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2013-01-24 11:20:37 AM  
5 votes:

People in this thread seem to want to attack my point of view, but this is why I feel this way:

How Marijuana Ruined My Life
by spentmiles


This past fall, while I was working at a call center in Colorado, one of my co-workers asked me to come to a party at his house. I didn't know if I wanted to go, but he said we'd play games and watch movies. That sounded fun, so I told him that I would go.

When I got there, the music was loud and people were drinking alcohol, which made me nervous. My father drank and used to beat us with a pipe when he was drunk.

I was turning to leave when I saw two men in the living room smoking marijuana. I froze in place, not sure what to do. Then one of the men held out the marijuana and asked me if I wanted to try it. I kicked him in the groin as hard as I could and then, scared the other man would attack me, I ran out of the house as fast as I could.

I went directly to the police and told them about the men who were smoking the drugs. They didn't seem to care until I told them that I'd managed to kick one of them. They arrested me for assault. They went out and found the guy whom I'd kicked and he wanted to press charges. I sat in jail for weeks, lost my job and my apartment.

I was then convicted in criminal court and had to serve an additional 90 days in the maximum security wing because I was a violent offender. In custody, I was raped repeatedly by my cell mate and his endless gang of thugs. I tried to kill myself by hanging, but I failed, leaving horrible scars on my neck.

The man I kicked sued me in civil court and won. He took my car and my savings and they put a garnish on my future wages. He probably used the money to buy more drugs.

If I'd only ran the moment I saw the marijuana, I would still have my life. It can ruin you and you don't even have to smoke it. Stay away please.
2013-01-24 10:02:33 AM  
5 votes:
The current proposals set a limit of five nanograms of THC

I don't think my dealer sells nanograms.
2013-01-24 10:58:17 AM  
2 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Marcus Aurelius: Plus this way, we can lock up more freedom loving Americans! I can't think of a better way to make American freedom even more popular than locking up more Americans, can you?

By legalizing pot? I don't get it.


Legalize the pot, but criminalize the driving. No one gets locked up for possession of less than an ounce any more unless they're on probation. Impaired driving, on the other hand, could introduce millions of new customers to the criminal justice system. Just think of all the lawyers and criminal justice workers we'll need to hire.
2013-01-24 10:55:04 AM  
2 votes:
Are they going to add "running through a forest" to the roadside intoxication test?
2013-01-24 10:48:05 AM  
2 votes:

garumph: the casual user isn't going to get busted because they lit up yesterday


You must be new to America.
2013-01-24 10:14:01 AM  
2 votes:
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Just like the other one.
2013-01-24 10:06:58 AM  
2 votes:

markie_farkie: Mateorocks: A British article about driving regulations in Colorado?

WHAT COULD THEY KNOW, THEY DRIVE ON THE WRONG FARKING SIDE OF THE ROAD FER CHRISSAKE!!!


Left Handed driving, Left Handed cigarettes.
2013-01-24 02:10:11 PM  
1 votes:

mgshamster: khyberkitsune: Sorry, I screwed up. After a review of legal statutes, Nevada should be sued for aiding and abetting.

You reviewed the legal statutes in 38 seconds?


Grep is a wonderful tool, learn it.

bhcompy: khyberkitsune: PROTIP: I'm a research director for a multinational horticulture company. I know this sort of biased bullshiat when I see it.

So you read the study, examined who conducted it and checked their prior work, crunched the numbers, came up with your own results that differ from their results, etc, right? Or you just dismissed it prima facie, because that's what it looks like. You might know bullshiat research, but you sure as hell didn't have the time to determine that this was bullshiat. In a way, you're worse than DEvans, because you claim to be an expert.


I've not only crunched their numbers but been a participant in similar tests.

Got some news for you - I directly participated in these. You obviously have not.
2013-01-24 11:33:29 AM  
1 votes:

spentmiles: People in this thread seem to want to attack my point of view, but this is why I feel this way:

How Marijuana Ruined My Life
by spentmiles

This past fall, while I was working at a call center in Colorado, one of my co-workers asked me to come to a party at his house. I didn't know if I wanted to go, but he said we'd play games and watch movies. That sounded fun, so I told him that I would go.

When I got there, the music was loud and people were drinking alcohol, which made me nervous. My father drank and used to beat us with a pipe when he was drunk.

I was turning to leave when I saw two men in the living room smoking marijuana. I froze in place, not sure what to do. Then one of the men held out the marijuana and asked me if I wanted to try it. I kicked him in the groin as hard as I could and then, scared the other man would attack me, I ran out of the house as fast as I could.

I went directly to the police and told them about the men who were smoking the drugs. They didn't seem to care until I told them that I'd managed to kick one of them. They arrested me for assault. They went out and found the guy whom I'd kicked and he wanted to press charges. I sat in jail for weeks, lost my job and my apartment.

I was then convicted in criminal court and had to serve an additional 90 days in the maximum security wing because I was a violent offender. In custody, I was raped repeatedly by my cell mate and his endless gang of thugs. I tried to kill myself by hanging, but I failed, leaving horrible scars on my neck.

The man I kicked sued me in civil court and won. He took my car and my savings and they put a garnish on my future wages. He probably used the money to buy more drugs.

If I'd only ran the moment I saw the marijuana, I would still have my life. It can ruin you and you don't even have to smoke it. Stay away please.


If your story saves even ONE youth from a lifetime of weed addiction, then all that prison rape will have been worth it!
2013-01-24 11:32:46 AM  
1 votes:

MythDragon: Mr_Fabulous: spentmiles: Marijuana, by definition, induces psychotic and unpredictable behavior in its users.

You believe that the definition of "marijuana" is 'that which induces psychosis'?

Were you dropped on your head or something?

You must be new here...



I already grumbled and harrumphed in embarrassed disgust; what more do you want from me?
2013-01-24 11:21:48 AM  
1 votes:

markie_farkie: Mateorocks: A British article about driving regulations in Colorado?

WHAT COULD THEY KNOW, THEY DRIVE ON THE WRONG FARKING SIDE OF THE ROAD FER CHRISSAKE!!!


And so do pot-heads. Coincidence?
2013-01-24 10:48:31 AM  
1 votes:
FTA: "The proposal is aimed at addressing the concerns of medical marijuana users, who are often chronically over the five nanogram limit."
2013-01-24 10:43:46 AM  
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: This is so awesome. Colorado resorts can start advertising their weed friendliness which will push the squares and families off to Utah. Everybody wins!


I like CO because I can still feel mildly hip there.  San Francisco makes me feel closed-minded and lame.
2013-01-24 10:35:32 AM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: spentmiles: Isn't there a law that allows you to commit a person for 72 hours of observation if they're exhibiting signs of psychosis? Marijuana, by definition, induces psychotic and unpredictable behavior in its users. If the police even suspect a driver is under the influence, then I'd think that 72 hours would be the absolute minimum they should be held. It's like when you get bitten by a dog - they have to keep the dog under observation to see if it has rabies. I'd feel safer knowing that these drug users are at least off the street for a few days while their highs wear off.

I always wondered what the word "marijuana" meant. Now I can tell everyone it means "induces psychotic and unpredictable behavior"!

/you'll get some bites, don't worry


Grumble, grumble, harrumph...
2013-01-24 10:33:16 AM  
1 votes:
CSB from Colorado four weeks ago/

Me and a few friends twist up a jay the size of a pine tree and get into the car. My sober girlfriend drives us slowly around to look at Christmas lights. We get pulled over because I have a brake light out and didn't know it. We've looked like a cropduster for the past hour with smoke pouring from the windows. The cop asks my girl if "she's been imbibing." She says no and tells him which hospital she works at, and they know some common people in the ER. The cop says, "well just get that brake light fixed, and tell ya, that smells like some pretty good stuff." I f*cking love Colorado.

/CSB

But seriously, Colorado sucks. Don't move here.
2013-01-24 10:32:03 AM  
1 votes:

spentmiles: Isn't there a law that allows you to commit a person for 72 hours of observation if they're exhibiting signs of psychosis? Marijuana, by definition, induces psychotic and unpredictable behavior in its users. If the police even suspect a driver is under the influence, then I'd think that 72 hours would be the absolute minimum they should be held. It's like when you get bitten by a dog - they have to keep the dog under observation to see if it has rabies. I'd feel safer knowing that these drug users are at least off the street for a few days while their highs wear off.


I always wondered what the word "marijuana" meant. Now I can tell everyone it means "induces psychotic and unpredictable behavior"!

/you'll get some bites, don't worry
2013-01-24 10:30:08 AM  
1 votes:
How about...

waiting to see if there is a problem before you go looking for solutions.
2013-01-24 10:22:17 AM  
1 votes:

dofus: Flibbertigibbet: it's going to be impossible to prove/enforce unless there are obvious other signs

Set up special courts with boxing style rings front and center and a microphone hanging from the ceiling.

"In this corner, Officer Friendly."
"In this corner, Pot Head."

Throw a doughnut in the middle. If Officer Friendly gets it, Pot Head gets 30 days in the slammer.


You also need a greasy whore and a rolling dance floor
2013-01-24 10:20:36 AM  
1 votes:
Isn't there a law that allows you to commit a person for 72 hours of observation if they're exhibiting signs of psychosis? Marijuana, by definition, induces psychotic and unpredictable behavior in its users. If the police even suspect a driver is under the influence, then I'd think that 72 hours would be the absolute minimum they should be held. It's like when you get bitten by a dog - they have to keep the dog under observation to see if it has rabies. I'd feel safer knowing that these drug users are at least off the street for a few days while their highs wear off.
2013-01-24 10:20:30 AM  
1 votes:

syberpud: The Angry Hand of God: Supporters of the introduction of tighter sanctions have pointed to evidence from 2011 revealing that 13 per cent of fatal crashes in the state involved the drug.

Oh, really? Just a guess, but I think this actually means they found marijuana that may have been smoked at some point in the past 30 days in their system.

That does complicate things. Is there a way (besides "the drivers smelled like a Phish concert") to detect use in the past couple of hours and not days ago that can be used in court? Otherwise they are going with that and it will be a wide net.


They would have to test you twice, with a three hour wait in between, and then take the difference as the amount you had "actively" in your system.

No anti-pot legislator in the country is nearly intelligent enough to recognize that reality.

Plus this way, we can lock up more freedom loving Americans! I can't think of a better way to make American freedom even more popular than locking up more Americans, can you?
2013-01-24 10:14:59 AM  
1 votes:
So it begins. Today cannabis, tomorrow cannibals.
2013-01-24 10:08:52 AM  
1 votes:

The Angry Hand of God: Supporters of the introduction of tighter sanctions have pointed to evidence from 2011 revealing that 13 per cent of fatal crashes in the state involved the drug.

Oh, really? Just a guess, but I think this actually means they found marijuana that may have been smoked at some point in the past 30 days in their system.


You're likely correct. It's the same sort of statistic that MADD publishes when they say 36% of all traffic fatalities were alcohol-related - what they don't tell you is they reached that figure by determining whether anyone involved in the accidents, driving or otherwise, had an elevated blood alcohol level - guy in the backseat had a shot and a couple of beers 3 hours prior to the accident? It's alcohol related.
2013-01-24 10:04:59 AM  
1 votes:
further evidence of impairment, such as dangerous driving

Gee, there's a thought. Require that someone show evidence of creating a danger to themselves or the public before arresting them for creating a danger to themselves or the public? How quaint.
2013-01-24 10:01:09 AM  
1 votes:
I realize that Fark may have some kind of sponsored deal with the Daily Mail, but really? A British article about driving regulations in Colorado?
 
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