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2013-01-24 10:28:07 AM  
These people don't want straight answers. They want incriminating details, and they're going to make them up if they can't find any.

Switch future tense to past tense as needed.
 
2013-01-24 10:28:32 AM  
Ambassador Christopher Stevens could not be reached for comment.

That's in poor taste.
 
2013-01-24 10:29:58 AM  

mitchcumstein1: Ambassador Christopher Stevens could not be reached for comment.

That's in poor taste.


This whole farking thing is in poor taste.
 
2013-01-24 10:31:34 AM  

Bloody William: mitchcumstein1: Ambassador Christopher Stevens could not be reached for comment.

That's in poor taste.

This whole farking thing is in poor taste.


Yeah, I'm pretty hard to offend though, but that's pretty terrible.
 
2013-01-24 10:34:35 AM  
You are

/now STFU and find a real job
 
2013-01-24 10:34:40 AM  
People also wanted straight answers from the other embassy attacks during the Bush years, right?

Right?
 
2013-01-24 10:34:55 AM  
An entire day of grilling Hillary Clinton about the incident, fielding question after question, and the Republicans doing their best to humiliate and destroy both her AND her boss while looking desperately for something - ANYTHING - they could use against the administration...and failing in every conceivable way to get that one statement, that ONE soundbyte that would destroy Obama completely.  that had to suck for the GOP.

*sigh*

ok, short answer then: Hillary DID give you straight answers.  you just didn't like 'em very much.
 
2013-01-24 10:35:09 AM  

Bloody William: mitchcumstein1: Ambassador Christopher Stevens could not be reached for comment.

That's in poor taste.

This whole farking thing is in poor taste.


What?  You think he would object to having his corpse dragged around endlessly to score cheap political points or something?
 
2013-01-24 10:37:28 AM  
While I think the whole Benghazi debacle is the president's fault yada yada yada - the election is over.  Obama is president and he survived the bad publicity of a terrorist attack just 60 days from the election.  Republicans need to get over it and move on.  At this point everybody has gotten the piont - it's likely future administrations republican or democrat will never let what happened in Benghazi happen again.  Unfortunately the lesson was taught by political fallout instead of the loss of American lives.

Obama out manuevered the republicans on this one and it's time they take their medicine and learn from their mistakes.  Obama - 1 Republicans - 0  game set match.
 
2013-01-24 10:37:41 AM  

Weaver95: An entire day of grilling Hillary Clinton about the incident, fielding question after question, and the Republicans doing their best to humiliate and destroy both her AND her boss while looking desperately for something - ANYTHING - they could use against the administration...and failing in every conceivable way to get that one statement, that ONE soundbyte that would destroy Obama completely.  that had to suck for the GOP.

*sigh*

ok, short answer then: Hillary DID give you straight answers.  you just didn't like 'em very much.


And they still aren't satisfied.
 
2013-01-24 10:37:52 AM  
I believe I have all the answers I need.  The pooch was screwed, and a review of embassy security is certainly in order.  I'm quite prepared to accept that and move on.
 
2013-01-24 10:38:44 AM  

bradkanus: While I think the whole Benghazi debacle is the president's fault yada yada yada - the election is over.  Obama is president and he survived the bad publicity of a terrorist attack just 60 days from the election.  Republicans need to get over it and move on.  At this point everybody has gotten the piont - it's likely future administrations republican or democrat will never let what happened in Benghazi happen again.  Unfortunately the lesson was taught by political fallout instead of the loss of American lives.

Obama out manuevered the republicans on this one and it's time they take their medicine and learn from their mistakes.  Obama - 1 Republicans - 0  game set match.


At least you admit this is nothing but political gamesmanship as opposed to any actual policy failure.
 
2013-01-24 10:39:36 AM  
bradkanus:
Obama out manuevered the republicans on this one and it's time they take their medicine and learn from their mistakes.  Obama - 1 Republicans - 0  game set match.

well, that and the fact that there really wasn't anything of substance to these allegations certainly helped quite a bit.  I can't even tell what it is the GOP is mad about anymore.  I just know they're pissed off and it had something to do with benghazi.
 
2013-01-24 10:41:40 AM  
Because if you're still screaming about Benghazi, you're going to be satisfied with any answer from the WH short of the President impeaching himself for being black.
 
2013-01-24 10:42:00 AM  
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2013-01-24 10:43:02 AM  
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2013-01-24 10:46:26 AM  

mitchcumstein1: Ambassador Christopher Stevens could not be reached for comment.

That's in poor taste.


Just shows me they're not serious and not interested in the real issues embodied by the event.  They just want to embarrass the administration.  They don't give a fark about the security of our citizens serving abroad.
 
2013-01-24 10:46:40 AM  

bradkanus:  Obama is president and he survived the bad publicity of a terrorist attack just 60 days from the election.


A terrorist attack should never be considered 'bad publicity'. It is not something you simply attack the other side for. It's not like a political gaffe, or a bad policy that is defeated in the legislature. It is a horrendous attack on civilians that may (or in this case did) cause death. You don't attack a political opponent on that and then smile as you walk away front the podium. You just say 'never again' and figure out how to prevent it in the future

Imagine the reaction if the democrats had attack George Bush after 9/11
 
2013-01-24 10:48:08 AM  
gilgigamesh:
And they still aren't satisfied.

They never will be either.  the GOP was hoping to crack Hillary, and find something they could use against Obama.  But the only thing she gave 'em was a couple soundbytes (and not very good ones at that).  In the end, they had to settle for merely raking Hillary over the coals and insulting her in public.  they had their show and it didn't give 'em what they needed.  I suppose they could try to call everyone back and do it again but that would make it TOO obvious that they're more interested in an inquisition than they are in finding any answers.  thing is - they've already GOT all the facts.  Republicans just don't like what those facts are telling 'em.
 
2013-01-24 10:49:27 AM  
Jay Carney: [This is] "an obvious political obsession over a series of talking points that again bears no relevance on the central issues"
Translation: "We're incompetent and we've done nothing but lie about it, everybody knows it, and we have no excuse for it. So we'd really like you to shut up now."


That translation could be used for basically any sentence and have more in common with the original statement than it does with what Jay Carney says.
 
2013-01-24 10:52:17 AM  
Well, that's the last time I click on a link to the Daily Caller.  I was under the impression that submissions to Fark were vetted by someone.

Absolutely disgusting.
 
2013-01-24 10:52:28 AM  

Weaver95: gilgigamesh:
And they still aren't satisfied.

They never will be either.  the GOP was hoping to crack Hillary, and find something they could use against Obama.  But the only thing she gave 'em was a couple soundbytes (and not very good ones at that).  In the end, they had to settle for merely raking Hillary over the coals and insulting her in public.  they had their show and it didn't give 'em what they needed.  I suppose they could try to call everyone back and do it again but that would make it TOO obvious that they're more interested in an inquisition than they are in finding any answers.  thing is - they've already GOT all the facts.  Republicans just don't like what those facts are telling 'em.


Those soundbyets aren't worth it, either. My dad is not a fan of the Clintons and he had nothing but praise for her handling of the hearing.
 
2013-01-24 10:52:47 AM  

Weaver95: thing is - they've already GOT all the facts.  Republicans just don't like what those facts are telling 'em.


They have had all the facts for some time. Best I can tell, the absolute WORST thing they could possibly try to force here was that the administration was either wrong or lying about that film having anything to do with it. As far as scandals go, this is total and unmitigated weaksauce. Wake me when they find his Kenyan birth certificate or something.
 
2013-01-24 10:54:47 AM  

Diogenes: mitchcumstein1: Ambassador Christopher Stevens could not be reached for comment.

That's in poor taste.

Just shows me they're not serious and not interested in the real issues embodied by the event.  They just want to embarrass the administration.  They don't give a fark about the security of our citizens serving abroad.


Was there ever any doubt?
 
2013-01-24 10:55:36 AM  

MarshHawk: Well, that's the last time I click on a link to the Daily Caller.  I was under the impression that submissions to Fark were vetted by someone.

Absolutely disgusting.


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2013-01-24 10:55:40 AM  

Weaver95: bradkanus:
Obama out manuevered the republicans on this one and it's time they take their medicine and learn from their mistakes.  Obama - 1 Republicans - 0  game set match.

well, that and the fact that there really wasn't anything of substance to these allegations certainly helped quite a bit.  I can't even tell what it is the GOP is mad about anymore.  I just know they're pissed off and it had something to do with benghazi.


They (republicans) are mad because they figured out too late that the President's PR team did a hell of a job covering up an ugly event that could have (in their mind - not mine, so don't attack me) swayed the electorate to Romney.   We now know that there was a diliberate attempt by the white house to make the exact details around what happened murky.  Is it a crime? Nope.  Does it really matter if there was a protest over some movie or no protest at all or if they were mad about Justin Beiber's latest album? Nope.  What mattered to the administration before November 6th was that they didn't get blamed for four American's dying.  That's all.  Either party would have had the same goal to protect their candidate.

It's politics. It's shiatty.  My Republicans are being stupid about it and it's not going to be good for their image in the long run.  People will tire of hearing about it and decide republicans remind them of their nagging wives who never let anything go.  I'm completely willing to fault my party with how they have gone about prosecuting this "scandal."
 
2013-01-24 10:57:43 AM  

nekom: I believe I have all the answers I need.  The pooch was screwed, and a review of embassy security is certainly in order.  I'm quite prepared to accept that and move on.


too bad the GOP is more worried about screwing chickens.
 
2013-01-24 11:09:57 AM  

Diogenes: mitchcumstein1: Ambassador Christopher Stevens could not be reached for comment.

That's in poor taste.

Just shows me they're not serious and not interested in the real issues embodied by the event.  They just want to embarrass the administration.  They don't give a fark about the security of our citizens serving abroad.


Did you ever for a second think they were?
 
2013-01-24 11:10:41 AM  
If you want any answers to questions that deal with what / when the government knew about it being an actual attack vs. it being part of a protest...yeah, you're just trolling for bullshiat to smear Obama with.

Examples of legitimate questions:

1) Did the State Department issue an order to the ambassador to stay at the embassy on 9/11? If not, why didn't they?
2) If they did issue that order, why was the ambassador at the consulate instead?
 
2013-01-24 11:11:30 AM  

mitchcumstein1: Ambassador Christopher Stevens could not be reached for comment.

That's in poor taste.


It is vulgar plus the photo is unrelated.
 
2013-01-24 11:12:07 AM  

bradkanus: They (republicans) are mad because they figured out too late that the President's PR team did a hell of a job covering up an ugly event that could have (in their mind - not mine, so don't attack me) swayed the electorate to Romney.


I think it's fair to attack you for assuming it's a cover-up. What was covered up? How? Why?

It's much more likely that the attack was a clusterfark happening at a time when several other embassies and consulates were under attack by protesters, and they 1: weren't certain of all the details immediately and 2: weren't prepared to release all those details as soon as they were certain for legitimate security reasons.

I've seen coverups before. This doesn't smell like one.
 
2013-01-24 11:12:45 AM  

gilgigamesh: Bloody William: mitchcumstein1: Ambassador Christopher Stevens could not be reached for comment.

That's in poor taste.

This whole farking thing is in poor taste.

What?  You think he would object to having his corpse dragged around endlessly to score cheap political points or something?


Hasn't that photo been debunked?
 
2013-01-24 11:12:54 AM  

bradkanus: Weaver95: bradkanus:
Obama out manuevered the republicans on this one and it's time they take their medicine and learn from their mistakes.  Obama - 1 Republicans - 0  game set match.

well, that and the fact that there really wasn't anything of substance to these allegations certainly helped quite a bit.  I can't even tell what it is the GOP is mad about anymore.  I just know they're pissed off and it had something to do with benghazi.

They (republicans) are mad because they figured out too late that the President's PR team did a hell of a job covering up an ugly event that could have (in their mind - not mine, so don't attack me) swayed the electorate to Romney.   We now know that there was a diliberate attempt by the white house to make the exact details around what happened murky.  Is it a crime? Nope.  Does it really matter if there was a protest over some movie or no protest at all or if they were mad about Justin Beiber's latest album? Nope.  What mattered to the administration before November 6th was that they didn't get blamed for four American's dying.  That's all.  Either party would have had the same goal to protect their candidate.

It's politics. It's shiatty.  My Republicans are being stupid about it and it's not going to be good for their image in the long run.  People will tire of hearing about it and decide republicans remind them of their nagging wives who never let anything go.  I'm completely willing to fault my party with how they have gone about prosecuting this "scandal."


But I think they were deliberately being murky because they were still working on the back end of getting the people responsible and the last thing they needed to do was show their hand on CNN.

Republicans keep looking for their cigar. There isn't one. Not at all.
 
2013-01-24 11:13:16 AM  

Weaver95: Hillary DID give you straight answers. you just didn't like 'em very much.


BINGO!
 
2013-01-24 11:14:06 AM  
Boy, this is really gonna hurt Obama in the next presidential election.
 
2013-01-24 11:15:55 AM  

MarshHawk: Well, that's the last time I click on a link to the Daily Caller.  I was under the impression that submissions to Fark were vetted by someone.

Absolutely disgusting.


They are vetted.  They're vetted to ensure hilarity, tragedy, trollishness, and overall ludicrosity.  It's not news, it's Fark.
 
2013-01-24 11:16:37 AM  

mrshowrules: It is vulgar plus the photo is unrelated.


It's unrelated?  Isn't it Ambassador Stevens?
 
2013-01-24 11:17:00 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Boy, this is really gonna hurt Obama in the next presidential election.


I sure's hell ain't votin' fer 'im again
 
2013-01-24 11:17:09 AM  
What's really funny is realizing that there were elected GOP Congressmen and women who honestly thought their derp was going to be SO devastating as to make Hilary Clinton -- a former U.S. Senator, presidential candidate and First Lady and the current Secretary of State who's been through the wringer like few Americans in our history -- suddenly shriek:

"You're right! You were all right! I have a videotaped confession from President Obama demanding the immediate destruction of America so his Kenyan Socialist Muslim masters can outlaw religion while imposing Sharia Law and make the ownership of Lee Greenwood cassettes punishable by hummusboarding! Damn you, Blogger-Patriots! Damn you and your shoddily printed Gadsden Flag stickers on the backs of your aging F-150s! You ruined it all!"
 
2013-01-24 11:17:55 AM  
Benghazijuice.

Benghazijuice.

BENGHAZIJUICE!
 
2013-01-24 11:18:23 AM  

Bloody William: bradkanus: They (republicans) are mad because they figured out too late that the President's PR team did a hell of a job covering up an ugly event that could have (in their mind - not mine, so don't attack me) swayed the electorate to Romney.

I think it's fair to attack you for assuming it's a cover-up. What was covered up? How? Why?

It's much more likely that the attack was a clusterfark happening at a time when several other embassies and consulates were under attack by protesters, and they 1: weren't certain of all the details immediately and 2: weren't prepared to release all those details as soon as they were certain for legitimate security reasons.

I've seen coverups before. This doesn't smell like one.


the scandal is that they sent Rice out there to tell what they knew was a lie in order to deflect the truth - they weren't prepared (for whatever reason).  The republican attacks on Clinton/Obama yesterday had two goals -

1. establish what they knew and when they knew it so they can confirm that Rice lied on TV (she did, nobody is denying that now - it's what you do for your president no matter what party you belong to).

2. establish some kind of timeline of failure for the protection of diplomatic assets.  The republicans could not achieve this goal because it comes back to lack of funding that they were partly to blame for.

I think it would be unwise of you to pick a fight over something that has been settled and is now a dead horse receiving a public beating.
 
2013-01-24 11:18:31 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Boy, this is really gonna hurt Obama in the next presidential election.


nah, I think he's got it in the bag for sure next time 'round.
 
2013-01-24 11:19:44 AM  

ManateeGag:
too bad the GOP is more worried about screwing chickens.


It really is. As the party controlling the house, they SHOULD be presenting an alternate course for the nation. They SHOULD be criticizing the President on specific policy while pointing out why their view is superior. You know, engaging in spirited debate and all that.

Instead they are, well the only word I can use to describe what they are doing is simply ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
 
2013-01-24 11:19:48 AM  

bradkanus: I'm completely willing to fault my party with how they have gone about prosecuting this "scandal."


What does it take for you to realize they're not your party?

The Republican party is over. You don't have to go Dem, but you can't stay here.
 
2013-01-24 11:20:16 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: What's really funny is realizing that there were elected GOP Congressmen and women who honestly thought their derp was going to be SO devastating as to make Hilary Clinton -- a former U.S. Senator, presidential candidate and First Lady and the current Secretary of State who's been through the wringer like few Americans in our history -- suddenly shriek:

"You're right! You were all right! I have a videotaped confession from President Obama demanding the immediate destruction of America so his Kenyan Socialist Muslim masters can outlaw religion while imposing Sharia Law and make the ownership of Lee Greenwood cassettes punishable by hummusboarding! Damn you, Blogger-Patriots! Damn you and your shoddily printed Gadsden Flag stickers on the backs of your aging F-150s! You ruined it all!"


at more than one point in the interrogation of Hillary, I got the distinct feeling that the GOP torturers were whispering to themselves 'OMG - she's not following The Script! she's...she's TALKING BACK!'
 
2013-01-24 11:20:34 AM  

Weaver95: CruiserTwelve: Boy, this is really gonna hurt Obama in the next presidential election.

nah, I think he's got it in the bag for sure next time 'round.


I was reading comments on facecrack and they are POSITIVE he is gong to try for a third term, to abolish the law. I think that they are nuts, but nope, they are on the low end of the bell curve.
 
2013-01-24 11:22:07 AM  
Fun Fact: If you can trick a conservative in to saying Benghazi backwards, they become a liberal atheist who instantly becomes gay married to the nearest turtle or duck.
 
2013-01-24 11:22:12 AM  

silo123j: Weaver95: CruiserTwelve: Boy, this is really gonna hurt Obama in the next presidential election.

nah, I think he's got it in the bag for sure next time 'round.

I was reading comments on facecrack and they are POSITIVE he is gong to try for a third term, to abolish the law. I think that they are nuts, but nope, they are on the low end of the bell curve.


And the best part?  Limbaugh and the GOP pundits are calling the Democrats the party of 'low information voters'.  so remember, if you voted anything OTHER than for Romney, YOU are a low information voter and should feel bad.
 
2013-01-24 11:26:37 AM  

silo123j: Weaver95: CruiserTwelve: Boy, this is really gonna hurt Obama in the next presidential election.

nah, I think he's got it in the bag for sure next time 'round.

I was reading comments on facecrack and they are POSITIVE he is gong to try for a third term, to abolish the law. I think that they are nuts, but nope, they are on the low end of the bell curve.


On FreeRepublic, it's fairly common for someone to follow a discussion about candidates for 2016 with "if there even IS an election in 2016" or "Obama declaring Marshall Law notwithstanding"
 
2013-01-24 11:27:07 AM  
Things that definitely aren't political obsessions: Binders full of women, Big Bird, "I can see Russia from my house," Palin's wardrobe budget, Valerie Plame, James O'Keefe's misdemeanor, Andrew Breitbart's cellphone having a picture that Anthony Weiner tweeted, and far too many more examples to list in a day.

Andrew Breitbart could not be reached for comment.

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

Sorry I couldn't find a picture of his lifeless corpse, but I'll make a mental note that showing such pictures is acceptable
 
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