer it as a character of your choosing.  My youngest daughter gave me "gay pirate" about a week ago just before picking up a call from a telecommunications reseller.  She responded by giving me Donald Duck yesterday.

Might as well have some fun with it.


quack quack quak3.exe
 
2013-01-24 06:58:54 PM  

Claude Ballse: IRQ12: By the way being a dick to the telemarketer for no reason does nothing to dissuade the people paying them. Don't blame the poor person making minimum wage for just doing what pays them to eat.

[www.libertystickers.com image 335x115]

It's apart of the job they accepted. Like working retail and hating the hours.

My wife has cousins in Kansas who do nothing but biatch about how there are no jobs nor opportunities around them, but refuse to move elsewhere to where reasonable employment is. Our ancestors came across vast oceans for better opportunities, your asses can do the same and move to the city.


Well to each his own but I know for a fact that telemarketing is the last hope for a lot of people because they will hire just about anyone, as long as you're willing to make calls and can produce numbers you have a job. Basically, you're shiatting on someone who's miserable and maybe a step away from pan handling.

Scam telemarketing? Have at it.
 
2013-01-24 06:59:56 PM  

ajgeek: gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?

That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?

In a very significant portion of the U.S., especially in central/northern Maine, there are areas that don't even have cell coverage (fark what Verizon says), much less OPTIONS for cable or telephone.

/sent from my 6Mbit DSL modem.
//and I consider myself lucky to have that.


I regularly counsel some of my relatives in more remote locations of the country to get either A) multilink dial-up, or B) ISDN to improve their internet speed, because they are literally the best options available. ISDN has actually come a long way, I'm surprised to say. It used to be that it was the crappy 128k internet you paid for by the megabyte. These days almost everyone offers it in at least double that and unlimited download, even in craptastic middle-of-nowhere places.

Oh yes,m I'm not talking the same relatives, mind you. I have enough relatives in enough remote locations that it takes a while before they hear that their third cousin twice removed or whatever is good with computers and might have some advice.

Also, the DSL spec is a lot more flexible than the major telcos will admit. AT&T/etc. have distance requirements for getting you DSL at all, but if you go to a local provider (who probably are just reselling telco lines at a cheaper price) a lot of them will be willing to ignore the distance requirements entirely, so long as you understand that your bandwidth may not be very good. For someone living out in the boonies, low bandwidth DSL can still beat the pants off of dialup.

IRQ12: nickerj1: People actually answer their phones if they don't recognize number?

Before the DNC some people would get called incessantly. I wouldn't mind a call here and there but the constant dinnertime calls are obnoxious. They made their bed, time to sleep in it. The people behind the bill are the exact people who would have been on the other end of the line (well, their outsourced contractors making next to nothing).

By the way being a dick to the telemarketer for no reason does nothing to dissuade the people paying them. Don't blame the poor person making minimum wage for just doing what pays them to eat.


splitsider.com

Do I actually have to post the whole Clerks "Engineer working on the Death Star" rant?

These people know what the job is before they get into it. You can't excuse someone for doing something reprehensible just because "they were told to". I don't care if this is the only job they can get, the job involves being paid to be an asshole to people. If you can't deal with the consequences of being an asshole, don't take the job.
 
2013-01-24 07:00:17 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: Does anyone under the age of 35 have a land line anymore? (not counting offices)


I'm 34 and we have one only because of our alarm system.
 
2013-01-24 07:00:39 PM  
Lobbyist and former Idaho Rep. Jim Clark says the bill gives customers the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls.

Any greedy, bastard politician that does deals with wealthy corporate lobbyists IMHO is guilty of TREASON and should be immediately kicked out of office - no trial, then frog-marked to the nearest stadium where they can be mercilessly mocked by REAL voters.

Than have all their assets taken from them, no pension, and tossed out on the street to live like a homeless person.

.
 
2013-01-24 07:00:42 PM  

unyon: Might as well have some fun with it.


Sometimes I try to sell them my line of Mormon blessed glass dildos. One day somebody is going to actually fall for it and I'll have to tell them it's just a line of bullshiat like everything else Mormon.
 
2013-01-24 07:02:58 PM  
This is an SIT out-of-service tone that you can record onto your answering machine. Record the wav then your message a second later. Telemarketers hang up when they hear it and robot-calls just delete your number. I put this on my answering machine years ago and it really works. Sorry about the lack of computer skills.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=669582
 
2013-01-24 07:03:45 PM  
Lobbyists are just so great for this country.
 
2013-01-24 07:05:48 PM  

Claude Ballse: My wife has cousins in Kansas who do nothing but biatch about how there are no jobs nor opportunities around them, but refuse to move elsewhere to where reasonable employment is. Our ancestors came across vast oceans for better opportunities, your asses can do the same and move to the city.


Oh this old chestnut. Lawl.

Hey guess what? Moving requires money, and not a small amount either. You have to figure out how to end your current lease, then find a new place to move to, then find some way to box up all your stuff and move out. Even if you have friends who are willing to let you sleep on their couch, and more friends who are willing to play "combination U-Haul and Moving Service" for you, you're still talking about a bunch of money that someone has to spend to transport all of these goods plus your ass to a completely new town, which by the way may or may not even have a job for you at all. Oh, and you'll be leaving behind things like your friends, social life... y'know, the personal connections that might help you find a job in the first place, and exchanging it for a completely new city with maybe one or two people you know and no networking prospects.
 
2013-01-24 07:06:12 PM  
Hand the phone to your 3-year old, tell them it's Santa
 
2013-01-24 07:06:23 PM  

BeSerious: Lobbyists are just so great for this country.


so are the FCC. god bless them and their crew/. nubian
 
2013-01-24 07:08:56 PM  

ReapTheChaos: MassAsster: Honestly , with having cell phones and if spam phone calls were allowed to start up again, I would drop my home phone like a bad habit. If I didn't call you, chances are I don't want your sh*t product to start with. If I want it , I'll find you.

/Also stopped giving out my real phone number (home or cell) or E-mail years ago to ANY company.
//Make one up and stick with it, that way it's like you own it and won't have to guess what number is on your stupid coupon tags / customer loyalty cards people always want to give you.

I'm sure the person who actually has that phone number really appreciate that too.


Sucks to be them.
 
2013-01-24 07:11:50 PM  

serpent_sky: I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


Many years ago my sister got a piece of mail with my 2 year old niece's name on it. Pre-approved Mastercard. That same niece also got picked for jury duty twice before she was even 5 lol.
 
2013-01-24 07:12:03 PM  
you have pee hands: I only get one robocall regularly but it's from a cruise line and starts with a foghorn. Why the blue fark do they think that's going to get me to do anything but hang up immediately?

I think I'd rather have that than the "lower your credit card" one. Those infuriate me, because I get them on land line and cell. My mother gets them on her cell, and she never uses her phone and doesn't remember the number half the time.

And they get by on technicalities in order to call you anyway. Knew a guy who was starting a robodial company. He explained that they had your permission if you called them or responded to them or did anything besides NOT answer the phone. He gave an example of this: you go to a concert, see an ad that says "text or dial ABCDE for weather update". His company receives your call - even if you hang up right after dialing before a person picks up - and that means you have consented to being added to their lists. Those lists are sold to all sorts of companies, even ones you would have no interest in. You're on their list, and they have the "proof" that you opted in because you dialed them. Told him politely that it's slimy and invasive, he said he just gathers and sells the info. Oh yeah, it's almost impossible to find out the company name and contact information, so you can't opt out. Shrewd business, but unfairly locks a fool/youth/victim of a prank into misery with no way out.
 
2013-01-24 07:12:55 PM  

yukichigai: ...

Do I actually have to post the whole Clerks "Engineer working on the Death Star" rant?

These people know what the job is before they get into it. You can't excuse someone for doing something reprehensible just because "they were told to". I don't care if this is the only job they can get, the job involves being paid to be an asshole to people. If you can't deal with the consequences of being an asshole, don't take the job.


Jesus, these people aren't building concentration camps and most of the time aren't assholes. They're just doing a job not unlike the people who constantly annoy you at Best Buy.

I mean it could be different to you maybe they call you up at 3 am and spew hate speech or something, if so I can see why this topic is so emotional.
 
2013-01-24 07:15:34 PM  

nickerj1: People actually answer their phones if they don't recognize number?


Never had to receive an after-hours emergency call from a doctor, have you?
 
2013-01-24 07:16:22 PM  
I'll just go back to using what I was using before my state set up a DNC website.
I'll just turn my call blocker back on.
 
hej
2013-01-24 07:17:37 PM  

buckler: Farkers. Seems like every week I get a robocall from a place telling me I've won something, and that I need to claim it by calling another number (usually something ending in "DIRT" or "SMUT"and entering a code. There doesn't seem to be a human in the loop to tell I'm on the do-not-call list. Research indicates that this place specializes in fraudulent billing for porn calls. They're driving me nuts, and I'm not sure reporting these numbers to the FCC will do any good.


Not reporting it to the FCC does even less good, and it's really not that difficult to do.
 
2013-01-24 07:17:37 PM  

unyon: We've resigned ourselves to getting these calls now, at least as long as we keep a landline, which is looking increasingly unnecessary.

However, we have a game in our house- if it's during telemarketing hours (and we all know those), If someone is around you can make them answer it as a character of your choosing.  My youngest daughter gave me "gay pirate" about a week ago just before picking up a call from a telecommunications reseller.  She responded by giving me Donald Duck yesterday.

Might as well have some fun with it.


I'd love to hear what a swishbuckler sounds like!
 
2013-01-24 07:19:44 PM  

serpent_sky: I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.

That's how the post office get payed now and I don't think our government will stop that
 
2013-01-24 07:20:26 PM  

SchadenFraud: unyon: We've resigned ourselves to getting these calls now, at least as long as we keep a landline, which is looking increasingly unnecessary.

However, we have a game in our house- if it's during telemarketing hours (and we all know those), If someone is around you can make them answer it as a character of your choosing.  My youngest daughter gave me "gay pirate" about a week ago just before picking up a call from a telecommunications reseller.  She responded by giving me Donald Duck yesterday.

Might as well have some fun with it.

I'd love to hear what a swishbuckler sounds like!


Zorro: the Gay Blade.
 
hej
2013-01-24 07:27:53 PM  

IRQ12: yukichigai: ...

Do I actually have to post the whole Clerks "Engineer working on the Death Star" rant?

These people know what the job is before they get into it. You can't excuse someone for doing something reprehensible just because "they were told to". I don't care if this is the only job they can get, the job involves being paid to be an asshole to people. If you can't deal with the consequences of being an asshole, don't take the job.


Jesus, these people aren't building concentration camps and most of the time aren't assholes. They're just doing a job not unlike the people who constantly annoy you at Best Buy.

I mean it could be different to you maybe they call you up at 3 am and spew hate speech or something, if so I can see why this topic is so emotional.


Except if I walk into Best Buy, it's because I decided to do so. At no point have I elected to be called by some random person selling random bullsheet at some random time.
 
2013-01-24 07:29:46 PM  
Late to the game. My wife has her own home business on our landline. For the longest time she had incessant callers. One "company" I took to task and challenged their lies with some internet wizardry and veiled threats. They stated they were notifying their "legal" dept. Oooh, I'm scared. After reporting them to BBB and any other agency I could think of they stopped calling.
Calls have dropped off dramatically for the last 6 months or so. Caller ID is a charm. My wife looks at it, and if it looks suspicious she either lets it go to answer machine (where nothing is left of course) or she picks it up and just listens. If no one says anything she hangs up, and if someone says "hello?", she hangs up...etc.
Apparently she believes that her tactic is working, and I tend to agree. The robocall just passes you by if you say nothing.
 
2013-01-24 07:31:02 PM  

downstairs: Bathia_Mapes:
You're their customer, you have an established business relationship.  I believe they can call you all they want.


Even with an EBR you have the right to opt out of calls for marketing purposes, and request that they only call you about transactions or your account.  The EBR only creates an implied consent for that first call.  Once you say no, the implied consent is gone.

This bill has no chance of passage in the Senate.  It proposes to go back from the current global opt-out back to an individual opt-out, in which you must inform each individual company to take you off its list.

/ no landline, DSL VOIP and i-Phone that spies on me, FTW
 
2013-01-24 07:34:23 PM  
It's called "Call Screening"
I also like to just let the receiver lay on the counter while they spiel on about what ever.
or
"can I speak to the person that pays"
It's MAY I speak to the person that pays
Sorry, May I speak to the person that pays
No
Click

OTOH, I'm more than a little bit misanthropic so . . . there's that to consider.
 
2013-01-24 07:35:03 PM  
SIT tones, folks

Prior to the DNC list a dickhead at work got pissed at me and signed me up for all the spam, direct mail, and sales calls he could. I'd get almost 30 calls a day. Until I found SIT tones.

SIT tones are sounds that tell phone computers and robo dialers that a number is dead (ya know, that boo beee BEEEEEE the number you have dialed. . . . ). In a few weeks the number of calls dramatically dropped. In a few months it was down to one every couple of weeks. Those scumbags sell their lists so a dead number gets yanked out of databases pretty fast.

Just download em and record all three on the front end of your voice mail greeting. Your friends and family will get used to it.

The only real downside is if a legitimate robo-dialer calls you - your bank, credit card company, blah blah - your number gets deleted (or whatever) out of their records as well.

/Telezapper works with SIT tones. or used to, whatever
 
2013-01-24 07:41:43 PM  
Dear Telecoms: Fark you. Fark you up your tailpipes with this:

bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com

/I'll be kind and use lube
//with sand in it
 
2013-01-24 07:43:32 PM  

yukichigai: Claude Ballse: My wife has cousins in Kansas who do nothing but biatch about how there are no jobs nor opportunities around them, but refuse to move elsewhere to where reasonable employment is. Our ancestors came across vast oceans for better opportunities, your asses can do the same and move to the city.

Oh this old chestnut. Lawl.

Hey guess what? Moving requires money, and not a small amount either. You have to figure out how to end your current lease, then find a new place to move to, then find some way to box up all your stuff and move out. Even if you have friends who are willing to let you sleep on their couch, and more friends who are willing to play "combination U-Haul and Moving Service" for you, you're still talking about a bunch of money that someone has to spend to transport all of these goods plus your ass to a completely new town, which by the way may or may not even have a job for you at all. Oh, and you'll be leaving behind things like your friends, social life... y'know, the personal connections that might help you find a job in the first place, and exchanging it for a completely new city with maybe one or two people you know and no networking prospects.



Not to be all bootstrappy, but that is exactly what grown ups do instead of just biatch. Most of this country has roots with people who poured what little money they had into a one way boat ticket. Kind of makes these grumpy Kansans look like pussies.

/great grandpa took a boat ride from scotland, ended up in a coal mine in kansas. took him 5 years to save up enough money to ship the rest of the family over.
 
2013-01-24 07:51:48 PM  
Dear Telecom Companies,

Please understand that, if this passes, I will do my level best to hurl rank invective at whatever poor soul you put at the other end of a cold call, every damned time you call. The things that will be spewed into that person's ear will, gradually, raise the expense of cold calling, as I spend my time ensuring you have to deal with long-term disability claims thanks to post-traumatic stress disorder and deafness. I absolutely guarantee it.

My voicemail message will be set to the "disconnected number" tone set and recording for 8 seconds, followed by 3 seconds of silence, followed by what sounds like a crime in progress, a gunshot, and silence. That's what you'll hear if I don't pick it up. If I do pick it up, it won't sound like a crime in progress - it will be a crime in progress.

Sincerely,
Someone tired of your shiat.
 
2013-01-24 07:52:03 PM  
How about a BIG FAT GO FARK YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS ASSHOLES.
 
2013-01-24 07:52:58 PM  

buckler: SchadenFraud: unyon: We've resigned ourselves to getting these calls now, at least as long as we keep a landline, which is looking increasingly unnecessary.

However, we have a game in our house- if it's during telemarketing hours (and we all know those), If someone is around you can make them answer it as a character of your choosing.  My youngest daughter gave me "gay pirate" about a week ago just before picking up a call from a telecommunications reseller.  She responded by giving me Donald Duck yesterday.

Might as well have some fun with it.

I'd love to hear what a swishbuckler sounds like!

Zorro: the Gay Blade.


The Lust of Zorro

While fighting the desperados of the cruel El Diablo Rojo, Zorro must also fight his society, and struggle with his burning desire for Enrique Deslocos.
 
2013-01-24 07:57:48 PM  

red230: I respond with "I'm sorry, I don't speak any English"


When I lived in Argentina, I'd do a similar thing and say "No Eee-span-yol" and I would speak in a very exaggerated tone. They stopped calling after 1-2 times.

Had a guy come up to me on the street and start barking Spanish at me in a disapproving way, pointing at my legs (wearing shorts at the time). I said, "No Eee-span-yol." He fluently asked, "Do you speak English?" I said, "No." Then he left me alone.
 
2013-01-24 07:59:25 PM  

2 Replies: Keep a soundboard handy.


s3.vidimg.popscreen.com
 
2013-01-24 08:02:45 PM  
I dont get cold calls or robo calls often. If I see an 800 or other number I just dont answer it. I did put my number on the DNC. One thing that annoys me is that the DNC doesnt apply to political or charity calls. I wasnt getting them (because cell numbers are unlisted I believe) but when I visited my folks, that damn phone would be ringing off the hook around dinner time.

/have you or anyone you knew actually changed their vote based on a cold or robo call? I surely hope not.
 
2013-01-24 08:08:09 PM  
I'm sure they do, and they can go fark themselves.
 
2013-01-24 08:11:12 PM  
I once called a local newspaper's "tip line" and told them there was a certain newspaper that ignored the "Do Not Call" list and kept calling me.


That actually worked.
 
2013-01-24 08:24:35 PM  
I do a fairly good Bobcat Goldthwait impersonation.

I practice 'call screaming'.
 
2013-01-24 08:24:55 PM  
> hampers their ability to market new services to new customers

Yer got dang right. You can call people that give you their number, and that's it.
 
2013-01-24 08:25:53 PM  
If it's a guy, I hang up. If it's a girl, I listen, then tell her she sounds sexy and ask for her home phone number. If she declines, "Lost sale."-- *click*. If she accepts, I play along, but ask my own *questions*.

What are you wearing right now?
What are you wearing under what you're wearing right now?...

(Can't charge you with harassment, she called you, and all she has to do is hang up.)
 
2013-01-24 08:27:10 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: yukichigai: Claude Ballse: My wife has cousins in Kansas who do nothing but biatch about how there are no jobs nor opportunities around them, but refuse to move elsewhere to where reasonable employment is. Our ancestors came across vast oceans for better opportunities, your asses can do the same and move to the city.

Oh this old chestnut. Lawl.

Hey guess what? Moving requires money, and not a small amount either. You have to figure out how to end your current lease, then find a new place to move to, then find some way to box up all your stuff and move out. Even if you have friends who are willing to let you sleep on their couch, and more friends who are willing to play "combination U-Haul and Moving Service" for you, you're still talking about a bunch of money that someone has to spend to transport all of these goods plus your ass to a completely new town, which by the way may or may not even have a job for you at all. Oh, and you'll be leaving behind things like your friends, social life... y'know, the personal connections that might help you find a job in the first place, and exchanging it for a completely new city with maybe one or two people you know and no networking prospects.


Not to be all bootstrappy, but that is exactly what grown ups do instead of just biatch.


No, grown-ups evaluate evidence and realize that pissing away a few thousand dollars on a move that has no guarantee of getting you a job is just not worth it. This assuming you even have a few thousand dollars to spare and aren't living from unemployment check to unemployment check.

It would be one thing if you were moving some some place with 15% unemployment to a place with vastly lower unemployment. The unemployment rate in Kansas is currently 5.4%, ranked 10th in the nation for least unemployment. In the example I was responding to, the chances of getting a job don't increase appreciably by them moving anywhere.

Now whether or not they should be looking for a job in other locations, that's a different story entirely. But the smart move is to look first, THEN move, not "move first and hope for the best." That's an idiot move.
 
2013-01-24 08:27:32 PM  
My iphone is set only to ring for those on my favorites list.
If they're not on my list and it's important then they'll leave a message.
Otherwise they can all fark off.
 
2013-01-24 08:29:21 PM  
We're on the do-not-call list. Doesn't work worth a damn.

Virtually every day, we get a call from scammers offering:

Security Monitoring for old farts
Whatever it is that 'Rachel' from the Credit Card company is offering
Power companies, offering special rates on cheap electricity.
Lots of others.

Damn them! Damn them all to Hell!
 
2013-01-24 08:30:52 PM  

IRQ12: yukichigai: ...

Do I actually have to post the whole Clerks "Engineer working on the Death Star" rant?

These people know what the job is before they get into it. You can't excuse someone for doing something reprehensible just because "they were told to". I don't care if this is the only job they can get, the job involves being paid to be an asshole to people. If you can't deal with the consequences of being an asshole, don't take the job.


Jesus, these people aren't building concentration camps and most of the time aren't assholes. They're just doing a job not unlike the people who constantly annoy you at Best Buy.

I mean it could be different to you maybe they call you up at 3 am and spew hate speech or something, if so I can see why this topic is so emotional.


Clearly you haven't interacted with the modern telemarketer for very long. They behave in a manner which is variously deceptive, abrasive, bullying, conniving, or just outright annoying, almost without exception. That used to be the rarity, now it's the norm.
 
2013-01-24 08:35:48 PM  
Since I got Caller ID on my landline, I do call screening all the time. And about the DNC list, I would also love to be on an additional list that is specifically compiled to opt-out of ALL Political, Charity, and Survey calls. Before I got Caller ID, I'd get "survey" calls whose sole purpose was to get you in a "business relationship" with them in order to circumvent the DNC list.

It also helps greatly that my landline number has been unlisted/unpublished since 1988.
 
2013-01-24 08:36:22 PM  

Tillmaster: We're on the do-not-call list. Doesn't work worth a damn.

Virtually every day, we get a call from scammers offering:

Security Monitoring for old farts
Whatever it is that 'Rachel' from the Credit Card company is offering
Power companies, offering special rates on cheap electricity.
Lots of others.

Damn them! Damn them all to Hell!


I always end up picking up the phone for the special power rates. I've no inclination to believe they are true in any sort of way. they're robots though, so I can't attempt to solicit gay sex.
 
2013-01-24 08:38:52 PM  
The telemarketers and scammers are just hiring offshore companies to call us up here in Canada. They haven't called in a while though which is a shame because I've had so much fun messing with them in the past that I actually feel sad when its someone I know.

Fun things to do:

Pretend you have short term memory loss
Three words: stripper music playlist
Act like you're stoned out of your gourd
I miss the Indian duct cleaners because I've been wanting to find out how they will react to getting blood and semen out of the ducts. Duck jokes are also good for a laugh
 
2013-01-24 08:39:33 PM  
Dear Telecoms: fark YOU.


The Irresponsible Captain: Dear Telecoms: Fark you. Fark you up your tailpipes with this:

[bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com image 620x411]

/I'll be kind and use lube
//with sand in it


I don't know of they grade it but.. coarse.
 
2013-01-24 08:45:36 PM  
OK but I want it set up so, if I press 999 there phone explodes.
 
2013-01-24 08:51:46 PM  

robbiex0r: You can opt out of this for 5 years before you have to renew. Read some of the very fine print towards the end of the 2 pages of fine print. Essentially, you call one of the big credit bureaus, and have them remove your name from the lists they give to CC companies.


You can permanently opt out as well, but it requires a physical signed form. The 5 year opt-opt can be done online or over the phone.
 
2013-01-24 09:04:26 PM  
Rarely get telemarketing calls on my cell but back when it use to happen, I'd take the time to talk slowly... with... long... pauses... between... words. And then I wouldn't no... and I wouldn't say yes... I was very... indecisive. The calls took up quite a bit of the telemarketer's time and they never got the yes they wanted. Eventually they'd either hang up or say they'd call later because their shift was ending. They never called back.

/Should have been the voice talent for a 1-900 number
//No, not THAT kind of 900 number
 
2013-01-24 09:10:14 PM  

MrEricSir: gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?

That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?

Well yeah, it came with my ADSL2+ service. Didn't know what the fark to do with it, so I'm running a dial-up BBS.


Funny, actually. I have a dialup line too, because it's forced on me by Comcast to get a cheaper overall package between TV and internet. There's nothing plugged into it, and never will be.

Wonder what percentage of remaining landlines are equally unwanted and unused?

Dinjiin: As somebody on conference calls for several hours per day, having a land line is a necessity.  Not to mention that the call quality is a LOT better.


As somebody on conference calls for several hours per day, I use Skype. The call quality is as good or better on my PC with Sennheiser cans / mic than on any landline I've ever used, including with my top-of-the-line Plantronics headphone back when I spent literally all of my work day on the phone.
 
2013-01-24 09:17:30 PM  
Call all you want you last-century bastards. I never answer my home phone. I only need a landline for Internet.
 
2013-01-24 09:18:33 PM  
People still use phones with wires?
 
2013-01-24 09:22:42 PM  
My latest fun thing to do is ask if they believe that Jesus Christ is their lord and savior. If I can get them to say yes, I tell them that there is no god, they are gullible, would a good god let so many children starve every day, would a good god let women be raped, would a good god let people shoot other people, etc. etc. They hang up pretty quickly.
 
2013-01-24 09:31:12 PM  
With the control that U-verse gives me I can usually block most of these calls after the first call. The ones that I can't are one's with malformed or non-standard Caller ID. I can block 713-568-9215 but it won't let me block +11 713-568-9215. I can't block 999-999-9999, 120-5875 or 14-143-8283. Just make it so I can dial a code after one of these calls and permanently block any further calls and I would be happy. I don't even mind if they keep switching outbound numbers. I'll eventually get them all blocked.
 
2013-01-24 09:33:26 PM  

stuffy: OK but I want it set up so, if I press 999 there phone explodes.


NOT THERE, THEIR

HA HA....THEIR

[/Phil Ken Sebben]

Also, I like to answer spam calls in Japanese. Confuses the hell out of them.
 
2013-01-24 09:34:55 PM  
What the hell is wrong with you people?! Answer the phone. Say, "Please remove this number from your list." Repeat. I promise this is more effective than ignoring the call or acting like a jackass. This is why I no longer receive calls like this. My MIL uses the don't-answer-the-phone routine, and gets five calls per day.

My method also works for when you get a new phone number that was previously owned by some deadbeat.

Stop with all the passive-aggressive BS and fix the problem.
 
2013-01-24 09:36:51 PM  

Pharmdawg: Call all you want you last-century bastards. I never answer my home phone. I only need a landline for Internet.


landline for internet? Looks like they aren't last century bastards.
 
2013-01-24 09:48:27 PM  
MinnesotaStamford, CT-based Frontier Communications

Fixed

/Was just "let go" from that company after IT was reorganized after we bought all that Verizon junk. So kicks and all that
//knows where the head cheese sits, it isn't in our Burnsville call center
///and by "we" and "our" I mean them
 
2013-01-24 09:52:08 PM  

The Onion is prophetic: My apartment manager might find it suspicious if I'm seen pushing a wheelbarrow full of bricks into the elevator.


My apt. manager would help you.
 
2013-01-24 10:20:39 PM  
 
2013-01-24 10:45:19 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The bill is being pushed by Minnesota-based Frontier Communications and Louisiana-based Century Link Inc. The companies say a 2000 law to end cold calls to customers and create a "Do Not Call" list hampers their ability to market new services to new customers.

Yeah, that worked so well when Qwest (now CenturyLink) was my phone & DSL provider. They hired third party telemarketers that called weekly, trying to get me to upgrade to a phone/DSL/satellite TV package. Granted it was a good deal, but we had already had both DirecTV (which was what Qwest offered) and Dish come out and they both determined that there was no line-of-sight due to the large trees on the apartment complex's property.

I finally ended up threatening both Qwest and their telemarketing firm with legal action if they didn't stop harassing me. I shouldn't have to tell them the same thing week after week as to why satellite TV wasn't an option where I live.


Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Link


At least I'm not the only one who has to put up with crap from CenturyLink.
 
2013-01-24 10:47:03 PM  

Claude Ballse: My wife has cousins in Kansas who do nothing but biatch about how there are no jobs nor opportunities around them, but refuse to move elsewhere to where reasonable employment is. Our ancestors came across vast oceans for better opportunities, your asses can do the same and move to the city.


One thing that commonly blocks people from doing that is the cost of housing in the handful of places left in the U.S. where well-paying jobs actually exist. If they own a home, it's even harder; selling a home in a depressed area may not give them enough of a "stake" to move and set up housekeeping in a new city, and if they bought within the last few years or extracted substantial amounts of equity, they may actually be upside down.

Interesting article on this topic of housing expense as a threat to labor migration: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2013/01/wealthy_conne ct.html

Synopsis: From 1880-1980, regional differences in income actually decreased, as people from poorer states moved to richer ones, where the work was. Then in 1980, the convergence stopped. "Convergence stopped because labor migration stopped; labor migration stopped because housing prices in the richest states grew so out of whack that low-skilled workers could no longer afford to move in; and housing prices skyrocketed in response to zoning laws written in the 1970s that artificially restricted the amount and type of housing that could be built in richer locales."
 
2013-01-24 10:55:03 PM  

highendmighty: TheDirtyNacho: Does anyone under the age of 35 have a land line anymore? (not counting offices)

I'm over 35; but in my case, I have it for only two reasons. it comes with the bundle and is cheaper to keep it than to get Internet and TV separately. Also, it is good to have for reverse 911 calls. (I live in a wildfire area)


You can probably call 911 without having a phone plan. Check your area. Also, FYI, I was doing the same thing as you with the Triple Play bundle. Recently, I got a cheaper deal from Comcast with a 'double play' deal which saved a bunch. They used to now have that cheaper option, but not they do. I had to go in person to find someone who knew what they were talking about though. Good luck.
 
2013-01-24 11:21:25 PM  

BigJake: People still use phones with wires?


I said, "IF THE CALL DROPS ONE MORE TIME, JUST CALL ME ON THE LANDLINE!"
leadership.gwabbit.com

Call clarity is also important those of us who are hearing impaired. Landlines are great for that. Cell phones tend to sound like garbled crap.
 
2013-01-25 12:12:22 AM  
Cool bro story: I tried telemarketing in college in the '90s BEFORE it got annoying and still somewhat of a novelty. My first job since high school, I tried to do a good job. "Wow, they hired me! I feel special!" That all came crashing down a few days later when I saw a hippie they'd hired. Dirty mother farker would put his tevo'd feet up on the cube. W.T.F. I wanted to skull fark him for his lack of respect for our proud company. After I calmed down, boy, was my bubble burst about telemarketing after seeing that.

We had a neat bell we'd ring if we got a $50 or > donation too.
 
2013-01-25 12:34:20 AM  
If you're not in Idaho, there's no need to worry about this. There's also not much reason for people in Idaho to worry about it. The bill in question is in the state legislature. Also the Federal law still would apply since the companies are based out of state, one in Louisiana, the other in Minnesota.

The federal do not call law does allow companies you do business with to call you. So this shows how full of crap these companies are. The current laws do not prohibit them from calling customers. The federal do not call law does give you the customer the option to tell them not to call you anymore.


Others have mentioned the mail they get. In August I got a landline and DSL from AT&T. After the paperwork arrived, I learned there was a 150GB limit on data. This applies to what you upload as well as download. The paperwork also mentioned they didn't enforce the quota the first 3 months. I dropped their DSL service for someone else's. A few days later some AT&T drone from Bombay called to ask why I had cancelled the DSL service. I told him I gave it up because of the quota. He then tried to tell me there was no quota. I wasn't going to argue with him so I hung up. Now 2 or 3 times a month I get snail mail from them trying to get me to sign up for their DSL service. I have to wonder what these AT&T execs are smoking. I told them I quit their DSL because of the quota and they still try to get me to sign up. This month the outdid themselves. I got 4 envelopes from them. Each one had a copy of the SAME BILL.
 
2013-01-25 12:45:21 AM  
For a couple days me and my fiancé were getting pre-recorded calls preaching "the word of God." We're both atheists and couldn't help wondering if they have some kind of atheist call list.

/or perhaps it was the work of our annoying fundie relatives, hmmm
 
2013-01-25 12:48:39 AM  
I'n giving odds that the Obama Crony Capitalist Perpetual Fund Raising Mafia will toss the Do Not Call rule the moment $5,000,000 comes over the transom in small non-sequential bills.
 
2013-01-25 12:49:01 AM  

offacue: My latest fun thing to do is ask if they believe that Jesus Christ is their lord and savior. If I can get them to say yes, I tell them that there is no god, they are gullible, would a good god let so many children starve every day, would a good god let women be raped, would a good god let people shoot other people, etc. etc. They hang up pretty quickly.


Would a good god allow you to waste your remaining days in a dead-end job, living a life devoid of love or meaningful relationships, just waiting to die so you can end your miserable existence?

/Would he???
 
2013-01-25 12:49:35 AM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: crotchgrabber: We used to get a lot of calls from a certain company that has very rude, aggressive people on the phones. This was at work. They would demand the bosses cell number, act like they knew him, etc. The girl that answers the phone would never give it out, who would? They would then start cussing her out until she hung up. She's got some thick skin, so she would just put down the phone and mutter something about farking assholes. I had to cover the phone for her one day and of course got the call. When they demanded the bosses cell I gave them the rejection hotline. Man, when he called back I was farking rolling. He was so damned pissed. Calling me all sorts of shiat.

/csb
//look up your local rejection hotline. keep it handy.

What's a rejection hotline?


Youtube Video of call to Rejection Hotline

/I looked it up and found this quite quickly
 
2013-01-25 01:45:05 AM  

yukichigai: These people know what the job is before they get into it. You can't excuse someone for doing something reprehensible just because "they were told to". I don't care if this is the only job they can get, the job involves being paid to be an asshole to people. If you can't deal with the consequences of being an asshole, don't take the job.


I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you never had to really look hard for employment in the current recession, and certainly never had to take a shiatty job just to keep the bills paid.
 
2013-01-25 01:47:41 AM  

GenericLifeform: offacue: My latest fun thing to do is ask if they believe that Jesus Christ is their lord and savior. If I can get them to say yes, I tell them that there is no god, they are gullible, would a good god let so many children starve every day, would a good god let women be raped, would a good god let people shoot other people, etc. etc. They hang up pretty quickly.o_O

Would a good god allow you to waste your remaining days in a dead-end job, living a life devoid of love or meaningful relationships, just waiting to die so you can end your miserable existence?

/Would he???


o_O
 
2013-01-25 02:02:19 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: "Bill would left ban on cold calls"
WHO THE HELL is this Bill guy


LET'S KICK HIS ASS!
 
2013-01-25 02:17:53 AM  

you have pee hands: I only get one robocall regularly but it's from a cruise line and starts with a foghorn. Why the blue fark do they think that's going to get me to do anything but hang up immediately?


I lol'd. Same here. It's so regular that I should really have the number memorized by now but nope. Foghorn in my ear every time.
 
2013-01-25 02:20:58 AM  
Two things.

First, I recorded the SIT code for a disconnected line onto my answering machine about a year ago, just when all the political calls started up.  It has cut the number of robo calls and such in half.  Try it.  Just google SIT code.

Second, there is a scam that has been running for about a year, claiming to be Century Link's collection service.  they call up in the early evening and as soon as you answer, they hang up.  They will do this at half hour intervals, mostly to businesses.  When you get pissed off enough to *69 them and call them back to ask just WTF is up with all the hang up calls, they ID themselves as Century Link collections and claim you have an outstanding bill and that you service will be cut off in three days unless you pay up.  They do this after business hours and then claim it is due to the time difference, as they are in Louisville, which is bullshiat.  they are counting on getting some fool who will get scared and pay them.  It is a scam.  I spoke with Century Link HQ and they confirm the number (800-569-0771) is not theirs.  Feel free to call them back every five minutes and hang up or put them on hold, just to tie up their line and fark with them.
 
2013-01-25 02:34:30 AM  
Start using caller ID again. IF the number doesn't register, fark it.
 
2013-01-25 03:05:06 AM  

cwolf20: Start using caller ID again. IF the number doesn't register, fark it.


And if it does register, it's meaningless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID_spoofing
 
2013-01-25 05:11:19 AM  
this phone has been equipped with call screening technology. to speak to a customer of this house press 1. if your a friend say something witty
 
2013-01-25 07:25:12 AM  
Who exactly is buying shiat from telemarketers anyway!?? Seriously, if people didn't promote this vile practice the problem would solve itself.
 
2013-01-25 08:04:41 AM  

tonguedepressor: Who exactly is buying shiat from telemarketers anyway!?? Seriously, if people didn't promote this vile practice the problem would solve itself.


The problem is, unlike other forms of advertising, this is dirt cheap. Pay someone $8 an hour to make hundreds of calls a day and you only need to sucker in one or two to turn a profit. Add in how they exaggerate (or outright lie) about what they're selling and it's not hard to see why they like the practice so much.
 
2013-01-25 08:10:36 AM  

Broktun:

Did you try this:

www.vanguardmil.com

Blow the cock farking sucker's ear drums out.

fark telemarketers


That trick hasn't worked in 15 or so years. Their phone systems are programmed to automatically dampen the audio the instant a loud noise is detected.
 
2013-01-25 08:48:14 AM  

gweilo8888: Wait, people still have land lines? At home?

That's cute. Do you still have pocket watches and send telegrams to the family at Christmas, as well?


I pay about $25 a month for unlimited calling on my home phone. How much do you pay for your cell phone? I bet it's more.
 
2013-01-25 08:50:16 AM  
Even though my numbers are on the Do Not Call list, it still rings off the hook by these telemarketers. Their loophole: Autodialers that start with 0000 and just go down the list. 0001, 0002, 0003... And what's worse is that they're using callers from outside the US borders. Our laws do not affect other countries so they exploit it. Sick. The registry should stay. Anyone who votes against it shouldn't get reelected... and let them know why.
 
2013-01-25 08:54:16 AM  

serpent_sky: I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


For mailings:
www.optoutprescreen.com

/no direct link, it's not playing nice with fark
 
2013-01-25 09:40:27 AM  
A lot of telemarketers don't give a sh*t about the DNC list and call anyway, because the FCC (or whomever is supposed to be enforcing the list) rarely does anything about it.

I just use Caller ID to screen my calls. If it shows a number I don't recognize or it says "Toll Free", "000-000-0000", "Unknown Name", or "8xx-xxx-xxxx", then I don't bother to answer it.
 
2013-01-25 09:48:08 AM  

serpent_sky: I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


I went through the same crap as well. However, if you check the small print on the credit card and Uverse offers, they have phone numbers you can call to have them remove you from their mailing list. It takes 30 days for the thing to clear, but after that I stopped getting their crap in my mailbox.

Or you can just take the pre-paid return envelopes enclosed with the credit card offers and mail them back filled with junk mail. Your choice.
 
2013-01-25 10:00:27 AM  

mark12A: I simply never answer the phone directly. I let the answering machine get it, and my friends/family know I'll pick up if it's them. I get a wee little bit of sadistic satisfaction listening to the telemarketers trying and trying and *trying* to get ahold of me.....


Sorry to break your heart, but you're really not inconveniencing any telemarketers by not picking up the phone. All their calls are robo-dialed. A machine will cycle through a list of numbers and if someone answers, it connects the call through to a live telemarketer. If no one answers or the line is busy, the robo-dialer just puts the number on the bottom of the call cycle and dials the next number on the list. Lather, rinse, repeat.

The only way you're going to stick it to telemarketers is to pick up the phone and waste their time by putting them on hold or trolling them until they hang up.
 
2013-01-25 10:14:55 AM  
They should just do what verizon does and send you a metric ton of junk mail.
 
2013-01-25 10:56:22 AM  
i find it really effective to do the following
whe someone calls to offer me a credit card
i will act really interested, ask them how much credit i can get, how fast i can get the card, get all the info and tell them i don't pay my bills at all, they end the call quite quickly

if it's the computer virus people, i screw with them or ask them if it's some sort of horrible porn i have downloaded, and be very graphic

the rest of them i take into the dumper, and take a good ferguson
 
2013-01-25 12:18:29 PM  
"Lobbyist and former Idaho Rep. Jim Clark says the bill gives customers the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls."

Opt out? That would require the creation of some sort of "do not call" list of all the people that opted out. Hmm....
 
2013-01-25 12:21:47 PM  
And yet mass killers shoot up schools instead of more "worthy" targets.

Seriously, how many people would care if a nutjob shot up a building full of "cold callers"?
 
2013-01-25 04:49:19 PM  
First of all, there doesn't seem to be a "House State Affairs Committee" or a "House Business Committee", at least none that I could find at: http://www.opencongress.org/committee

I think it's a little disingenuous for Lobbyist and former Rep. Jim Clark to say this unidentified Bill (poorly written article) gives customers the ability to opt-out from solicitation calls, if he thinks this will be an improvement over the DoNotCall list... which is a way for individuals (not just customers) to opt out from solicitation calls.

Mrs. Maggie Wilderotter (Chairman and CEO of Frontier Communications Corporation, based in Stamford Ct.,), was designated as Chair of the President's National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee (NSTAC).

Mr. Glenn F. Post, III (Chief Executive Officer and President of Century Link Inc.) also "serves" on the National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee (NSTAC).

I don't believe in coincidences. That Maggie Wilderotter and Glenn F. Post III's companies are pushing this House Bill which is, not doubt, introduced by some Republican. My question is: Is the National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee (NSTAC) involved in Any Way in swaying the decision of the mentioned House State Affairs Committee to introduce the Bill, and do they have any influence over the mentioned House Business Committee. Not that it would matter since the House seems to have a Republican Majority and will roll over and do whatever monied interests desire.
And we wonder why Government "doesn't work" for 'The People'.

Hope the Senate has some cajones (metaphorical) when this unidentified H.B gets to them.
 
2013-01-25 06:42:31 PM  

elchupacabra: And yet mass killers shoot up schools instead of more "worthy" targets.

Seriously, how many people would care if a nutjob shot up a building full of "cold callers"?


Responsible firearm owners would. Any mass shooting will be used by the fascists as a reason to try to take our weapons.
 
2013-01-26 12:58:41 AM  

serpent_sky: I love the do not call list. I felt bad hanging up on/yelling at people just doing a shiatty job, but I also hated being bothered, especially after telling them 10 times previously to remove me from their list.  My office is inundated by annoying calls for services we don't want and "take us off your list" does not work on them, either.

The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.


You can opt out of their mailings. I was hoping for a link on the website but I wasn't sure what to search for on it.

This is for the wireless side of mailings but you can call 800 288-2020 and hit the option for Uverse. Tell the rep you want to be placed on AT&T's do not mail list. It has been a long time since I was on the front end of customer service but if the rep states they can't do it, ask for their manager. The other options is to use the Live Chat feature. It is a lot quicker and you can do other things if you have to wait for a rep.

Link
 
2013-01-26 01:00:02 AM  

downstairs: serpent_sky: The other thing that needs to go is CONSTANT mail solicitations. I get at least 10 credit card solicitations a week, AT&T wants me to take UVerse at least 3 times a week, so on and so forth. It drives me crazy - such a waste of paper and postage.

I believe there's a mail version similar to the DNC list.  I swear I signed up years ago, and indeed the junk mail went way, way down.


DMC opt out
 
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