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2013-01-23 04:18:33 PM  
There was a DM kit that helped you create your own campaign and dungeons. I don't see it here. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
 
2013-01-23 04:20:02 PM  
Meh. Considering how shiatty the "remastering" of the last round of rereleases was, I'm not expecting any of these to be worth getting.
 
2013-01-23 04:20:44 PM  
i remember the first time i called bullshiat on Drew for using a computerized RNG for his game rolls. He was so fancy playing the game with his laptop only while the rest of us are erasing THAC0s with rubber erasers every time we got new loot. Somehow his criticals were ALWAYS 15+.

I told him he could go fark himself ... and a website was born.

/shakes tiny fist at Drew
 
2013-01-23 04:20:45 PM  

shortymac: Ooooo pictures please! While I too miss rolling dice the online version we got going is working out really well.


Here is the dice bag:
www.johncathcart.com
www.johncathcart.com
www.johncathcart.com

And here is the cork/leather lined rolling tray with my dwarven metal dice in it:
www.johncathcart.com

Both the bag and tray are hand made/drawn/painted and constructed. That's a buckskin draw tie and wrapped around the handles of the tray and cowhide leather on the bottom of the tray with cork underneath the leather.

I would have felt bad throwing those dice on someone's wooden table (they'll leave dents)... so I made the cork/leather lined rolling tray so I wouldn't damage people's stuff. They still make a nice "thud" when they're thrown. :)
 
2013-01-23 04:20:57 PM  

Girion47: iq_in_binary: shortymac: JohnnyC: I've been looking for a good D&D game to get into... I moved to a new town where I don't know anyone. I have kids and spend a good portion of my time taking care of them and don't get out of the house a whole lot. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a good game.

I was in a game a year ago... but a couple of the players moved away, the other two, who hosted the game, decided they weren't going to play anymore, and that left just me and the DM. The DM found a new guy to host it who had a gaming room and was really into tabletop RPGs and what not. Some new players were found and a game was set up. I went and the new host, who usually DMs games, turned out to be one of those players who just steps all over everyone else's play. He was constantly interrupting, claiming that other players didn't do what they just said they were doing, and generally being a control freak. He did that to me twice before I politely excused myself from the game and never went back.

Since then I've been checking various websites and what not to try and find a game. The local gaming shop players mostly play Magic The Gathering and Warhammer 40k stuff... Not much D&D or Pathfinder unfortunately. So... still haven't found a game to join. Which kind of sucks. *shrug*

Also... the link appears to be dead...

HUG, try organizing a game via Skype and Maptools online, it's what the fark Pathfinder group is doing currently.

My Husband and I have a similar experience as you, great group that ended because 2 players moved cross-country. I'm thinking about getting the group together again, maybe play a totally OP 4e version of Tomb of Horrors.

There's a fark Pathfinder group? I want in!

Don't trust Shortymac, those people are crazy


Can't hold a candle to my previous group. The term "Jesus Farking Christ" was a euphimism for going to rather dire lengths to find alternatives to manual masturbation.
 
2013-01-23 04:21:10 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: There was a DM kit that helped you create your own campaign and dungeons. I don't see it here. Anyone know what I'm talking about?


The DM starter pack?I bought the one for 4ed when borders went out of of business. When I get home I'll double-check the name but I'm pretty sure that's it.
 
2013-01-23 04:24:34 PM  
Agent Smiths Laugh:

Definitely intrigued. I'll probably wait until the core book comes out and pick up it and the starter kit in a fit of avarice.

If you've got the Beta book, it's not that difficult. I just took the idea of the Force Power trees, started the 0 Tier with a 'hold one Force Point to upgrade an Ability Die to a Proficiency die for all Lightsaber rolls', then added upgrades at each Tier that added damage or other effects to Lightsaber use. Like 'spend an Advantage to add 1 to the Deflection rating' or 'Spend a Dark Side Force Point to add 1 to the Sunder rating'. Probably OP'd for Edge of the Empire, but the full tree makes a Lightsaber combatant on par with the Jedi from the prequels: able to take on entire squads solo
 
2013-01-23 04:24:54 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: There was a DM kit that helped you create your own campaign and dungeons. I don't see it here. Anyone know what I'm talking about?


what edition? after 3.0 i wouldnt know. this is what i thought of.

www.aaronallston.com
 
2013-01-23 04:25:28 PM  
Hey 7th level Paladin, law don't go 'round here... savvy?

www.gamebooks.org
 
2013-01-23 04:26:36 PM  

iq_in_binary: Girion47: iq_in_binary: shortymac: JohnnyC: I've been looking for a good D&D game to get into... I moved to a new town where I don't know anyone. I have kids and spend a good portion of my time taking care of them and don't get out of the house a whole lot. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a good game.

I was in a game a year ago... but a couple of the players moved away, the other two, who hosted the game, decided they weren't going to play anymore, and that left just me and the DM. The DM found a new guy to host it who had a gaming room and was really into tabletop RPGs and what not. Some new players were found and a game was set up. I went and the new host, who usually DMs games, turned out to be one of those players who just steps all over everyone else's play. He was constantly interrupting, claiming that other players didn't do what they just said they were doing, and generally being a control freak. He did that to me twice before I politely excused myself from the game and never went back.

Since then I've been checking various websites and what not to try and find a game. The local gaming shop players mostly play Magic The Gathering and Warhammer 40k stuff... Not much D&D or Pathfinder unfortunately. So... still haven't found a game to join. Which kind of sucks. *shrug*

Also... the link appears to be dead...

HUG, try organizing a game via Skype and Maptools online, it's what the fark Pathfinder group is doing currently.

My Husband and I have a similar experience as you, great group that ended because 2 players moved cross-country. I'm thinking about getting the group together again, maybe play a totally OP 4e version of Tomb of Horrors.

There's a fark Pathfinder group? I want in!

Don't trust Shortymac, those people are crazy

Can't hold a candle to my previous group. The term "Jesus Farking Christ" was a euphimism for going to rather dire lengths to find alternatives to manual masturbation.


Nevermind, you fit in already
 
2013-01-23 04:29:02 PM  

JohnnyC: shortymac: Ooooo pictures please! While I too miss rolling dice the online version we got going is working out really well.

Here is the dice bag:
[www.johncathcart.com image 850x569]
[www.johncathcart.com image 850x569]
[www.johncathcart.com image 850x569]

And here is the cork/leather lined rolling tray with my dwarven metal dice in it:
[www.johncathcart.com image 850x574]

Both the bag and tray are hand made/drawn/painted and constructed. That's a buckskin draw tie and wrapped around the handles of the tray and cowhide leather on the bottom of the tray with cork underneath the leather.

I would have felt bad throwing those dice on someone's wooden table (they'll leave dents)... so I made the cork/leather lined rolling tray so I wouldn't damage people's stuff. They still make a nice "thud" when they're thrown. :)


That is a gorgeous bag... I want one!!!!!
 
2013-01-23 04:31:15 PM  

JohnnyC: shortymac: Ooooo pictures please! While I too miss rolling dice the online version we got going is working out really well.

Here is the dice bag:
[www.johncathcart.com image 850x569]
[www.johncathcart.com image 850x569]
[www.johncathcart.com image 850x569]

And here is the cork/leather lined rolling tray with my dwarven metal dice in it:
[www.johncathcart.com image 850x574]

Both the bag and tray are hand made/drawn/painted and constructed. That's a buckskin draw tie and wrapped around the handles of the tray and cowhide leather on the bottom of the tray with cork underneath the leather.

I would have felt bad throwing those dice on someone's wooden table (they'll leave dents)... so I made the cork/leather lined rolling tray so I wouldn't damage people's stuff. They still make a nice "thud" when they're thrown. :)


haha, sure beat my old Crown Royal bag. but it could double as a real life sap if needed. sucker weighed about 6 lbs.
 
2013-01-23 04:32:24 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: There was a DM kit that helped you create your own campaign and dungeons. I don't see it here. Anyone know what I'm talking about?


farm3.staticflickr.com

This? If I recall, it came with a couple sheets of graph paper "rooms" (cavern, throne room, etc.) that you could cut and paste into your own dungeon maps.

(Player-facing side looked like this:
2.bp.blogspot.com


Also:

WinoRhino: deeproy: went looking for...

[upload.wikimedia.org image 218x300]

... didn't find it.

I guess, someday...

I have that one! And this one:

[www.twocatscomicbookstore.com image 600x600]


tagn.files.wordpress.com
I'm pretty sure I have all three of these, in pretty good condition, in a box in a closet at my parents' house. Might even have a bunch of old modules, too. Next time I'm back home, I'll have to see if I can find them. I assume they're of some value these days?
 
2013-01-23 04:36:05 PM  
Nobody here remembers the recent Gygax Memorial re-release? They're still in stores around here.
 
2013-01-23 04:36:47 PM  

shortymac: That is a gorgeous bag... I want one!!!!!


Thanks! I haven't really thought about making/selling them. Was just kind of a one-off kind of thing for my own purposes (which seems pretty limited these days with no game to play in).
 
2013-01-23 04:37:50 PM  

Uzzah: Soup4Bonnie:
[www.twocatscomicbookstore.com image 600x600]

[tagn.files.wordpress.com image 674x300]
I'm pretty sure I have all three of these, in pretty good condition, in a box in a closet at my parents' house. Might even have a bunch of old modules, too. Next time I'm back home, I'll have to see if I can find them. I assume they're of some value these days?


in the 90s they sold for $20-$50 based on condition. and most buyers were actually using them to play, not collect. not sure what theyre worth now. i had a Deities And Demigods alternate cover print was worth over $100 ... so I sold it (perks of working in a shop was that I could sell it for full value for myself, haha). I did see a fairly good sized purging of those books in the late 90s though. Lots o people needed some quick cash or were saving to buy 3.5.
 
2013-01-23 04:38:13 PM  
Anyone know how difficult it is to legitimately publish a system?
 
2013-01-23 04:38:43 PM  

Weaver95: shortymac:

The 3.5 version read like a storybook almost and was awesome, the 4ed version felt like they cut out some pieces of 3.5, altered them slightly to include dragonborn and that was that.

that's pretty much what they did.  my impression is that their 4th edition Eberron book was a conversion guide and...that's it.  they put almost no effort into maintaining the product line after that.  they recalled the stuff already in the pipeline, reskinned it for 4th edition release, and once that stuff was out...they quietly let the product line wither and die.


I wouldn't exactly say they let it "wither and die". From the very beginning of 4e, WOTC stated that campaign settings would receive one campaign setting book aimed at the DM, one campaign setting book aimed at the players, and one soft-cover adventure book. Any additional material for a campaign setting would then only appear in the online Dragon magazine. The releases for Eberron in 4e followed the same pattern as Forgotten Realms 4e that was released the year before, and Dark Sun 4e that came the year after. Granted, I would have liked to have seen more setting specific material for each setting, but WOTC's stated reason for doing things like that, is that campaign specific supplements had sold poorly under 3.5, and they didn't want to repeat that mistake.

In order to compensate for this, they did make a pretty good effort to unify the rules and basic nature of the cosmology between all the settings, with the goal being that almost all the material from the numerous generic system wide books could be integrated into any of the campaign settings. The unified cosmology also made it easy for groups to play with all the different campaign settings set up to be different worlds that all existed in the same universe as opposed to completely separate fictional universes as in previous versions.
 
2013-01-23 04:39:14 PM  

The Flexecutioner: haha, sure beat my old Crown Royal bag. but it could double as a real life sap if needed. sucker weighed about 6 lbs.


Haha! That seems to be the "go-to" solution for most gamers I've known for dice bags.
 
2013-01-23 04:40:13 PM  

ObscureNameHere: Did anyone here ever play the original 'Games Design Workshop' RPG? The one with the incrediably graphic descriptions of critical injuries?

My friend and I gave it a whirl for a few sessions then lost interest but I remember how different in tone it was from the relatively 'tame' D&D, AD&D, Gamma World, Star Frontiers etc. stuff we were used to.


If you're speaking of the original Warhammer Fantasy RPG, yup owned it. May still own it, but can't seem to find the box it got stored in.
 
2013-01-23 04:40:48 PM  

WinoRhino: deeproy: went looking for...

[upload.wikimedia.org image 218x300]

... didn't find it.

I guess, someday...

I have that one! And this one:

[www.twocatscomicbookstore.com image 600x600]


I spent most of my school career reading those two books over and over and over and over, till the pages were falling out.
 
2013-01-23 04:41:09 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Agent Smiths Laugh:

Definitely intrigued. I'll probably wait until the core book comes out and pick up it and the starter kit in a fit of avarice.

If you've got the Beta book, it's not that difficult. I just took the idea of the Force Power trees, started the 0 Tier with a 'hold one Force Point to upgrade an Ability Die to a Proficiency die for all Lightsaber rolls', then added upgrades at each Tier that added damage or other effects to Lightsaber use. Like 'spend an Advantage to add 1 to the Deflection rating' or 'Spend a Dark Side Force Point to add 1 to the Sunder rating'. Probably OP'd for Edge of the Empire, but the full tree makes a Lightsaber combatant on par with the Jedi from the prequels: able to take on entire squads solo


Sadly no, I have none of its materials as of yet. Would like to give it a read-through.
 
2013-01-23 04:41:31 PM  

Girion47: iq_in_binary: Girion47: iq_in_binary: shortymac: JohnnyC: I've been looking for a good D&D game to get into... I moved to a new town where I don't know anyone. I have kids and spend a good portion of my time taking care of them and don't get out of the house a whole lot. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a good game.

I was in a game a year ago... but a couple of the players moved away, the other two, who hosted the game, decided they weren't going to play anymore, and that left just me and the DM. The DM found a new guy to host it who had a gaming room and was really into tabletop RPGs and what not. Some new players were found and a game was set up. I went and the new host, who usually DMs games, turned out to be one of those players who just steps all over everyone else's play. He was constantly interrupting, claiming that other players didn't do what they just said they were doing, and generally being a control freak. He did that to me twice before I politely excused myself from the game and never went back.

Since then I've been checking various websites and what not to try and find a game. The local gaming shop players mostly play Magic The Gathering and Warhammer 40k stuff... Not much D&D or Pathfinder unfortunately. So... still haven't found a game to join. Which kind of sucks. *shrug*

Also... the link appears to be dead...

HUG, try organizing a game via Skype and Maptools online, it's what the fark Pathfinder group is doing currently.

My Husband and I have a similar experience as you, great group that ended because 2 players moved cross-country. I'm thinking about getting the group together again, maybe play a totally OP 4e version of Tomb of Horrors.

There's a fark Pathfinder group? I want in!

Don't trust Shortymac, those people are crazy

Can't hold a candle to my previous group. The term "Jesus Farking Christ" was a euphimism for going to rather dire lengths to find alternatives to manual masturbation.

Nevermind, you fit in already


Just to illustrate how that came up, combat was going pretty bad, 1 character was down, another about to go down, and the other 2 were hopelessly preoccupied.

Ted (huge beard, long fingernails, extremely intelligent and has a knack for off the wall characters that completely destroy everything, currently playing a mongol like Fighter Archer): "Jesus Farking Christ."

John (DM, database programmer, smart ass): "That sounds like it would be quite a feat dude."

Ted: "Nah, not really."

Everybody:
memedepot.com

John: "Really? How do you figure that?"

Ted: "Well, he had plenty of holes to choose from."

Everybody:
cache.jezebel.com
 
2013-01-23 04:41:38 PM  

JohnnyC: The Flexecutioner: haha, sure beat my old Crown Royal bag. but it could double as a real life sap if needed. sucker weighed about 6 lbs.

Haha! That seems to be the "go-to" solution for most gamers I've known for dice bags.


it was the dice bag choice of pragmatist players who were hoping for cool points by being related to their alcohol consumption, haha. they were every where.
 
2013-01-23 04:43:30 PM  
farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2013-01-23 04:43:30 PM  

Uzzah: Soup4Bonnie: There was a DM kit that helped you create your own campaign and dungeons. I don't see it here. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

[farm3.staticflickr.com image 405x500]

This? If I recall, it came with a couple sheets of graph paper "rooms" (cavern, throne room, etc.) that you could cut and paste into your own dungeon maps.

(Player-facing side looked like this:
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 320x168]


Also: WinoRhino: deeproy: went looking for...

[upload.wikimedia.org image 218x300]

... didn't find it.

I guess, someday...

I have that one! And this one:

[www.twocatscomicbookstore.com image 600x600]

[tagn.files.wordpress.com image 674x300]
I'm pretty sure I have all three of these, in pretty good condition, in a box in a closet at my parents' house. Might even have a bunch of old modules, too. Next time I'm back home, I'll have to see if I can find them. I assume they're of some value these days?


Are you thinking of this, maybe: Dungeon Geomorphs?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-23 04:44:07 PM  

The Flexecutioner: what edition? after 3.0 i wouldnt know. this is what i thought of.


That's it! Thank you.
 
2013-01-23 04:52:06 PM  

big pig peaches: Are they going to republish the Deities and Demigods with the H.P. Lovecraft mythologies?


Cough cough thepiratebay.se cough cough
 
2013-01-23 04:52:38 PM  
Five bucks is a little much for a digital copy of a thirty year old D&D1e adventure IMO, fair enough for fairly recent 3e adventures. There needs to be a little more price differentiation at play here.
 
2013-01-23 04:55:17 PM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: big pig peaches: Are they going to republish the Deities and Demigods with the H.P. Lovecraft mythologies?

Cough cough thepiratebay.se cough cough


I have this book.....found it in a half price bookstore for $10.
 
2013-01-23 04:56:45 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: Five bucks is a little much for a digital copy of a thirty year old D&D1e adventure IMO, fair enough for fairly recent 3e adventures. There needs to be a little more price differentiation at play here.


I don't know. I may be just old, but I think the original 1e and some of the 2e modules were better written and had more content than recent stuff. I was a huge fan of Against the Giants.
 
2013-01-23 04:57:55 PM  

Kimpak: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: big pig peaches: Are they going to republish the Deities and Demigods with the H.P. Lovecraft mythologies?

Cough cough thepiratebay.se cough cough

I have this book.....found it in a half price bookstore for $10.


Those are good days. I rescued a 2e D&D GM guide for $3.

/only 2e book I own
//it needed a good home
 
2013-01-23 05:01:36 PM  

KingsleyZisou: Kimpak: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: big pig peaches: Are they going to republish the Deities and Demigods with the H.P. Lovecraft mythologies?

Cough cough thepiratebay.se cough cough

I have this book.....found it in a half price bookstore for $10.

Those are good days. I rescued a 2e D&D GM guide for $3.

/only 2e book I own
//it needed a good home


We always used a hybrid of 1e and 2e back in the day. 2e had some issues.. We were very happy with 3.5. Still use it, since 4 sucks balls.
 
2013-01-23 05:03:34 PM  
I bought the one in a white card board box with the three little books in it some time in the late 70's. I think there was a poorly drawn unicorn on the cover. I don't see it on that site but did not look very hard.
 
2013-01-23 05:05:45 PM  

big pig peaches: Are they going to republish the Deities and Demigods with the H.P. Lovecraft mythologies?


I had that book. As I recall, in subsequent editions they removed the Melnibonean section as well. WIsh I still had it, but my parents confiscated all my D&D stuff during the "D&D = SATAN" craze in the 80's.

I am somewhat embarrassed to admit that the florid prose, campy illustrations, and all that dice rolling were my introduction to literature, art, and probability. Hey, gotta start somewhere.
 
2013-01-23 05:08:32 PM  
Screw that who has time to fark with D&D now a days? No what you want is a rule set called Savage Worlds and if you really must one of the world books. There are several fantasy settings out for it, but converting D&D modules is fast and easy, hell I do it on the fly with no prepared stats on bad guys.

It even has a Darwin's World conversion for when you have that Gamma World itch, or just convert GW.
 
2013-01-23 05:12:33 PM  

INeedAName: Anyone know how difficult it is to legitimately publish a system?


By "legitimately publish" you mean going to a publisher interested in new RPG systems? Impossible. They don't exist.
Now, if you have a really well developed and playtested system, take it to conventions and try to build a fanbase. Of course, you'll be competing with everyone else who goes to the conventions for the same purpose, but maybe you have something unique and compelling.
Basically, you're going to have to self-publish, since anyone interested in publishing systems already has their own. On the other hand, everyone with a system takes source material and adventures from freelancers, so if you have a unique setting or adventure and can adapt it to an existing system, that's where you should put your energy.
 
2013-01-23 05:13:45 PM  

Kimpak: I was a huge fan of Against the Giants.


I remember starting out in Hommlet, having a lot of fun with the Temple of Elemental Evil and then somehow the same characters played through the Giant series. Loads of fun.
 
2013-01-23 05:19:58 PM  

JohnnyC: The Martian Manhandler: JohnnyC: I've been looking for a good D&D game to get into... I moved to a new town where I don't know anyone. I have kids and spend a good portion of my time taking care of them and don't get out of the house a whole lot. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a good game.

Not sure if it'll help, but you could try the Player Registry at Pen & Paper Games. There are a few other websites like that, but this is the only one that I can remember at the moment.

Yeah... I keep an eye on that one. Also been keeping an eye on the forums at this site: RPTools


ENWorld had a really good Gamer Finder section, but it got nuked when the website was hacked. There's a kickstarter to get it rebuilt.

You can also try RPG.Net
 
2013-01-23 05:25:03 PM  

Weaver95: ekdikeo4:
I think this marks the largest "old" company that I've heard of actually -getting- how the digital world works now.

...and they were dragged kicking and screaming into online sales.  i'll say this as well - 5 years ago when WoTC ordered their online partners to yank their products offline, within 3 days or so I saw D&D torrents that had been dead for years suddenly being seeded like crazy.


Still far better than the movie, music, and most other businesses / industries as a whole.

These guys are going to get everything they possibly can scan and make it available.  Pretty damn good idea, imo.
 
2013-01-23 05:25:46 PM  
I just bought a '80 starter box set with the monster manuals I remember from my youth
may be able to see a side boob or something

so when we get all torqued, it's either atari or D&D
Jello biafra on the record player..

game on
 
2013-01-23 05:27:55 PM  

big pig peaches: Are they going to republish the Deities and Demigods with the H.P. Lovecraft mythologies?


Is there a story there? I played thirty years ago, but stopped around the time that came out - it might have been the last thing I bought.

Mom probably still has it in a box. She often reminds me she's still got all my old gaming stuff - she's waiting til it's worth a brazillian dollars
 
2013-01-23 05:35:21 PM  

JWideman: INeedAName: Anyone know how difficult it is to legitimately publish a system?

By "legitimately publish" you mean going to a publisher interested in new RPG systems? Impossible. They don't exist.
Now, if you have a really well developed and playtested system, take it to conventions and try to build a fanbase. Of course, you'll be competing with everyone else who goes to the conventions for the same purpose, but maybe you have something unique and compelling.
Basically, you're going to have to self-publish, since anyone interested in publishing systems already has their own. On the other hand, everyone with a system takes source material and adventures from freelancers, so if you have a unique setting or adventure and can adapt it to an existing system, that's where you should put your energy.


If you are thinking about creating a system, try to focus on a system made for quick and fun instead of long and complicated. For example look up inspectors, you and your friends play a ghost busters-esque RPG.
 
2013-01-23 05:36:17 PM  

GRCooper: big pig peaches: Are they going to republish the Deities and Demigods with the H.P. Lovecraft mythologies?

Is there a story there? I played thirty years ago, but stopped around the time that came out - it might have been the last thing I bought.

Mom probably still has it in a box. She often reminds me she's still got all my old gaming stuff - she's waiting til it's worth a brazillian dollars


That particular version of the Deities and Demigods was discontinued because they didn't have actual permission to publish the Cthulhu mythos...or something like that. Subsequent editions of that book don't have Cthulhu in it. So the original is much more valuable. Last I checked its worth around $50 ish.
 
2013-01-23 05:38:52 PM  

gilgigamesh: Agent Smiths Laugh: I lost my virginity because of D&D.

/back before most people knew nerd girls were even a thing

I lost my virginity to the one chick in our D&D group.


I did to a girl that sat in on a game session.
 
2013-01-23 05:42:23 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Weaver95: While I agree with your position in general, remember that by the time WoTC started screwing their pooch with 4e, they were owned by Hasbro. It was Hasbro that forced them to make 4e and drop the OGL concept as well as every move that has destroyed the face value of the D&D property.


I knew a guy who's dad was a high ranking guy at Hasbro.  He unexpectedly suicided right around the WOTC acquisition.

//probably totally irrelevant.
 
2013-01-23 05:44:14 PM  

GRCooper: big pig peaches: Are they going to republish the Deities and Demigods with the H.P. Lovecraft mythologies?

Is there a story there? I played thirty years ago, but stopped around the time that came out - it might have been the last thing I bought.

Mom probably still has it in a box. She often reminds me she's still got all my old gaming stuff - she's waiting til it's worth a brazillian dollars


From what I member, they were sued by Lovecraft's estate and had to take it out out. Or maybe it was his publisher.

Either way in the late 80's to 90's we scoured used book stores looking for them. Supposedly they were quite valuable. Never found them and I always wondered of they where for real.
 
2013-01-23 05:45:56 PM  

The Martian Manhandler: You can also try RPG.Net


Thanks for the link. That's one I didn't have in my bookmarks of places to look for games. :)
 
2013-01-23 05:50:57 PM  
Are they going to release new comics for churches to give to kids about the dangers of D&D? I recall seeing a few of those about kids committing suicide over their character dying. Later while sitting in on (church active) friends playing D&D in the library at school, a kid walked up and told us "You're all going to hell." We laughed and returned to the game, he was serious. I never did play myself, but did enjoy listening to the story.
 
2013-01-23 06:02:33 PM  
As much as I liked D&D, this has me wanting to play Paranoia.
 
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