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(US News)   New fashion makes people invisible to thermal imaging cameras used by drones   (usnews.com) divider line 74
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2013-01-24 02:42:52 PM  
 
2013-01-24 02:45:24 PM  
Dafuq is with their eyes??
 
2013-01-24 02:46:20 PM  
Or you could just shoot the farkers flying the drones. Just following orders doesn't protect them or their families.
 
2013-01-24 02:46:27 PM  
Err, I can see the thermal imaging being defeated by clothing, but their example must be fake surely - how it would it reduce the thermal signature on exposed parts of the skin (face, arms, etc.)?
 
2013-01-24 02:46:29 PM  
The "Off" button may fall afoul of FCC regulations
 
2013-01-24 02:46:48 PM  
US News gets it wrong. These "fashions" are not about being invisible to drones and infrared cameras, they are about concealing your identity as privacy becomes more and more difficult to maintain.
 
2013-01-24 02:46:48 PM  
Hello, my name is Ahmed... Uh, I mean Micheal. And I'm interested in purchasing your new clothing line. Do you ship to Pakistan?
 
2013-01-24 02:48:36 PM  
www.terrariaonline.com

They've been wearing this for years. They just couldn't sell it for $500.
 
2013-01-24 02:51:53 PM  
What in gods name is that thing modeling the tarps?
 
2013-01-24 02:56:52 PM  
TFA "We did it as a statement-it's easy enough to make a suit that covers the entire body or a tactical outfit to be worn by military personnel," Harvey says. "We wanted to make something that was useful and relevant but that would get people talking about the technology."

Well, congratulations, but you completely failed at making it useful. If it's 'easy enough' to make a full-body version that doesn't stand out like a tinfoil tent (judging from his comment that you could make a 'tactical outfit' version, which presumably wouldn't be shiny on the outside), why the heck didn't you? This is just a silly fashion statement; it'd do absolutely fark-all if someone actually wanted to use it to hide.
 
2013-01-24 02:56:55 PM  
www.usnews.com

Wait, what? How the fark does a t-shirt mask the thermal heat from the wearer's legs and head? I cry bullschitt.

/Image is hot like a bombed civilian.
 
2013-01-24 02:57:39 PM  

Katolu: Dafuq is with their eyes??


yah, me too, answer this.
 
2013-01-24 02:59:13 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Or you could just shoot the farkers flying the drones. Just following orders doesn't protect them or their families.


That only works if you live in the same country where the drone operators live.
If your leaders decide to outsource the policing to other nations, its no longer an option.

/and with the state of the economy in many places, I don't put that beyond any politician.
/Just need to save a few bucks, after all.
 
2013-01-24 03:00:39 PM  
Until they make that clothing illegal to posses.

To everyone who wants to do away with the second amendment; that would set a very dangerous precedent. After that; any amendment in the bill of rights would be subject to revision or removal.
 
2013-01-24 03:01:30 PM  
We had this amazing technology long ago. It's called a space blanket.
 
2013-01-24 03:01:35 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: [ahprojects.com image 570x853]

No not suspicious.


But what if a person were wearing clothes like that under normal clothing?

BTW, I bet there is a much cheaper alternative. Hell, a "space blanket" would probably do it, and they cost, what, a few bucks.

Yep, I was right: Apparently the Taliban have used them to "foil" thermal imaging.
 
2013-01-24 03:01:44 PM  
I'll stick with my tinfoil hat. A LOT cheaper.
 
2013-01-24 03:03:03 PM  
t0.gstatic.com

Trolling over the patent.
 
2013-01-24 03:04:16 PM  
Wouldn't simply wearing a well insulated set of coveralls with an insulated hood do the same thing? It would be hot, but generally I would expect anything that is actually able to mask someone's heat signature for a long time would be.
 
2013-01-24 03:04:57 PM  

Mock26: [www.usnews.com image 620x413]

Wait, what? How the fark does a t-shirt mask the thermal heat from the wearer's legs and head? I cry bullschitt.

/Image is hot like a bombed civilian.


Those two images are the non-cloaked people, one is in black and white, the other in false color, because most thermal imaging cameras display in one of those two modes.

This image shows the effectiveness of the garments in question:

www.usnews.com

Image at left is visible light, image at right is IR.
 
2013-01-24 03:06:30 PM  

xria: Err, I can see the thermal imaging being defeated by clothing, but their example must be fake surely - how it would it reduce the thermal signature on exposed parts of the skin (face, arms, etc.)?


You're right.
storiesbywilliams.files.wordpress.com
You really need a full suit that covers your entire body.
designingsound.org
You should also be careful around water.
 
2013-01-24 03:06:34 PM  

iheartscotch: Until they make that clothing illegal to posses.

To everyone who wants to do away with the second amendment; that would set a very dangerous precedent. After that; any amendment in the bill of rights would be subject to revision or removal.


Like the eighteenth?
 
2013-01-24 03:07:15 PM  

RedPhoenix122: iheartscotch: Until they make that clothing illegal to posses.

To everyone who wants to do away with the second amendment; that would set a very dangerous precedent. After that; any amendment in the bill of rights would be subject to revision or removal.

Like the eighteenth?


Sorry, reading comprehension, Bill of Rights, my mistake.
 
2013-01-24 03:09:01 PM  
furiousfanboys.com
Unimpressed
 
2013-01-24 03:11:33 PM  
So terrorism has gone mainstream?
 
2013-01-24 03:17:04 PM  

NBSV: Wouldn't simply wearing a well insulated set of coveralls with an insulated hood do the same thing? It would be hot, but generally I would expect anything that is actually able to mask someone's heat signature for a long time would be.


Maybe so, but it wouldn't be as fashionable.
 
2013-01-24 03:18:38 PM  
I'll stick with my Elven cloak

www.ccs.neu.edu
 
2013-01-24 03:19:19 PM  
Or you could just duck into a building, or underground garage ...
 
2013-01-24 03:21:39 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Or you could just duck into a building, or underground garage ...


Or just go behind a tree.
 
2013-01-24 03:23:48 PM  
Of course they are embedded with and RFID tags so all wearers can all be targeted at the same time.
 
2013-01-24 03:29:26 PM  

dittybopper: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Or you could just duck into a building, or underground garage ...

Or just go behind a tree.


Well, according to the PBS show about drones I watched last night (I think it was Nova), drone cameras are now really good at following people and cars. So I'm not sure a tree (unless it's a really big, leafy one) would afford the kind of protection that a building would. The images from the current drones are quite high-rez. You can tell what people are wearing and what type of car they're driving. They can't distinguish license plates, yet (supposedly).
 
2013-01-24 03:32:29 PM  

dittybopper: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Or you could just duck into a building, or underground garage ...

Or just go behind a tree.


Assuming you knew the drone was there. Which you likely would not
 
2013-01-24 03:41:06 PM  
Pfft, privacy is so passe.

The in thing now is to allow yourself be monitored. Why? Because the government just spent a ton of money in order to buy expensive monitoring equipment!
 
2013-01-24 03:42:16 PM  
I'll stick with my polar bear outfit.

www.thesnellgroup.com
 
2013-01-24 03:46:01 PM  
So instead of being monitored by a Drone, you get shot for looking like a Muslim. Big improvement.
 
2013-01-24 03:47:47 PM  
Didn't Mythbusters already do this? I seem to remember that they had a terrible time trying to bypass thermal imaging.
 
2013-01-24 03:52:39 PM  

Katolu: Dafuq is with their eyes??


Trying to pull off one of these, and being unsuccessful
25.media.tumblr.com

gamemag.ru
 
2013-01-24 03:54:12 PM  

BigNumber12: So instead of being monitored by a Drone, you get shot for looking like a Muslim. Big improvement.


Sew this fabric into a trench coat and you'll only look like a shiny hipster.

/There are more efficient ways to stop drones tho.
 
2013-01-24 03:58:47 PM  
All they have to do is reverse the polarity on the camera, and it can see you again.
 
2013-01-24 03:59:10 PM  
That hoodie might protect you from infrared surveillance for a short time but the heat building up under it would get unpleasant very quickly.

I thought this was interesting: How to Block Thermal Imaging With Your Ghillie Suit
 
2013-01-24 03:59:13 PM  
Well, it's a lot cheaper (and less badass) than this solution.
 
2013-01-24 04:01:18 PM  

xria: Err, I can see the thermal imaging being defeated by clothing, but their example must be fake surely - how it would it reduce the thermal signature on exposed parts of the skin (face, arms, etc.)?


Came here to say this. The first pic is ludicrously ridiculous.
 
2013-01-24 04:11:53 PM  

Mock26: [www.usnews.com image 620x413]

Wait, what? How the fark does a t-shirt mask the thermal heat from the wearer's legs and head? I cry bullschitt.

/Image is hot like a bombed civilian.


You are correct, clothes normally block heat. Silver lined clothes may block more heat, but getting them is not difficult nor does it cost $500. A good number of clothes for the "active" population already have silver in them. All those garments with "antimicrobial technology" (like almost everything from REI, and Cabela's) are lined with silver. Half the anti-micro clothing in Walmart has silver in it. All that scentless clothing they sell hunters uses silver thread too. Let's not even get into the emergency "space" blankets, which use zero silver but somehow are fantastic at hiding a heat signature.

img.timeinc.net
 
2013-01-24 04:16:05 PM  

xria: Err, I can see the thermal imaging being defeated by clothing, but their example must be fake surely - how it would it reduce the thermal signature on exposed parts of the skin (face, arms, etc.)?


My guess is that they're also wearing special makeup all over their body?  That could answer the whole "WTF is with their eyes" a few posters here questioned.
 
2013-01-24 04:16:07 PM  
You could wear a body suit of this material and leave your head uncovered. You'd then look like a disembodied head floating around.
 
2013-01-24 04:37:16 PM  
Odd Bird: I'll stick with my Elven cloak

[www.ccs.neu.edu image 639x271]


I'll stick with my Dwarven ring.
nickowchar.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-24 04:45:22 PM  
People dressed in plastic bags
Directing traffic
Some kind of fashion? Shattered

/hey, it's an inverted haiku
 
2013-01-24 04:45:45 PM  

HailRobonia: You could wear a body suit of this material and leave your head uncovered. You'd then look like a disembodied head floating around.


Or you could walk around naked wearing only a hat made of this. You'd look like the headless horseman (on foot).
 
2013-01-24 04:46:11 PM  

MBooda: Odd Bird: I'll stick with my Elven cloak

[www.ccs.neu.edu image 639x271]

I'll stick with my Dwarven ring.

[nickowchar.files.wordpress.com image 351x242]



Oh?
 
2013-01-24 04:47:30 PM  

Mock26: [www.usnews.com image 620x413]

Wait, what? How the fark does a t-shirt mask the thermal heat from the wearer's legs and head? I cry bullschitt.

/Image is hot like a bombed civilian.


Um, you may notice that the only part invisible to thermal imaging is in the shape of a drone with a slash through it... The rest is perfectly clear to thermal imaging cameras. A "statement" if you will.
 
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