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2013-01-24 08:38:46 AM  
FTFA: Unlike those who operate solely in the arenas of commentary, opinion and philosophy, Republicans in Washington bear the responsibility and burden of actual governance, where ideological purity must often yield to compromise

So get rid of the Tea Tards?
 
2013-01-24 08:43:02 AM  
That superfluous comma in the headline is really bothering me. "GOP, play offense in Obama's second term" - what does that even mean?
 
2013-01-24 09:17:31 AM  
Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume.

Or such views are the product of the greatest income inequality in modern American history, extraordinarily high college tuition costs that result in a job with a low starting salary and terrible benefits -- if graduation leads to a job at all. Meanwhile, these 18-29 year olds, who generally don't live and breathe RW news, look across the pond at those evil socialist countries with their free or near free healthcare, free or near free college, observe their citizens live longer and happier lives while they move up the social ladder with much greater ease.

Or it's the movies. Whatevs.
 
2013-01-24 09:35:20 AM  
Throws an interception deep in left field

You're mixing your sports metaphors

/Or is that the joke? I dunno I haven't had coffee yet
 
2013-01-24 09:42:25 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume.

Or such views are the product of the greatest income inequality in modern American history, extraordinarily high college tuition costs that result in a job with a low starting salary and terrible benefits -- if graduation leads to a job at all. Meanwhile, these 18-29 year olds, who generally don't live and breathe RW news, look across the pond at those evil socialist countries with their free or near free healthcare, free or near free college, observe their citizens live longer and happier lives while they move up the social ladder with much greater ease.

Or it's the movies. Whatevs.


This. If I have a positive view of socialism it's because over the 30 years of my life, capitalism has done nothing but piss on my head and tell me it's raining.

I wasn't born on 3rd base with a silver spoon, so capitalism to me is nothing but the reason I have to pay more taxes while the rich get tax cuts.
 
2013-01-24 09:46:16 AM  
The roots of our cultural and educational outreach must be as far reaching as the left's. This means broadening our scope of influence outside Fox News and conservative talk radio and into the left's strongholds of Hollywood and higher education. Perhaps some of the hundreds of millions of dollars spent on PACs could be better spent taking back the culture.

So waste hundreds of millions on bad movies no one will watch rather than bad candidates no one will like?
 
2013-01-24 09:47:09 AM  
Republicans in Washington bear the responsibility and burden of actual governance, where ideological purity must often yield to compromise.

What? Which game has this farkstick been watching? Maybe he thinks "compromise" means "Well, we didn't actually blow up the world economy."
 
2013-01-24 09:47:50 AM  

RexTalionis: That superfluous comma in the headline is really bothering me. "GOP, play offense in Obama's second term" - what does that even mean?


It transforms the statement to an imperative communication. "GOP" to get the GOP's attention, then followed by the instruction. Without the comma, it is a descriptive sentence that lacks proper grammatical support, ie: "The GOP will play offense..."
 
2013-01-24 09:48:56 AM  

starsrift: RexTalionis: That superfluous comma in the headline is really bothering me. "GOP, play offense in Obama's second term" - what does that even mean?

It transforms the statement to an imperative communication. "GOP" to get the GOP's attention, then followed by the instruction. Without the comma, it is a descriptive sentence that lacks proper grammatical support, ie: "The GOP will play offense..."


oh fark me running
 
2013-01-24 09:50:31 AM  
FTFA: Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume. We must change those cultural institutions before we can truly change our political institutions in the long term.

I can feel the butthurt oozing off of the author from this paragraph alone. Cry a little more please. I enjoy it.
 
2013-01-24 09:50:43 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume.

Or such views are the product of the greatest income inequality in modern American history, extraordinarily high college tuition costs that result in a job with a low starting salary and terrible benefits -- if graduation leads to a job at all. Meanwhile, these 18-29 year olds, who generally don't live and breathe RW news, look across the pond at those evil socialist countries with their free or near free healthcare, free or near free college, observe their citizens live longer and happier lives while they move up the social ladder with much greater ease.

Or it's the movies. Whatevs.


Done in three.

/That's right, I spell my numbers. Dealwithit.jpg
 
2013-01-24 09:51:27 AM  
Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume. We must change those cultural institutions before we can truly change our political institutions in the long term.

Actually they've seen the abject failure of capitalism to serve most of our society and are invulnerable to indoctrination of the type that labels different economic philosophies as "evil".

That said, I'm endlessly pleased that the best minds the GOP has think the cause is "DA TV DID IT", and will be wasting tons of time and effort on changing the entertainment industry. Which is completely capitalist, thus increasing my amusement.
 
2013-01-24 09:52:19 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: The roots of our cultural and educational outreach must be as far reaching as the left's. This means broadening our scope of influence outside Fox News and conservative talk radio and into the left's strongholds of Hollywood and higher education. Perhaps some of the hundreds of millions of dollars spent on PACs could be better spent taking back the culture.

So waste hundreds of millions on bad movies no one will watch rather than bad candidates no one will like?


When do you think they will realize that no matter how many times they repackage it, no one is ever going to willingly accept a steaming pile of bullshiat? Even if it does have a bow on it, its still bullshiat.
 
2013-01-24 09:52:24 AM  
the taxes of almost all Americans have risen, along with many of their health care premiums.

Ah, I see we're sticking with that particular line of bullshiat. That's nice. But really here's what I wanted to comment on:

Consequences of big government
The American people must realize for what they voted when they re-elected Obama and a Democratic-controlled Senate.


If conservatives actually believed what they spout, they would let the (D)'s govern. They would put up less resistance for this very reason. Because in 8 years of (D)'s in charge, the conservatives say our taxes will skyrocket our economy will fail and yadda yadda. The reason they don't, the reason they're obstructionist, is because they think the (D) policies will actually work.
 
2013-01-24 09:52:36 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: The roots of our cultural and educational outreach must be as far reaching as the left's. This means broadening our scope of influence outside Fox News and conservative talk radio and into the left's strongholds of Hollywood and higher education. Perhaps some of the hundreds of millions of dollars spent on PACs could be better spent taking back the culture.

So waste hundreds of millions on bad movies no one will watch rather than bad candidates no one will like?


It's not the ideology that's the problem, it's the messaging. They just need to package it differently and BAM! young people, women, minorities and the LGBT community will all turn hard right. deal_with_it.jpg.

It's really stunning how hard they're not getting it.
 
2013-01-24 09:52:39 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume.

Or such views are the product of the greatest income inequality in modern American history, extraordinarily high college tuition costs that result in a job with a low starting salary and terrible benefits -- if graduation leads to a job at all. Meanwhile, these 18-29 year olds, who generally don't live and breathe RW news, look across the pond at those evil socialist countries with their free or near free healthcare, free or near free college, observe their citizens live longer and happier lives while they move up the social ladder with much greater ease.

Or it's the movies. Whatevs.


It also probably relates to the (ab)use of the term "socialism" to mean everything apart from giving every penny of the nations income to the top 1%.

Not being left on the streets to starve when you are temporarily out of a job - socialism!
Not leaving kids born to irresponsible parents to die - socialism!
Not locking off all poor children out of the education system - socialism!
Creating a public road system for everyone to use without usage tolls - socialism!
Majority of Europeans having access to decent healthcare without bankrupting themselves - socialism!

If you keep at that long enough, you stop making {policy I don't like because I don't directly benefit from it right now} look bad by using the scary "socialism" word, and instead the word starts to become understood by lots of people as meaning "the good parts of what the government does".
 
2013-01-24 09:56:17 AM  

RexTalionis: That superfluous comma in the headline is really bothering me. "GOP, play offense in Obama's second term" - what does that even mean?


It is a command from the guy whose article's first sentence is

If President Barack Obama's inaugural address was any indication, his second term will be a doubling down of the progressive, big government agenda.

aka Derp.
 
2013-01-24 09:56:56 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume.

Or such views are the product of the greatest income inequality in modern American history, extraordinarily high college tuition costs that result in a job with a low starting salary and terrible benefits -- if graduation leads to a job at all. Meanwhile, these 18-29 year olds, who generally don't live and breathe RW news, look across the pond at those evil socialist countries with their free or near free healthcare, free or near free college, observe their citizens live longer and happier lives while they move up the social ladder with much greater ease.

Or it's the movies. Whatevs.


I was going to say exactly the same thing. I'd also add that the internet has drastically hurt the narrative of the Republicans because it's actually possible to hear from people living in other cultures and seeing how capitalism with restraints and a bit of socialism actually helps those economies and societies. It's still possible to live inside the Republican bubble but it's much more difficult than it was 20 years ago.
 
2013-01-24 09:57:04 AM  
"Don't blame the GOP leadership
First and foremost, if we are to prevail, we cannot afford to continue firing upon and wounding or maiming our own soldiers and officers. We need everyone in the fight.
It is more difficult to be in a position of governance, such as John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan, than a journalist, pundit or conservative talk show host."

Go cry, Emo.
i13.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-24 09:58:54 AM  
Maybe if the Republicans came up with a good idea, and drop all the fear-mongering, racism, xenophobia, bashing the poor, corporate whoring, and religious zealotry...they may have something useful to say.
 
2013-01-24 09:59:22 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume.

Or such views are the product of the greatest income inequality in modern American history, extraordinarily high college tuition costs that result in a job with a low starting salary and terrible benefits -- if graduation leads to a job at all. Meanwhile, these 18-29 year olds, who generally don't live and breathe RW news, look across the pond at those evil socialist countries with their free or near free healthcare, free or near free college, observe their citizens live longer and happier lives while they move up the social ladder with much greater ease.

Or it's the movies. Whatevs.



I blame violent gun-based iPhone apps.
 
2013-01-24 09:59:42 AM  
FTFA: Unlike those who operate solely in the arenas of commentary, opinion and philosophy, Republicans in Washington bear the responsibility and burden of actual governance, where ideological purity must often yield to compromise

I love conservative planet where nothing has to relate to reality. If I moved there I could be Batman.
 
2013-01-24 10:00:35 AM  
Do your job.
 
2013-01-24 10:01:02 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume.

Or such views are the product of the greatest income inequality in modern American history, extraordinarily high college tuition costs that result in a job with a low starting salary and terrible benefits -- if graduation leads to a job at all. Meanwhile, these 18-29 year olds, who generally don't live and breathe RW news, look across the pond at those evil socialist countries with their free or near free healthcare, free or near free college, observe their citizens live longer and happier lives while they move up the social ladder with much greater ease.

Or it's the movies. Whatevs.


Surely most people want elements of capitalism *and* socialism. Like...a thriving market-based economy that is nevertheless supported by reasonable regulation, shared resources to accomplish large-scale public projects like highways and fire departments, all underpinned by a secure safety net.
 
2013-01-24 10:02:27 AM  

johnnyrocket: Maybe if the Republicans came up with a good idea, and drop all the fear-mongering, racism, xenophobia, bashing the poor, corporate whoring, and religious zealotry...they may have something useful to say.


They would be Democrats at that point.

/hopes nobody is naive enough to think of modern Democrats as actual liberals
 
2013-01-24 10:03:00 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Philip Francis Queeg: The roots of our cultural and educational outreach must be as far reaching as the left's. This means broadening our scope of influence outside Fox News and conservative talk radio and into the left's strongholds of Hollywood and higher education. Perhaps some of the hundreds of millions of dollars spent on PACs could be better spent taking back the culture.

So waste hundreds of millions on bad movies no one will watch rather than bad candidates no one will like?

It's not the ideology that's the problem, it's the messaging. They just need to package it differently and BAM! young people, women, minorities and the LGBT community will all turn hard right. deal_with_it.jpg.

It's really stunning how hard they're not getting it.


They are seeing that most people think they're assholes, but instead of proposing that they stop acting like assholes they decide that they need more people saying they're not assholes and that they're right to act the way they do.

Please proceed, conservatives.
 
2013-01-24 10:04:53 AM  

Frank N Stein: Throws an interception deep in left field

You're mixing your sports metaphors

/Or is that the joke? I dunno I haven't had coffee yet


It's politics, not known for making sense, and not expected to (especially from the GOP).
 
2013-01-24 10:08:37 AM  

xria: It also probably relates to the (ab)use of the term "socialism"


Same reason the War on Drugs was doomed to fail. If you tell kids "One puff, one time'll kill ya", and then they see not only half their high school class NOT dying en masse, but that the valedictorian passed a phone-pole sized Jibba to the captain of the football team the night before finals/The Big Game, and both made it out alive - it sort of ruins the message.

So not only have younger people stopped believing that "socialism" is the root of all evil the GOP claims, but they've stopped buying the rest of what the GOP's selling, too.

Start reflecting the reality the rest of us can touch and see and hear, and we'll perhaps giving your "opinions" more credence.

// we'll roll them on the river
 
2013-01-24 10:09:02 AM  
49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism

When a private individual gets insurance from a private insurance company through a private employer and goes to a private physician office then to a pharmacy that's also non-government, these conservative child molester types scream "SOCIALISM!!!!!"

Since these rightwing pieces of shiat actually define socialism as "that which is not socialism" I would expect a little confusion on such matters.
 
2013-01-24 10:09:51 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume.

Or such views are the product of the greatest income inequality in modern American history, extraordinarily high college tuition costs that result in a job with a low starting salary and terrible benefits -- if graduation leads to a job at all. Meanwhile, these 18-29 year olds, who generally don't live and breathe RW news, look across the pond at those evil socialist countries with their free or near free healthcare, free or near free college, observe their citizens live longer and happier lives while they move up the social ladder with much greater ease.

Or it's the movies. Whatevs.


I'd say it's because the Republicans have redefined socialism. A fractional tax increase on income taxes for the highest tax bracket is now considered radical socialism. A lot of people agree with the small tax increase, and you've been running around telling them that they're socialists. Now you're upset that they believe you?
 
2013-01-24 10:11:07 AM  

SuperT: Dusk-You-n-Me: Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume.

Or such views are the product of the greatest income inequality in modern American history, extraordinarily high college tuition costs that result in a job with a low starting salary and terrible benefits -- if graduation leads to a job at all. Meanwhile, these 18-29 year olds, who generally don't live and breathe RW news, look across the pond at those evil socialist countries with their free or near free healthcare, free or near free college, observe their citizens live longer and happier lives while they move up the social ladder with much greater ease.

Or it's the movies. Whatevs.

This. If I have a positive view of socialism it's because over the 30 years of my life, capitalism has done nothing but piss on my head and tell me it's raining.

I wasn't born on 3rd base with a silver spoon, so capitalism to me is nothing but the reason I have to pay more taxes while the rich get tax cuts.


Did you remember to say 'Thank you!' to the Piss Creators that blessed you with their warm saffron stream?
 
2013-01-24 10:12:54 AM  
"Consequences of Big Government"

Hahahahaha, oh wait, your Big Government party is serious!
 
2013-01-24 10:13:54 AM  
49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism

It's almost as if these people have seen what 10 years of trickle-down economics unfettered capitalism does for the economy.
 
2013-01-24 10:18:39 AM  
"Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume. We must change those cultural institutions before we can truly change our political institutions in the long term."

Our ethos and principles are unpopular. Therefore we must change and adapt, to serve the will of the people public opinion with a propaganda blitz.
 
2013-01-24 10:20:11 AM  
Bill Bennett works for CNN? Last credible thing he did was to write a check for over $1M to cover his gambling debt.
 
2013-01-24 10:33:30 AM  
Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume.


of course, many of today's FOX conservatives love their SS checks, and medicare (got me a mobility scooter at no cost to me!)...but hate socialism

the way the RW uses the word socialism is a joke. They look back at the 50s as though it was paradise while simultaneously and ignorantly shiating all over the SOCIALIST programs that brought prosperity to Americans during that era.

/a healthy mix of capitalism and socialism worked very well for most Americans. The very wealthy managed to convince people otherwise with heavy propaganda
//yep, must be movies GOP. proceed...
 
2013-01-24 10:37:00 AM  
What the hell? Did CNN pay this guy to take a steaming dump in their op-ed section? They probably could have gotten the same quality of content for free if they just pulled the most "intelligent" free republic comments of the previous week.
 
2013-01-24 10:37:31 AM  
The American people voted in big government, and they will be punished and made to pay for it in immiseration.

As opposed to the George W years where everything was honey bees and daisies.
 
2013-01-24 10:39:24 AM  
...rising Republican stars such as Sen. Marco Rubio, Gov. Bob McDonnell, Gov. Bobby Jindal, Gov. Susana Martinez, Gov. Scott Walker, Rep. Paul Ryan and so on. Our bench is strong ...


ha ha ha oh wow.jpg
 
2013-01-24 10:40:44 AM  
FTA first line: "If President Barack Obama's inaugural address was any indication, his second term will be a doubling down of the progressive, big government agenda."

AAAAAAND stopped reading.
 
2013-01-24 10:52:43 AM  
I'll just leave this here...
thepoliticalcarnival.net
 
2013-01-24 10:59:11 AM  
Yes we the people voted in Big Government and if the Republicans want to take back power then they need to roll over and play dead.

Give the Democrats exactly what they want, allow them to raise taxes, and all too soon the people will turn on them. If the Republicans keep up yelling about fiscal cliff's, debt and deficit while not being willing to raise taxes then they just come off looking like a joke.

Taxes must rise to cover our deficit, once that is accomplished and everyone sees the true cost of government then and only then will the Republicans be in a position of power to negotiate cuts to government in order to reduce taxes.
 
2013-01-24 11:02:12 AM  
Conservatives are losing the culture war

Really, they are still using that term? OK buddy I'll play, define American Culture for us all please.
 
2013-01-24 11:06:27 AM  

lennavan: If conservatives actually believed what they spout, they would let the (D)'s govern. They would put up less resistance for this very reason. Because in 8 years of (D)'s in charge, the conservatives say our taxes will skyrocket our economy will fail and yadda yadda. The reason they don't, the reason they're obstructionist, is because they think the (D) policies will actually work.

 
2013-01-24 11:11:08 AM  

Flappyhead: Conservatives are losing the culture war

Really, they are still using that term? OK buddy I'll play, define American Culture for us all please.


upload.wikimedia.org
/Hot, like the ovens that make dough into bread.
 
2013-01-24 11:23:56 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Flappyhead: Conservatives are losing the culture war

Really, they are still using that term? OK buddy I'll play, define American Culture for us all please.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x400]
/Hot, like the ovens that make dough into bread.


Ha, that's actually a good visual metaphor. Solid white with just a little bit of brown along the outskirts.
 
2013-01-24 11:27:45 AM  

Flappyhead: Conservatives are losing the culture war

Really, they are still using that term? OK buddy I'll play, define American Culture for us all please.



Poodle skirts, Joe McCarthy-like dedication to capitalism, and keeping the darks away from the white girls.
 
2013-01-24 11:32:47 AM  

Flappyhead: Conservatives are losing the culture war

Really, they are still using that term? OK buddy I'll play, define American Culture for us all please.


Guns and Bibles. Clinging is optional, but highly recommended.
 
2013-01-24 12:16:01 PM  
FTA: William Buckley aptly described conservatism as the politics of reality.

And my, how things have changed.
 
2013-01-24 12:27:21 PM  

xria: Dusk-You-n-Me: Conservatives are losing the culture war when, according to a 2011 Pew Research poll, 49% of Americans ages 18-29 have a positive view of socialism while just 46% have a positive view of capitalism. Such views are the products of our education system and the movies, music and entertainment young Americans consume.

Or such views are the product of the greatest income inequality in modern American history, extraordinarily high college tuition costs that result in a job with a low starting salary and terrible benefits -- if graduation leads to a job at all. Meanwhile, these 18-29 year olds, who generally don't live and breathe RW news, look across the pond at those evil socialist countries with their free or near free healthcare, free or near free college, observe their citizens live longer and happier lives while they move up the social ladder with much greater ease.

Or it's the movies. Whatevs.

It also probably relates to the (ab)use of the term "socialism" to mean everything apart from giving every penny of the nations income to the top 1%.

Not being left on the streets to starve when you are temporarily out of a job - socialism!
Not leaving kids born to irresponsible parents to die - socialism!
Not locking off all poor children out of the education system - socialism!
Creating a public road system for everyone to use without usage tolls - socialism!
Majority of Europeans having access to decent healthcare without bankrupting themselves - socialism!

If you keep at that long enough, you stop making {policy I don't like because I don't directly benefit from it right now} look bad by using the scary "socialism" word, and instead the word starts to become understood by lots of people as meaning "the good parts of what the government does".


THESE
 
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