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(Fox News)   Woman sues Match.com for $10 million on the grounds that they didn't accurately predict that he would try to kill her with a butcher knife when she dumped him after eight days   ( foxnews.com) divider line
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2013-01-24 12:42:21 PM  
5 votes:

ManOfTeal: Sounds like someone has mounting medical bills that she cannot afford and is getting desperate.

Hell, it may work, McDonald's had to pay up when that one dumb-ass spilled hot coffee on themselves.

Though, on the flip side, should you be able to sue the bar you got picked up in if the guy who picked you up turns out to be a psychopathic killer?


I love that people continually bring up the McDonald's coffee thing. Ignoring the fact that McDonald's actually did keep their coffee at a temperature too hot to be considered safe without proper notification.

It continues to be the shining example of frivolous lawsuits...except that it wasn't one
2013-01-24 12:48:13 PM  
3 votes:

bulldg4life: I love that people continually bring up the McDonald's coffee thing. Ignoring the fact that McDonald's actually did keep their coffee at a temperature too hot to be considered safe without proper notification

the temperature recommended by the National Coffee Association for the past century.

FTFY. Sorry you don't feel 100 years of tradition is enough notification.

/Link
2013-01-24 01:55:45 PM  
2 votes:

hitlersbrain: Now that he is in prison for murder he probably has a bunch of women wanting to marry him.


Not likely, since he killed himself in jail according to the article.
2013-01-24 01:16:58 PM  
2 votes:

ongbok: Didn't read the article, but did the website even know that this guy tried to kill the first woman? Did the police contact them about his involvement? Was there any realistic way that they could have known that he tried to kill the first woman? If not then I really don't see how the family of the second woman would have a case either.


Go read the actual history of the McDonalds coffee lawsuit. It was not frivolous in any way shape or form. If anything, it showed just how super-sized of an asshole McDonalds can be.
2013-01-24 01:14:42 PM  
2 votes:

here to help: How about don't f*ck strangers you met on the internet?


Everyone is a stranger until you meet them. Sure, don't fark everyone you see, but at some point you have to take a chance and bring someone into your life to get to know them. Where you meet them is irrelevant.
2013-01-24 01:08:40 PM  
2 votes:

ManOfTeal: ....You are correct. An entire generation of people would have grown up having no idea that coffee was hot if that one idiot didn't take one for the team and force companies everywhere to write derp on their coffee cups.

That's all I'm saying. Why is it that the rest of us have to suffer because of one moron? The McDonald's coffee thing was just the beginning of a long line of these occurrences.


The Mcdonalds coffee thing was just the beginning of a very successful PR campaign to turn people against their own interests.

Watch 'Hot Coffee' and/or down your own research on the topic and come back and tell us how silly the lawsuit was.

Even ron paul fanboys realize that without regulation all that is left is tort.
2013-01-24 12:54:04 PM  
2 votes:

IRQ12: bulldg4life: ManOfTeal: Sounds like someone has mounting medical bills that she cannot afford and is getting desperate.

Hell, it may work, McDonald's had to pay up when that one dumb-ass spilled hot coffee on themselves.

Though, on the flip side, should you be able to sue the bar you got picked up in if the guy who picked you up turns out to be a psychopathic killer?

I love that people continually bring up the McDonald's coffee thing. Ignoring the fact that McDonald's actually did keep their coffee at a temperature too hot to be considered safe without proper notification.

It continues to be the shining example of frivolous lawsuits...except that it wasn't one

What surprises me is just how powerful that PR machine was before the internet. Also that people on the internet continue to use it even though it gets shot down every single. time.


Because the facts aren't publicly known about the case and how damaging it was. Most just know is Coffee burn = 10million then think, I burn myself with my coffee and I'm never hurt.

When you tell them McDonald's was already fined for the practice, told to quit by agencies and their own internal investigation that they then ignored, superheated the liquid beyond any safe measure where .15 second exposure was enough for full 3rd degree burns, failed to tell people about how hot it truly was, had already burned several people who required skin grafts, tried to settle for $500, destroyed that women's private parts completely rendering her basically sterile, and finally that the judgment was later reduced to something more reasonable but was still punitive due to all of their prior conduct. Then they don't seem to think the incident was so frivolous.
2013-01-24 12:50:56 PM  
2 votes:
so this violent psycho manages to meet not one, but two women through match.com and he tried to kill them both. meanwhile, i spent an entire year on match and barely any women were even willing to respond to my emails. maybe if i acted like a violent psycho i would land more dates.
2013-01-24 12:46:57 PM  
2 votes:

GWSuperfan: Farce-Side: don't ever meet potential mates online.

what about Fark Parties?


I dunno. Never been to one. Some of you people seem like real psychos though. Maybe I'd go as a different farker.
2013-01-24 12:46:33 PM  
2 votes:

MrBrownNow: I can see this from an eharmony hookup, but not a Match.com


Nah, I'd say Christian Singles is where you would expect that...
2013-01-24 12:42:10 PM  
2 votes:
This is why you should stick to safer places like Craigslist. Or having sex with random strangers at the bus terminal.
2013-01-24 12:39:30 PM  
2 votes:
Sounds like someone has mounting medical bills that she cannot afford and is getting desperate.

Hell, it may work, McDonald's had to pay up when that one dumb-ass spilled hot coffee on themselves.

Though, on the flip side, should you be able to sue the bar you got picked up in if the guy who picked you up turns out to be a psychopathic killer?
2013-01-24 12:35:35 PM  
2 votes:
Ok; for everyone who wasn't paying attention last time:


NEVER TAKE A DATE TO YOUR PLACE OF RESIDENCE ON YOUR FIRST DATE!

/ I'd say that it isn't advisable to take them to your place of residence before you get to know them

// also; never include your home address in any online account
2013-01-24 03:32:41 PM  
1 vote:

Greg Tolan: ArcadianRefugee: bulldg4life: I love that people continually bring up the McDonald's coffee thing. Ignoring the fact that McDonald's actually did keep their coffee at a temperature too hot to be considered safe without proper notificationthe temperature recommended by the National Coffee Association for the past century.

FTFY. Sorry you don't feel 100 years of tradition is enough notification.

/Link

Clearly you still don't understand the issues here. The temperature recommended by the National Coffee Association notwithstanding, coffee served at 180-190 degrees can cause third degree burns within 2-7 seconds.


Yes, and if I've lived my whole life knowing that the recommended serving temperature for a beverage is "scald my crotch" hot, I'll either (a) not buy it or (b) be really farking careful with it.

You said McDonald's kept their coffee at a temperature too hot to be considered safe without proper notification; I pointed out that 100 years should be plenty of notification.
2013-01-24 03:19:18 PM  
1 vote:
What's wrong with eharmony's screening process? Seems like it works to me.

www.brinkleys.org
2013-01-24 02:36:32 PM  
1 vote:

Ral: bulldg4life: I love that people continually bring up the McDonald's coffee thing. Ignoring the fact that McDonald's actually did keep their coffee at a temperature too hot to be considered safe without proper notification.

It continues to be the shining example of frivolous lawsuits...except that it wasn't one

Also, the judgement awarded was absurdly excessive, but it was reduced on appeal.


the actual judgement was about $480,000. The punitive damages awarded were about $2.7M, or the rough equivalent of what McDs made in two days on coffee alone.

It was settled out of court for less than $600,000. BECAUSE ALL THE 79 YEAR OLD WOMAN EVER WANTED WAS HER MEDICAL BILLS PAID. But the first "offer" was for $800. Yes, eight hundred dollars. Now scroll up and look at the pic that was posted. Want to "get over that" for $800? I wouldn't, and I bet you wouldn't either.
2013-01-24 02:29:10 PM  
1 vote:
Picture of Stella Liebeck's coffee burns from McDonald's coffee

I wouldn't suffer this for any amount of money...
2013-01-24 02:13:41 PM  
1 vote:

ManOfTeal: bulldg4life: ManOfTeal: Sounds like someone has mounting medical bills that she cannot afford and is getting desperate.

Hell, it may work, McDonald's had to pay up when that one dumb-ass spilled hot coffee on themselves.

Though, on the flip side, should you be able to sue the bar you got picked up in if the guy who picked you up turns out to be a psychopathic killer?

I love that people continually bring up the McDonald's coffee thing. Ignoring the fact that McDonald's actually did keep their coffee at a temperature too hot to be considered safe without proper notification.

It continues to be the shining example of frivolous lawsuits...except that it wasn't one

You are correct. An entire generation of people would have grown up having no idea that coffee was hot if that one idiot didn't take one for the team and force companies everywhere to write derp on their coffee cups.

That's all I'm saying. Why is it that the rest of us have to suffer because of one moron? The McDonald's coffee thing was just the beginning of a long line of these occurrences.


I'm pretty sure she knew coffee was hot, and probably even expected an accidental spill might result in some pain and a burn blister. I'm guessing she didn't expect severe third degree burns that required extensive skin grafting.

See the documentary Hot Coffee as it explains why her case wasn't as frivolous as everyone thought.
2013-01-24 02:01:07 PM  
1 vote:

ManOfTeal: tbhouston: ManOfTeal: bulldg4life: ManOfTeal: Sounds like someone has mounting medical bills that she cannot afford and is getting desperate.

Hell, it may work, McDonald's had to pay up when that one dumb-ass spilled hot coffee on themselves.

Though, on the flip side, should you be able to sue the bar you got picked up in if the guy who picked you up turns out to be a psychopathic killer?

I love that people continually bring up the McDonald's coffee thing. Ignoring the fact that McDonald's actually did keep their coffee at a temperature too hot to be considered safe without proper notification.

It continues to be the shining example of frivolous lawsuits...except that it wasn't one

You are correct. An entire generation of people would have grown up having no idea that coffee was hot if that one idiot didn't take one for the team and force companies everywhere to write derp on their coffee cups.

That's all I'm saying. Why is it that the rest of us have to suffer because of one moron? The McDonald's coffee thing was just the beginning of a long line of these occurrences.

how about you do some reading about a topic before you toss it around
http://ken_ashford.typepad.com/blog/2009/01/the-truth-about-that-mcdo n alds-hot-coffee-lawsuit.html

http://www.northshoreinjurylawyer.com/the-infamous-mcdonalds-coffee-c a se-the-truth-behind-the-spin/

You missed the point I was trying to make and it has since spiraled out of control.

I not saying McDonalds did no wrong here. Obviously they did. Details of the actual case aside. Can we all agree that in a common sense world we as human beings have a reasonably expectation that coffee is farking hot and if we spill it on ourselves it may burn us?

That's all I'm asking for, proof that common sense still exists.



No one should ever hand you something that can cause third-degree burns in a "to go" cup with a loose-fitting lid. It's not a question of "hot". It's a matter of "lethal". That's common sense.

csb: I know a retired McD's executive. The guy's full-derp tea-bagger right wing. And even he freely admits the coffee temperature issue was a known problem for a long time, and they were totally at fault. The only people who dispute this are people unfamiliar with the case (and those brainwashed by the massive PR campaign).
2013-01-24 01:59:52 PM  
1 vote:

ArcadianRefugee: bulldg4life: I love that people continually bring up the McDonald's coffee thing. Ignoring the fact that McDonald's actually did keep their coffee at a temperature too hot to be considered safe without proper notificationthe temperature recommended by the National Coffee Association for the past century.

FTFY. Sorry you don't feel 100 years of tradition is enough notification.

/Link


Clearly you still don't understand the issues here. The temperature recommended by the National Coffee Association notwithstanding, coffee served at 180-190 degrees can cause third degree burns within 2-7 seconds.
2013-01-24 01:44:12 PM  
1 vote:

ehahn: So there's SO many ways to meet people and its NOT Online! Maybe the stabbings drove that point home!


Because the person you meet in a bar or grocery store is guaranteed not to try and kill you?
2013-01-24 01:26:19 PM  
1 vote:

ManOfTeal: Sounds like someone has mounting medical bills that she cannot afford and is getting desperate.

Hell, it may work, McDonald's had to pay up when that one dumb-ass spilled hot coffee on themselves.

Though, on the flip side, should you be able to sue the bar you got picked up in if the guy who picked you up turns out to be a psychopathic killer?


Please stop repeating this. While the statement itself is not 'technically' false, it's still not a representation of what happened to that "dumb-ass" who was a 79 year old woman in the passenger seat of a stopped car, and all she wanted was medical bills paid for being burned by 190F coffee. Despite what you may have heard or imagined about the punitive damages awarded,(2.7 $M US, the equivalent of about 2 days of coffee revenues for McD's at the time) Ms. Liebeck settled with the insurance company out of court after the court settlement for less than $600,000US.


yes, I do have an issue with repeating ineffective and inaccurate information.

carry on.
2013-01-24 01:22:46 PM  
1 vote:

ongbok: stonicus: ongbok: Didn't read the article, but did the website even know that this guy tried to kill the first woman? Did the police contact them about his involvement? Was there any realistic way that they could have known that he tried to kill the first woman? If not then I really don't see how the family of the second woman would have a case either.

Go read the actual history of the McDonalds coffee lawsuit. It was not frivolous in any way shape or form. If anything, it showed just how super-sized of an asshole McDonalds can be.

What does what I posted have to do with McDonalds?


It has everything to do with the fact I clicked the quote button on the wrong post... =)
2013-01-24 01:20:22 PM  
1 vote:
If dating sites did actual background checks? It'd be Helloooooo ladies for a guy like me, because it would be a deserted wasteland, at least on the male side.
2013-01-24 01:20:22 PM  
1 vote:

ongbok: What does what I posted have to do with McDonalds?


don't deny it! obviously your a shill for them trying to defend their atrocious behaviour

my inner child still has the scars to prove it
2013-01-24 01:18:03 PM  
1 vote:

MythDragon: You can meet crazy farking people on the internet. News at 11. Not News on Fark.


Fixed.
2013-01-24 01:04:19 PM  
1 vote:
Woman Seeking Man: Desperate middle aged woman seeking same for friendship, possibly more. My ideal man is a bit of a "bad boy". My turns-ons include spontaneity, surprise visits, edged weapons and steel-toed boots.
2013-01-24 01:02:36 PM  
1 vote:
I worked at a high-end brick & mortar dating service where we would conduct face to face interviews with each applicant. I can honestly say that each and every member had serious issues. Perhaps not violent (although some actually turned out that way), but every single one out of hundreds I interviewed and became members needed serious help.
2013-01-24 12:59:11 PM  
1 vote:

bulldg4life: ManOfTeal: Sounds like someone has mounting medical bills that she cannot afford and is getting desperate.

Hell, it may work, McDonald's had to pay up when that one dumb-ass spilled hot coffee on themselves.

Though, on the flip side, should you be able to sue the bar you got picked up in if the guy who picked you up turns out to be a psychopathic killer?

I love that people continually bring up the McDonald's coffee thing. Ignoring the fact that McDonald's actually did keep their coffee at a temperature too hot to be considered safe without proper notification.

It continues to be the shining example of frivolous lawsuits...except that it wasn't one


You are correct. An entire generation of people would have grown up having no idea that coffee was hot if that one idiot didn't take one for the team and force companies everywhere to write derp on their coffee cups.

That's all I'm saying. Why is it that the rest of us have to suffer because of one moron? The McDonald's coffee thing was just the beginning of a long line of these occurrences.
2013-01-24 12:57:26 PM  
1 vote:

CapeFearCadaver: MythDragon: If any of you hotter farkettes (you weren't featured in a People of Walmart video) want to hook up, I am totaly not crazy and/or probably won't kill you.
It's the 'probably' that got me hot and bothered.


MythDragon seems like a nice guy. Don't be a pussy--look him up. What could go wrong? It's not like we actually know anyone who was victimized by a crazy man, right?
2013-01-24 12:51:24 PM  
1 vote:

SkunkWerks: FTA: "The 50-year-old real estate agent and mother of two said the attack left her hospitalized for months. She endured three head surgeries and a seizure. While she was in the hospital, Beckman said Ridley killed an Arizona woman he met on the same website."

Predict what again, subby?

I don't even think you'll need the horoscopes page for this one...


Yes, but that was AFTER the attack on this woman. The family of the Arizona woman who got killed have a way better case, since at that point the first (unprecedented) attack had already occurred.

I'd agree with website rules that say you are banned after one attempted murder of a member. I think that's more than fair.
2013-01-24 12:42:08 PM  
1 vote:

FullMetalPanda: I love those retarded commercials for those stir events where they try to make you think it's all attractive people. Notice there isn't an ugly person in sight? Yeah right...


And that everyone is talking it up and having a good time. I'm willing to bet the reality is more like the beginning of the lambda lambda lambda house party in Revenge of the Nerds.
2013-01-24 12:40:42 PM  
1 vote:
I've said it before..There are three sides to every story.
His...Hers...The Truth.
2013-01-24 12:40:34 PM  
1 vote:

Kristoph57: I'll be brief.

The lawyers are going to kill this lady.. in court.


Maybe not, with these you never hear the details. Who knows if there is evidence that match.com knowingly allows dangerous people to remain on their site.

Example: Say this guy was complained about multiple times and the staff did nothing about it.

Could be just a money grab for a settlement but a lot fo times the frivolous nature of the case is only because they don't specify the details. The McDonlads coffee case should be a reminder of that.
2013-01-24 12:39:52 PM  
1 vote:

Farce-Side: don't ever meet potential mates online.


what about Fark Parties?
2013-01-24 12:39:30 PM  
1 vote:
I assume if you are a Las Vegas realtor, you are a horrible person.
2013-01-24 12:37:07 PM  
1 vote:
FTA: "The 50-year-old real estate agent and mother of two said the attack left her hospitalized for months. She endured three head surgeries and a seizure. While she was in the hospital, Beckman said Ridley killed an Arizona woman he met on the same website."

Predict what again, subby?

I don't even think you'll need the horoscopes page for this one...
2013-01-24 12:34:09 PM  
1 vote:
Sounds like the biatch deserved it; get off my lawn.
 
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