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2013-01-24 01:44:05 PM  
i.imgur.com

The numbers weren't great, but they weren't that bad. They just weren't as not-bad as the analysts had been trained to expect. Jobs' Apple had a tendency to sandbag their estimates in order to report blowout earnings every quarter. Maybe Cook's Apple isn't doing that anymore, and the Street's finally caught on. (I have no position in AAPL.)
 
2013-01-24 02:31:26 PM  
For BGR that was reasonably level headed article.  I expected them to opine with some idiotic comment with no basis in history or reality like they usually do.

/then again - the comments delivered on that
 
2013-01-24 03:00:39 PM  
"Lack of innovative new products?" Apple hasn't had a bona fide innovation since the original iPhone. They simply copy shiat they see on Android phones. They were marketing their additional, noise canceling microphone as if it was the BEST THING EVAR! My LTEvo has that, as did my 3Dvo. LTE has been a thing nationwide for over two years, and Apple just now releases an LTE phone? The same with dual core processors. Apple seems to adopt technology once it's at least a generation old. My phone kicks the iPhone 5's ass in every respect except pixel density and battery life, but I'll take the 14 fewer pixels per inch and the talk time being reduced by a half hour if it means that I get a larger, higher res screen, Swype, and a micro USB port.

/the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.
//Apple knows that they could put shiat in a stylish metal, plastic, and glass chassis and their customers would buy it
///and applaud the iFeces' innovation
 
2013-01-24 03:02:58 PM  
Apple died with steve jobbs leaving. TWICE.
 
2013-01-24 03:11:36 PM  
You're just holding your shares wrong.
 
2013-01-24 03:45:20 PM  

Flint Ironstag: You're just holding your shares wrong.


www.win-with-women.com
 
2013-01-24 04:11:24 PM  

twat_waffle: /the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.


Despite benchmarking faster than all of them?

The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

You have some flecks of spittle and bullshiat right there on the corner of your mouth.
 
2013-01-24 04:17:38 PM  

twat_waffle: "Lack of innovative new products?" Apple hasn't had a bona fide innovation since the original iPhone. They simply copy shiat they see on Android phones. They were marketing their additional, noise canceling microphone as if it was the BEST THING EVAR! My LTEvo has that, as did my 3Dvo. LTE has been a thing nationwide for over two years, and Apple just now releases an LTE phone? The same with dual core processors. Apple seems to adopt technology once it's at least a generation old. My phone kicks the iPhone 5's ass in every respect except pixel density and battery life, but I'll take the 14 fewer pixels per inch and the talk time being reduced by a half hour if it means that I get a larger, higher res screen, Swype, and a micro USB port.

/the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.
//Apple knows that they could put shiat in a stylish metal, plastic, and glass chassis and their customers would buy it
///and applaud the iFeces' innovation


First, apple isn't a tech company. They are a brand. They don't need to innovate. They just need to keep pace with everyone else and remind everyone that their product says apple on the back.

Second, the problem is that phones are starting to plateau. You can only have a screen so big, or so much ram, or so much processing power because batteries can only provide so much power. While there was a big jump to 2g, 3g and arguably 4g. And battery life has grown steadily...you can only put so much into so little a package.

Third. People are getting set in their ways. android people on their second or even 3rd phone don't want to have to go and re-buy accessories, apps, and learn how to use a new phone interface. Maybe iphone 5 is better...but it is worth $100 in new accessories?

Fourth. Apple still made a boatload of money...just not as much as wall street expected them to. keep that in mind.
 
2013-01-24 04:28:11 PM  

BullBearMS: twat_waffle: /the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.

Despite benchmarking faster than all of them?

The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

You have some flecks of spittle and bullshiat right there on the corner of your mouth.


Yay, it's fast. It still sucks compared to the new Android devices. I remember when it was iFanboys arguing that it's all about the user experience, not the specs.
 
2013-01-24 04:41:34 PM  

BullBearMS: twat_waffle: /the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.

Despite benchmarking faster than all of them?

The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

You have some flecks of spittle and bullshiat right there on the corner of your mouth.


You know what computers have been doing with their increasing processing power for forty years? Multitasking.
 
2013-01-24 04:46:40 PM  

BullBearMS: twat_waffle: /the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.

Despite benchmarking faster than all of them?

The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

You have some flecks of spittle and bullshiat right there on the corner of your mouth.


With excellent battery life, and one of the best cameras in one of the thinnest housings as well.
 
2013-01-24 04:49:36 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: BullBearMS: twat_waffle: /the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.

Despite benchmarking faster than all of them?

The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

You have some flecks of spittle and bullshiat right there on the corner of your mouth.

Yay, it's fast. It still sucks compared to the new Android devices. I remember when it was iFanboys arguing that it's all about the user experience, not the specs.


It's not just roughly twice as fast on the CPU and GPU fronts as the Galaxy S III, it also crushes it on battery life when you actually try to use the damn thing instead of leaving it in standby.

dl.dropbox.com

Double the performance, and twice the battery life?

Somebodies flagship phone really does suck, but it's not Apple's.
 
2013-01-24 04:50:08 PM  

/the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.
//Apple knows that they could put shiat in a stylish metal, plastic, and glass chassis and their customers would buy it
///and applaud the iFeces' innovation

First, apple isn't a tech company. They are a brand. They don't need to innovate. They just need to keep pace with everyone else and remind everyone that their product says apple on the back.

Second, the problem is that phones are starting to plateau. You can only have a screen so big, or so much ram, or so much processing power because batteries can only provide so much power. While there was a big jump to 2g, 3g and arguably 4g. And battery life has grown steadily...you can only put so much into so little a package.

Third. People are getting set in their ways. android people on their second or even 3rd phone don't want to have to go and re-buy accessories, apps, and learn how to use a new phone interface. Maybe iphone 5 is better...but it is worth $100 in new accessories?

Fourth. Apple still made a boatload of money...just not as much as wall street expected them to. keep that in mind.


Pretty much sums it up right there.

I remember seeing that for 2011 something like 75% of Apple's revenue came from iPhone sales. When that product takes a hit to its image, warranted or not, this kind of market reaction shouldn't be a surprise.

Without Jobs there to keep fanning the flames it seems the company has lost its luster to investors.
 
2013-01-24 04:53:20 PM  
Apple's revenues grew by 18% to post at $54.5 billion, but their net income was essentially the same despite the increase in revenue. The concern of Apple being able to maintain their historically (way) better than average margins is being question. I'm not sure if there were non-recurring charges that drive down their net profit, but I can understand the concern from analysts although the losses in the stock seem rather heavy..
 
2013-01-24 05:06:54 PM  

BullBearMS: It's not just roughly twice as fast on the CPU and GPU fronts as the Galaxy S III,


static.trustedreviews.com

Aww, too bad.
 
2013-01-24 05:12:37 PM  

Dokushin: BullBearMS: It's not just roughly twice as fast on the CPU and GPU fronts as the Galaxy S III,

[static.trustedreviews.com image 402x280]

Aww, too bad.


You mean the quad core international version of the Galaxy S III that isn't sold inside the United States?

Awww. Too bad.
 
2013-01-24 05:17:23 PM  
Speaking of crushing the competition.

dl.dropbox.com
Gaming at 13 frames a second on the Galaxy S III versus 27 frames a second on the iPhone?

That's just a massive spanking on Samsung's flagship phone.
 
2013-01-24 05:20:43 PM  

Dokushin: BullBearMS: It's not just roughly twice as fast on the CPU and GPU fronts as the Galaxy S III,

[static.trustedreviews.com image 402x280]

Aww, too bad.


The Samsung lost the comparison test you linked to. This graphic refers to the "power" section

static.trustedreviews.com
The iPhone has a slower, less power hungry processor that performs more efficiently and makes the device perform faster.
 
2013-01-24 05:21:37 PM  

BullBearMS: twat_waffle: /the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.

Despite benchmarking faster than all of them?

The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

You have some flecks of spittle and bullshiat right there on the corner of your mouth.


What exactly does that mean to me the user? Exactly? Can I surf the net quicker? I can watch full HD video perfectly on my HTC One X (In full 720P unlike the iPhone which doesn't have enough pixels) so how would a faster processor make that any better? I can even play that video in a small window while I surf the net.

So what actual advantage does that faster processor offer me?

Because I have a bigger and better screen, far more flexibility to arrange my home screens the way I want, widgets that do far more than the iPhone fixed icons, like the closk icon that always displays 10.15 or the weather icon that always says 73 and sunny. On my phone those icons give me the actual time and the actual weather.
I also have the freedom to install apps from anywhere. Hope you didn't have that app Apple just recalled yesterday because they didn't like it....

Glad you enjoy your phone. I love mine.
 
2013-01-24 05:26:18 PM  

BullBearMS: Dokushin: BullBearMS: It's not just roughly twice as fast on the CPU and GPU fronts as the Galaxy S III,

[static.trustedreviews.com image 402x280]

Aww, too bad.

You mean the quad core international version of the Galaxy S III that isn't sold inside the United States?

Awww. Too bad.


Let's use our Amazing Deductive Powers to scroll up a little bit! Hey Bob, let's see what he said!

BullBearMS: It's not just roughly twice as fast on the CPU and GPU fronts as the Galaxy S III


But wait -- surely we missed the part where he mentioned he's only talking about the slower version of the SIII and not the faster version? Bob, run it again!

BullBearMS: It's not just roughly twice as fast on the CPU and GPU fronts as the Galaxy S III,


Weird, we must be missing it -- one more time?

BullBearMS: It's not just roughly twice as fast on the CPU and GPU fronts as the Galaxy S III,


Man, that's really strange. Guess he's just full of baloney. Well, wait, no, it was an honest mistake. He meant the US one and forgot to type it. That means the iPhone must be twice as fa--

www.gforgames.com

--no, nevermind, just baloney.

Hey, Bob, what do you think about people that have to lie to make their product look good?
 
2013-01-24 05:26:32 PM  

Flint Ironstag: So what actual advantage does that faster processor offer me?


It's not just faster, it's faster and much more power efficient at the same time.

You don't know why you might want your phone's battery to last through a full day's use and not just a full day on standby?

Let's go back and take a peek at the graph with the iPhone lasting 8 hours while constantly browsing the web over LTE and the Galaxy S III only lasting 4.
 
2013-01-24 05:29:26 PM  

fo_sho!: Dokushin: BullBearMS: It's not just roughly twice as fast on the CPU and GPU fronts as the Galaxy S III,

[static.trustedreviews.com image 402x280]

Aww, too bad.

The Samsung lost the comparison test you linked to. This graphic refers to the "power" section

[static.trustedreviews.com image 600x142]
The iPhone has a slower, less power hungry processor that performs more efficiently and makes the device perform faster.


So you have a source to support the "iPhone 5 CPU is twice as fast as S3" claim made by BullBearMS? Also, can you explain "slower...processor...makes the device perform faster?" Why would that not be reflected in benchmarks?
 
2013-01-24 05:32:51 PM  
Then there is the shiatty quality of the Galaxy S III's pentile display.

the Brightness is about half of the iPhone 5 due to power limits from the lower power efficiency of OLEDs and concerns regarding premature OLED aging. The Color Gamut is not only much larger than the Standard Color Gamut, which leads to distorted and exaggerated colors, but the Color Gamut is quite lopsided, with Green being a lot more saturated than Red or Blue, which adds a Green color caste to many images.

Samsung has not bothered to correct or calibrate their display colors to bring them into closer agreement with the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut, so many images appear over saturated and gaudy. Running Time on battery is less than the iPhone 5 due to the lower power efficiency of OLEDs, even given that the Galaxy S III has a much larger battery capacity and much lower Brightness.

The Galaxy S III has a PenTile OLED display, which has only half of the number of Red and Blue sub-pixels as in standard RGB displays, like those on the iPhones. The eye's resolution for color image detail is lower, so this works well for photographic and video image content, but NOT for computer generated colored text and fine graphics because it produces visible pixelation, moiré, and other very visible artifacts, so a PenTile display is not as sharp as its pixel Resolution and PPI would indicate.


Compared to the high quality Apple display.

Based on our extensive Lab measurements the iPhone 5 has a true state-of-the-art display - it's not perfect and there is plenty of room for improvements (and competitors) but it's the best Smartphone display we have tested to date.

Yet another spanking.
 
2013-01-24 05:35:38 PM  

BullBearMS: Then there is the shiatty quality of the Galaxy S III's pentile display.
Blah
Blah
Blah


That's interesting. How's 720p look on that screen when you have to downscale it because you don't have the resolution to display it?

Oh, and where's the twice-as-fast CPU you were talking about?
 
2013-01-24 05:39:33 PM  

Dokushin: fo_sho!: Dokushin: BullBearMS: It's not just roughly twice as fast on the CPU and GPU fronts as the Galaxy S III,

[static.trustedreviews.com image 402x280]

Aww, too bad.

The Samsung lost the comparison test you linked to. This graphic refers to the "power" section

[static.trustedreviews.com image 600x142]
The iPhone has a slower, less power hungry processor that performs more efficiently and makes the device perform faster.

So you have a source to support the "iPhone 5 CPU is twice as fast as S3" claim made by BullBearMS? Also, can you explain "slower...processor...makes the device perform faster?" Why would that not be reflected in benchmarks?


You don't understand what a clock speed is, or how clock speed relates to power draw?

The iPhone 4S running the Safari browser in iOS 6.0 on a dual-core 800MHz A5 processor is about on par with leading Android 4.0 phones like the Samsung Galaxy S III and the Motorola Droid RAZR M, both of which are using 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processors.

The iPhone 5 takes things to the next level with a processor that can compete with the S4 along with the fast browser. Its Browsermark score is 80 percent higher, and it shows much quicker Sunspider times.

Browsing the web 80% faster despite having it's CPU clocked at half the speed?
 
2013-01-24 05:41:50 PM  
 
2013-01-24 05:42:51 PM  

BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: So what actual advantage does that faster processor offer me?

It's not just faster, it's faster and much more power efficient at the same time.

You don't know why you might want your phone's battery to last through a full day's use and not just a full day on standby?

Let's go back and take a peek at the graph with the iPhone lasting 8 hours while constantly browsing the web over LTE and the Galaxy S III only lasting 4.


Yeah, I sometimes forget to put my phone on charge and it lasts the next day until that evening with reasonable use, surfing, checking mail every two minutes, texts, some maps.

All while powering a bigger screen....
 
2013-01-24 05:44:52 PM  

BullBearMS: Browsing the web 80% faster despite having it's CPU clocked at half the speed?


Browser scores can vary by 80% between browsers on the same phone, son. That means -- I'll say this slow -- that an 80% variance doesn't mean anything about the CPU, unless you think launching a different browser somehow swaps out the hardware in your phone.
 
2013-01-24 05:46:00 PM  
BullBearMS, we get it. You really, really, like Apple. I am glad you found your calling in life.
 
2013-01-24 05:46:18 PM  

BullBearMS: Awwww... shiatty pentile display is shiatty pentile display.


BullBearMS: so this works well for photographic and video image content


*cough*
 
2013-01-24 05:47:22 PM  

BullBearMS: Browsing the web 80% faster despite having it's CPU clocked at half the speed?


Oops. My bad. They moved the clock of the A6 up to 1.3 ghz.

It's 80% faster despite only having 87% of the clock speed.
 
2013-01-24 05:49:49 PM  

BullBearMS: Dokushin: fo_sho!: Dokushin: BullBearMS: It's not just roughly twice as fast on the CPU and GPU fronts as the Galaxy S III,

[static.trustedreviews.com image 402x280]

Aww, too bad.

The Samsung lost the comparison test you linked to. This graphic refers to the "power" section

[static.trustedreviews.com image 600x142]
The iPhone has a slower, less power hungry processor that performs more efficiently and makes the device perform faster.

So you have a source to support the "iPhone 5 CPU is twice as fast as S3" claim made by BullBearMS? Also, can you explain "slower...processor...makes the device perform faster?" Why would that not be reflected in benchmarks?

You don't understand what a clock speed is, or how clock speed relates to power draw?

The iPhone 4S running the Safari browser in iOS 6.0 on a dual-core 800MHz A5 processor is about on par with leading Android 4.0 phones like the Samsung Galaxy S III and the Motorola Droid RAZR M, both of which are using 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processors.

The iPhone 5 takes things to the next level with a processor that can compete with the S4 along with the fast browser. Its Browsermark score is 80 percent higher, and it shows much quicker Sunspider times.

Browsing the web 80% faster despite having it's CPU clocked at half the speed?


What do you mean by browsing the web 80% faster? Do you mean it downloads pages 80% faster, because comparisons with friends and plenty of comparisons on Youtube don't support that.

So what exactly does that faster processor give me? What's in it for me?

A F1 car has more power than an Aston Martin but the Aston is a far superior car for what I want to use a car for. What does that faster processor actually do?
 
2013-01-24 05:50:17 PM  

Dokushin: BullBearMS: Browsing the web 80% faster despite having it's CPU clocked at half the speed?

Browser scores can vary by 80% between browsers on the same phone, son. That means -- I'll say this slow -- that an 80% variance doesn't mean anything about the CPU, unless you think launching a different browser somehow swaps out the hardware in your phone.


So the real problem is the shiatty Chrome browser they used for their Android testing and not the shiatty Galaxy S III hardware?
 
2013-01-24 05:51:48 PM  

Flint Ironstag: So what exactly does that faster processor give me? What's in it for me?


Double the battery life vs. the Galaxy S III when both phones are constantly browsing through the same web pages over LTE.
 
2013-01-24 05:55:20 PM  
I have an Android for me and an iPhone for work. I like them both.

You may now resume your internet slapfight.
 
2013-01-24 05:59:27 PM  

BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: So what exactly does that faster processor give me? What's in it for me?

Double the battery life vs. the Galaxy S III when both phones are constantly browsing through the same web pages over LTE.


So double the battery life? Then it isn't "Double the performance, and twice the battery life then, is it?

And compared to my HTC its about 20% more life. Since my HTC has a bigger screen and more pixels, capable of full HD, I'd say that's about equal. As I said my phone can last two days so I have no complaints.

So we're back to all the advantages of Android, screen layout flexibility, widgets that do something instead of static icons, not having Apple suddenly decide it doesn't approve of an app I have...
 
2013-01-24 06:00:51 PM  

BullBearMS: Dokushin: BullBearMS: Browsing the web 80% faster despite having it's CPU clocked at half the speed?

Browser scores can vary by 80% between browsers on the same phone, son. That means -- I'll say this slow -- that an 80% variance doesn't mean anything about the CPU, unless you think launching a different browser somehow swaps out the hardware in your phone.

So the real problem is the shiatty Chrome browser they used for their Android testing and not the shiatty Galaxy S III hardware?


It's not Chrome they're testing, I don't think -- they're still using the generic "Android" browser in those tests. Move to Chrome didn't happen until Jelly Bean.

But yes, I will agree with you 100% that the stock ICS Android browser is not any good. I like mobile Chrome, myself, but I'm thinking about moving to Dolphin Jetpack -- they've done some really good optimizations and the browser just "feels" better.
 
2013-01-24 06:05:21 PM  

Dokushin: BullBearMS: Dokushin: BullBearMS: Browsing the web 80% faster despite having it's CPU clocked at half the speed?

Browser scores can vary by 80% between browsers on the same phone, son. That means -- I'll say this slow -- that an 80% variance doesn't mean anything about the CPU, unless you think launching a different browser somehow swaps out the hardware in your phone.

So the real problem is the shiatty Chrome browser they used for their Android testing and not the shiatty Galaxy S III hardware?

It's not Chrome they're testing, I don't think -- they're still using the generic "Android" browser in those tests. Move to Chrome didn't happen until Jelly Bean.

But yes, I will agree with you 100% that the stock ICS Android browser is not any good. I like mobile Chrome, myself, but I'm thinking about moving to Dolphin Jetpack -- they've done some really good optimizations and the browser just "feels" better.


You are incorrect. They tested the stock browser and Chrome and reported that it didn't make a significant difference.
 
2013-01-24 06:31:42 PM  

BullBearMS: twat_waffle: /the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.

Despite benchmarking faster than all of them?

The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

You have some flecks of spittle and bullshiat right there on the corner of your mouth.


Can always count on you to show up to defend Apple.

Yes, battery life is awesome. Yes the CPU is insanely fast. Yes the phone is extremely thin.

These are things that are being beaten on a regular basis though. iOS still sucks the big one.
 
2013-01-24 06:33:50 PM  

DoomPaul: Apple's revenues grew by 18% to post at $54.5 billion, but their net income was essentially the same despite the increase in revenue. The concern of Apple being able to maintain their historically (way) better than average margins is being question. I'm not sure if there were non-recurring charges that drive down their net profit, but I can understand the concern from analysts although the losses in the stock seem rather heavy.


They warned back in October that they would have extra costs or reduced profits associated with getting all their new products to market, but the analysts seem to have ignored that. For instance, they lost roughly 700,000 in iMac sales compared to the same quarter a year ago because they were a month late getting them into the stores.
 
2013-01-24 06:54:40 PM  

wholedamnshow: iOS still sucks the big one.


Phone customers don't seem to agree.

Verizon sold 6.2 million iPhones in the last quarter, but only 3.6 million Android devices combined.

What in the world just changed? For the first time, Verizon can offer a free iPhone 4 with contract. The prior "free" device was the 3GS and it only worked on AT&T's network.

Android had been very popular when it was the only option if you wanted a device that was free with contract. Now that customers looking for a "free" device have a choice, the tide has reversed.
 
2013-01-24 06:55:00 PM  

BullBearMS: Dokushin: BullBearMS: Dokushin: BullBearMS: Browsing the web 80% faster despite having it's CPU clocked at half the speed?

Browser scores can vary by 80% between browsers on the same phone, son. That means -- I'll say this slow -- that an 80% variance doesn't mean anything about the CPU, unless you think launching a different browser somehow swaps out the hardware in your phone.

So the real problem is the shiatty Chrome browser they used for their Android testing and not the shiatty Galaxy S III hardware?

It's not Chrome they're testing, I don't think -- they're still using the generic "Android" browser in those tests. Move to Chrome didn't happen until Jelly Bean.

But yes, I will agree with you 100% that the stock ICS Android browser is not any good. I like mobile Chrome, myself, but I'm thinking about moving to Dolphin Jetpack -- they've done some really good optimizations and the browser just "feels" better.

You are incorrect. They tested the stock browser and Chrome and reported that it didn't make a significant difference.


YAY! I forgot to favorite you earlier. You are my number 1 iphone 5 fanboi!
 
2013-01-24 07:31:18 PM  

H31N0US: BullBearMS, we get it. You really, really, like Apple. I am glad you found your calling in life.


I wouldn't put much weight in his words. After all, this is the guy who was complaining that Google Maps tells him to walk on water:
www.fark.com/comments/7342673/The-new-iPhone-5-is-now-a-flip-phone
 
2013-01-24 07:45:50 PM  
It wouldn't be an Apple/Android thread without butthurt Android fanboys crying about benchmarks and independent testing.

Well, that and the endless stream of outright lies like this one.

twat_waffle: /the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.

 
2013-01-24 08:04:06 PM  

finnished: H31N0US: BullBearMS, we get it. You really, really, like Apple. I am glad you found your calling in life.

I wouldn't put much weight in his words. After all, this is the guy who was complaining that Google Maps tells him to walk on water:
www.fark.com/comments/7342673/The-new-iPhone-5-is-now-a-flip-phone


Didn't someone link to an Apple maps example that told you to walk across a harbour? The Google example actually stated it was telling you to take a ferry, and gave you the option to not take the ferry.
 
2013-01-24 08:06:55 PM  

BullBearMS: It wouldn't be an Apple/Android thread without butthurt Android fanboys crying about benchmarks and independent testing.

Well, that and the endless stream of outright lies like this one.

twat_waffle: /the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.


I'm still waiting for you to tell me exactly what the benefit is in having that much faster processor.

What does it actually do for me? What benefit does it offer? The small difference in battery life between the iPhone and my HTC looks like it is down to the fact that I've got a far bigger, and HD capable, screen.
 
2013-01-24 08:20:36 PM  
 
2013-01-24 08:20:56 PM  

Flint Ironstag: BullBearMS: It wouldn't be an Apple/Android thread without butthurt Android fanboys crying about benchmarks and independent testing.

Well, that and the endless stream of outright lies like this one.

twat_waffle: /the iPhone 5 would be a budget phone on a budget carrier if it ran Android.

I'm still waiting for you to tell me exactly what the benefit is in having that much faster processor.

What does it actually do for me? What benefit does it offer? The small difference in battery life between the iPhone and my HTC looks like it is down to the fact that I've got a far bigger, and HD capable, screen.


It makes apps launch faster and the entire UI operation smoother and glitch free.
That's what a faster processor does.
If you compile your individual video clips using iMovie or something that is faster too.
A faster processor gives your phone the ability to do phone things faster, assuming the software takes advantage of it.
 
2013-01-24 08:24:08 PM  
CHRIST ON A CRACKER IT'S A PHONE!!!

IT'S NOT YOUR SELF-WORTH, IT'S A FARKING TOOL. CHOOSE THE BEST ONE FOR YOU.
 
2013-01-24 08:36:03 PM  

Flint Ironstag: The small difference in battery life between the iPhone and my HTC


You're calling over an hour of time browsing the web over 4G a "small" difference?

Getting an hour less performance out of a 20% larger battery (6.7 watt hours vs 5.5 watt hours), isn't exactly what anyone would call winning.
 
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