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2013-01-24 11:08:31 AM

Amos Quito: Joe Blowme: TappingTheVein: George Babbitt: Actually there are some Jews that raise similar questions Ten questions to the Zionists by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L

Neturei Karta. They are jews like i'm Pope Benedict XV(*). They are a cult which ejaculate at the thought of the destruction of Israel and they will kiss the ass of anyone (literally anyone) who poses some kind of threat to Israel. There is a reason why they are despised by every other jewish organizations besides their own kind.

I wonder why Fark's resident anti-semite Amos Quito adores them. hmm.

/* i'm not Pope Benedict XV

I'm guessing he is a dhimmi or a full blown death cult member.


No, I'm not Zionist.


That is the only truthful thing you have posted thus far, so im going with death cult member. praise be the pedo bear mo, (piss be upon him)
 
2013-01-24 11:10:29 AM

George Babbitt: The 'State of Israel' is not true Israel, so to say that they want to destroy Israel is not accurate. What they hope is that the abomination that perpetrates a fraud on world calling itself the 'State of Israel' and claiming ownership of the name 'Israel' would cease and desist in these actions.


Didn't realize we had the arbiter of what true Israel is on Fark!

Any other nations you think are committing fraud with their choice in name?
 
2013-01-24 11:13:15 AM

liam76: George Babbitt: The 'State of Israel' is not true Israel, so to say that they want to destroy Israel is not accurate. What they hope is that the abomination that perpetrates a fraud on world calling itself the 'State of Israel' and claiming ownership of the name 'Israel' would cease and desist in these actions.

Didn't realize we had the arbiter of what true Israel is on Fark!

Any other nations you think are committing fraud with their choice in name?


The state of Illinois is a fraudulent state. It is controlled by a bunch of white dudes instead of the tribe for which the state is named after.
 
2013-01-24 11:15:39 AM

George Babbitt: The 'State of Israel' is not true Israel, so to say that they want to destroy Israel is not accurate. What they hope is that the abomination that perpetrates a fraud on world calling itself the 'State of Israel' and claiming ownership of the name 'Israel' would cease and desist in these actions.


It's always refreshing to see someone here who is as batshiat insane as the Neturei Karta cult clowns.
 
2013-01-24 11:15:40 AM

liam76: So, to be a member of the US media you have to be jewish?


no that's a strawman.

let's just say "It doesn't hurt"

and if you go look at those companies and their board of directors,major stockholders and top executives you'd find that they are in a huge majority. nowhere close to the same ratio as the general population.

as for some vast conspiracy can you deny that these groups aren't trying to direct US policy in favor of Israel? That they aren't buying politicians and /or using their media to intimidate or coerce them? you'd be lying if you did. and you know it.

Now I could list a lot of the major media and bank people but we don't need to go that far. We all know I'm right about it. You just won't admit it.

Of twenty-six U.S. Treasury Department senior officials, eighteen are Jews
This is a numerical representation of 69%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population

Of Bush's foreign policy people most of them were Jews. Especially those neocons who pushed for the war.
Abrams,Feith,Wolfowitz,Perle,Kristol,Libby, Cohen,Kagan,Leeden,Gaffney and a host of others led the charge.

But move along , nothing to see here right?
 
2013-01-24 11:15:42 AM

cman: liam76: George Babbitt: The 'State of Israel' is not true Israel, so to say that they want to destroy Israel is not accurate. What they hope is that the abomination that perpetrates a fraud on world calling itself the 'State of Israel' and claiming ownership of the name 'Israel' would cease and desist in these actions.

Didn't realize we had the arbiter of what true Israel is on Fark!

Any other nations you think are committing fraud with their choice in name?

The state of Illinois is a fraudulent state. It is controlled by a bunch of white dudes instead of the tribe for which the state is named after.


Also Utah.
 
2013-01-24 11:15:47 AM

liam76: George Babbitt: The 'State of Israel' is not true Israel, so to say that they want to destroy Israel is not accurate. What they hope is that the abomination that perpetrates a fraud on world calling itself the 'State of Israel' and claiming ownership of the name 'Israel' would cease and desist in these actions.

Didn't realize we had the arbiter of what true Israel is on Fark!

Any other nations you think are committing fraud with their choice in name?


Palistine is inhabited by Jordainians and Egyptains, does that count?


/"The Holocaust never ended but the victims have decided to defend themselves..."

"Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?"

-Walid Shoebat
 
2013-01-24 11:19:17 AM

cman: liam76: George Babbitt: The 'State of Israel' is not true Israel, so to say that they want to destroy Israel is not accurate. What they hope is that the abomination that perpetrates a fraud on world calling itself the 'State of Israel' and claiming ownership of the name 'Israel' would cease and desist in these actions.

Didn't realize we had the arbiter of what true Israel is on Fark!

Any other nations you think are committing fraud with their choice in name?

The state of Illinois is a fraudulent state. It is controlled by a bunch of white dudes instead of the tribe for which the state is named after.


You mean the people that came over via the Trans-Siberian Bridge and were not native to this land? And btw, Illinois is not a nation but we understand its probably your nap time and you are tired.
 
2013-01-24 11:22:10 AM

Joe Blowme: Amos Quito: Joe Blowme: TappingTheVein: George Babbitt: Actually there are some Jews that raise similar questions Ten questions to the Zionists by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L

Neturei Karta. They are jews like i'm Pope Benedict XV(*). They are a cult which ejaculate at the thought of the destruction of Israel and they will kiss the ass of anyone (literally anyone) who poses some kind of threat to Israel. There is a reason why they are despised by every other jewish organizations besides their own kind.

I wonder why Fark's resident anti-semite Amos Quito adores them. hmm.

/* i'm not Pope Benedict XV

I'm guessing he is a dhimmi or a full blown death cult member.


No, I'm not Zionist.

That is the only truthful thing you have posted thus far, so im going with death cult member. praise be the pedo bear mo, (piss be upon him)


Do you know WHO ELSE tried to round up Jews and CONCENTRATE them into tiny, highly vulnerable areas?

www1.american.edu

Zionism: Death cult indeed.
 
2013-01-24 11:30:03 AM

liam76: George Babbitt: The 'State of Israel' is not true Israel, so to say that they want to destroy Israel is not accurate. What they hope is that the abomination that perpetrates a fraud on world calling itself the 'State of Israel' and claiming ownership of the name 'Israel' would cease and desist in these actions.

Didn't realize we had the arbiter of what true Israel is on Fark!


Aww, shucks...little ol' me...nawwww. It's just this little tome called the New Testament which provides all the expert testimony on the subject.

And before any frothing at the mouth occurs at the idea of my promoting or advocating that nutball ideology of white/anglo saxon peoples being the real descendants of Abraham and the real Israel that is associated with the other nutball ideology of white nationalism/pride, it is not the case.

 
2013-01-24 11:30:39 AM

Hobodeluxe: liam76: So, to be a member of the US media you have to be jewish?

no that's a strawman.


Why are you cherry picking that line and ignoring what Amos said?

He compared Jews in Media to blacks in the congressional black caucus. For that comparison to be apt you would have to be jewish to be in the media.

There is no strawman in pointing out he is wrong, that you chose to sut that part out after I amde it very clear to you shows how dishonest you are.


Hobodeluxe: and if you go look at those companies and their board of directors,major stockholders and top executives you'd find that they are in a huge majority. nowhere close to the same ratio as the general population.

as for some vast conspiracy can you deny that these groups aren't trying to direct US policy in favor of Israel? That they aren't buying politicians and /or using their media to intimidate or coerce them? you'd be lying if you did. and you know it.


That sounds like a vast conspiracy. Especially when you are defending the claim that they "control" media.

Who are in "these groups"? Is it all jews? Do they have jew meeting where they get together and decide which politicians to buy?


Hobodeluxe: Now I could list a lot of the major media and bank people but we don't need to go that far. We all know I'm right about it. You just won't admit it.


Right about what?

Yes there are a lot of jews in media, yes there are a lot of jews in finance, you have yet to define "neocon" and what percent are jewish, but I will accept that many are jewish. So what?

Are all jews part of this mysterious group? Why can't you name this group?


Hobodeluxe: But move along , nothing to see here right?


We have a nutter who is hinting at jews being part of some nefarious "group", all to common for it to be a big something, but I wouldn't say it is nothing.
 
2013-01-24 11:33:37 AM

George Babbitt: liam76: George Babbitt: The 'State of Israel' is not true Israel, so to say that they want to destroy Israel is not accurate. What they hope is that the abomination that perpetrates a fraud on world calling itself the 'State of Israel' and claiming ownership of the name 'Israel' would cease and desist in these actions.

Didn't realize we had the arbiter of what true Israel is on Fark!

Aww, shucks...little ol' me...nawwww. It's just this little tome called the New Testament which provides all the expert testimony on the subject.And before any frothing at the mouth occurs at the idea of my promoting or advocating that nutball ideology of white/anglo saxon peoples being the real descendants of Abraham and the real Israel that is associated with the other nutball ideology of white nationalism/pride, it is not the case.


You are promoting nutball ideology if you thinkt he new testament says "the state of Israel" can't have "Israel" in it's name.
 
2013-01-24 11:37:37 AM
Jews might not control the media, but the hard core Zionists and Christian fundies that worship them are still a blight.
 
2013-01-24 11:39:23 AM

liam76: George Babbitt: liam76: George Babbitt: The 'State of Israel' is not true Israel, so to say that they want to destroy Israel is not accurate. What they hope is that the abomination that perpetrates a fraud on world calling itself the 'State of Israel' and claiming ownership of the name 'Israel' would cease and desist in these actions.

Didn't realize we had the arbiter of what true Israel is on Fark!

Aww, shucks...little ol' me...nawwww. It's just this little tome called the New Testament which provides all the expert testimony on the subject.And before any frothing at the mouth occurs at the idea of my promoting or advocating that nutball ideology of white/anglo saxon peoples being the real descendants of Abraham and the real Israel that is associated with the other nutball ideology of white nationalism/pride, it is not the case.

You are promoting nutball ideology if you thinkt he new testament says "the state of Israel" can't have "Israel" in it's name.

It can name itself whatever it wants, national sovereignty and all that, but it don't make it true.

 
2013-01-24 11:42:02 AM

Amos Quito: Joe Blowme: Amos Quito: Joe Blowme: TappingTheVein: George Babbitt: Actually there are some Jews that raise similar questions Ten questions to the Zionists by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L

Neturei Karta. They are jews like i'm Pope Benedict XV(*). They are a cult which ejaculate at the thought of the destruction of Israel and they will kiss the ass of anyone (literally anyone) who poses some kind of threat to Israel. There is a reason why they are despised by every other jewish organizations besides their own kind.

I wonder why Fark's resident anti-semite Amos Quito adores them. hmm.

/* i'm not Pope Benedict XV

I'm guessing he is a dhimmi or a full blown death cult member.


No, I'm not Zionist.

That is the only truthful thing you have posted thus far, so im going with death cult member. praise be the pedo bear mo, (piss be upon him)

Do you know WHO ELSE tried to round up Jews and CONCENTRATE them into tiny, highly vulnerable areas?

[www1.american.edu image 322x385]

Zionism: Death cult indeed.


The UN?

Israel was the solution for the worlds greatest refugee problem that went on for two thousand years. Its too bad the Egyptians and Jordaininas refuse to take their own people back and make them live like permanent refugees, but what do you expect from the a death cult society.
 
2013-01-24 11:42:52 AM

phalaeo: This makes me so terribly sad. I really don't understand anti-Semitism.... I just don't. The majority of us live in quiet, well kept homes. We pay our taxes. We take care of our own and rarely use social services. We don't go around knocking on doors and annoying the shiat out of people trying to get them to convert. I mean, I seriously don't understand the hate. Stereotypes? Sure. I'm Jewish and even I laugh at some of the stereotypes. But to just flat out hate us.... I don't get it, at least in the US.


That's what happens when the supporters of Israel consistently answer all criticism with false accusations of "anti-semitism." It's really Israel and zionism people are against, but the continuous conflation of Jews and Israel results in the hate for one spilling over to the other. It won't end until non-israeli jews make it clear that Israel does not represent them.

No, it's not fair.
 
2013-01-24 11:47:00 AM

Joe Blowme: Israel was the solution for the worlds greatest refugee problem that went on for two thousand years. Its too bad the Egyptians and Jordaininas refuse to take their own people back and make them live like permanent refugees, but what do you expect from the a death cult society.


"Refugee problem"?

The ashkenazim weren't refugees. The sephardim weren't refugees. The Beta Israel weren't refugees. Ditto the Yemenites, persian jews, Mizrahim, indian jews, and so on. Not until a group of europeans created a colony in the ME, anyway.
 
2013-01-24 12:10:52 PM

Joe Blowme: No, I'm not Zionist.

That is the only truthful thing you have posted thus far, so im going with death cult member. praise be the pedo bear mo, (piss be upon him)

Do you know WHO ELSE tried to round up Jews and CONCENTRATE them into tiny, highly vulnerable areas?

[www1.american.edu image 322x385]

Zionism: Death cult indeed.

The UN?



LOL! The UN didn't "create" Israel - they just rubber-stamped the work of the Zionists.

Hell, the UN didn't even exist until 1945.

Political Zionism,OTOH, had been working like hell to lay their hands on the real estate and to populate it with Jews (most of which wanted NO PART of the scheme) for 50 years prior to the founding of the UN.

The push for Political Zionism preceded the "Young Turk Revolution", preceded WWI, the Bolshevik Revolution, WWII and the Holocaust by DECADES.

Joe Blowme: Israel was the solution for the worlds greatest refugee problem that went on for two thousand years



No, the goal of Political Zionism was not to deal with a "refugee problem", or even a "persecution problem", rather, it was intended to deal with a much GREATER threat: The ASSIMILATION problem.

The greatest threat to Judaism and to the Jews AS A PEOPLE as ALWAYS been that they would simply meld into their host societies, forget that they were Jews, and simply start thinking of themselves as "people".

That threat continues to be the GREATEST fear of Jewish / Zionist leaders to this day.

Assimilation is and always has been the greatest fear.

Why? I don't know. Perhaps you can tell me?
 
2013-01-24 12:16:10 PM

Amos Quito: That threat continues to be the GREATEST fear of Jewish / Zionist leaders to this day.


WATCH: New campaign targets Jews 'lost' to assimilation


Better link.

/For your edification
 
2013-01-24 12:21:24 PM

liam76: Hobodeluxe: liam76: So, to be a member of the US media you have to be jewish?

no that's a strawman.

Why are you cherry picking that line and ignoring what Amos said?

He compared Jews in Media to blacks in the congressional black caucus. For that comparison to be apt you would have to be jewish to be in the media.

There is no strawman in pointing out he is wrong, that you chose to sut that part out after I amde it very clear to you shows how dishonest you are.


Hobodeluxe: and if you go look at those companies and their board of directors,major stockholders and top executives you'd find that they are in a huge majority. nowhere close to the same ratio as the general population.

as for some vast conspiracy can you deny that these groups aren't trying to direct US policy in favor of Israel? That they aren't buying politicians and /or using their media to intimidate or coerce them? you'd be lying if you did. and you know it.

That sounds like a vast conspiracy. Especially when you are defending the claim that they "control" media.

Who are in "these groups"? Is it all jews? Do they have jew meeting where they get together and decide which politicians to buy?


Hobodeluxe: Now I could list a lot of the major media and bank people but we don't need to go that far. We all know I'm right about it. You just won't admit it.

Right about what?

Yes there are a lot of jews in media, yes there are a lot of jews in finance, you have yet to define "neocon" and what percent are jewish, but I will accept that many are jewish. So what?

Are all jews part of this mysterious group? Why can't you name this group?


Hobodeluxe: But move along , nothing to see here right?

We have a nutter who is hinting at jews being part of some nefarious "group", all to common for it to be a big something, but I wouldn't say it is nothing.


Groups control the media ALL the time. It's called PR. Isreal is just extra good at it. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy, just concerted effort by a range of individuals sharing a common goal. When there is a high concentration of those individuals in places of power this concerted effort can be very effective.

/I'm not talking about Jews
//I'm talking about lawyers. Surely we can agree to hate lawyers, right?
///My best friend is a lawyer :)
 
2013-01-24 12:23:16 PM

TappingTheVein: George Babbitt: The 'State of Israel' is not true Israel, so to say that they want to destroy Israel is not accurate. What they hope is that the abomination that perpetrates a fraud on world calling itself the 'State of Israel' and claiming ownership of the name 'Israel' would cease and desist in these actions.

It's always refreshing to see someone here who is as batshiat insane as the Neturei Karta cult clowns.



Any Jew who objects to the insanity of Zionism MUST be insane, right?

Funny, prior to WWII and the Holocaust, the vast majority of Jews were "insane", by that definition, because they certainly wanted NO PART of the suicidally stupid Zionist scheme. In fact, were it not for Hitler and his sheep dogs nipping at the heels of the stubborn Jews, FORCING them to abandon their lives and head to the Promised Land, the Zionist scheme probably would have failed entirely.

Don't you think?
 
2013-01-24 12:32:46 PM
You would think he would be a little more grateful to them after they put him in power.
 
2013-01-24 12:36:53 PM
' Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi reportedly implied that the Jews control the US media and have distorted comments he made in the past about Zionists being "bloodsuckers" and "descendants of apes and pigs." '

Some of you need to read this line again and comprehend the ridiculousness of what you're attempting to explain away. Many of the comments here are truly disturbing.
 
2013-01-24 12:38:38 PM
www.fanforhire.com
There is NO Jewish media control, it is all an illusion. And so what if there is? Wolf Blitzer and Judith Miller would never lie to you.
 
2013-01-24 12:39:11 PM

Amos Quito: No, the goal of Political Zionism was not to deal with a "refugee problem", or even a "persecution problem", rather, it was intended to deal with a much GREATER threat: The ASSIMILATION problem.


Amos Quito: Funny, prior to WWII and the Holocaust, the vast majority of Jews were "insane", by that definition, because they certainly wanted NO PART of the suicidally stupid Zionist scheme. In fact, were it not for Hitler and his sheep dogs nipping at the heels of the stubborn Jews, FORCING them to abandon their lives and head to the Promised Land, the Zionist scheme probably would have failed entirely.


Keep your derp straight.

If assimilation was the greatest fear of Political Zionism and not persecution, why did persecution drive so many people to Political Zionism?

shkkmo: Groups control the media ALL the time. It's called PR. Isreal is just extra good at it. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy, just concerted effort by a range of individuals sharing a common goal. When there is a high concentration of those individuals in places of power this concerted effort can be very effective.


I think you are confusing "influence" and "control".

I also have a problem witht he implication that all jews share a common goal.
 
2013-01-24 12:41:13 PM

Torgo: ' Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi reportedly implied that the Jews control the US media and have distorted comments he made in the past about Zionists being "bloodsuckers" and "descendants of apes and pigs." '

Some of you need to read this line again and comprehend the ridiculousness of what you're attempting to explain away. Many of the comments here are truly disturbing.


I remember a Jewish dominated American media working night and day, for months, to convince the American people that Iraq was responsible for 9/11. I remember Zionists and NeoCons using Judith Miller as a conduit to the front page of the NYT and the owners of the NYT turning a blind eye. I trust nothing from ANY middle easterner.
 
2013-01-24 12:49:39 PM
Well, if it weren't for those pesky VIDEOS of Morsi calling Jews "pigs" and "bloodsuckers", he may have a point.
But NOW he's an anti-semite whpo apparently has no credibility.

Clearly, this man, with a history of supporting the tenets of Sharia law, should be given F16s & tanks by Obama. I guess Obama sides with Morsi... is there any other way to see it?
 
2013-01-24 12:56:47 PM

tjfly: Clearly, this man, with a history of supporting the tenets of Sharia law, should be given F16s & tanks by Obama. I guess Obama sides with Morsi... is there any other way to see it?


He is siding with the free and mostly fair election results in Egypt.

Unfortunaelty his stance is very common in Egpt and to tuirn onhim for it woudl mean we would have to turn on almost any elected leader.

These kind of shennanigans should be called out, but it isn't enough to cut ties.
 
2013-01-24 12:58:58 PM

tjfly: Well, if it weren't for those pesky VIDEOS of Morsi calling Jews "pigs" and "bloodsuckers", he may have a point.
But NOW he's an anti-semite whpo apparently has no credibility.

Clearly, this man, with a history of supporting the tenets of Sharia law, should be given F16s & tanks by Obama. I guess Obama sides with Morsi... is there any other way to see it?


Wow. I had no idea that Obama has been president since 1979.
 
2013-01-24 01:06:00 PM

liam76: If assimilation was the greatest fear of Political Zionism and not persecution, why did persecution drive so many people to Political Zionism?


Once again the answers you seek are found in those you despise for their faithfulness to what all Jews should follow(aside from accepting Jesus Christ)in these probing questions: Ten questions to the Zionists
 
2013-01-24 01:06:52 PM

give me doughnuts: tjfly: Well, if it weren't for those pesky VIDEOS of Morsi calling Jews "pigs" and "bloodsuckers", he may have a point.
But NOW he's an anti-semite whpo apparently has no credibility.

Clearly, this man, with a history of supporting the tenets of Sharia law, should be given F16s & tanks by Obama. I guess Obama sides with Morsi... is there any other way to see it?

Wow. I had no idea that Obama has been president since 1979.


/huzzah
 
2013-01-24 01:27:43 PM

George Babbitt: liam76: If assimilation was the greatest fear of Political Zionism and not persecution, why did persecution drive so many people to Political Zionism?

Once again the answers you seek are found in those you despise for their faithfulness to what all Jews should follow(aside from accepting Jesus Christ)in these probing questions: Ten questions to the Zionists


upload.wikimedia.org


"Ben-Gurion returned to Palestine on the eve of World War II convinced that Britain would now never agree to a Jewish majority in Palestine. Immediately after his return he told a secret meeting of his party: ''If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.''

-- David Ben-Gurion - ÜberZionist and first Prime Minister of Israel

Quoted by famed historian Martin Gilbert - New York Times - June 21, 1987


/Small sacrifices
 
2013-01-24 01:37:28 PM

liam76: Hobodeluxe: liam76: So, to be a member of the US media you have to be jewish?

no that's a strawman.

Why are you cherry picking that line and ignoring what Amos said?

He compared Jews in Media to blacks in the congressional black caucus. For that comparison to be apt you would have to be jewish to be in the media.

There is no strawman in pointing out he is wrong, that you chose to sut that part out after I amde it very clear to you shows how dishonest you are.


Hobodeluxe: and if you go look at those companies and their board of directors,major stockholders and top executives you'd find that they are in a huge majority. nowhere close to the same ratio as the general population.

as for some vast conspiracy can you deny that these groups aren't trying to direct US policy in favor of Israel? That they aren't buying politicians and /or using their media to intimidate or coerce them? you'd be lying if you did. and you know it.

That sounds like a vast conspiracy. Especially when you are defending the claim that they "control" media.

Who are in "these groups"? Is it all jews? Do they have jew meeting where they get together and decide which politicians to buy?


Hobodeluxe: Now I could list a lot of the major media and bank people but we don't need to go that far. We all know I'm right about it. You just won't admit it.

Right about what?

Yes there are a lot of jews in media, yes there are a lot of jews in finance, you have yet to define "neocon" and what percent are jewish, but I will accept that many are jewish. So what?

Are all jews part of this mysterious group? Why can't you name this group?


Hobodeluxe: But move along , nothing to see here right?

We have a nutter who is hinting at jews being part of some nefarious "group", all to common for it to be a big something, but I wouldn't say it is nothing.


no not all Jews are Zionists,neocons or right-wing. Some are liberal,progressive and some are of different religions or even Atheists. but there is a faction of right wing,hardline Zionists that are dedicated to certain ideologies that want to control the US govt in order to do Israel's bidding even to the detriment of the US.
 
2013-01-24 01:41:16 PM

George Babbitt: liam76: If assimilation was the greatest fear of Political Zionism and not persecution, why did persecution drive so many people to Political Zionism?

Once again the answers you seek are found in those you despise for their faithfulness to what all Jews should follow(aside from accepting Jesus Christ)in these probing questions: Ten questions to the Zionists


They aren't probing.

1-IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:
a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and
b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and
c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.


This is the first time I have seen you in these threads, so I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just very ignorant, not a straight up anti-semite.

In 1941 they already had many jews in concentration camps where attrition rate was obscenely high, you honestly think they were given a choice to go to Spain?

How could you possibly call that a "probing question"?


As for the rest of them, in 1942 they were already building extermination camps. If peopel were building camops to work your peopel to death or straight up exterminate them and they told you give us all your money and we will send you womewhere safe, would you believe them?

Once again these aren't probing questions. These are straight up fantasies of people who are completely out of touch with reality and give way too much power toa shadowy group of evil jewish puppet masters. There is as much truth to them as there are peanuts in my turds.
 
2013-01-24 01:54:57 PM
t2.gstatic.com

To be fair...he hates and is an arsehole to everybody. He's just a miserable prick. It's not antisemitism if you hate everybody equally right?
 
2013-01-24 02:11:52 PM
Everyone's looking for something to be better-than.

Both racists and anti-racists, actually.

Blaming the Jews is just a convenient excuse for Al-Qaeda types and Democrats.
 
2013-01-24 02:12:34 PM

liam76: There is as much truth to them as there are peanuts in my turds.


Did you write this article---> Chewing Food Well Aids Digestion and Is Good For Dieters
FTA: "Recently I realized that for three consecutive days, I was chugging copious amounts of water to force bite-sized chunks of food down my throat and these episodes of near choking were followed by serious digestive distress. Perhaps it's time, I thought, to focus on chewing."
 
2013-01-24 02:13:41 PM

Hobodeluxe: no not all Jews are Zionists,neocons or right-wing. Some are liberal,progressive and some are of different religions or even Atheists. but there is a faction of right wing,hardline Zionists that are dedicated to certain ideologies that want to control the US govt in order to do Israel's bidding even to the detriment of the US


So if the groups you are talking about are zionists, why did you make accusations based on the amount of jews in media and banks?

You can't point out how many jews there are in all these places and make accusations about what that group wants to do, then say the group you are talking about is zionists or neocons and not jews. Well I guess you can, but it makes it pretty clear you are not being honest or optu of touch with reality.

Amos Quito: George Babbitt: liam76: If assimilation was the greatest fear of Political Zionism and not persecution, why did persecution drive so many people to Political Zionism?

Once again the answers you seek are found in those you despise for their faithfulness to what all Jews should follow(aside from accepting Jesus Christ)in these probing questions: Ten questions to the Zionists

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"Ben-Gurion returned to Palestine on the eve of World War II convinced that Britain would now never agree to a Jewish majority in Palestine. Immediately after his return he told a secret meeting of his party: ''If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.''

-- David Ben-Gurion - ÜberZionist and first Prime Minister of Israel

Quoted by famed historian Martin Gilbert - New York Times - June 21, 1987


/Small sacrifices


Are you unfamiliar with persecution prior to the Holocaust?

And once again if assimilation was the biggest fear of the average zionist during/post WWII, why did their number spike during that period?
 
2013-01-24 02:17:50 PM

liam76: If peopel were building camops to work your peopel to death or straight up exterminate them and they told you give us all your money and we will send you womewhere safe, would you believe them?


So, you admit that it's plausible that the offer was made? What you don't believe is that they would give up their money for a chance to save their own lives? BTW, they got the money anyways didn't they?

 
2013-01-24 02:17:59 PM

hugram: This guy's big mouth strikes again?


Yeah. He was only joking when he said he'd like to smash every tooth in the Jews' heads.
 
2013-01-24 02:20:19 PM

ciberido: hugram: This guy's big mouth strikes again?

Yeah. He was only joking when he said he'd like to smash every tooth in the Jews' heads.


damnit...somebody beat me to it..that's what i get for not reading the whole thread.
 
2013-01-24 02:20:56 PM

George Babbitt: generallyso: Why do people say 'anti-semite' instead of 'racist'?

Because no one wants to talk about the superiority complex that Jews have regarding everyone that isn't a Jew.


No, I call you an anti-Semite because for all I know your racism might be only limited to Jewish people. I mean, you might be racist against black people or Asians, too, for all I know, but if so I haven't seen it yet.

And I wouldn't want to paint with too broad a brush. Benefit of the doubt and all that.
 
2013-01-24 02:23:02 PM

Joe Blowme: TappingTheVein: George Babbitt: Actually there are some Jews that raise similar questions Ten questions to the Zionists by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L

Neturei Karta. They are jews like i'm Pope Benedict XV(*). They are a cult which ejaculate at the thought of the destruction of Israel and they will kiss the ass of anyone (literally anyone) who poses some kind of threat to Israel. There is a reason why they are despised by every other jewish organizations besides their own kind.

I wonder why Fark's resident anti-semite Amos Quito adores them. hmm.

/* i'm not Pope Benedict XV

I'm guessing he is a dhimmi or a full blown death cult member.


Damnitall so much. This "take a drink whenever Joe Blowme uses the word dhimmi" game is hell on my liver.
 
2013-01-24 02:25:13 PM

give me doughnuts: tjfly: Well, if it weren't for those pesky VIDEOS of Morsi calling Jews "pigs" and "bloodsuckers", he may have a point.
But NOW he's an anti-semite whpo apparently has no credibility.

Clearly, this man, with a history of supporting the tenets of Sharia law, should be given F16s & tanks by Obama. I guess Obama sides with Morsi... is there any other way to see it?

Wow. I had no idea that Obama has been president since 1979.


Have you forgotten about the time machine already? Does N0MGBama have a neuralizer now, too?
 
2013-01-24 02:30:50 PM

liam76: Are you unfamiliar with persecution prior to the Holocaust?


And again, I may return to Neturei Karta for the answer to your question:

"A prisoner is released only when he has served his time, or if he is pardoned by the President for good behavior. If he attempts escape and is apprehended, his term is lengthened, besides the beating he receives when he is caught.



Faithful Jews- for over three and one-half thousand years, in all parts of the world, through all trials, our grandfathers and grandmothers marched through seas of blood and tears in order to keep the Faith of the Torah unswervingly. If we have compassion for ourselves, for our women and children, and for the Jewish people, we will maintain our golden legacy today. We have been sentenced to exile by the King of Kings because of our sins. The eternal blessed be He, has decreed that we accept the exile with humble gratitude until the time comes, or until we merit His pardon through repentance if we seek to end the exile with force, G-d will catch us, as our sages have forewarned, and our sentence becomes longer and more difficult."


liam76And once again if assimilation was the biggest fear of the average zionist during/post WWII, why did their number spike during that period?


History shows us the repetition of those who would take what G-d has not given:

A look into history reveals that this very same type of "statesmen" opposed the call of Jeremiah the prophet to yield to the minions of Nebuchadnezzar at the destruction of the first Temple. Five centuries later, Rabbi Yochonon Ben Zakai appealed to the people to surrender to Titus the Roman to avoid bloodshed. The "statesmen" rejected this appeal, and the second Temple was destroyed by the Romans. --- And now for the past fifty years, the Zionist "statesmen" rebuff the leadership of our Sages; and continue in their policy of fomenting anti-Semitism. When will they stop?? Must every Jew in America also suffer?? - Even the Nazi monsters had more sense, and gave up their war before all Germany was destroyed. The Zionist "statesmen" ridicule the sacred oath which the Creator placed upon the Jews in the Diaspora. Our Torah, in Tractate Ksubos, folio 111, specifies that the Creator, blessed be He, swore the Jews not to occupy the Holy Land by force, even if it appears that they have the force to do so; and not rebel against the Nations. And the Creator warned that if His oath be desecrated, Jewish flesh would be "open property", like the animals in the forest!! These are words of our Torah; and these concepts have been cited in Maimonides' "Igeres Teimon", "Be'er HaGola", "Ahavas Yehonosson", and in "Toras Moshe" of the Chasam Sofer.


and as it is today:

Many times in the past have segments of our people been defrauded by false messiahs - but none of the false messiahs has been as fallacious and delusory as the lie of Zionism. With our historical experience as our guide, no retribution has been or will be greater than the retribution for giving credence to Zionism. If we wish our exile-sentence commuted, we must appeal through repentance; and through total physical and spiritual observance of the Sabbath, laws of family purity, and study of Torah.



Let it be clearly understood that never in Jewish history (even in the time of Jeroboam or Achav) have such hostile atheists stood at the helm of he Jewish people as today.

 
2013-01-24 02:32:20 PM

Amos Quito: Any Jew who objects to the insanity of Zionism MUST be insane, right?


Anyone who froths at the mouth of the prospect of a country's annihilation and the death of its people because it pleases his Deity sure is.

Amos Quito: Funny, prior to WWII and the Holocaust, the vast majority of Jews were "insane", by that definition, because they certainly wanted NO PART of the suicidally stupid Zionist scheme. In fact, were it not for Hitler and his sheep dogs nipping at the heels of the stubborn Jews, FORCING them to abandon their lives and head to the Promised Land, the Zionist scheme probably would have failed entirely.

Don't you think?


Ah, your Jews are behind Hitler's schemes conspiracy. Do go on. How many times have i debunked your bullshiat about this ? what's next ? you're going to claim that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion has truth in it ? oh wait..

Amos Quito: "Ben-Gurion returned to Palestine on the eve of World War II convinced that Britain would now never agree to a Jewish majority in Palestine. Immediately after his return he told a secret meeting of his party: ''If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.''

-- David Ben-Gurion - ÜberZionist and first Prime Minister of Israel

Quoted by famed historian Martin Gilbert - New York Times - June 21, 1987


/Small sacrifices


Utter and total lying out of context bullshiat already debunked in countless threads. You need new material.
 
2013-01-24 02:32:31 PM

George Babbitt: liam76: There is as much truth to them as there are peanuts in my turds.

Did you write this article---> Chewing Food Well Aids Digestion and Is Good For Dieters
FTA: "Recently I realized that for three consecutive days, I was chugging copious amounts of water to force bite-sized chunks of food down my throat and these episodes of near choking were followed by serious digestive distress. Perhaps it's time, I thought, to focus on chewing."


You missed my point. The truth in them (where there is any) is so miniscule it is not worth acknowledging.


George Babbitt: liam76: If peopel were building camops to work your peopel to death or straight up exterminate them and they told you give us all your money and we will send you womewhere safe, would you believe them?

So, you admit that it's plausible that the offer was made? What you don't believe is that they would give up their money for a chance to save their own lives? BTW, they got the money anyways didn't they?


Is it plausible? Yes, but once again, so what. You can't take a group that is throwing people like you in death and concentration camps at their word to take people like you somewhere safe. Are you kidding me? You really think a deal in those conditions is worth considering (if it were actually made).

If the offer was made why wouldn't the people in the camps have taken it? Nazi's already had their money? You think they chose to stay?

They got the money from people they captured, not from those that fled.


I don't know if you are a particularly stupid anti-semite or a troll, but hats off for topping Amos on insanely stupid things to say about the Holocaust. That isnt easy.
 
2013-01-24 02:38:46 PM

George Babbitt: And again, I may return to Neturei Karta for the answer to your question:


You mean the group you just referenced that I showed you was full of shiat?


George Babbitt: liam76: Are you unfamiliar with persecution prior to the Holocaust?

"A prisoner is released only when he has served his time, or if he is pardoned by the President for good behavior. If he attempts escape and is apprehended, his term is lengthened, besides the beating he receives when he is caught.


I don't care what those nutbags believe.

The questions is abotu jewis persecution. Yes it existed before the Holocaust, and the "prisoner" comparison shows even the tards you are quoting acknowledge bad stuff was happening to them.
 
2013-01-24 02:51:58 PM

TappingTheVein: Amos Quito: Any Jew who objects to the insanity of Zionism MUST be insane, right?

Anyone who froths at the mouth of the prospect of a country's annihilation and the death of its people because it pleases his Deity sure is.

Amos Quito: Funny, prior to WWII and the Holocaust, the vast majority of Jews were "insane", by that definition, because they certainly wanted NO PART of the suicidally stupid Zionist scheme. In fact, were it not for Hitler and his sheep dogs nipping at the heels of the stubborn Jews, FORCING them to abandon their lives and head to the Promised Land, the Zionist scheme probably would have failed entirely.

Don't you think?

Ah, your Jews are behind Hitler's schemes conspiracy. Do go on. How many times have i debunked your bullshiat about this ? what's next ? you're going to claim that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion has truth in it ? oh wait..

Amos Quito: "Ben-Gurion returned to Palestine on the eve of World War II convinced that Britain would now never agree to a Jewish majority in Palestine. Immediately after his return he told a secret meeting of his party: ''If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.''

-- David Ben-Gurion - ÜberZionist and first Prime Minister of Israel

Quoted by famed historian Martin Gilbert - New York Times - June 21, 1987


/Small sacrifices

Utter and total lying out of context bullshiat already debunked in countless threads. You need new material.


Tell Wikiquote that.
 
2013-01-24 02:53:30 PM

George Babbitt: Tell Wikiquote that.


You know how i know you skipped on the 'out of context' bit ?
 
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