Pribar: FTA:Alcohol has played a factor in the dismissals of a number of commanding officers in recent years.Standard Navy responseProblem:Our senior officers are getting shiat faced and screwing the poochSolution:Test the enlisted men/guarantee you the Master at arms won't be testing the Captain when he staggers up the brow...
draa: And they're just starting this now? Though I'll say it's probably for the best over all.My CSB. When I got out of bootcamp in 1983 I went to A-School in Memphis and the first thing I did was get shiatfaced. And me and a buddy stayed that way for nearly 3 years.
shintochick: The testing applies to officer and enlisted. How it all plays out of course is another matter.
draa: shintochick: The testing applies to officer and enlisted. How it all plays out of course is another matter.They said the same thing about drug testing but I never saw an officer busted for it. Of course they sign a different contract when they join and can opt out of it anytime whereas an enlisted man is commited to various lengths and the only way to get out of them before their enlistment is up is various discharges like Medical, General, OTH or Dishonorable. And on rare occasions a BC since that's usually reserved for the worst cases. I'd imagine that has something to do with officers never getting into trouble unless something really bad happens. Too much money invested in an officer to wind up having them say "fark this shiat, I'm going home."
Fecal Conservative: Note: They're testing with the .08 weak watered down civilian bar for drunk.
Optimus Primate: I was in the Navy 1987-1994. While on tour overseas, at any morning muster in a foreign port, I guarantee 70-80% of the men standing in ranks were over the limit. Hell, sometimes we'd only stopped drinking a couple hours before muster. You get really good at maintaining, REALLY good.
Optimus Primate: The key was still being able to perform your duties...and we always could. We made sure to show up to muster shaved and (relatively) well put together. There was an understanding amongst everyone involved that as long as you could play it off - nobody was going to make a stink about you being a little buzzed from the night before. Hell, oftentimes the chiefs and first class enlisted were as bad off as we were...If you showed up to muster staggering and unshaved - you were getting written up. Exceptions were made for one-offs if you were a solid sailor 99% of the time. You'd get sent to your work space to sleep it off (we were weapons and radar techs and had the BEST sleep-off spaces).
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