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(National Review)   "[Hillary Clinton's] poor excuse is worth examining." Boy, this Elliott Abrams guy really seems to know what he's talking about. I bet he'd have handled a problem arising in the Middle East much better   (nationalreview.com) divider line 106
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2013-01-24 11:08:47 AM  
What person was ultimately responsible for the security of the Libyan diplomatic mission?

Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?
 
2013-01-24 11:14:04 AM  
Is this supposed to place Benghazi on a similar plane as Iran-Contra?

This is like being criticized by Charles Manson for jaywalking.
 
2013-01-24 11:25:21 AM  
Benghazijuice...


Benghazijuice...


BENGHAZIJUICE!!
 
2013-01-24 11:25:39 AM  
That's some logical jiu jitsu right there.

So Washington receives a million cables a year addressed to SecState, but in fact cables sent out are only addressed from "Clinton" if she is actually in Washington.

This must be like one of those 3D posters I could never see the space shuttle in.
 
2013-01-24 11:27:43 AM  

PreMortem: That's some logical jiu jitsu right there.

So Washington receives a million cables a year addressed to SecState, but in fact cables sent out are only addressed from "Clinton" if she is actually in Washington.

This must be like one of those 3D posters I could never see the space shuttle in.


It's a schooner.
 
2013-01-24 11:28:12 AM  

PreMortem: This must be like one of those 3D posters I could never see the space shuttle in.


That's because you're supposed to be looking for a schooner.
 
2013-01-24 11:28:56 AM  

Bloody William: It's a schooner.


*shakes fist*
 
2013-01-24 11:38:37 AM  
It's pretty obvious that any statement that accurately explains reality, that doesn't incriminate Clinton or Obama, is going to be called a "lame excuse" by the Republican Scum.
 
2013-01-24 11:41:00 AM  
 
2013-01-24 11:47:54 AM  

phaseolus: Aha, here it is. This is how Abrams handled things -- Elliott Abrams -- Pleaded guilty October 7, 1991, to two misdemeanor charges of withholding information from Congress about secret government efforts to support the Nicaraguan contra rebels during a ban on such aid. U.S. District Chief Judge Aubrey E. Robinson, Jr., sentenced Abrams November 15, 1991, to two years probation and 100 hours community service. Abrams was pardoned December 24, 1992.


FTA: During her congressional testimony today, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeatedly defended her failure to see key cables dealing with Benghazi by noting how many cables the State Department receives. She explained there are 1.4 million cables to the department a year, all addressed to her as secretary.
That's wrong."

Wow, talk about projection.
 
2013-01-24 11:49:46 AM  
Elliott Abrams? Really? Elliott Farking Abrams?

Who could possibly care what that disgrace thinks?
 
2013-01-24 11:50:40 AM  

Bloody William: PreMortem: That's some logical jiu jitsu right there.

So Washington receives a million cables a year addressed to SecState, but in fact cables sent out are only addressed from "Clinton" if she is actually in Washington.

This must be like one of those 3D posters I could never see the space shuttle in.

It's a schooner.


You dumb bastard, it's a sailboat.
 
2013-01-24 11:51:01 AM  
When a white Republican is in office it is unpatriotic to question his lack of evidence to going to war, terrorist attacks around the world, leaking information about CIA operatives, and an array of other things that fall under national security.

When a black Democrat is in office.....
 
2013-01-24 11:51:53 AM  
As long as the Republicans are basing their entire argument on speculation there is no way to answer their complaint.
 
2013-01-24 11:52:42 AM  

jayhawk88: Bloody William: PreMortem: That's some logical jiu jitsu right there.

So Washington receives a million cables a year addressed to SecState, but in fact cables sent out are only addressed from "Clinton" if she is actually in Washington.

This must be like one of those 3D posters I could never see the space shuttle in.

It's a schooner.

You dumb bastard, it's a sailboat.


A schooner is a sailboat, stupid head!
 
2013-01-24 11:53:48 AM  

mrshowrules: What person was ultimately responsible for the security of the Libyan diplomatic mission?

Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?


According to Republicans who ever currently has the most political gain for them.
 
2013-01-24 11:57:11 AM  

red5ish: As long as the Republicans are basing their entire argument on speculation there is no way to answer their complaint.


So that's why Fox is heading into Alex Jones U.N. black helicopters and flouride conspiracy territory?
 
2013-01-24 12:00:54 PM  

Bloody William: A schooner is a sailboat, stupid head!


Brenda?
 
2013-01-24 12:03:22 PM  
Ellitot "complicit in the murders of over 70,000 in El Salvador alone" Abrams ...can eat a dick
 
2013-01-24 12:03:33 PM  
/hot like Republican blowhards catching the scent of a Democrat's laundry
 
2013-01-24 12:04:03 PM  

Sho_Nuff: Bloody William: A schooner is a sailboat, stupid head!

Brenda?


Joey Lauren Adams' boobs?

// I mean: "Dick!"
 
2013-01-24 12:04:49 PM  
it shouldn't even be about the total number of cables. anyone that has worked for the government knows that if you don't spend the all the money you get now, they may give you less later. (they explain this in that Voyager episode where they kidnap the doctor to work in that evil hospital).

I doubt that a single diplomatic mission out there requested less money for security. Every single mission must have actually requested more money for security at some point this year. It may have been an error not to give it to the Benghazi consulate... but i doubt that anyone can ever get all of those right.
 
2013-01-24 12:06:13 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Elliott Abrams? Really? Elliott Farking Abrams?

Who could possibly care what that disgrace thinks?


You see there's this little known webshiate called FreeRepublic and, well you should just go look for yourself.
 
2013-01-24 12:06:35 PM  

mrshowrules: What person was ultimately responsible for the security of the Libyan diplomatic mission?

Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?


I seriously doubt that Ferris Bueller could have stopped an armed gang of terrorists, even with his all his charm.
 
2013-01-24 12:07:24 PM  
More hiding and backpedaling from the Clintonistas again! It shows you where their priorities are. They don't even care about the death of Ambassador Craig Stevenson. This is just like when Ted Kommidey killed poor Mary Jean Kaepernick. Dems never change.
 
2013-01-24 12:08:33 PM  
Let's try this again...

flipside-ls.com
 
2013-01-24 12:14:25 PM  
His wife is an honest to god psychopath. Im on a mobile and cant post links, so just google "Rachel Abrams wants to feed palestinian children to sharks"
 
2013-01-24 12:16:23 PM  

TheBlackrose: Let's try this again...

[flipside-ls.com image 400x389]


Milhouse is more of a meme than Benghazi will ever be, and we all know that Milhouse is NOT a meme.

/Milhouse is not a meme IS a meme
 
2013-01-24 12:16:38 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: His wife is an honest to god psychopath. Im on a mobile and cant post links, so just google "Rachel Abrams wants to feed palestinian children to sharks"


"GILAD! He's free and he's home in the bosom of his family and his country. Celebrate, Israel, with all the joyous gratitude that fills your hearts, as we all do along with you. Then round up his captors, the slaughtering, death-worshiping, innocent-butchering, child-sacrificing savages who dip their hands in blood and use women-those who aren't strapping bombs to their own devils' spawn and sending them out to meet their seventy-two virgins by taking the lives of the school-bus-riding, heart-drawing, Transformer-doodling, homework-losing children of Others-and their offspring-those who haven't already been pimped out by their mothers to the murder god-as shields, hiding behind their burkas and cradles like the unmanned animals they are, and throw them not into your prisons, where they can bide until they're traded by the thousands for another child of Israel, but into the sea, to float there, food for sharks, stargazers, and whatever other oceanic carnivores God has put there for the purpose."

Oh my god.
 
2013-01-24 12:18:21 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: His wife is an honest to god psychopath. Im on a mobile and cant post links, so just google "Rachel Abrams wants to feed palestinian children to sharks"


It says that she wants to feed a ThinkProgress writer to sharks, not the Palestinian children.
 
2013-01-24 12:19:45 PM  
She said she wants to make Matzoh out of the blood of American liberals, not Christian children!
 
2013-01-24 12:22:05 PM  

mahuika: Cubicle Jockey: His wife is an honest to god psychopath. Im on a mobile and cant post links, so just google "Rachel Abrams wants to feed palestinian children to sharks"

"GILAD! He's free and he's home in the bosom of his family and his country. Celebrate, Israel, with all the joyous gratitude that fills your hearts, as we all do along with you. Then round up his captors, the slaughtering, death-worshiping, innocent-butchering, child-sacrificing savages who dip their hands in blood and use women-those who aren't strapping bombs to their own devils' spawn and sending them out to meet their seventy-two virgins by taking the lives of the school-bus-riding, heart-drawing, Transformer-doodling, homework-losing children of Others-and their offspring-those who haven't already been pimped out by their mothers to the murder god-as shields, hiding behind their burkas and cradles like the unmanned animals they are, and throw them not into your prisons, where they can bide until they're traded by the thousands for another child of Israel, but into the sea, to float there, food for sharks, stargazers, and whatever other oceanic carnivores God has put there for the purpose."

Oh my god.


Holy hot crap. I literally know settler-dwellers in Israel that are less hard-liney than that.

// no, seriously
 
2013-01-24 12:23:56 PM  
He's just preaching to the choir.
 
2013-01-24 12:25:36 PM  
How this man didn't face a firing squad is a mystery me.
 
2013-01-24 12:28:18 PM  
Please note that Jennifer Rubin of the WaPo retweeted a link to that rant with her agreement to Mrs. Abrams' sentiments, and still remains employed by the paper.
 
2013-01-24 12:29:17 PM  
The stink of GOP desperation is thick in the air this morning.
 
2013-01-24 12:38:55 PM  

Superjew: The stink of GOP desperation is thick in the air this morning.


They clearly though that Hillary taking the stand would be Obama's Waterloo. They didn't stop to check for fact first.
 
2013-01-24 12:42:13 PM  
During the Senate hearing into the Benghazi attack, Senator John McCain grilled Hillary Clinton about cables she read, when she knew they needed more security, and what the administration was doing during the attack and after, why the President didn't disclose sensitive information to the public regardless of what the Intelligence asked for, etc. In the midst of this questioning, John McCain says that he knew Chris Stevens well, and that on July 7th, Stevens expressed to McCain his "deep and grave" concerns over security in Libya.
Senator McCain expresses that Chris Stevens told him directly of his deep concerns over the security in Benghazi.
Senator McCain: "You knew Chris Stevens very well. I knew him very well. I knew him on July 7th when I went to Libya to observe the elections and at that time, on July 7th, he expressed to me his deep and grave concerns about security particularly in Benghazi. He continued to communicate with the State Department and I don't know who else as proven in those cables of his deep concern about the security there and the need for additional assistance."
Why didn't McCain do something about this information? He certainly knows Hillary Clinton well enough to have sent an email. He knew the House Republicans were holding up funding for security in Libya. Why didn't McCain say anything then?


/Why are the republicans in Congress holding up the money that the State Department asked for to increase security at the US embassies?
 
2013-01-24 12:53:53 PM  

Zoomaster: Why didn't McCain say anything then?


That's McCain's thing. He also knew how to catch bin Laden back in '08. He knows lot of things we can't make him prove.
 
2013-01-24 12:54:41 PM  

mahuika: "GILAD! He's free and he's home in the bosom of his family and his country. Celebrate, Israel, with all the joyous gratitude that fills your hearts, as we all do along with you. Then round up his captors, the slaughtering, death-worshiping, innocent-butchering, child-sacrificing savages who dip their hands in blood and use women-those who aren't strapping bombs to their own devils' spawn and sending them out to meet their seventy-two virgins by taking the lives of the school-bus-riding, heart-drawing, Transformer-doodling, homework-losing children of Others-and their offspring-those who haven't already been pimped out by their mothers to the murder god-as shields, hiding behind their burkas and cradles like the unmanned animals they are, and throw them not into your prisons, where they can bide until they're traded by the thousands for another child of Israel, but into the sea, to float there, food for sharks, stargazers, and whatever other oceanic carnivores God has put there for the purpose."

Oh my god.



Jeebus, that's Cranked To 11 Scale Crazy right there, and that's just the BAD GRAMMAR.
 
2013-01-24 12:56:44 PM  

Bloody William: jayhawk88: Bloody William: PreMortem: That's some logical jiu jitsu right there.

So Washington receives a million cables a year addressed to SecState, but in fact cables sent out are only addressed from "Clinton" if she is actually in Washington.

This must be like one of those 3D posters I could never see the space shuttle in.

It's a schooner.

You dumb bastard, it's a sailboat.

A schooner is a sailboat, stupid head!


unless it is a praire schooner.
 
2013-01-24 12:57:04 PM  

Stratohead: Ellitot "complicit in the murders of over 70,000 in El Salvador alone" Abrams ...can eat a dick


This; he should be thankful that no one has ordered that he be..."dealt" with for all that crap.
 
2013-01-24 12:57:28 PM  
Obsessively butthurt, that is.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-24 12:58:08 PM  

mahuika: Cubicle Jockey: His wife is an honest to god psychopath. Im on a mobile and cant post links, so just google "Rachel Abrams wants to feed palestinian children to sharks"

"GILAD! He's free and he's home in the bosom of his family and his country. Celebrate, Israel, with all the joyous gratitude that fills your hearts, as we all do along with you. Then round up his captors, the slaughtering, death-worshiping, innocent-butchering, child-sacrificing savages who dip their hands in blood and use women-those who aren't strapping bombs to their own devils' spawn and sending them out to meet their seventy-two virgins by taking the lives of the school-bus-riding, heart-drawing, Transformer-doodling, homework-losing children of Others-and their offspring-those who haven't already been pimped out by their mothers to the murder god-as shields, hiding behind their burkas and cradles like the unmanned animals they are, and throw them not into your prisons, where they can bide until they're traded by the thousands for another child of Israel, but into the sea, to float there, food for sharks, stargazers, and whatever other oceanic carnivores God has put there for the purpose."

Oh my god.


That's, uh.

That's special, right there.
 
2013-01-24 01:04:35 PM  

toomuchwhargarbl: red5ish: As long as the Republicans are basing their entire argument on speculation there is no way to answer their complaint.

So that's why Fox is heading into Alex Jones U.N. black helicopters and flouride conspiracy territory?


Heading into? They're there.

Dick Morris is now the Alex Jones of Fox News

Hannity and Morris discussing UN World Government

Dick Morris' new book "The Black Helicopters Are Coming!"
 
2013-01-24 01:15:19 PM  
Sow hat si the big conspiracy that peopel are pretending happened here?
 
2013-01-24 01:17:57 PM  
Kinda like when Michael Brown criticized Obama for his handling of Hurricane Sandy. Does anyone take these people seriously?
 
2013-01-24 01:26:21 PM  

dehehn: toomuchwhargarbl: red5ish: As long as the Republicans are basing their entire argument on speculation there is no way to answer their complaint.

So that's why Fox is heading into Alex Jones U.N. black helicopters and flouride conspiracy territory?

Heading into? They're there.

Dick Morris is now the Alex Jones of Fox News

Hannity and Morris discussing UN World Government

Dick Morris' new book "The Black Helicopters Are Coming!"


You mean the same Dick Morris that said "We're gonna win by a landslide." when referring to Romney's chances, only to be exposed as the farking clown he truly is?
 
2013-01-24 01:35:47 PM  

Rwa2play: You mean the same Dick Morris that said "We're gonna win by a landslide." when referring to Romney's chances, only to be exposed as the farking clown he truly is?


At least this time he only put his own foot in his mouth.
 
2013-01-24 01:38:12 PM  
There's a special circle of Hell being prepared just for Elliot Abrams.
 
2013-01-24 01:39:40 PM  

Fart_Machine: Kinda like when Michael Brown criticized Obama for his handling of Hurricane Sandy. Does anyone take these people seriously?


Not only did he criticize the Obama administration's handling of Hurricane Sandy, his central argument was the Obama administration reacted too quickly.
 
2013-01-24 01:42:42 PM  
Hillary 2016 - "What difference at this point does it make?"

Campaign ad - It was 3 am and "that cable did not come to my attention."
 
2013-01-24 01:43:19 PM  
i5.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-24 01:45:18 PM  

liam76: Sow hat si


images.icnetwork.co.uk

Si, si. Sow wear very pretty hat.
 
2013-01-24 02:02:30 PM  

Corvus: mrshowrules: What person was ultimately responsible for the security of the Libyan diplomatic mission?

Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?

According to Republicans who ever currently has the most political gain for them.


That's not where I was going with that.  Ambassador Stephens was the Chief of Mission.  His death and the other 3 deaths were effectively at least partially his fault.  I am not aware of any order that he go to Benghazzi.  If he has security concerns, he should have escalated them or foregone the trip to Benghazzi.  He took a risk probably even for the right reasons and good leaders do that but it does not absolve him of the role in not preventing the tragedy.

Department of State's role (if anything) should be replacing Ambassadors taking to many reckless chances.  Presumably also replacing Ambassadors, not taking any risk in the performance of their duties when some risk might be required.
 
2013-01-24 02:05:19 PM  

mrshowrules: Department of State's role (if anything) should be replacing Ambassadors taking to many reckless chances.  Presumably also replacing Ambassadors, not taking any risk in the performance of their duties when some risk might be required.



Well, I imagine at this point it's a foregone conclusion that Ambassador Stephens needs to be replaced...

Aisle seat, please.
 
2013-01-24 02:10:12 PM  
i.imgur.com

You can always count on a Clinton to be a top-notch liar.
 
2013-01-24 02:12:45 PM  

MeinRS6: [i.imgur.com image 550x367]

You can always count on a Clinton to be a top-notch liar.


You can always count on MeinRS6 to be a top-notch buffoon.
 
2013-01-24 02:25:31 PM  

MeinRS6: [i.imgur.com image 550x367]

You can always count on a Clinton to be a top-notch liar.


HAHAHAHAHA!!

/laughing at you, not with you
 
2013-01-24 02:28:29 PM  
You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.
 
2013-01-24 02:33:18 PM  

MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.


Yeah, OK, whatever
 
2013-01-24 02:38:10 PM  

MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.


I haven't seen any of the hearings and I just came in here to find out what was going on. Can you be so kind as to point out her lie?

Thanks.
 
2013-01-24 02:41:41 PM  

impaler: It's pretty obvious that any statement that accurately explains reality, that doesn't incriminate Clinton or Obama, is going to be called a "lame excuse" by the Republican Scum.


It's sad that statements like this is no longer hyperbolic histrionic party hackery, but: they obviously care more about their narrative than they do reporting news/reality.
 
2013-01-24 02:51:38 PM  

impaler: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

I haven't seen any of the hearings and I just came in here to find out what was going on. Can you be so kind as to point out her lie?

Thanks.


static01.mediaite.com
 
2013-01-24 02:55:39 PM  
From what I've read Clinton pretty much took responsibility for the cock-up itself (insufficient security response), and only really pushed back on the (untrue) implication/accusation that she participated in some sort of absurdly inept conspiracy to actively deceive congress about post-event intelligence.

Which seems reasonable to me, really.
 
2013-01-24 03:02:09 PM  

zappaisfrank: MeinRS6: [i.imgur.com image 550x367]

You can always count on a Clinton to be a top-notch liar.

You can always count on MeinRS6 to be a top-notch buffoon.


He's not always top-notch.  Sometimes he's lackluster.
 
2013-01-24 03:03:53 PM  

Jim_Callahan: From what I've read Clinton pretty much took responsibility for the cock-up itself (insufficient security response), and only really pushed back on the (untrue) implication/accusation that she participated in some sort of absurdly inept conspiracy to actively deceive congress about post-event intelligence.

Which seems reasonable to me, really.


Reasonable has nothing to do with it. This is, quite simply, butthurt minority Republicans doing their level best to smear the party in charge for political gain. It's an unfortunate situation, absolutely, but the Republican Outrage over it is nothing more than manufactured controversy in an attempt to make political hay from it...and outside the bubble, no one cares.
 
2013-01-24 03:04:30 PM  

MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.


Well politicians are full of shiat on the campaign trail but in her position as Secretary of State, I have never heard her being accused of lying.  Do you have a citation?
 
2013-01-24 03:12:11 PM  

Empty Matchbook: It's sad that statements like this is no longer hyperbolic histrionic party hackery, but: they obviously care more about their narrative than they do reporting news/reality


Yeah... there was no possible set of words that Clinton could have said that would have resulted in the Republicans saying, "Oh, well. Guess that settles it, thanks for clearing that up, Madame Secretary. Best wishes for your retirement!"
 
2013-01-24 03:15:42 PM  

impaler: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

I haven't seen any of the hearings and I just came in here to find out what was going on. Can you be so kind as to point out her lie?

Thanks.


Where would you like to start? With cattle futures, the travel office, "vast right-wing conspiracy", or more recently "Assad is a reformer", "the US must go into Libya", "this was all about a video"?

I mean, the chick is a professional libby liar that has been at it for decades. You can't just say "point out her lie" without being specific about it. There are so many to choose from.
 
2013-01-24 03:15:52 PM  

mrshowrules: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

Well politicians are full of shiat on the campaign trail but in her position as Secretary of State, I have never heard her being accused of lying.  Do you have a citation?


No, he doesn't. In Rightwingistan, the lie is implied and evident and therefore doesn't need proof. It simply IS because of who is saying it.
 
2013-01-24 03:17:32 PM  

MeinRS6: impaler: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

I haven't seen any of the hearings and I just came in here to find out what was going on. Can you be so kind as to point out her lie?

Thanks.

Where would you like to start? With cattle futures, the travel office, "vast right-wing conspiracy", or more recently "Assad is a reformer", "the US must go into Libya", "this was all about a video"?

I mean, the chick is a professional libby liar that has been at it for decades. You can't just say "point out her lie" without being specific about it. There are so many to choose from.


So, in other words...you got nothin'.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 
2013-01-24 03:19:39 PM  
Hillary takes total responsibility.
"The buck stops here."

They attempted a cover-up and it sorta worked. They misled the American people about what happened, attempting to buy some time until after the election.

Four month later, and the buck will have to stop somewhere else.

Other than the dead people, the sad part in all of this is that my Youtube videos are apparently not capable of causing riots around the world.
 
2013-01-24 03:46:00 PM  

OmarBradley: Hillary takes total responsibility.
"The buck stops here."

They attempted a cover-up and it sorta worked. They misled the American people about what happened, attempting to buy some time until after the election.

Four month later, and the buck will have to stop somewhere else.

Other than the dead people, the sad part in all of this is that my Youtube videos are apparently not capable of causing riots around the world.


Penetta corrected the protest stuff 6 weeks before the election sparky.  Hell, Romney wouldn't even touch the topic in the last debate because Obama farked him so badly with it.  There was no aspect of this story that wasn't not fully known by any literate person, 6 weeks before the election.

All the mouth breather s watching Fox were all convinced Obama personally had these diplomats delivered to the terrorists so they could be executed for his amusement.  Romney still lost by 4%.
 
2013-01-24 03:48:22 PM  
Elliott Abrams -- Pleaded guilty October 7, 1991, to two misdemeanor charges of withholding information from Congress about secret government efforts to support the Nicaraguan contra rebels during a ban on such aid. U.S. District Chief Judge Aubrey E. Robinson, Jr., sentenced Abrams November 15, 1991, to two years probation and 100 hours community service. Abrams was pardoned December 24, 1992.

(as noted by earlier farker's link). On a lark I decided to see if it'll show up if I disqus remark it on the NRO. Heh tho I got a "your comment is currently being mod-reviewed" on posting, so I'm thinking....not likely.
 
2013-01-24 03:58:24 PM  

MeinRS6: impaler: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

I haven't seen any of the hearings and I just came in here to find out what was going on. Can you be so kind as to point out her lie?

Thanks.

Where would you like to start? With cattle futures, the travel office, "vast right-wing conspiracy", or more recently "Assad is a reformer", "the US must go into Libya", "this was all about a video"?

I mean, the chick is a professional libby liar that has been at it for decades. You can't just say "point out her lie" without being specific about it. There are so many to choose from.


What no Vince Foster?
 
2013-01-24 04:03:46 PM  

zappaisfrank: MeinRS6: impaler: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

I haven't seen any of the hearings and I just came in here to find out what was going on. Can you be so kind as to point out her lie?

Thanks.

Where would you like to start? With cattle futures, the travel office, "vast right-wing conspiracy", or more recently "Assad is a reformer", "the US must go into Libya", "this was all about a video"?

I mean, the chick is a professional libby liar that has been at it for decades. You can't just say "point out her lie" without being specific about it. There are so many to choose from.

So, in other words...you got nothin'.

Thanks for clearing that up.


So, in other words, you have very poor reading comprehension.

Again, if you want to defend this sack of shiat, then go right ahead. I'm sure our dead in Libya would be really happy with your decision. Hell, you could just ignore the entire thing and do nothing, just like Obama did while our people were under attack. That would make you very presidential.
 
2013-01-24 04:05:14 PM  

MeinRS6: zappaisfrank: MeinRS6: impaler: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

I haven't seen any of the hearings and I just came in here to find out what was going on. Can you be so kind as to point out her lie?

Thanks.

Where would you like to start? With cattle futures, the travel office, "vast right-wing conspiracy", or more recently "Assad is a reformer", "the US must go into Libya", "this was all about a video"?

I mean, the chick is a professional libby liar that has been at it for decades. You can't just say "point out her lie" without being specific about it. There are so many to choose from.

So, in other words...you got nothin'.

Thanks for clearing that up.

So, in other words, you have very poor reading comprehension.

Again, if you want to defend this sack of shiat, then go right ahead. I'm sure our dead in Libya would be really happy with your decision. Hell, you could just ignore the entire thing and do nothing, just like Obama did while our people were under attack. That would make you very presidential.


www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
 
2013-01-24 04:05:28 PM  

mrshowrules: Penetta corrected the protest stuff 6 weeks before the election sparky.


Sorry about the confusion.

I was merely suggesting the cover-up was created because of the coming election. However, it could be that they created this fake story to hide their incompetence. Either way, Hillary is still claiming there was NO cover up.
 
2013-01-24 04:06:54 PM  

MeinRS6: zappaisfrank: MeinRS6: impaler: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

I haven't seen any of the hearings and I just came in here to find out what was going on. Can you be so kind as to point out her lie?

Thanks.

Where would you like to start? With cattle futures, the travel office, "vast right-wing conspiracy", or more recently "Assad is a reformer", "the US must go into Libya", "this was all about a video"?

I mean, the chick is a professional libby liar that has been at it for decades. You can't just say "point out her lie" without being specific about it. There are so many to choose from.

So, in other words...you got nothin'.

Thanks for clearing that up.

So, in other words, you have very poor reading comprehension.

Again, if you want to defend this sack of shiat, then go right ahead. I'm sure our dead in Libya would be really happy with your decision. Hell, you could just ignore the entire thing and do nothing, just like Obama did while our people were under attack. That would make you very presidential.


That would be all well and good...if you or, I don't know, ANYONE on your side of the aisle had expressed similar outrage ALL THE OTHER TIMES our diplomats abroad met with a tragic end. Except, you didn't. None of you Conservatives said one fuqing word when it happened while GWB was in charge. Not one of you. So, take your manufactured politically advantageous outrage and stick it up your self righteous ass. Mkay, Sparky?
 
2013-01-24 04:14:02 PM  

zappaisfrank: MeinRS6: zappaisfrank: MeinRS6: impaler: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

I haven't seen any of the hearings and I just came in here to find out what was going on. Can you be so kind as to point out her lie?

Thanks.

Where would you like to start? With cattle futures, the travel office, "vast right-wing conspiracy", or more recently "Assad is a reformer", "the US must go into Libya", "this was all about a video"?

I mean, the chick is a professional libby liar that has been at it for decades. You can't just say "point out her lie" without being specific about it. There are so many to choose from.

So, in other words...you got nothin'.

Thanks for clearing that up.

So, in other words, you have very poor reading comprehension.

Again, if you want to defend this sack of shiat, then go right ahead. I'm sure our dead in Libya would be really happy with your decision. Hell, you could just ignore the entire thing and do nothing, just like Obama did while our people were under attack. That would make you very presidential.

That would be all well and good...if you or, I don't know, ANYONE on your side of the aisle had expressed similar outrage ALL THE OTHER TIMES our diplomats abroad met with a tragic end. Except, you didn't. None of you Conservatives said one fuqing word when it happened while GWB was in charge. Not one of you. So, take your manufactured politically advantageous outrage and stick it up your self righteous ass. Mkay, Sparky?


You are so full of shiat. You can't deal with reality, so you post stuff like this.

You stick with your hero here -

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-24 04:19:37 PM  

MeinRS6: You stick with your hero here -


Yeah...post that again...that'll convince 'em
 
2013-01-24 04:19:42 PM  

MeinRS6: if you want to defend this sack of shiat,


I notice you couldn't point out her lies about Benghazi, yet your Lying Republican Scum arse wouldn't shut-up about how she is a liar. Project much, Lying Republican Scum?

Go make the world a better place and DIAF.
 
2013-01-24 04:20:50 PM  

OmarBradley: mrshowrules: Penetta corrected the protest stuff 6 weeks before the election sparky.

Sorry about the confusion.

I was merely suggesting the cover-up was created because of the coming election. However, it could be that they created this fake story to hide their incompetence. Either way, Hillary is still claiming there was NO cover up.


What cover-up?  There is no important aspect of this story that was covered-up at any point?

Obama called in an act of terror the day after the incident?

Who is incompetent?  Less competent than which Republican politician or appointee?  Just curious?
 
2013-01-24 04:24:48 PM  

MeinRS6: zappaisfrank: MeinRS6: zappaisfrank: MeinRS6: impaler: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

I haven't seen any of the hearings and I just came in here to find out what was going on. Can you be so kind as to point out her lie?

Thanks.

Where would you like to start? With cattle futures, the travel office, "vast right-wing conspiracy", or more recently "Assad is a reformer", "the US must go into Libya", "this was all about a video"?

I mean, the chick is a professional libby liar that has been at it for decades. You can't just say "point out her lie" without being specific about it. There are so many to choose from.

So, in other words...you got nothin'.

Thanks for clearing that up.

So, in other words, you have very poor reading comprehension.

Again, if you want to defend this sack of shiat, then go right ahead. I'm sure our dead in Libya would be really happy with your decision. Hell, you could just ignore the entire thing and do nothing, just like Obama did while our people were under attack. That would make you very presidential.

That would be all well and good...if you or, I don't know, ANYONE on your side of the aisle had expressed similar outrage ALL THE OTHER TIMES our diplomats abroad met with a tragic end. Except, you didn't. None of you Conservatives said one fuqing word when it happened while GWB was in charge. Not one of you. So, take your manufactured politically advantageous outrage and stick it up your self righteous ass. Mkay, Sparky?

You are so full of shiat. You can't deal with reality, so you post stuff like this.

You stick with your hero here -

[i.imgur.com image 550x367]


And you, sir, are another Rightwingistan drone who laps up the pablum the GOP marketing team feeds you like it's fuqing honey. You are so busy gurgling the Republican dick snot, you are totally oblivious to anything else.

I am not only right, I'm goddamned right, and no amount of cute little picture posting, denial, deflecting or any of your other horseshiat attempts to prove otherwise are going to work. You guys are trying your damnedest to make this into some big bombshell and outside your little bubble world, you are failing...mightily...you simply refuse to believe it, admit it or accept the reality of the situation.

This is a big, fat NOTHINGBURGER. Period. Your party is becoming more and more irrelevant with each passing day and bullshiat like this is helping it right along, you guys are just too stubborn to see it. The fact that everyone of you got caught flat footed at 11:30 on Election Eve proves your bubble of lies and bullshiat is nothing more than the bias confirmation of a small faction of "true believers" which are becoming more and more extinct as the days pass. When your party becomes the political equivalent of the dinosaurs, you'll continue to blame the Liberal Media, voter fraud, and bullshiat like this, rather than look in the mirror and see the REAL culprit in your party's demise.

Outside the right wing bubble, Hillary won, hands down. Accept it or don't, but THAT is the reality of the situation. That's the thing about reality...it's true whether you believe it or not.
 
2013-01-24 04:29:16 PM  

zappaisfrank: your bubble of lies and bullshiat is nothing more than the bias confirmation of a small faction of "true believers" which are becoming more and more extinct as the days pass. When your party becomes the political equivalent of the dinosaurs, you'll continue to blame the Liberal Media, voter fraud, and bullshiat like this, rather than look in the mirror and see the REAL culprit in your party's demise.


I might get this tattooed on my arse.
 
2013-01-24 04:35:51 PM  

MeinRS6: You can always count on a Clinton to be a top-notch liar.


Man, your really going to be upset in 2016 if she runs

You know why? Republicans have nothing. ziltch, nada, zip. The GOP ideology is so broken that cannot win even with the opponent who was as vulnerable as Obama was in 2012.

Just get used to the words now: President Hillary Clinton.
 
2013-01-24 05:06:29 PM  
One thing about these neocons, they have no shame. Here's a convicted felon who was wrong on just about every foreign policy from Iran Contra through the second Gulf war but he feels the world needs to heed his advice. Elliot Abrams, please STFU and go far away.
 
2013-01-24 05:14:41 PM  
The day after the event was... Sept 12th?

From an interview with CBS on Sept 12th:

Steve Kroft: Mr. President, this morning you went out of your way to avoid the use of the word terrorism in connection with the Libya Attack, do you believe that this was a terrorism attack?

OBAMA: Well it's too early to tell exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans. And we are going to be working with the Libyan government to make sure that we bring these folks to justice, one way or the other.


May 22: Two rocket-propelled grenades are fired at the Benghazi office of the International Committee of the Red Cross, less than 1 mile from the U.S. Consulate.

June 6: A large IED destroys part of the security perimeter of the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. Creates hole "big enough for 40 men to go through."

Yeah, so they had NO idea anything was possibly a threat going on in that neighborhood. I mean, they get like 1.4 million messages. Can't read 'em all.
Why bother with additional security?

Once people died, and they realized they screwed up, this administration tried to cover it up... like children.

Defending Clinton or Obama on this issue is like someone defending George W. Bush and his publicly stated reasons for the Iraq war.
 
2013-01-24 05:29:54 PM  

OmarBradley: Yeah, so they had NO idea anything was possibly a threat going on in that neighborhood. I mean, they get like 1.4 million messages. Can't read 'em all.
Why bother with additional security?


That's a good question and where the actual outrage should be. Of course the GOP is too stupid and decided to focus on trivial things like semantics anyways.

OmarBradley: Once people died, and they realized they screwed up, this administration tried to cover it up... like children.


They did? How did they do that exactly? I'd be interested in hearing from you about this.
 
2013-01-24 08:40:26 PM  

Rwa2play: dehehn: toomuchwhargarbl: red5ish: As long as the Republicans are basing their entire argument on speculation there is no way to answer their complaint.

So that's why Fox is heading into Alex Jones U.N. black helicopters and flouride conspiracy territory?

Heading into? They're there.

Dick Morris is now the Alex Jones of Fox News

Hannity and Morris discussing UN World Government

Dick Morris' new book "The Black Helicopters Are Coming!"

You mean the same Dick Morris that said "We're gonna win by a landslide." when referring to Romney's chances, only to be exposed as the farking clown he truly is?


Yes, but I'm sure he's right about the Black Helicopters. They're much more likely than a Romney landslide.
 
2013-01-24 09:00:01 PM  

ItchyMcDoogle: MeinRS6: You can always count on a Clinton to be a top-notch liar.

Man, your really going to be upset in 2016 if she runs

You know why? Republicans have nothing. ziltch, nada, zip. The GOP ideology is so broken that cannot win even with the opponent who was as vulnerable as Obama was in 2012.

Just get used to the words now: President Hillary Clinton.


Nope.  Not going to happen.  Despite the manufactured outrage from Milhouse, she went out of public service on a high note.  Maybe VP but she's not going to run for President again.
 
2013-01-24 09:02:55 PM  

MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.


Hillary IS a liar.
She is also a capable and competent world leader who's actions have benefited millions of people directly and indirectly.

This differentiates her from republicans, who are just liars.
 
2013-01-24 10:28:33 PM  

Without Fail: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

Hillary IS a liar.


You can say that again.

She is also a capable and competent world leader who's actions have benefited millions of people directly and indirectly.

Ok, now what in the hell are you talking about? She's the servant of our lord Obama and nothing more. World leader? Please. She's some chick that married a guy that became president and managed to parlay that into more because libs are farking retarded. And that's it.
 
2013-01-24 10:29:02 PM  
For MeinRS6

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-01-24 10:30:44 PM  
Wow. How unusual for when a lib has nothing to say that they bring up Bush. How rare and original. lulz
 
2013-01-24 10:35:33 PM  

MeinRS6: Ok, now what in the hell are you talking about? She's the servant of our lord Obama and nothing more.


Now what in the hell are you talking about?
 
2013-01-24 10:44:56 PM  

MeinRS6: Wow. How unusual for when a lib has nothing to say that they bring up Bush. How rare and original. lulz


So you're not challenging the veracity of the statement?

But this time it's different...because Obama
 
2013-01-24 10:49:29 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: MeinRS6: Wow. How unusual for when a lib has nothing to say that they bring up Bush. How rare and original. lulz

So you're not challenging the veracity of the statement?


I suppose that I could do some quick research and see how he is lying and how that's some stupid lib talking point that has little or no truth to it and in no way can be compared to what happened in Benghazi, but what's the point? I already know that zappa is a moron and believes untrue things. What else do I need to know of him?
 
2013-01-24 11:33:37 PM  
I wonder if they're going to sink $40 million into another investigation political witch hunt?
 
2013-01-24 11:40:36 PM  

zappaisfrank: For MeinRS6

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 700x504]


Republicans are allowed to bring up anything bad any Democrat has ever done since 1776 and we must all suffer collective guilt for it, but you're not allowed to bring up anything bad any Republican has ever done. This is for many reasons, not the least of which is, of course, that no Republican has ever actually done anything bad. Unless the bad, bad, very bad, ungood, mean poo-poo head Democrats and Goddamn Liberals forced them to.

Also, the GOP is the party of personal responsibility and maturity, because anyone who isn't responsible and mature must be a stupid 0bama dittohead lib. Only liberals resort to namecalling, after all.

And if you buy my book today, you too can learn the secrets of Doublethink, and simultaneously hold these and many other incoherent and/or mutually exclusive views simultaneously whenever they are convenient!
 
2013-01-25 05:07:41 AM  

mrshowrules: What person was ultimately responsible for the security of the Libyan diplomatic mission?


Some might question is being a diplomatic mission.

"Don't act so surprised, Your Highness. You weren't on any mercy mission this time. Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by Rebel spies. I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you?"
 
2013-01-25 08:50:31 AM  

MeinRS6: Wow. How unusual for when a lib has nothing to say that they bring up Bush. How rare and original. lulz


How unusual when a Conservatard refuses to hold his own people to the same standards he holds THEM LIBBRULS to, and then pusses out and runs away from the discussion when confronted with it. Not rare or original, just business as usual. See below...


erik-k: zappaisfrank: For MeinRS6

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 700x504]

Republicans are allowed to bring up anything bad any Democrat has ever done since 1776 and we must all suffer collective guilt for it, but you're not allowed to bring up anything bad any Republican has ever done. This is for many reasons, not the least of which is, of course, that no Republican has ever actually done anything bad. Unless the bad, bad, very bad, ungood, mean poo-poo head Democrats and Goddamn Liberals forced them to.

Also, the GOP is the party of personal responsibility and maturity, because anyone who isn't responsible and mature must be a stupid 0bama dittohead lib. Only liberals resort to namecalling, after all.

And if you buy my book today, you too can learn the secrets of Doublethink, and simultaneously hold these and many other incoherent and/or mutually exclusive views simultaneously whenever they are convenient!


Exactly.

Game, set and match. You lose, Meiny.
 
2013-01-25 08:58:50 AM  

MeinRS6: Lionel Mandrake: MeinRS6: Wow. How unusual for when a lib has nothing to say that they bring up Bush. How rare and original. lulz

So you're not challenging the veracity of the statement?

I suppose that I could do some quick research and see how he is lying and how that's some stupid lib talking point that has little or no truth to it and in no way can be compared to what happened in Benghazi, but what's the point? I already know that zappa is a moron and believes untrue things. What else do I need to know of him?


Go ahead, dipshiat...let's see some "research"...something that doesn't involve right wing blogs or Fox News. Come on, wimp...put up or shut up. You seem to think I believe "untrue" things simply because reality doesn't get into the right wing bubble much so it's no wonder it's upsetting to you and your first reaction is to reject it.

Come on...give it your best shot. Prove me wrong...I dare ya.
 
2013-01-25 12:40:35 PM  

Citrate1007: When a white Republican is in office it is unpatriotic to question his lack of evidence to going to war, terrorist attacks around the world, leaking information about CIA operatives, and an array of other things that fall under national security.

When a black Democrat is in office.....


I think at this point republicans have moved on to hating all democrats regardless of race or gender for continuing to use republicans own words to shame them repeatedly.
 
2013-01-25 04:27:11 PM  

MeinRS6: impaler: MeinRS6: You Farklibs are some touchy monkeys.

Pointing out that Hillary is a liar is like saying "the sun is hot". But whatever, you defend this garbage to the very end, for all the good that will do you.

I haven't seen any of the hearings and I just came in here to find out what was going on. Can you be so kind as to point out her lie?

Thanks.

Where would you like to start? With cattle futures, the travel office, "vast right-wing conspiracy", or more recently "Assad is a reformer", "the US must go into Libya", "this was all about a video"?

I mean, the chick is a professional libby liar that has been at it for decades. You can't just say "point out her lie" without being specific about it. There are so many to choose from.


Well with such a WIDE BERTH to choose from, surely you could point out THREE.
 
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