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(Today)   Bioethicist claims obesity can be reduced by shaming fat people instead of embracing them, because your arms just aren't long enough   (todayhealth.today.com) divider line 518
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2013-01-24 09:16:40 AM
"He must not have any contact with actual free-range fat people," she added.

Feh.  I keep mine caged like veal calves.  Do you know how many acres of cheesecake it takes to keep just one free range fattie?
 
2013-01-24 09:17:08 AM
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2013-01-24 09:20:24 AM
Haven't we been shaming fat people for decades already?
 
2013-01-24 09:25:13 AM

Vodka Zombie: Haven't we been shaming fat people for decades already?


Oh quit your whining and put the Twinkie down, Jabba.
 
2013-01-24 09:28:54 AM

Diogenes: Vodka Zombie: Haven't we been shaming fat people for decades already?

Oh quit your whining and put the Twinkie down, Jabba.


LOL!

Kinda walked waddled into that one, didn't I?
 
2013-01-24 09:33:23 AM

Diogenes: "He must not have any contact with actual free-range fat people," she added.

Feh.  I keep mine caged like veal calves.  Do you know how many acres of cheesecake it takes to keep just one free range fattie?


Thats just mean. You really can't appreciate the beauty and majesty of a fat person, until you see a herd of them grazing on the open plains just before sundown. The way the wind rustles their chins, and how the light just seems to danced on their hands covered with the glaze of that last boston cream donut.......it just tears me up thinking about it.
 
2013-01-24 09:34:01 AM
He sounds like he wants to justify his need to be a bully.
 
2013-01-24 09:37:54 AM
Eating a good diet also beats obesity..
 
2013-01-24 09:38:00 AM

bighairyguy: He sounds like he wants to justify his need to be a bully.


I feel I need to redeem myself from my earlier snark to say "THIS."
 
2013-01-24 09:38:54 AM

bighairyguy: He sounds like he wants to justify his need to be a bully.


So pointing out to someone, an adult nonetheless, that they live an unhealthy lifestyle now counts as bullying?

If you are over the age of 15 and are complaining about being bullied, you probably have it coming.
 
2013-01-24 09:39:14 AM
Fat people don't have feelings.
 
2013-01-24 09:39:41 AM
Funny, the same people who laugh at the fatties also laugh at New York for banning extra large Cokes. Which is it?
 
2013-01-24 09:39:57 AM
I lost 100 pounds this summer, so I'm getting a kick.
 
2013-01-24 09:40:11 AM
Whatever "ethicist" might have once meant, in recent decades it has come to mean "dope -- with no common sense".
 
2013-01-24 09:40:29 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: Fat people don't have feelings.


So what does that make fat gingers?

/Cue Christina Hendricks photo!
//Yes, I know she's not a natural redhead...
 
2013-01-24 09:40:39 AM

LineNoise: Diogenes: "He must not have any contact with actual free-range fat people," she added.

Feh.  I keep mine caged like veal calves.  Do you know how many acres of cheesecake it takes to keep just one free range fattie?

Thats just mean. You really can't appreciate the beauty and majesty of a fat person, until you see a herd of them grazing on the open plains just before sundown. The way the wind rustles their chins, and how the light just seems to danced on their hands covered with the glaze of that last boston cream donut.......it just tears me up thinking about it.


If we shame them they will graze more in order to feel better about themselves. if they graze more you can send more sightseeing tours, which will make the tour guide rich. Anyone interested in a position as tour guide?
 
2013-01-24 09:41:38 AM
This will go far in our "everyone gets a trophy" society.
 
2013-01-24 09:42:11 AM
Who knew "Your mama so fat" jokes were helping society?
 
2013-01-24 09:42:15 AM
Plus if you were raising fat people, I think free range is really the economical way to go. Why bother with fences and cages and such. What are they going to do? run away?
 
2013-01-24 09:42:40 AM
I assume it is also OK to punch an asshole in the face for not minding their own damn business, correct?
 
2013-01-24 09:43:09 AM
Shaming works well. That's why you don't see any retards anymore.
 
2013-01-24 09:43:30 AM
it's largely worked for smoking, didn't it?

/taxing helped, but not very much.
 
2013-01-24 09:44:06 AM
So, suicide is your solution... or maybe just some more mindless violence when someone snaps from being picked on... because that never happens..
 
2013-01-24 09:45:02 AM

The Angry Hand of God: I assume it is also OK to punch an asshole in the face for not minding their own damn business, correct?


Sure, but since obesity adds around 190 billion a year to health care costs making sure fat people lose weight is everyone's business.
 
2013-01-24 09:45:24 AM
"If you are overweight or obese, are you pleased with the way that you look?"


This is great, let's line the streets with posters demeaning everyone

"If you are black or dark brown, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are Jewish or have a big honker, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are in a wheelchair or missing legs, are you pleased with the way that you look?"
 
2013-01-24 09:46:09 AM

IlGreven: Funny, the same people who laugh at the fatties also laugh at New York for banning extra large Cokes. Which is it?


Both. If you're fat because you can't stop yourself from gulping down 64 fluid ounces of soda every time you stop at a gas station or fast food joint it means you lack self-control. The government protecting you from yourself has also had the negative impact of preventing me (someone WITH self-control) from enjoying a large beverage purchased at a gas station for the duration of a road trip.
 
2013-01-24 09:46:13 AM
Proof that he knows just less than jack shiat about anything.

/not fat
 
2013-01-24 09:46:13 AM

The Angry Hand of God: I assume it is also OK to punch an asshole in the face for not minding their own damn business, correct?


Which is why you tell them their fat then run away because any exercise is good for fat people.
 
2013-01-24 09:46:55 AM
Bullying people, how's that working for society? BioEthicist forgot their ethics.
 
2013-01-24 09:47:18 AM
Bullying works. Always has. It is an evolutionary instinct. Taking it away just makes losers not want to improve.
 
2013-01-24 09:48:44 AM

IlGreven: Funny, the same people who laugh at the fatties also laugh at New York for banning extra large Cokes. Which is it?


Can't we make fun of people without making laws to oppress them?
 
2013-01-24 09:48:56 AM

bighairyguy: He sounds like he wants to justify his need to be a bully.


Dingdingding! We have a winnah!
 
2013-01-24 09:49:22 AM
Make being fat cost prohibitive. If the fatty wants healthcare he'll need to spend three times as much. If the fatty wants that extra large bucket of fried chicken it'll be $40. Simple economics. No shaming required.
 
2013-01-24 09:49:44 AM

radiumsoup: it's largely worked for smoking, didn't it?

/taxing helped, but not very much.


No. Education, heavy taxes making them prohibitively expensive and banning the farking things almost everywhere worked for smoking.

This prick wants a moral justification for being a coont "its for their own good"

A stranger makes any "shaming" comments about my appearance uninvited will get a smack in the farking face, assuming I can catch the cowardly little fark.
 
2013-01-24 09:49:47 AM
If weight issues are linked with mental issues, adding psychological attacks is only going to make the problem worse. I have struggled with both depression and my weight for years, and articles like these, and the resulting Fark "all fat people should go kill themselves" threads haven't motivated me to exercise, they've made me want to hurt myself and/or drink myself into a stupor. It's hard enough for me to leave the house to begin with. Please don't make it even harder.
 
2013-01-24 09:49:56 AM

WhiskeyBoy: IlGreven: Funny, the same people who laugh at the fatties also laugh at New York for banning extra large Cokes. Which is it?

Both. If you're fat because you can't stop yourself from gulping down 64 fluid ounces of soda every time you stop at a gas station or fast food joint it means you lack self-control. The government protecting you from yourself has also had the negative impact of preventing me (someone WITH self-control) from enjoying a large beverage purchased at a gas station for the duration of a road trip.


Excellent point.  And to bring it back to obesity, it's a complex disorder that can't be solved with something as blunt and general as shaming.
 
2013-01-24 09:50:09 AM
Wrong target. The people who should be shamed are the greedy farks who rake in monstrous amounts of dollars by selling unhealthy addictive feed to their herds of indentured custommers.
But you would have to destroy the "capitalist" neofeudal structure of power in murika to do that, so won't happen
 
2013-01-24 09:50:24 AM
That article sounds fat.

hbk72777: "If you are overweight or obese, are you pleased with the way that you look?"


This is great, let's line the streets with posters demeaning everyone

"If you are black or dark brown, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are Jewish or have a big honker, are you pleased with the way that you look?"

"If you are in a wheelchair or missing legs, are you pleased with the way that you look?"


Except fat people have potentially more control over their looks than those of different races/ethnicities or those with handicaps. Potentially. They just have to put the bag of Cheetos down.
 
2013-01-24 09:51:02 AM

WTF Indeed: Make being fat cost prohibitive. If the fatty wants healthcare he'll need to spend three times as much. If the fatty wants that extra large bucket of fried chicken it'll be $40. Simple economics. No shaming required.


It works for cigarette smoking...
 
2013-01-24 09:52:03 AM
Anyone seen that one commercial for soup? The Oh Oh Oh crap. They end with a bunch of ladies going OOOHHH while a former fatty is in a blue dress that she can fit in now. That's great and all but she still has ham arms... I guess the soup doesn't help you if you have hams for arms...
 
2013-01-24 09:52:12 AM

Queensowntalia: If weight issues are linked with mental issues, adding psychological attacks is only going to make the problem worse. I have struggled with both depression and my weight for years, and articles like these, and the resulting Fark "all fat people should go kill themselves" threads haven't motivated me to exercise, they've made me want to hurt myself and/or drink myself into a stupor. It's hard enough for me to leave the house to begin with. Please don't make it even harder.


Well said.
 
2013-01-24 09:52:26 AM
Oooh fatty thread!

off to find some pork rinds
 
2013-01-24 09:52:32 AM

IlGreven: Funny, the same people who laugh at the fatties also laugh at New York for banning extra large Cokes. Which is it?


"We should have the right to choose for ourselves!"

"Hey, you! You chose poorly!"
 
2013-01-24 09:53:03 AM

DuncanMhor: radiumsoup: it's largely worked for smoking, didn't it?

/taxing helped, but not very much.

No. Education, heavy taxes making them prohibitively expensive and banning the farking things almost everywhere worked for smoking.

This prick wants a moral justification for being a coont "its for their own good"

A stranger makes any "shaming" comments about my appearance uninvited will get a smack in the farking face, assuming I can catch the cowardly little fark.


The social stigma went a long way as well though. People have always known cigarettes were bad for you (and actually if you look at the real science, the risk, while very real, is overblown). I can step outside for a smoke. I can afford a pack even if you have crazy prices.

But I gave up smoking mainly because you knew people looked at you and said, "man, you are an idiot for smoking". The other things help, sure, but eventually you have to make someone not want to be a smoker\fat\whatever.
 
2013-01-24 09:53:04 AM

WTF Indeed: Make being fat cost prohibitive. If the fatty wants healthcare he'll need to spend three times as much. If the fatty wants that extra large bucket of fried chicken it'll be $40. Simple economics. No shaming required.


We should.

We make being successful cost prohibitive, being male, being white, why not fat? They pay more for life insurance, why not health insurance?

Maybe you dems can make universal life insurance the next big thing? That would be a hoot.
 
2013-01-24 09:53:12 AM

Diogenes: WhiskeyBoy: IlGreven: Funny, the same people who laugh at the fatties also laugh at New York for banning extra large Cokes. Which is it?

Both. If you're fat because you can't stop yourself from gulping down 64 fluid ounces of soda every time you stop at a gas station or fast food joint it means you lack self-control. The government protecting you from yourself has also had the negative impact of preventing me (someone WITH self-control) from enjoying a large beverage purchased at a gas station for the duration of a road trip.

Excellent point.  And to bring it back to obesity, it's a complex disorder that can't be solved with something as blunt and general as shaming.


And there are genetic conditions that either make people more prone to being fat, or outright can't help it. A lot of those chromosomal abnormalities can cause it (i.e. Angelman syndrome).
 
2013-01-24 09:53:30 AM

Carth: The Angry Hand of God: I assume it is also OK to punch an asshole in the face for not minding their own damn business, correct?

Sure, but since obesity adds around 190 billion a year to health care costs making sure fat people lose weight is everyone's business.


And how much does depression and other psychological disorders add?

Plus, when this guy inevitably runs across a fat person he shouldn't have bullied, how much does reconstructive orthodontic surgery add?

/we fatties can throw a punch
//usually only one
///already feeling a bit winded
////virgules
 
2013-01-24 09:54:00 AM

LineNoise: So pointing out to someone, an adult nonetheless, that they live an unhealthy lifestyle now counts as bullying?


Yes. Didn't you get the memo? You're not allowed to make anyone feel bad about themselves for their obvious bad choices and lack of responsibility.
 
2013-01-24 09:54:21 AM

Carth: Sure, but since obesity adds around 190 billion a year to health care costs making sure fat people lose weight is everyone's business.


So what you're saying is that lawmakers are going to be lobbied heavily [pun, lol] to ensure that the obesity problem grows.

/no more recess in schools
//job security
 
2013-01-24 09:55:05 AM

Thunderpipes: We should.

We make being successful cost prohibitive, being male, being white, why not fat? They pay more for life insurance, why not health insurance?

Maybe you dems can make universal life insurance the next big thing? That would be a hoot.


This is fat thread, the retarded comments thread is somewhere else.
 
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