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(Huffington Post)   High school kids name classmate with Williams' syndrome homecoming king: "He's the star of this school." Damnit, who released the dust bomb in here?   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 62
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2013-01-24 04:22:01 AM
If I had 13 thumbs up to give ... as it is- I can only do it once. Damn kids doing good. It is rather dusty in here, subby.
 
2013-01-24 05:48:14 AM
i dont care if its subbys first green or 500th. this is good mainpage material. vote yes if you agree. ty.
 
2013-01-24 08:09:17 AM
He's black and good at tennis?
 
2013-01-24 08:12:04 AM

alienated: i dont care if its subbys first green or 500th. this is good mainpage material. vote yes if you agree. ty.


#170, but who's counting?

/subby
 
2013-01-24 08:17:53 AM
While it is sweet and all, I have to wonder why he is in a normal school. Does he even have a snowball's chance in hell to graduate? Is he not holding back the class?
 
2013-01-24 08:24:03 AM
Sounds patronizing.
 
2013-01-24 08:25:38 AM

lucksi: While it is sweet and all, I have to wonder why he is in a normal school. Does he even have a snowball's chance in hell to graduate? Is he not holding back the class?


Because over the years, the role of schools has been expanded as services to disabled children have disappeared. Think of it as a very expensive babysitting job.
 
2013-01-24 08:32:27 AM
Most schools have gone to the inclusion model both to save costs and because some of the special needs kids do indeed benefit from the "normal" curriculum.

The comments thread there is fun, someone is trying so hard to fight but no one seems to be interested.
 
2013-01-24 08:34:03 AM

lucksi: While it is sweet and all, I have to wonder why he is in a normal school. Does he even have a snowball's chance in hell to graduate? Is he not holding back the class?


Normal schools have special ed classes too. Mine did and that was in the 80's.
 
2013-01-24 08:34:16 AM

Chabash: lucksi: While it is sweet and all, I have to wonder why he is in a normal school. Does he even have a snowball's chance in hell to graduate? Is he not holding back the class?

Because over the years, the role of schools has been expanded as services to disabled children have disappeared. Think of it as a very expensive babysitting job.


DRTA but depending on the disability, going to a 'normal' school can be beneficial in helping those with disabilities learn social skills they most likely won't get elsewhere.

FWIW, the HS in my town voted a couple with Down's syndrome their homecoming King and Queen.
 
2013-01-24 08:34:49 AM

lucksi: While it is sweet and all, I have to wonder why he is in a normal school. Does he even have a snowball's chance in hell to graduate? Is he not holding back the class?


The teacher or a special needs paraprofessional normally modifies the assignments for the special needs kid. At this point, special needs kids are kept in the mainstream classroom unless their behavior creates an unnecessary and excessive amount of distraction OR they pose a significant physical danger to themselves or others.

/special needs para
// just had one of my kids removed from my case load because of her behavior
 
2013-01-24 08:37:23 AM
Luckily before they could do anything bad, teachers removed John Travolta and Nancy Allen from under the stage stairs.
 
2013-01-24 08:43:19 AM
Also, the inclusion method is implemented for most special needs kids to encourage the development of socialization skills as well as (at least at the high school level) skills that allow them to adapt their disability to real-ife situations (i.e., learning how to be independent).

Is inclusion perfect? No. But if done well, it teaches the kid both the topics covered in class as wellas coping strategies so that they don't go through life using their disability as an excuse.
 
2013-01-24 08:45:43 AM
Special ed kids getting preferential treatment trifecta in play!
 
2013-01-24 08:49:47 AM
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2013-01-24 08:51:57 AM

sonofslacker: Chabash: lucksi: While it is sweet and all, I have to wonder why he is in a normal school. Does he even have a snowball's chance in hell to graduate? Is he not holding back the class?

Because over the years, the role of schools has been expanded as services to disabled children have disappeared. Think of it as a very expensive babysitting job.

DRTA but depending on the disability, going to a 'normal' school can be beneficial in helping those with disabilities learn social skills they most likely won't get elsewhere.

FWIW, the HS in my town voted a couple with Down's syndrome their homecoming King and Queen.


You are absolutely right, "Learning social skills they most likely wouldn't get elsewhere." But why aren't they able to get those skills elsewhere? Because the programs and services that provided them don't exist anymore and the schools are having to pick up the slack.
 
2013-01-24 08:52:49 AM
Inclusion also teaches the non-SN kids how to cope with people who aren't like them. My son is autistic and is in a regular classroom. All the SN kids at his school are mainstreamed.

In two weeks, his services coordinator and I are doing a lesson for the class (kindergarten) on autism so they understand a bit more why he acts the way he does, because he has become a bit of a target. Academically, though, he's at the top of the class so he definitely isn't holding anyone back.
 
2013-01-24 08:53:20 AM
Homecoming in January? When did this story actually take place?
And does a 10 paragraph blog entry really need 4 different links to the same ABC News video?

/Good on the kids at the school, though.
 
2013-01-24 08:54:40 AM
gadian

Sounds patronizing.

I guess I am not the only cynical bastard in here. It is hard to tell if they do this in a mocking manner or they are doing it under good intentions. Kids are arseholes.
 
2013-01-24 08:55:08 AM
This is being done so often these days, that the title of homecoming king/queen seems to be reserved for the retarded.[1] Just like Secretary of State and EPA Administrator have become jobs for women.[2]


[1] Before hate on that term, I would refer you to ARC, the National Association for Retarded Citizens.

[2] No, John Kerry's nomination to be Secretary of State would not be an exception to this.
 
2013-01-24 08:57:35 AM

lucksi: While it is sweet and all, I have to wonder why he is in a normal school. Does he even have a snowball's chance in hell to graduate? Is he not holding back the class?


In my school district, the special needs kids go to regular high school (or middle, elementary) but attend classes for special needs. They can stay until they turn 21, essentially they're "seniors" for 2-3 years.

I think some really big school districts near my (like Dallas) have schools just for special needs.
 
2013-01-24 09:01:10 AM
I think this is all stupid.

Make a separate award for retarded kids to feel good. This is penalizing the studly guys and hot ladies who don't stand a chance because they have the right number of chromosomes. It is discrimination.

Derp King? Potato Queen? That would be fine.
 
2013-01-24 09:05:48 AM
Did the football team let the handicapped kid score a touchdown, too?

Nothing better than disguised pity and condescending achievements!
 
2013-01-24 09:11:09 AM

foo monkey: He's black and good at tennis?


Maybe they were afraid if they didn't vote him in he throw his tennis racket at them, refuse to shake hands,and then storm off.
 
2013-01-24 09:20:24 AM
When did High School kids start being nice to each other? Homecoming is supposed to look like this:

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2013-01-24 09:22:49 AM

drb9: Before hate on that term, I would refer you to ARC, the National Association for Retarded Citizens.


Um ... it's The Arc now. Has been for over twenty years.

With that being said, I'm also not a fan of stuff like this. Everyone screaming about inclusion needs to realize that involves failure and rejection. Oh, wait, they won't let normal kids experience that, my mistake ...
 
2013-01-24 09:26:38 AM
Sweet story, but the kid looks a lot like Mick Jagger.
 
2013-01-24 09:36:57 AM
I believe this article was more about the kids who withdrew so Scotty could win. And they're pretty bright - high school is not the best time of your life, and if that's when you peak the rest of your life is going to suck. I'm sure when they get together years later they will remember fondly making that other kid's day, sipping delicious beverages on the veranda. [Translation - I'd bet money they are successful in life]

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2013-01-24 09:37:34 AM

lucksi: While it is sweet and all, I have to wonder why he is in a normal school. Does he even have a snowball's chance in hell to graduate? Is he not holding back the class?


I just read about Williams' Syndrome in Wikipedia. Their average IQ is around 70 (borderline), but their verbal abilities, despite being delayed, can be "impressive." And they have a much higher chance of having "perfect pitch." And a few other things in there. He may be one of those kids who's closer to the upper bounds of IQ for someone with his condition.
 
2013-01-24 09:38:10 AM

tommyboy923: Sweet story, but the kid looks a lot like Mick Jagger.


Maybe Mick Jagger has a milder form of Williams'. You never know.
 
2013-01-24 09:40:35 AM

tommyboy923: Sweet story, but the kid looks a lot like Mick Jagger.


Hahahahahaha! Too awesome.
 
2013-01-24 09:45:05 AM

xanadian: lucksi: While it is sweet and all, I have to wonder why he is in a normal school. Does he even have a snowball's chance in hell to graduate? Is he not holding back the class?

I just read about Williams' Syndrome in Wikipedia. Their average IQ is around 70 (borderline), but their verbal abilities, despite being delayed, can be "impressive." And they have a much higher chance of having "perfect pitch." And a few other things in there. He may be one of those kids who's closer to the upper bounds of IQ for someone with his condition.


So a Forest Gump who can't run fast and is nowhere near as lucky?
 
2013-01-24 09:48:00 AM

tommyboy923: Sweet story, but the kid looks a lot like Mick Jagger.


But Scotty doesn't know, Scotty doesn't know
 
2013-01-24 09:48:54 AM

Thunderpipes: I think this is all stupid.

Make a separate award for retarded kids to feel good. This is penalizing the studly guys and hot ladies who don't stand a chance because they have the right number of chromosomes. It is discrimination.

Derp King? Potato Queen? That would be fine.


All that hate's gonna burn you up inside.
 
2013-01-24 09:57:12 AM
Rather unique disorder. My girlfriend of 4+ years has it and I knew her back in high school. She got lucky and doesn't express much of the heart/blood vessel ailments common to Williams. It's a mixed bag and technically you are considered to have it if your elastin (ELN gene) is gone/damaged. The syndrome is a "deletion" of around 20 or so genes on chromosome 7. The genetic test simply looks for the lack of the ELN gene. Only recent studies have looked at the other genes.

You wouldn't know or suspect until you talk to her. At times she can seem a little too friendly and open. As such she can sometimes cross into the uncanny valley.

/When i took her to meet my grandparents the first story she told them was about sex.
//I am a weird guy to begin with so it works out.
 
2013-01-24 09:59:34 AM
Treating someone special because of disease is still defining that person by their disease. Treat him normally.
 
2013-01-24 09:59:52 AM

MidnightSkulker: Inclusion also teaches the non-SN kids how to cope with people who aren't like them. My son is autistic and is in a regular classroom. All the SN kids at his school are mainstreamed.

In two weeks, his services coordinator and I are doing a lesson for the class (kindergarten) on autism so they understand a bit more why he acts the way he does, because he has become a bit of a target. Academically, though, he's at the top of the class so he definitely isn't holding anyone back.


How old is your son? My 11 year old son is an Aspie (or high functioning autism, depending on who you ask). He
has done very well socially so far, largely because he's big sweet teddy bear. He's a big kid so that minimizes any
physical bullying. He's also made a lot of friends because of his attitude - friends that he's had since kindergarten -
and they look out for him.

He does get picked on some but he doesn't like to tell me about it. Fortunately one of his best friends is over at
the house all the time and lets me know when it happens.
 
2013-01-24 10:01:16 AM

Claude the Dog: Thunderpipes: I think this is all stupid.

Make a separate award for retarded kids to feel good. This is penalizing the studly guys and hot ladies who don't stand a chance because they have the right number of chromosomes. It is discrimination.

Derp King? Potato Queen? That would be fine.

All that hate's gonna burn you up inside.


Nah, I am fine. All the derp is going to make our society like a giant Fark, but I will be long dead and I am teaching my kids how to pretend to be derpy derp liberals on the outside, while remaining normal on the inside.

Imagine if other animals not only accepted, but encouraged physical and mental problems to thrive? Do we really need armies of retarded polar bears or wolves roaming the country, eating people with a derptastic smile on their face and an elven appearance?
 
2013-01-24 10:03:32 AM

VenomousDuck: Most schools have gone to the inclusion model both to save costs and because some of the special needs kids do indeed benefit from the "normal" curriculum.

The comments thread there is fun, someone is trying so hard to fight but no one seems to be interested.


Also (as shown in this article), regular kids benefit from interacting with kids that have special needs.
 
2013-01-24 10:10:54 AM

xanadian: lucksi: While it is sweet and all, I have to wonder why he is in a normal school. Does he even have a snowball's chance in hell to graduate? Is he not holding back the class?

I just read about Williams' Syndrome in Wikipedia. Their average IQ is around 70 (borderline), but their verbal abilities, despite being delayed, can be "impressive." And they have a much higher chance of having "perfect pitch." And a few other things in there. He may be one of those kids who's closer to the upper bounds of IQ for someone with his condition.


So, the kid could sing a perfect rendition of "never had friend like me?"
 
2013-01-24 10:15:47 AM
Too bad he didn't have Vrolik syndrome. He would be the best damn pilot in the Alliance.
 
2013-01-24 10:19:53 AM
This story gives me hope for the future. My kids are in high school and they seem to have none-to-very-little of the clique warfare I remember. No-one bugs each other for no reason. By and large it seems the jocks and beautiful people have grown some empathy since the '80s, which is pretty cool.

The kid who won obviously has many friends who like him and look out for him, and the people who would have normally won know they have a brighter future ahead of them, so why get wrapped up in the silliness of high school?

WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THIS WORLD? MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING ALONG!!?!?!

/I'm getting old and a little confused...
 
2013-01-24 10:29:26 AM

fickenchucker: This story gives me hope for the future. My kids are in high school and they seem to have none-to-very-little of the clique warfare I remember. No-one bugs each other for no reason. By and large it seems the jocks and beautiful people have grown some empathy since the '80s, which is pretty cool.

The kid who won obviously has many friends who like him and look out for him, and the people who would have normally won know they have a brighter future ahead of them, so why get wrapped up in the silliness of high school?

WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THIS WORLD? MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING ALONG!!?!?!

/I'm getting old and a little confused...


And when your kids get into the real world, they have no competitive spirit, no drive, and will be mediocre, get free stuff, and not contribute. This is reflected in the huge drop in kids' performance over the years in every category but texting speed and manners.

Your kids are taught to conform, that being bad is okay, and it is wrong to be better than anyone else. Good lessons, those.
 
2013-01-24 10:32:34 AM

mizkc: I believe this article was more about the kids who withdrew so Scotty could win. And they're pretty bright - high school is not the best time of your life, and if that's when you peak the rest of your life is going to suck. I'm sure when they get together years later they will remember fondly making that other kid's day, sipping delicious beverages on the veranda. [Translation - I'd bet money they are successful in life]

Attractive and successful?

 
2013-01-24 10:49:17 AM

Thunderpipes: fickenchucker: This story gives me hope for the future. My kids are in high school and they seem to have none-to-very-little of the clique warfare I remember. No-one bugs each other for no reason. By and large it seems the jocks and beautiful people have grown some empathy since the '80s, which is pretty cool.

The kid who won obviously has many friends who like him and look out for him, and the people who would have normally won know they have a brighter future ahead of them, so why get wrapped up in the silliness of high school?

WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THIS WORLD? MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING ALONG!!?!?!

/I'm getting old and a little confused...

And when your kids get into the real world, they have no competitive spirit, no drive, and will be mediocre, get free stuff, and not contribute. This is reflected in the huge drop in kids' performance over the years in every category but texting speed and manners.

Your kids are taught to conform, that being bad is okay, and it is wrong to be better than anyone else. Good lessons, those.


Explain Finland.
 
2013-01-24 10:58:30 AM

Thunderpipes: xanadian: lucksi: While it is sweet and all, I have to wonder why he is in a normal school. Does he even have a snowball's chance in hell to graduate? Is he not holding back the class?

I just read about Williams' Syndrome in Wikipedia. Their average IQ is around 70 (borderline), but their verbal abilities, despite being delayed, can be "impressive." And they have a much higher chance of having "perfect pitch." And a few other things in there. He may be one of those kids who's closer to the upper bounds of IQ for someone with his condition.

So a Forest Gump who can't run fast and is nowhere near as lucky?


You've really been phoning it in, lately. This shiat is weak.
 
2013-01-24 10:58:38 AM

czei: When did High School kids start being nice to each other? Homecoming is supposed to look like this:

[img2.timeinc.net image 510x767]


Like an unfortunate remake of a classic movie?  Real Carrie is not amused...

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2013-01-24 11:01:26 AM

Thunderpipes: fickenchucker: This story gives me hope for the future. My kids are in high school and they seem to have none-to-very-little of the clique warfare I remember. No-one bugs each other for no reason. By and large it seems the jocks and beautiful people have grown some empathy since the '80s, which is pretty cool.

The kid who won obviously has many friends who like him and look out for him, and the people who would have normally won know they have a brighter future ahead of them, so why get wrapped up in the silliness of high school?

WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THIS WORLD? MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING ALONG!!?!?!

/I'm getting old and a little confused...

And when your kids get into the real world, they have no competitive spirit, no drive, and will be mediocre, get free stuff, and not contribute. This is reflected in the huge drop in kids' performance over the years in every category but texting speed and manners.

Your kids are taught to conform, that being bad is okay, and it is wrong to be better than anyone else. Good lessons, those.


Then you don't know me at all. I view my job as a dad to teach them the world is out to get them and they had better get good grades in order to keep their options open. On one hand they're taught to be nice to the kids who are weirder than they are, and on the other I encourage them to be suspect of everyone and everything out in the real world.

They both have good grades, are almost Eagle Scouts, play on the high school baseball team, and realize they have to pay their own freight when they become adults. What you term conforming is what I term learning the system and playing it to their advantage. They're not happy being bad, as you say, and realize participation trophies are society's way of dumbing down our children. When their Little League team won first place a few years back they were extremely happy. The next year when the team didn't do so well they understood there's no glory for fourth place.

But at the ame time, the guys who won first place weren't complete trash-talking dicks, which was my point. Much of the youth assholicity seems to be waning, which is a good thing.

Too bad it piled up on you. Cary that torch, you crazy diamond!
 
2013-01-24 11:09:15 AM
These kinds of PR stunts may seem all "ah golly gee that's swell". But in reality it hurts the normal kids. It sends the message of why try hard to excell and be the best you can be, maybe even better than others? When some potato, who didn't do crap but show up, with the help of others, can just come along and swipe away credit where credit is due! Its the normal kids that have a chance of growing up to become people that will support and maybe even run this country someday.
 
2013-01-24 11:12:51 AM
The Williams Syndrome turns you into a spastic blithering idiot.   It's named after it's most famous aflictee Robin Williams
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