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(NFL)   Jets owner Woody Johnson (giggity) wants to trade Sanchez and Tebow. Just kidding. He wants to trade Revis. Probably for the lulz   (nfl.com) divider line 34
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2013-01-24 09:03:41 AM  
Ah the Jets.  The gift that keeps on giving....

\starts humming Entrance of the Gladiators
 
2013-01-24 09:43:27 AM  
Jimmy Johnson and Woody Johnson. What's up with penis names in football?
 
2013-01-24 09:52:25 AM  
We saw glimmers of Woody's football prowess a few years ago when he lobbied for Brett Favre and then personally called Rex to insist on "more passing plays for Brett." With last off-season's needless Tebow trade and now this, I think he's overtaken Daniel Snyder in the Duning-Krueger Football Studies department.

It remains to be seen whether he can overtake Jerry for the crown.
 
2013-01-24 09:52:26 AM  
So is this a case of having to get rid of Revis in order to afford their commitment to their QB of the future, Sanchez?
 
2013-01-24 09:54:04 AM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2013-01-24 09:54:20 AM  

digistil: So is this a case of having to get rid of Revis in order to afford their commitment to their QB of the future, Sanchez?


Yes. Quarterbacks and New Nuclear Power Plants - Sunk Costs
 
2013-01-24 09:56:19 AM  
It's smart to trade Revis. By the time the Jets are competitive again, he'll be old, and also, he's really injury prone. They could probably get a 1st rounder for him right now. Honestly, it's a good move to trade him.
 
2013-01-24 09:59:20 AM  

Why Would I Read the Article: It's smart to trade Revis. By the time the Jets are competitive again, he'll be old, and also, he's really injury prone. They could probably get a 1st rounder for him right now. Honestly, it's a good move to trade him.


It's a smart move. Tessio was always smarter.
 
2013-01-24 10:00:18 AM  
Actually it's because Revis' agents keep demanding new deals or he'll holdout every year. At some point you can't be held hostage every year.
 
2013-01-24 10:03:29 AM  

Rapmaster2000: We saw glimmers of Woody's football prowess a few years ago when he lobbied for Brett Favre and then personally called Rex to insist on "more passing plays for Brett."


That was probably* Mangini, not Rex -- that was the season that got Mangini fired.

*unless you were thinking of the offensive coordinator or something
 
2013-01-24 10:07:41 AM  
Revis wants to be paid like a QB, not a cornerback.
 
2013-01-24 10:08:02 AM  

Arkanaut: Rapmaster2000: We saw glimmers of Woody's football prowess a few years ago when he lobbied for Brett Favre and then personally called Rex to insist on "more passing plays for Brett."

That was probably* Mangini, not Rex -- that was the season that got Mangini fired.

*unless you were thinking of the offensive coordinator or something


I probably mixed it up in my head. Now, I can't even find the damn article. But basically, it was related that Woody had taken to calling the coach and give him pointers on what to do about the offense. It remains to be seen if he drew up the "Everybody Go Out... Try to Get Open" play.
 
2013-01-24 10:09:13 AM  

Why Would I Read the Article: They could probably get a 1st rounder for him right now.


Nope. He's coming off major knee surgery AND is due to make $5-6M this year. The Jest are over the cap as it is, so they're not going to eat any of that money.
 
2013-01-24 10:10:52 AM  
The Vikings could use some secondary help, and Percy Harvin hasn't been very happy for a while now. Make it happen.
 
2013-01-24 10:13:40 AM  
I'm starting to really enjoy the Jets.
 
2013-01-24 10:15:12 AM  

Farkn Yaj Yenrac: The Vikings could use some secondary help, and Percy Harvin hasn't been very happy for a while now. Make it happen.


Replace one diva with another? No thanks. Though agreed with getting rid of Percy for a high rounder.
 
2013-01-24 10:21:51 AM  

Rapmaster2000: We saw glimmers of Woody's football prowess a few years ago when he lobbied for Brett Favre and then personally called Rex to insist on "more passing plays for Brett." With last off-season's needless Tebow trade and now this, I think he's overtaken Daniel Snyder in the Duning-Krueger Football Studies department.

It remains to be seen whether he can overtake Jerry for the crown.


No way. Jets' first call will be to Jerrah, who will tell us 'Uh...quite frankly...ummm...keeping in mind...candidly...didja like them three Super Bowls?!'
 
2013-01-24 10:26:45 AM  
Well, it would have been hilarious if he had said he had wanted to trade Sanchez and Tebow, because no other team would be willing to take them off his hands. Maybe, maybe some team would send him a conditional 6th/7th round pick for Tebow, but that's about it. Sanchez is completely untradeable with his contract.

As for Revis: they're over the cap and have to accept that somebody good is going to have to go. And Revis is the only one of their highly-compensated players who can get any kind of return in the trade market. If the right deal presents itself, they'd be wise to jump on it.
 
2013-01-24 10:38:28 AM  

Farkn Yaj Yenrac: The Vikings could use some secondary help, and Percy Harvin hasn't been very happy for a while now. Make it happen.


Snyder is insane and the Redskins have no secondary. If it wasn't for spending all the first founders to get RG3, Revis would be wearing Burgundy and Gold in 2013
 
2013-01-24 10:42:40 AM  

digistil: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: The Vikings could use some secondary help, and Percy Harvin hasn't been very happy for a while now. Make it happen.

Replace one diva with another? No thanks. Though agreed with getting rid of Percy for a high rounder.


Revis' diva activities mostly seem to revolve around him getting paid, Harvin's seem to revolve around him getting paid and the ball on every single play, run or pass. I'd take option A.

One way or the other I don't think there is much chance Harvin is going to be back next year, I'd really like it if they got a good corner in exchange. Failing that, a decent deep threat.
 
2013-01-24 11:03:38 AM  

LucklessWonder: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: The Vikings could use some secondary help, and Percy Harvin hasn't been very happy for a while now. Make it happen.

Snyder is insane and the Redskins have no secondary. If it wasn't for spending all the first founders to get RG3, Revis would be wearing Burgundy and Gold in 2013


The Skins have first rounders again in 2016 or -17, I believe. They could use those for Revis.

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2013-01-24 11:05:10 AM  

Farkn Yaj Yenrac: digistil: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: The Vikings could use some secondary help, and Percy Harvin hasn't been very happy for a while now. Make it happen.

Replace one diva with another? No thanks. Though agreed with getting rid of Percy for a high rounder.

Revis' diva activities mostly seem to revolve around him getting paid, Harvin's seem to revolve around him getting paid and the ball on every single play, run or pass. I'd take option A.

One way or the other I don't think there is much chance Harvin is going to be back next year, I'd really like it if they got a good corner in exchange. Failing that, a decent deep threat.


So you want the Vikings already inept passing game to get even more inept? Getting revis won't help them score points and they're one dimensional as it is, as was proven in the playoffs. AP can't do everything (can he?)
 
2013-01-24 11:08:29 AM  
I'm sorry, but the Jets have to nuke it and go into rebuilding mode. They had their shots with multiple AFC championship games but they blew it. Step one is trading your best/slightly overpaid players who won't be worth it 3 years from now for future draft picks. Plus Revis is coming back from a disastrous injury, one that he can fully recover from, so he might not be worth the risk to the Jets.

Might as well start rebuilding a receiver core for when they draft an actual quarterback. Santonio isn't worth market value when you have a shiatty sunk cost quarterback. Green isn't going to have the shelf life to last 3 more years so find a cheap work horse backup like a Snelling type.

I don't know anything, I know. The Jets "experts" didn't pan out either so these are my opinions.
 
2013-01-24 11:10:56 AM  
Sanchez and Tebow combined couldn;'t get a 4th rounder, Revis coming off a majory injury could get him a 3rd rounder easy and possibly a second (I don;t agree he's worth a first coming off injury).

Of course he wants to trade him.

Oh and

Farkn Yaj Yenrac: digistil: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: The Vikings could use some secondary help, and Percy Harvin hasn't been very happy for a while now. Make it happen.

Replace one diva with another? No thanks. Though agreed with getting rid of Percy for a high rounder.

Revis' diva activities mostly seem to revolve around him getting paid, Harvin's seem to revolve around him getting paid and the ball on every single play, run or pass. I'd take option A.

One way or the other I don't think there is much chance Harvin is going to be back next year, I'd really like it if they got a good corner in exchange. Failing that, a decent deep threat.


Percy is going to be in year 4 of his 5 year contract. He can pout all he wants, he isn;t going anywhere.

Percy is a great weapon.... yet he is not the answer at receiver. We're so busy getting all tricky with him, we still don;t have people who can run a decent route AND get seperation. If we could get good value for him, I would be all about trading him.

Is Revis even a cover 2 guy? I am thinking not.
 
2013-01-24 12:47:30 PM  

natural316: So you want the Vikings already inept passing game to get even more inept? Getting revis won't help them score points and they're one dimensional as it is, as was proven in the playoffs. AP can't do everything (can he?)


Percy Harvin was on IR during the entire Vikings playoff push at the end of the regular season with a sprained uvula or some other made up crap to cover up for what I assume was his refusal to play. The Vikings D can stop the run and the pass rush is good, but their coverage is lacking. I did say that that a deep threat would also be a good trade.

Jim from Saint Paul:
Percy is going to be in year 4 of his 5 year contract. He can pout all he wants, he isn;t going anywhere.

Percy is a great weapon.... yet he is not the answer at receiver. We're so busy getting all tricky with him, we still don;t have people who can run a decent route AND get seperation. If we could get good value for him, I would be all about trading him.

Is Revis even a cover 2 guy? I am thinking not.


He is a free agent after next season, they have to deal him soon or they get nothing. I'm not saying Revis is the answer, but a cover corner would be huge against Marshall and Johnson, especially. The Packers would be another story with all their WRs, but it would be a good start.
I would say the Vikings have a couple guys that can run a decent route and get separation, the problem is that you have to catch the ball after you do that.
 
2013-01-24 01:02:24 PM  

thecpt: I'm sorry, but the Jets have to nuke it and go into rebuilding mode.


No, no no.

Much better for them to chase shiny objects around the NFL for the next ten years.

Much better for a Dolphins fan, that is.
 
2013-01-24 01:09:46 PM  
He can have Browner and a 2nd for him.
 
2013-01-24 01:14:19 PM  

seumasokelly: He can have Browner and a 2nd for him.


Hm. Well, the Hawks aren't in much of a position to add significant salaries, since they're looking to roll over as much cap room as they can for when they need to resign guys on their first contracts.

On the other hand: Revis, Sherman and Thomas on the same team? Damn. Abandon any hope of passing against this team, ever. And running against them might not be such a great option either, considering how often they can stack 8 in the box.
 
2013-01-24 01:27:44 PM  

Super Chronic: seumasokelly: He can have Browner and a 2nd for him.

Hm. Well, the Hawks aren't in much of a position to add significant salaries, since they're looking to roll over as much cap room as they can for when they need to resign guys on their first contracts.

On the other hand: Revis, Sherman and Thomas on the same team? Damn. Abandon any hope of passing against this team, ever. And running against them might not be such a great option either, considering how often they can stack 8 in the box.


I'll just go with "no thanks." Browner and Sherman combined make a quarter of what Revis gets. Revis, even if healthy, isn't that much of an improvement. Their big problem is when they go zone anyway.
 
2013-01-24 01:37:42 PM  

Farkn Yaj Yenrac: He is a free agent after next season, they have to deal him soon or they get nothing


Also, the Jets have to dump salary. Every team in the league knows this, so the Jets won't get a first or even a second for Revis. Maybe a third for a team with cap room. I'm guessing a fourth-rounder for someone who is willing to take on $6M and roll the dice that his knee is fully healed. If his knee is OK, that could be a steal this year, but if he comes back, then he's going to want to get paid more in 2014.

Lots of factors here suggest the Jets aren't going to get much in trade value for him.
 
2013-01-24 01:47:51 PM  

Farkn Yaj Yenrac: .
I would say the Vikings have a couple guys that can run a decent route and get separation, the problem is that you have to catch the ball after you do that.


Who? Aromoshadu? Jenkins? They are guys who can find holes in zones, Jenkins more then Arom. Simpson? For a fast guy, he sure was slow.

The only guy who could get seperation was Rudolph. Unless we plan to line him up at wideout he aint an answer.

Wright only got open twice in 7 games. The first was a fluke since, really, since when did we have anyone who could do that... so the Lions safteys cheated up.

So maybe Wright? Maybe?
 
2013-01-24 01:48:59 PM  

IAmRight: Super Chronic: seumasokelly: He can have Browner and a 2nd for him.

Hm. Well, the Hawks aren't in much of a position to add significant salaries, since they're looking to roll over as much cap room as they can for when they need to resign guys on their first contracts.

On the other hand: Revis, Sherman and Thomas on the same team? Damn. Abandon any hope of passing against this team, ever. And running against them might not be such a great option either, considering how often they can stack 8 in the box.

I'll just go with "no thanks." Browner and Sherman combined make a quarter of what Revis gets. Revis, even if healthy, isn't that much of an improvement. Their big problem is when they go zone anyway.


Fair enough. I forgot about the knee and the headache.
 
2013-01-24 02:23:35 PM  
Revis should say the hell with this team, and write a note on a napkin for Woody Johnson: "I resign as CB for NYJ".
 
2013-01-24 04:03:03 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: .
I would say the Vikings have a couple guys that can run a decent route and get separation, the problem is that you have to catch the ball after you do that.

Who? Aromoshadu? Jenkins? They are guys who can find holes in zones, Jenkins more then Arom. Simpson? For a fast guy, he sure was slow.

The only guy who could get seperation was Rudolph. Unless we plan to line him up at wideout he aint an answer.

Wright only got open twice in 7 games. The first was a fluke since, really, since when did we have anyone who could do that... so the Lions safteys cheated up.

So maybe Wright? Maybe?


It sounds to me like you answered your own question, I didn't say any of them were anything special. Besides that, once Peterson got going the Vikings barely even looked downfield. There weren't many opportunities for the WRs to show their stuff and on the rare occasion that they were passing and Ponder didn't miss the throw, they couldn't find the handle.
Also, while I think it's great the way Kyle Rudolph came on strong this year, saying that a guy with a 4.78 40 time is getting separation is a stretch. He found room, but he is not a WR.
 
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