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2013-01-23 08:04:13 PM  

Mega Steve: Adric? ADRIC??? Not only was he a snot-nosed know-it-all, but he evolved from giant freaking spiders! And for all his genius, he didn't have the good sense to save his own ass. Fie upon you, I say! FIE!


But for a 14 year old ginger gay nerd watching the episodes on PBS in the 80s - he was a dreamboat.
 
2013-01-23 08:05:15 PM  

Tsar_Bomba1: Majikthise: They can easily get Baker the first involved... toward the end of his run there was a story called "The Leisure Hive" where he was temporarily aged. They could use him in that regard...

/lord I am a geek

Unless they have more Shada footage that's lying around...


Nah, they put all that out on DVD a couple weeks back.

/and the flash animated Eighth Doctor version of Shada.
//And the More Than 30 Years in the TARDIS documentary.
 
2013-01-23 08:06:03 PM  

gingerjet: Mega Steve: Adric? ADRIC??? Not only was he a snot-nosed know-it-all, but he evolved from giant freaking spiders! And for all his genius, he didn't have the good sense to save his own ass. Fie upon you, I say! FIE!

But for a 14 year old ginger gay nerd watching the episodes on PBS in the 80s - he was a dreamboat.


Man, if they had shown the later Peter Davison episodes, you would have loved Turlough.
 
2013-01-23 08:14:48 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Man, if they had shown the later Peter Davison episodes, you would have loved Turlough.


Turlough was ginger.  Not my type (since I'm already one).   Although he was the last male companion of the Doctor until this dude:

upload.wikimedia.org

/swoon
 
2013-01-23 08:17:00 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Man, if they had shown the later Peter Davison episodes, you would have loved Turlough.


Turlough was probably the most wasted companion ever, besides Chameleon. His character had so much potential...a person with actual depth, flaws, less than innocent motivations. And it goes nowhere. At least he got to carry Peri.
 
2013-01-23 08:19:03 PM  

mjbok: FirstNationalBastard: Man, if they had shown the later Peter Davison episodes, you would have loved Turlough.

Turlough was probably the most wasted companion ever, besides Chameleon. His character had so much potential...a person with actual depth, flaws, less than innocent motivations. And it goes nowhere. At least he got to carry Peri.


Turlough would be great in today's Doctor Who, but was wasted in the 80s sunshine lollipops JNT era.

...Kind of like how the Sixth Doctor was wasted, but when they re-used most of his character traits for the 10th Doctor, everyone loved it.
 
2013-01-23 08:34:49 PM  
So we've had joint appearances by all Star Trek captains, now all the Doctor Who doctors. Somehow the 50th anniversary year for James Bond passed without getting all the 007 actors together. Rumor has it this could happen at the Oscars but I'll believe it when I see it.
 
2013-01-23 08:35:50 PM  
It's Peter Davison, people. Not Peter Davidson.

Davison

(though if it will bring Sally Sparrow back, you can spell it any smegging way you want)
 
2013-01-23 08:45:13 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: mjbok: FirstNationalBastard: Man, if they had shown the later Peter Davison episodes, you would have loved Turlough.

Turlough was probably the most wasted companion ever, besides Chameleon. His character had so much potential...a person with actual depth, flaws, less than innocent motivations. And it goes nowhere. At least he got to carry Peri.

Turlough would be great in today's Doctor Who, but was wasted in the 80s sunshine lollipops JNT era.

...Kind of like how the Sixth Doctor was wasted, but when they re-used most of his character traits for the 10th Doctor, everyone loved it.


If I had to pick out a moment for the first two Doctor's of the reboot it would be easy. E's "Why won't you die" monologue in 'Dalek'. Also a special episode because it has a non-bastardized Cyberhead. Emo would be one of the moments with Sarah Jane.

Still E was better than Emo because he had this era of being unhinged, just this side of psychotic that was awesome.
 
2013-01-23 08:50:33 PM  

mjbok: FirstNationalBastard: mjbok: FirstNationalBastard: Man, if they had shown the later Peter Davison episodes, you would have loved Turlough.

Turlough was probably the most wasted companion ever, besides Chameleon. His character had so much potential...a person with actual depth, flaws, less than innocent motivations. And it goes nowhere. At least he got to carry Peri.

Turlough would be great in today's Doctor Who, but was wasted in the 80s sunshine lollipops JNT era.

...Kind of like how the Sixth Doctor was wasted, but when they re-used most of his character traits for the 10th Doctor, everyone loved it.

If I had to pick out a moment for the first two Doctor's of the reboot it would be easy. E's "Why won't you die" monologue in 'Dalek'. Also a special episode because it has a non-bastardized Cyberhead. Emo would be one of the moments with Sarah Jane.

Still E was better than Emo because he had this era of being unhinged, just this side of psychotic that was awesome.


That's probably my favorite 9th Doctor episode. You see a character that wasn't typically hateful or spiteful turned that way from the ravages of an extended war with that species. Between that and the Doctor Dances 2 parter you get to see how much the Doctor was really affected by this mysterious Time War that you only ever hear about.
 
2013-01-23 08:53:12 PM  

rickycal78: SilentStrider: mahuika: Rwa2play: thecpt: You can't have river song involved without it breaking canon, right?

On a side note: Wouldn't be surprised if this would be Alex's last story as River but keep the character by giving her a regeneration cycle.

But wouldn't that break canon with the Library episodes? She still was Alex then

Not necessarily. I'm sure they could come up with some sort of phlebotinum to bring her back afterr that if they wanted.
Although I'd rather they not, as her death when we first met her makes her subsequent apearences somewhat bittersweet, which would be lost if they found a way to bring her back.

Unless she became part of the TARDIS...

I'm sure they could. Hell I'm betting there's entire gb's worth of fanfic out there depicting how it could be done. Personally I think it'd be a good way to say farewell to River, she did mention seeing him with a different face the last time she saw him. Could be like TFA was saying that she's somehow responsible for getting all of them together and one of his incarnations is the last one she talks to before the Library and he gives her a modified sonic.

I like River, I really do, but she's kinda been played out now that there's little to no mystery around her. That and I think she was as over used as the Weeping Angels.


Especially now that her character makes no sense. How did she know that she and the Doctor were married? It hadn't happened yet, for her. And why was she so shocked about Rory and Amy being sent back in time? They never even have any "where are you in our relationship timeline" conversations. The writers/creators just act like she's in the same timeline as the Doctor, now.
 
2013-01-23 08:54:59 PM  

Rwa2play: mahuika: Rwa2play: thecpt: You can't have river song involved without it breaking canon, right?

On a side note: Wouldn't be surprised if this would be Alex's last story as River but keep the character by giving her a regeneration cycle.

But wouldn't that break canon with the Library episodes? She still was Alex then

Well, I had a theory about that: What if that was River's clone? River getting her regenerations back would have a side-effect similar to what happened to the Doctor during "Journey's End" with River returning to the future and the clone River helping the Doctors. THAT River would die at "Slience" but the real River would eventually regenerate and see the Doctor again.

Silly but what the hell since we're throwing stuff out there...


They established in "Let's Kill Hitler" that River can never again regenerate.
 
2013-01-23 08:58:28 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: NYRBill: what about a Torchwood crossover?
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She (the actress) was in the Dickens episode. Hated her in Twood.


Martha worked for Torchwood in the Dalek/Cybermen episode before she was Martha
 
2013-01-23 08:58:46 PM  

mjbok: coffee fiend: thecpt: Broktun:
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What about Rose?

nope. tfa said no recent assistants pretty much.

Graham Norton had Billie Piper on his show a couple weeks back and asked her about it. She answered with a firm "No."

Good. She's awful and symptomatic of everything that was bad about the reboot. She's the herpes of companions. Just when you think she's gone, she flares back up.


Old people are weird.
 
2013-01-23 09:02:04 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: "...all eleven Doctors and River Song? Sounds great, right?"

If she's the catalyst for bringing them all together, it might work. But the only reason for having all the Doctors in a 50th anniversary special would be for the purposes of fanwank. Anyone interested in a good story for the 50th anniversary should not be interested in this.

Do the math: 43 minutes ÷ 11 Doctors. Or even 60 minutes (like some of the Xmas specials), or even 90 minutes (two-parter). Even 90 minutes ÷ 11 Doctors.

Even at his best, I doubt Moffat (or anyone) has the chops to write a coherent, compelling story to cram them all in.

Involve the other 10 peripherally in a story - make River the crux of it, that's a good idea - but have Smith having to rescue the rest from limbo or something (although something better than Baker clips from "Shada," a la "The Five Doctors"). Then follow it up with a special where the living Doctors are all on stage together being interviewed by someone clever and interesting and who is a canon-knowlegable fan (how about Chris Hardwick?). That would be far more satisfying than dividing a 43 minutes or 90 minutes by 11 Doctors.


Obviously, it wouldn't be divided equally. Some of the actors are dead, you know. I'm sure most will just make a cameo appearance.
 
2013-01-23 09:02:39 PM  

eddiesocket:
They established in "Let's Kill Hitler" that River can never again regenerate.


hmm, I'll have to watch it again.....
 
2013-01-23 09:04:52 PM  

NYRBill: eddiesocket:
They established in "Let's Kill Hitler" that River can never again regenerate.

hmm, I'll have to watch it again.....


She gave up that ability in order to save the Doctor's life.
 
2013-01-23 09:04:57 PM  
 
2013-01-23 09:10:37 PM  

pseudowho: This story (rumor) is a repeat... from 2009:

News: New Doctor Who Matt Smith's first appearance as the Doctor will be in a special this November featuring all eleven Doctors. Fark: Even the dead ones


/except the first appearance part


Heh. And technically, we did see them all in Matt Smith's first episode. (In archive footage). I suspect the 50th Anniversary episode will be something similar.
 
2013-01-23 09:10:45 PM  

rickycal78: As cool as that would be, I'm not going to hold my breath.
"So all eleven Doctors and River Song? Sounds great, right? NOT SO FAST says Colin Baker! The sixth Doctor has already denied the Birmingham Mail's claims by tweeting: "...apart from The Big Finish plans I am not aware of any 50th stories nor have I been approached."



Rule #1.
 
2013-01-23 09:35:12 PM  
Personally I'm looking forward to finding out who the 12th doctor will be. I find Matt Smith to behave too much like a children's show host, or someone with a Peter Pan complex. I just can't picture his doctor having the stones to pull what the previous two pulled. They could've at least given us Mickey beating the everloving shiat out of Rory, while Rose and Amy and Martha make out.
 
2013-01-23 09:43:11 PM  
The 12th Doctor should be Craig Charles.. I know at face value, it sounds horrible. But just let your mind run with it for a few moments.
 
2013-01-23 09:47:18 PM  
I saw this earlier. Is the Birmingham a less reputable tabloid rag than The Sun?
 
2013-01-23 09:49:22 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: SilentStrider: Christopher Eccleston has been the only hold-out, though he is reconsidering, which is fabulous fantastic news

fixed.

AndI cannot be the only one who thinks that is incredibly cool. I was a fan if four as a kid, but Nine was my first Doctor as an adult, and  he absolutely crushed the role.

Every time I've read about Eccleston not being involved with a Doctor Who 50th anniversary episode, I've always thought "...because Voltron vs. The Bionic Six vs. Silverhawks is filming that week?"

He did a GI Joe movie... surely another Doctor Who appearance couldn't be out of the question.

And now, it doesn't seem to be, which is fantastic.


He's actually one of the main villains in Thor 2, which is pretty much guaranteed to make at least a quarter billion so long as it isn't a shot for shot remake of Manos the Hands of Fate.
 
2013-01-23 09:58:37 PM  

ShankatsuForte: The 12th Doctor should be Craig Charles.. I know at face value, it sounds horrible. But just let your mind run with it for a few moments.


Daniel Craig
 
2013-01-23 10:07:44 PM  

NYRBill: is the 10th Doctor going to bring his daughter?
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images.wikia.com

Or his granddaughter?
 
2013-01-23 10:24:06 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: NYRBill: what about a Torchwood crossover?
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I dunno... Torchwood still has US Stink on it from Miracle Day...


I still can't bring myself to watch the last episode. At first I thought it was my son's dirty diapers. Then I realized it was the script.
 
2013-01-23 10:41:55 PM  

Ebenator: [img.photobucket.com image 395x500]
There can be only one.


Fark yeah!
 
2013-01-23 10:47:14 PM  

pseudowho: This story (rumor) is a repeat... from 2009:

News: New Doctor Who Matt Smith's first appearance as the Doctor will be in a special this November featuring all eleven Doctors. Fark: Even the dead ones


/except the first appearance part


Well, technically it did happen in the 11th Hour... it just happened to be a video memory thinggy of them all.
 
2013-01-23 10:49:44 PM  

eddiesocket: Heh. And technically, we did see them all in Matt Smith's first episode. (In archive footage).


sirbissel: Well, technically it did happen in the 11th Hour... it just happened to be a video memory thinggy of them all.


Great minds reply alike?
 
2013-01-23 11:01:48 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: FirstNationalBastard: NYRBill: what about a Torchwood crossover?
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I dunno... Torchwood still has US Stink on it from Miracle Day...

I liked Miracle Day. I didn't like the Vagina At The Center Of The Earth ending, but I liked Miracle Day. We got to see Jack with a true love who wasn't Ianto and who wasn't female and married to him. None of the Team died. And this

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is always Win. THAT'S feminism, not that old 'being a stripper/whore/eyecandy with a fancy security clearance' crap that US television pulls. Dealing with the everyday life of everyday women who have to deal with extraordinary shiat.. that scene will always be one of my fondest memories of that show.


That scene was truly the best thing in the history of ever, and I prefer to believe that Torchwood ended at that very moment.
 
2013-01-23 11:03:36 PM  

BrainyBear: ExperianScaresCthulhu: FirstNationalBastard: NYRBill: what about a Torchwood crossover?
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I dunno... Torchwood still has US Stink on it from Miracle Day...

I liked Miracle Day. I didn't like the Vagina At The Center Of The Earth ending, but I liked Miracle Day. We got to see Jack with a true love who wasn't Ianto and who wasn't female and married to him. None of the Team died. And this

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is always Win. THAT'S feminism, not that old 'being a stripper/whore/eyecandy with a fancy security clearance' crap that US television pulls. Dealing with the everyday life of everyday women who have to deal with extraordinary shiat.. that scene will always be one of my fondest memories of that show.

That scene was truly the best thing in the history of ever, and I prefer to believe that Torchwood ended at that very moment.


Sadly that was one of the very few good scenes in Miracle Day. Most of the rest blew donkey balls.
 
2013-01-23 11:04:11 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
Film Dr. Who kinda frowns/ grimaces on your 'all 11 Doctors' statement.
 
2013-01-23 11:05:13 PM  

LectertheChef: Personally I'm looking forward to finding out who the 12th doctor will be. I find Matt Smith to behave too much like a children's show host, or someone with a Peter Pan complex. I just can't picture his doctor having the stones to pull what the previous two pulled. They could've at least given us Mickey beating the everloving shiat out of Rory, while Rose and Amy and Martha make out.


I disagree. Particularly in S6, where he actually pulled off playing him as so old.
 
2013-01-23 11:25:14 PM  

eddiesocket: Especially now that her character makes no sense. How did she know that she and the Doctor were married? It hadn't happened yet, for her. And why was she so shocked about Rory and Amy being sent back in time? They never even have any "where are you in our relationship timeline" conversations. The writers/creators just act like she's in the same timeline as the Doctor, now.


We're supposed to believe she's "acting" for the sake of the other characters when she's in a position to know more than they do. It's absurd and stupid, and often misleading to the point of being detrimental and dangerous to the other characters - as when she pretends to not know who the kid was in the space suit in the "Impossible Astronaut" storyline.

There are a HUGE number of problems with the whole Melody/River storyline. But where she is in her timeline vs. where everyone else is in theirs? That's not one of them. If you think you've spotted a problem that indicates Moffat doesn't have the whole thing mapped out, you missed something.

By and large, they've been meeting in opposite order. (So much so that I find it too linear, but that's beside the point.) By and large, all the episodes before "The Wedding of River Song" are episodes in which she knew they were married, HOWEVER "The Angels Take Manhattan" actually takes place much later for her - after "The Time of Angels"/"Flesh and Stone" and before "Silence in the Library" (as evidenced by the fact that she's referred to as Professor Song, not Doctor Song).

So exactly when do you think she knew that she and the Doctor were married, but shouldn't have?
 
2013-01-23 11:46:56 PM  
I said many times that Torchwood was "DW with extra snogging"
/and not much else
 
2013-01-23 11:48:27 PM  

NYRBill: I said many times that Torchwood was "Self-important DW with extra snogging"
/and not much else


FTFY
 
2013-01-24 12:07:51 AM  

thecpt: You can't have river song involved without it breaking canon, right?


You know they'll hand-wave that by saying "wibbly wobbly timey wimey" right?

They haven't given two craps about canon or following their own rules for two seasons now.
 
2013-01-24 12:24:51 AM  

eddievercetti: FirstNationalBastard: To steal a quote from another poster in the other Who thread currently going on...

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

The only problem is that Christopher Eccleston is being a dick about coming back. I know Thor 2 is gonna give you that new pool but C'MON! It's role that made you famous!


This is the first movie I ever saw him in:

3.bp.blogspot.com

Directed by Danny Boyle, to boot. Definitely worth checking out.
 
2013-01-24 12:48:26 AM  
I can't imagine a scenario in where multiple Doctors *don't* ask successive ones how they bit it.

I mean, yeah, save the universe an all, but I'd at least take a moment to catch up with myself.

"I fall off a radio dish? Really? And I became *that* guy? Seriously, Seven, getting shot by LA gangbangers? And what's up with you, Eight? How'd you go and f*ck things up so bad?"

"Well ... timey-wimey ..."

"Shut up, Ten. Go buy a hairbrush."
 
2013-01-24 12:51:32 AM  

NYRBill: thecpt: Broktun: [www.infinitydish.com image 416x300]

What about Rose?

nope. tfa said no recent assistants pretty much.

what about someone who wasn't an assistant?


Damn straight ... nothing would make me happier than the return of Sally Sparrow, except maybe the return of Jenny.
 
2013-01-24 01:31:03 AM  

Lernaeus: I can't imagine a scenario in where multiple Doctors *don't* ask successive ones how they bit it.

I mean, yeah, save the universe an all, but I'd at least take a moment to catch up with myself.

"I fall off a radio dish? Really? And I became *that* guy? Seriously, Seven, getting shot by LA gangbangers? And what's up with you, Eight? How'd you go and f*ck things up so bad?"

"Well ... timey-wimey ..."

"Shut up, Ten. Go buy a hairbrush."


There's an Eighth Doctor novel (The Eight Doctors) that covers this. Upon meeting the Eighth Doctor, Doc Six mentions it's embarrassing to meet your next incarnation due to the fact that you're kind of responsible for them having to be brought into existence at all.
 
2013-01-24 01:47:05 AM  
BTW, if you're interested in an all-the-Doctors and many companions story that's actually pretty damn good, check this out.

It's a fan webcomic that ran 2007-2009 called "The 10 Doctors," and not only does the guy nail every Doctor's character and quirks, he works in - quite reasonably - dozens of companions and villains.

Warning: Absolutely addicting.
 
2013-01-24 01:48:00 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: BTW, if you're interested in an all-the-Doctors and many companions story that's actually pretty damn good, check this out.

It's a fan webcomic that ran 2007-2009 called "The 10 Doctors," and not only does the guy nail every Doctor's character and quirks, he works in - quite reasonably - dozens of companions and villains.

Warning: Absolutely addicting.


He also created 6 other "Doctor Who" webcomics that I haven't yet read.
 
2013-01-24 01:55:05 AM  
As long as they bring back Cpt Jack I don't care what they do.

/I can write it Cpt right? that's not like writing Dr is it?
 
2013-01-24 03:02:38 AM  

Ebenator: [img.photobucket.com image 395x500]
There can be only one.


He's the only one I know. But damn, never would have recognized him
i2.cdnds.net
 
2013-01-24 03:23:31 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: BTW, if you're interested in an all-the-Doctors and many companions story that's actually pretty damn good, check this out.

It's a fan webcomic that ran 2007-2009 called "The 10 Doctors," and not only does the guy nail every Doctor's character and quirks, he works in - quite reasonably - dozens of companions and villains.

Warning: Absolutely addicting.


Gahhhhhd DAMMIT. I was actually going to finish watching more of the Tom Baker era tonight, but you've derailed that.
 
2013-01-24 03:32:43 AM  

magneticmushroom: 100 Watt Walrus: BTW, if you're interested in an all-the-Doctors and many companions story that's actually pretty damn good, check this out.

It's a fan webcomic that ran 2007-2009 called "The 10 Doctors," and not only does the guy nail every Doctor's character and quirks, he works in - quite reasonably - dozens of companions and villains.

Warning: Absolutely addicting.

Gahhhhhd DAMMIT. I was actually going to finish watching more of the Tom Baker era tonight, but you've derailed that.


My advice: Bookmark the archive so you don't lose your place, and allow yourself 5-10 pages a night before bed. Otherwise, you'll be up all night.

The guy put a hell of a lot of thought into it too, and he knows his canon. Read this about at what point in each Doctor was pulled form his own timeline.
 
2013-01-24 07:50:01 AM  

magneticmushroom: 100 Watt Walrus: BTW, if you're interested in an all-the-Doctors and many companions story that's actually pretty damn good, check this out.

It's a fan webcomic that ran 2007-2009 called "The 10 Doctors," and not only does the guy nail every Doctor's character and quirks, he works in - quite reasonably - dozens of companions and villains.

Warning: Absolutely addicting.

Gahhhhhd DAMMIT. I was actually going to finish watching more of the Tom Baker era tonight, but you've derailed that.


For those that are interested, IDW is starting a special Doctor Who run called "Prisoners of Time," in which each month features the Doctor in a different incarnation; all of them face the same nemesis, apparently.

/hoping they mimic the art styles of the decades, too
 
2013-01-24 10:45:26 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: mjbok: coffee fiend: thecpt: Broktun:
[www.infinitydish.com image 416x300]
What about Rose?

nope. tfa said no recent assistants pretty much.

Graham Norton had Billie Piper on his show a couple weeks back and asked her about it. She answered with a firm "No."

Good. She's awful and symptomatic of everything that was bad about the reboot. She's the herpes of companions. Just when you think she's gone, she flares back up.

I think the red menace beat Rose in that department. Hell, they even did a 5 episode farewell tour season for that one that left even Red's most ardent supporters saying "WTF? Why didn't they just go away at the end of last season? This makes no sense."


Aahh...Doctor Who.
The show that has the message about love and friends, yet people everywhere whine like rabid fanboys about people they like and don't like.
 
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