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2013-01-24 09:55:37 AM
I agree. When did it become okay to be a pig? It's unattractive and unhealthy.
 
2013-01-24 09:56:21 AM

Queensowntalia: If weight issues are linked with mental issues, adding psychological attacks is only going to make the problem worse. I have struggled with both depression and my weight for years, and articles like these, and the resulting Fark "all fat people should go kill themselves" threads haven't motivated me to exercise, they've made me want to hurt myself and/or drink myself into a stupor. It's hard enough for me to leave the house to begin with. Please don't make it even harder.


So you are an average Farker?

What would you like, people to give you free pizza and say "well done!"? Sorry to sound harsh, but if you have the money to buy booze and eat so much and not leave the house, you have the money to go to a gym, hire a personal trainer and a shrink. I am reminded of the Simpsons's episode where Homer was in therapy like One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest.
 
2013-01-24 09:56:36 AM

Thunderpipes: WTF Indeed: Make being fat cost prohibitive. If the fatty wants healthcare he'll need to spend three times as much. If the fatty wants that extra large bucket of fried chicken it'll be $40. Simple economics. No shaming required.

We should.

We make being successful cost prohibitive, being male, being white, why not fat? They pay more for life insurance, why not health insurance?

Maybe you dems can make universal life insurance the next big thing? That would be a hoot.


Well, lookee who's all up in a fatty thread with his politics derp this morning.
 
2013-01-24 09:56:42 AM

hbk72777: "If you are overweight or obese, are you pleased with the way that you look?"


This is great, let's line the streets with posters demeaning everyone

"If you are black or dark brown, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are Jewish or have a big honker, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are in a wheelchair or missing legs, are you pleased with the way that you look?"


"One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?"
 
2013-01-24 09:57:07 AM
I prefer my fatties corn-fed.
 
2013-01-24 09:57:31 AM
People should stop being so sensitive. The guy actually said he wanted to sham fatties. Just think how comfortable they would be on your bed.

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2013-01-24 09:58:04 AM
Coddling and acceptance isn't what motivated me to lose 80 pounds. Ridicule did. Oh and I didn't want to be diabetic. There's that too, but mostly it was the ridicule.
 
2013-01-24 09:58:24 AM

xanadian: WTF Indeed: Make being fat cost prohibitive. If the fatty wants healthcare he'll need to spend three times as much. If the fatty wants that extra large bucket of fried chicken it'll be $40. Simple economics. No shaming required.

It works for cigarette smoking...


Not sure if serious.
The only people I know who buy cigarettes are the ones that can't afford it.
 
2013-01-24 09:58:39 AM
I too loved the line about "free range fat people."
 
2013-01-24 09:58:58 AM

MikeBoomshadow: Carth: The Angry Hand of God: I assume it is also OK to punch an asshole in the face for not minding their own damn business, correct?

Sure, but since obesity adds around 190 billion a year to health care costs making sure fat people lose weight is everyone's business.

And how much does depression and other psychological disorders add?

Plus, when this guy inevitably runs across a fat person he shouldn't have bullied, how much does reconstructive orthodontic surgery add?

/we fatties can throw a punch
//usually only one
///already feeling a bit winded
////virgules


Far less. Depression costs are less than 90 billion. Yes, some obesity is linked to mental illness but far more often it is people don't know how to eat healthy or just don't want to exercise.
 
2013-01-24 09:59:04 AM

DuncanMhor: radiumsoup: it's largely worked for smoking, didn't it?

/taxing helped, but not very much.

No. Education, heavy taxes making them prohibitively expensive and banning the farking things almost everywhere worked for smoking.

This prick wants a moral justification for being a coont "its for their own good"

A stranger makes any "shaming" comments about my appearance uninvited will get a smack in the farking face, assuming I can catch the cowardly little fark.


"Banning them everywhere"... where do you think that came from, exactly? You're talking about social stigmas... in other words, society telling smokers that they're bad for lighting up in public. That's a very passive-aggressive way of shaming people into changing their behavior. Same for taxes (as much as they had an effect, which I still counter is less than what most people believe, especially those who never smoked.) You can't pass a tax that aims to change social behavior without broad public support for the social engineering aspect. Hell, for further evidence, you can't have a smoking thread on Fark without a dozen stories about how horrible people treat smokers for lighting up in public. At its core, it's a social shaming ritual, and it's more effective than anything else at getting kids to *never* smoke in the first place. All the old smokers die out, and the rest are shamed into thinking it's such a bad practice that they never start to begin with - that seems to be the goal, anyway.

This is not an observation on the fellow in the article, and I could care less about him. I'm observing that the underlying idea that social stigmas have an enormous impact on behavior is indeed very accurate.
 
2013-01-24 09:59:14 AM

Thunderpipes: WTF Indeed: Make being fat cost prohibitive. If the fatty wants healthcare he'll need to spend three times as much. If the fatty wants that extra large bucket of fried chicken it'll be $40. Simple economics. No shaming required.

We should.

We make being successful cost prohibitive, being male, being white, why not fat? They pay more for life insurance, why not health insurance?

Maybe you dems can make universal life insurance the next big thing? That would be a hoot.


Speaking as a white male, how has my ethnicity become more cost prohibitive? The fact is, I'm actually a fair amount better off than I was four years ago, and can easily see improved earning potential in my field over the next four--and that's after taxes.
 
2013-01-24 10:00:07 AM

WhippingBoy: hbk72777: "If you are overweight or obese, are you pleased with the way that you look?"


This is great, let's line the streets with posters demeaning everyone

"If you are black or dark brown, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are Jewish or have a big honker, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are in a wheelchair or missing legs, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?"


So every morbidly obese person has zero control over that state?

I'm perfectly ok with those with confirmable disorders that lead to obesity being recognized as such, but in the absence of such a disorder, I don't see a problem with expecting the individual to be held accountable.
 
2013-01-24 10:00:20 AM

Vodka Zombie: Haven't we been shaming fat people for decades already?


I think once you reach a certain level of fat, you become invulnerable.

If you find yourself feeling entitled to a free scooter in every building you go to and are willing to take disability benefits for being fat, shame is an odd concept in your world.
 
2013-01-24 10:02:00 AM

ph0rk: WhippingBoy: hbk72777: "If you are overweight or obese, are you pleased with the way that you look?"


This is great, let's line the streets with posters demeaning everyone

"If you are black or dark brown, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are Jewish or have a big honker, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are in a wheelchair or missing legs, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?"

So every morbidly obese person has zero control over that state?

I'm perfectly ok with those with confirmable disorders that lead to obesity being recognized as such, but in the absence of such a disorder, I don't see a problem with expecting the individual to be held accountable.


Yes, that was my point. You have no control of being jewish or black or missing your legs, but you do have control over your own body (in the fast majority of cases). Comparing a morbidly obese person to a black person is intellectually dishonest.
 
2013-01-24 10:02:24 AM
Like fat people are capable of having feelings.   I'm not sure that they even qualify to be called people.
 
2013-01-24 10:02:35 AM
I said years ago to quit acting like they have a disease, they gave them all kinds of excuses for being fat when the reason was you are just lazy.
 
2013-01-24 10:03:35 AM

abhorrent1: I agree. When did it become okay to be a pig? It's unattractive and unhealthy.


The same instant it became okay to be an assclown and be mean to people because you don't like how they look.

I'd rather hang with my fat buddies than with a jerk like you. Admittedly, some of them make me look thinner by comparison, but still.

Tell you what: I'll eat a salad. You eat a bag of dicks.
 
2013-01-24 10:04:04 AM

MikeBoomshadow: Speaking as a white male, how has my ethnicity become more cost prohibitive? The fact is, I'm actually a fair amount better off than I was four years ago, and can easily see improved earning potential in my field over the next four--and that's after taxes.


You and I were a de facto, off-the-books protected class with special privileges.
 
2013-01-24 10:04:37 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Vodka Zombie: Haven't we been shaming fat people for decades already?

I think once you reach a certain level of fat, you become invulnerable.

If you find yourself feeling entitled to a free scooter in every building you go to and are willing to take disability benefits for being fat, shame is an odd concept in your world.


You are needed in the thread above this one.
 
2013-01-24 10:04:43 AM

WhippingBoy: ph0rk: WhippingBoy: hbk72777: "If you are overweight or obese, are you pleased with the way that you look?"


This is great, let's line the streets with posters demeaning everyone

"If you are black or dark brown, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are Jewish or have a big honker, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are in a wheelchair or missing legs, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?"

So every morbidly obese person has zero control over that state?

I'm perfectly ok with those with confirmable disorders that lead to obesity being recognized as such, but in the absence of such a disorder, I don't see a problem with expecting the individual to be held accountable.

Yes, that was my point. You have no control of being jewish or black or missing your legs, but you do have control over your own body (in the fast majority of cases). Comparing a morbidly obese person to a black person is intellectually dishonest.


By that same token, the dude (or dudette) in the wheelchair might be there because of their own stupidity, too.
 
2013-01-24 10:05:02 AM

MikeBoomshadow: Thunderpipes: WTF Indeed: Make being fat cost prohibitive. If the fatty wants healthcare he'll need to spend three times as much. If the fatty wants that extra large bucket of fried chicken it'll be $40. Simple economics. No shaming required.

We should.

We make being successful cost prohibitive, being male, being white, why not fat? They pay more for life insurance, why not health insurance?

Maybe you dems can make universal life insurance the next big thing? That would be a hoot.

Speaking as a white male, how has my ethnicity become more cost prohibitive? The fact is, I'm actually a fair amount better off than I was four years ago, and can easily see improved earning potential in my field over the next four--and that's after taxes.


UIh huh, sure. How was your White only scholarship or your affirmative action promotion?

Want to see the real fun? In 2040 or so, when white people are the minority, do you really think Democrats will be there defending the white man? Slavery will probably be made legal again. Your kids will suffer, but you don't care, because free stuff! Yay!
 
2013-01-24 10:05:55 AM

Carth: The Angry Hand of God: I assume it is also OK to punch an asshole in the face for not minding their own damn business, correct?

Sure, but since obesity adds around 190 billion a year to health care costs making sure fat people lose weight is everyone's business.


just not true.

if you live a healthier life, you are gona live longer, and still die of some kind of cancer, so actualy costing more.
In the long run, the fatties and the smockers cost less as the average, because they die younger.
Idealy, just around retirement age.
 
2013-01-24 10:06:08 AM
I'm a big fat guy. Shame doesn't do it. I know.
I already feel ashamed that I have to ask for a seatbelt extender on a flight.
I already feel ashamed that I can't run around with my kids in the yard for more than 3 seconds without getting exhausted.
I already feel ashamed that I take up more than one seat on the subway.
I already feel ashamed that I can't walk more than a couple of blocks without my back screaming "What the fark are you doing to me?"
I already feel ashamed that I can't walk into any clothing store and expect that they'll have something that will fit.

Smoking vs. Obesity: You don't have to smoke, you do have to eat. Declining rates for smoking are primarily due to keeping them away from kids until they're old enough to know better. Just like with smoking though, someone has to want to quit. If they don't want to quit, no amount of shame will improve the situation.

Which is why I don't think kids should be involved in religion until they're old enough to know better.
 
2013-01-24 10:06:14 AM

Thunderpipes: Want to see the real fun? In 2040 or so, when white people are the minority, do you really think Democrats will be there defending the white man? Slavery will probably be made legal again. Your kids will suffer, but you don't care, because free stuff! Yay!


What color is your motley?
 
2013-01-24 10:06:30 AM
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

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2013-01-24 10:06:40 AM

WhippingBoy: ph0rk: WhippingBoy: hbk72777: "If you are overweight or obese, are you pleased with the way that you look?"


This is great, let's line the streets with posters demeaning everyone

"If you are black or dark brown, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are Jewish or have a big honker, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are in a wheelchair or missing legs, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?"

So every morbidly obese person has zero control over that state?

I'm perfectly ok with those with confirmable disorders that lead to obesity being recognized as such, but in the absence of such a disorder, I don't see a problem with expecting the individual to be held accountable.

Yes, that was my point. You have no control of being jewish or black or missing your legs, but you do have control over your own body (in the fast majority of cases). Comparing a morbidly obese person to a black person is intellectually dishonest.


So is assuming that every person you consider fat has complete control over their appearance, to say nothing of assuming you have any justification in making them feel bad about their appearance. And if doing so actually improves your mood--or self-esteem--then you just plain suck.
 
2013-01-24 10:06:47 AM

ph0rk: So every morbidly obese person has zero control over that state?


They are being force-fed by the government. And I hate to tell you this, but...

Soylent Pâté is people!
 
2013-01-24 10:07:04 AM
I have friends that are obese. Also obesity runs (walks) in my family. It really makes no difference to me. If you are comfortable with how you look and are fairly healthy then fine.

What annoys me are the people that themselves bring up their weight and proceed to make excuses. No you cannot only eat a can of tuna and an apple a day and be that heavy. No you are not big boned. No you are not a size 12.

I don't care about your weight but don't bring it up, then bs me and not expect me to call you on it because it is politically correct.
 
2013-01-24 10:07:28 AM

Thunderpipes: UIh huh, sure. How was your White only scholarship or your affirmative action promotion?

Want to see the real fun? In 2040 or so, when white people are the minority, do you really think Democrats will be there defending the white man? Slavery will probably be made legal again. Your kids will suffer, but you don't care, because free stuff! Yay!


The only thing worse than a fat guy is a honky. Well maybe a fat honky. You sound like a fay honky. Honky.
 
2013-01-24 10:08:13 AM

On-Off: Carth: The Angry Hand of God: I assume it is also OK to punch an asshole in the face for not minding their own damn business, correct?

Sure, but since obesity adds around 190 billion a year to health care costs making sure fat people lose weight is everyone's business.

just not true.

if you live a healthier life, you are gona live longer, and still die of some kind of cancer, so actualy costing more.
In the long run, the fatties and the smockers cost less as the average, because they die younger.
Idealy, just around retirement age.


"Obesity Now Costs Americans More In HealthCare Spending Than Smoking"
 
2013-01-24 10:08:19 AM
www.buddhajeans.com

Looozer...lose some weight fatty.
 
2013-01-24 10:08:20 AM
I love fattie threads. I suspect that, much like GOP homophobes, the folks who scream the loudest are in fact the fattest. Especially when they start making claims about their height, weight, or how long they have until they gotta be at the gym.

/betting the obesity rate among Fark users is higher than the national average
 
2013-01-24 10:08:57 AM
FTA: "If you are overweight or obese, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

I'll assume the "proper" answer to this round of Begging the Question is an unqualified "no". I don't mention this because I necessarily disagree with the answer. In fact, I rather agree with this answer- I haven't met any overweight people who are happy with their appearance. They're quick to admit this usually, and have no issue with being honest about this.

The reason I'm bothering to mention this rather obvious point is because, as I've always known- when it comes to criticism- you are your own worst enemy. Not just because you know yourself best, but because- in all honesty- your own thoughts about yourself are the only ones you tend to take very seriously.

And yet many of these people are still fat.

Now it's my turn to Beg the Question: So what- if anything- does shame from outside sources add in terms of value to that individual- in terms of getting them to change?

If you said "nothing", you win not only the washer and dryer, but... A NEW CAR!


In all seriousness, change comes from the individual. It ALWAYS comes from the individual. Ever tried to explain to a buddy that the girl he's dating is very obviously not treating him well and he should perhaps consider other prospects? Ever gotten him to act solely based on your advice? Do the number of times this actually works seem to be the exception rather than the rule?

I can tell you though what society shaming a person like that is almost certain to result in though: generalized anxiety and, eventually, depression.

Know what a lot of people do when depressed? Yeah, they eat- usually too much.

Brilliant plan there, Doctor Schadenfreude.
 
2013-01-24 10:09:11 AM

MikeBoomshadow: So is assuming that every person you consider fat has complete control over their appearance, to say nothing of assuming you have any justification in making them feel bad about their appearance. And if doing so actually improves your mood--or self-esteem--then you just plain suck.


I refuse to believe that nearly a quarter of US Americans are obese beyond their own control.

I don't give a fark what they think their justification is, and no, I'm not going to get in their face about it. I will however happily sit back and judge the fark out of them for what appears to be the result of their own bad choices. fark em if they can't deal with it.
 
2013-01-24 10:09:24 AM
I battled with weight issues for most of my life. When I was 32, I lost 100 pounds over the course of a year and a half.

You know what finally motivated me to lose the weight? I was in a restaurant with some friends and passed by a couple of attractive women. One of them looked me in the eye, looked down at my body, and said "eww, gross". That triggered something inside me; I was tired of being summarily rejected and shamed. Within a year and a half, I was 100 pounds lighter and no longer felt ashamed to be out in public.

So don't tell me that fat shaming doesn't work. It may not be the solution for everyone, but it certainly changed my life.
 
2013-01-24 10:09:30 AM

alephtau: Wrong target. The people who should be shamed are the greedy farks who rake in monstrous amounts of dollars by selling unhealthy addictive feed to their herds of indentured custommers.
But you would have to destroy the "capitalist" neofeudal structure of power in murika to do that, so won't happen


So instead of blaming the fat farks who eat it you blame those who make it but then this is the era when personal responsibility is out the window.

"Oh I wouldn't be a 300lb behemoth if those evil companies hadn't forced their products down my throat"

God you people are stupid.
 
2013-01-24 10:09:37 AM

On-Off: if you live a healthier life, you are gona live longer, and still die of some kind of cancer, so actualy costing more.
In the long run, the fatties and the smockers cost less as the average, because they die younger.
Idealy, just around retirement age.


Its been shown that smokers more than cover their own costs these days, because of higher taxes, insurance, and the fact that most smokers either live just fine to their normal age, or kick off fairly quickly. Sure you get the ones that linger around for a few years, but they are the exception, not the rule.

The cronically obese though have a lifetime of health issues starting from relatively young ages, and can still have a fairly average lifespan, just that they are in and out of the doctors office every other week, having surgeries all the time, and are on things like insulin their whole life. And that is without even getting into disability claims, etc.
 
2013-01-24 10:09:57 AM

Thunderpipes: Want to see the real fun? In 2040 or so, when white people are the minority, do you really think Democrats will be there defending the white man? Slavery will probably be made legal again. Your kids will suffer, but you don't care, because free stuff! Yay!


img.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-24 10:10:09 AM

Thunderpipes: WTF Indeed: Make being fat cost prohibitive. If the fatty wants healthcare he'll need to spend three times as much. If the fatty wants that extra large bucket of fried chicken it'll be $40. Simple economics. No shaming required.

We should.

We make being successful cost prohibitive, being male, being white, why not fat? They pay more for life insurance, why not health insurance?

Maybe you dems can make universal life insurance the next big thing? That would be a hoot.


Can we get a derp crew in here from the Politics tab? A farktard has esecaped again and is derping all over other tabs.

Being fat? 95% of the time it's a choice. Of cheap, easy, instant gratification food you can buy and eat, without thought or effort, that's loaded with 'feel good' chemicals like salt and sugar, and lights up your brain like a god damned christmas tree, as well as a genetic predisposition to 'eat all the things', vs. self control, and not-all-that-stuff, and exercise.

/fat
/bikes to work, gym 2-3 times a week, still eats terrible
/still fat. See: diet
 
2013-01-24 10:11:31 AM

ph0rk: By that same token, the dude (or dudette) in the wheelchair might be there because of their own stupidity, too.


They might, and if I thought for a second that shaming them would help them grow a new pair of legs, I'd give it a shot.
 
2013-01-24 10:13:18 AM

Thunderpipes: Queensowntalia: If weight issues are linked with mental issues, adding psychological attacks is only going to make the problem worse. I have struggled with both depression and my weight for years, and articles like these, and the resulting Fark "all fat people should go kill themselves" threads haven't motivated me to exercise, they've made me want to hurt myself and/or drink myself into a stupor. It's hard enough for me to leave the house to begin with. Please don't make it even harder.

So you are an average Farker?

What would you like, people to give you free pizza and say "well done!"? Sorry to sound harsh, but if you have the money to buy booze and eat so much and not leave the house, you have the money to go to a gym, hire a personal trainer and a shrink. I am reminded of the Simpsons's episode where Homer was in therapy like One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest.


We're all products of our environments and genes. Apparently you got lucky that you were produced as "thin". But unlucky in being a callous, insensitive, holier than thou, fark head.
 
2013-01-24 10:13:37 AM
Done in two.
 
2013-01-24 10:13:55 AM

Rootus: I love fattie threads. I suspect that, much like GOP homophobes, the folks who scream the loudest are in fact the fattest.


I always suspect that the ones who do the most vehement fat-shaming are borderline fat themselves, and are engaging in a weird combination of denial, self-loathing, and deflection. Basically, middle school.
 
2013-01-24 10:14:04 AM

Queensowntalia: If weight issues are linked with mental issues, adding psychological attacks is only going to make the problem worse. I have struggled with both depression and my weight for years, and articles like these, and the resulting Fark "all fat people should go kill themselves" threads haven't motivated me to exercise, they've made me want to hurt myself and/or drink myself into a stupor. It's hard enough for me to leave the house to begin with. Please don't make it even harder.


Then we set up extra large suicide booths for fat asses to take care of themselves, problem solved.

Your depression is driven partly by a self image issue if you can't fix that then there is no hope for you, getting out of the house has nothing to do with it, you are on the internet and there are a shiat ton of sites of workouts you can do at home. Expercise also releases endorphins to make you feel better so its win-win, bottom line is just exercise anywhere you can and quit making excuses.
 
2013-01-24 10:14:35 AM

WhippingBoy: xanadian: WTF Indeed: Make being fat cost prohibitive. If the fatty wants healthcare he'll need to spend three times as much. If the fatty wants that extra large bucket of fried chicken it'll be $40. Simple economics. No shaming required.

It works for cigarette smoking...

Not sure if serious.
The only people I know who buy cigarettes are the ones that can't afford it.


So how do they buy them then?
 
2013-01-24 10:14:43 AM

Thunderpipes: MikeBoomshadow: Thunderpipes: WTF Indeed: Make being fat cost prohibitive. If the fatty wants healthcare he'll need to spend three times as much. If the fatty wants that extra large bucket of fried chicken it'll be $40. Simple economics. No shaming required.

We should.

We make being successful cost prohibitive, being male, being white, why not fat? They pay more for life insurance, why not health insurance?

Maybe you dems can make universal life insurance the next big thing? That would be a hoot.

Speaking as a white male, how has my ethnicity become more cost prohibitive? The fact is, I'm actually a fair amount better off than I was four years ago, and can easily see improved earning potential in my field over the next four--and that's after taxes.

UIh huh, sure. How was your White only scholarship or your affirmative action promotion?

Want to see the real fun? In 2040 or so, when white people are the minority, do you really think Democrats will be there defending the white man? Slavery will probably be made legal again. Your kids will suffer, but you don't care, because free stuff! Yay!


Yeah that's what's going to happen. Definitely...

I don't agree with shaming in the sense of being rude to strangers, but I do think the whole Fat Acceptance-Tumblr Social Justice Brigade has got out of control with terminology.
Your doctor telling you to lose weight because you're destroying your knees is not fat-shaming. Your friends NOT ordering dessert is not fat shaming, you're just self centered and think everything other people do is about you.

As for "Thin privilege"? Give me a break.
 
2013-01-24 10:14:51 AM

Thunderpipes: if you have the money to buy booze and eat so much and not leave the house, you have the money to go to a gym, hire a personal trainer and a shrink.


edudemic.com

math

/look into it
 
2013-01-24 10:15:02 AM

WhippingBoy: passed by a couple of attractive coonty women.

 
2013-01-24 10:15:09 AM
We should step up the shame if anything.

Have a nationwide campaign of shame. We should. Obesity is killing us, and killing our kids. In one generation (maybe two) kids have tripled in obesity rates. The reasons are very simple. Kids don't play enough. They turn into adults who don't play enough. It is not soda, or McDonalds, or anything else. We had worse food when I was a kid. But you could eat 4 hamburgers, then play for 8 hours and still be skinny.

Being fat is not a disease, not a mental condition. It is just being lazy and unmotivated. So shame the crap out of kids from a young age. Sure, you might lose a couple in the process, but you would lose them anyway to fat health problems.
 
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