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2013-01-23 02:06:33 PM

Weaver95: paizo and several other companies grabbed hold of the digital sales market 5 years ago and 1. hammered out the technical issues long, long ago and 2. established trust with their customers and built up a reputation for selling a quality product at a decent price.  Paizo has even started including digital maps specifically designed to work with tablet computers, and that will 'layer in' DM info, then remove it at a touch so players can look at it and use it during play.


this both sounds cool and useless. back in my day (adjusts onion), we never used maps or really any visual aids. he just described stuff and pictured it. sometimes we used the dice to portyray some characters' location for combat... the DM might have a map, but, unless those goofballs were cartographers and cared their own supplies, nobody else was seeing it.
 
2013-01-23 02:06:35 PM

ObscureNameHere: My 11 year-old son has a character rolled up for 'Star Frontiers' and we've played some sessions. A Dralasite, of course, because they are the coolest


Yazarians are Monkey/Cat people who have wings. If you want your kid running around pretending to be an amorphous tentacle monster, that's your business, but you are a bad parent if you aren't all about the Yazarians.
 
2013-01-23 02:11:15 PM

pute kisses like a man: Weaver95: paizo and several other companies grabbed hold of the digital sales market 5 years ago and 1. hammered out the technical issues long, long ago and 2. established trust with their customers and built up a reputation for selling a quality product at a decent price.  Paizo has even started including digital maps specifically designed to work with tablet computers, and that will 'layer in' DM info, then remove it at a touch so players can look at it and use it during play.

this both sounds cool and useless. back in my day (adjusts onion), we never used maps or really any visual aids. he just described stuff and pictured it. sometimes we used the dice to portyray some characters' location for combat... the DM might have a map, but, unless those goofballs were cartographers and cared their own supplies, nobody else was seeing it.


My DM's have been using Maptools and Skype. Which was going really well...until I updated Java, now maptools is being pissy.
 
2013-01-23 02:11:26 PM
photos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

"Cmon, daddy needs a new sword of wounding."
/biggest pic i could find
 
2013-01-23 02:12:03 PM

pute kisses like a man: Weaver95: paizo and several other companies grabbed hold of the digital sales market 5 years ago and 1. hammered out the technical issues long, long ago and 2. established trust with their customers and built up a reputation for selling a quality product at a decent price.  Paizo has even started including digital maps specifically designed to work with tablet computers, and that will 'layer in' DM info, then remove it at a touch so players can look at it and use it during play.

this both sounds cool and useless. back in my day (adjusts onion), we never used maps or really any visual aids. he just described stuff and pictured it. sometimes we used the dice to portyray some characters' location for combat... the DM might have a map, but, unless those goofballs were cartographers and cared their own supplies, nobody else was seeing it.


I've found that using maps and figures helps keep people focused on the game.  for example., i'm using ship models to run my pirate campaign.  it helps the players map out their naval combat strategy ahead of time.
 
2013-01-23 02:13:36 PM

CygnusDarius: Elandriel: Behold the triumphant return of THAC0!!

Fark that shiat.

/Lived through the dying days to 2nd
//And then unto 3rd and 3.5
///Hated 4e, and I'm sticking with Pathfinder


* Internet fist-bump *

I've checked out the Paizo merchandise too, and it looks pretty good. Too bad all of my gaming is of the MMO variety these days....


/ less time to create and run a campaign ( RL work)
// lost touch with most of my old RPG crowd over the years...
/// most of my current friends & acquaintances would have no interest in this stuff...
 
2013-01-23 02:15:23 PM

give me doughnuts: Woot!

Headin' back to Greyhawk. Haven't been in a campaign there since 1983.


Heck, most of my campaigns are set in Greyhawk. But then, I'm old.
 
2013-01-23 02:15:57 PM

gilgigamesh: Agent Smiths Laugh: I lost my virginity because of D&D.

/back before most people knew nerd girls were even a thing

I lost my virginity to the one chick in our D&D group.


easyquestion.net

/bonus, mine was a redhead
//sigh, the good old days
 
2013-01-23 02:16:24 PM
Pity there's no Spelljammer up yet, but they've got Planescape, which is awesome.
 
2013-01-23 02:18:20 PM

SnakeLee: http://www.earwolf.com/show/nerd-poker/

I don't know much about D&D outside of this podcast, which is the shiat


I discovered this podcast the other day. Freaking great stuff. I found it strange that it took so long to fill this niche. Based on my very brief trist with DnD myself, I laughed my ass off.
 
2013-01-23 02:19:22 PM
Wizards of the Coast -- Our Motto:"We Hope These PDFs Keep Us Relevant Until We Can Get D&D Next/5e Out The Door"
 
2013-01-23 02:19:45 PM

likefunbutnot: ObscureNameHere: My 11 year-old son has a character rolled up for 'Star Frontiers' and we've played some sessions. A Dralasite, of course, because they are the coolest

Yazarians are Monkey/Cat people who have wings. If you want your kid running around pretending to be an amorphous tentacle monster, that's your business, but you are a bad parent if you aren't all about the Yazarians.


Screw that, it's all about the Vrusk.

Giant Spock bugs > all.
 
2013-01-23 02:23:51 PM

The Flexecutioner: [photos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 180x136]

"Cmon, daddy needs a new sword of wounding."
/biggest pic i could find


That looks like lone gunmen?
 
2013-01-23 02:24:13 PM
I used to play, until we realized that nobody wants to be the DM ("It's like you're playing, except you're actually not!") and RPing on some level, which we agreed is really just playing make-believe like grade schoolers, is unavoidable. What we wanted was a tactical squad-based tabletop 'rpg' (in the sense of character building, advancement over time, equipment management, etc). And then everyone went to college and it didn't matter.

We should have gotten a hold of Warhammer Quest.
 
2013-01-23 02:24:56 PM
Weaver95: While I agree with your position in general, remember that by the time WoTC started screwing their pooch with 4e, they were owned by Hasbro. It was Hasbro that forced them to make 4e and drop the OGL concept as well as every move that has destroyed the face value of the D&D property.
 
2013-01-23 02:30:16 PM

JohnnyC: I've been looking for a good D&D game to get into... I moved to a new town where I don't know anyone. I have kids and spend a good portion of my time taking care of them and don't get out of the house a whole lot. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a good game.


Not sure if it'll help, but you could try the Player Registry at Pen & Paper Games. There are a few other websites like that, but this is the only one that I can remember at the moment.
 
2013-01-23 02:30:27 PM

sniderman: Wizards of the Coast -- Our Motto:"We Hope These PDFs Keep Us Relevant Until We Can Get D&D Next/5e Out The Door"


Around my LGS we've noticed FFG taking a greater share of the market, which is cool. They have high quality products, despite the occasional quality control problem (and an utterly terrible slow website).

And of course Paizo.
 
2013-01-23 02:30:33 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: The Flexecutioner: [photos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 180x136]

"Cmon, daddy needs a new sword of wounding."
/biggest pic i could find

That looks like lone gunmen?


yeah, from an xfiles episode.
 
2013-01-23 02:31:40 PM
If you like PDF D&D books, here's my Monstrous Tome II: Book of Beings book over at Dragonsfoot.  100+ 1E monsters, all illustrated.
 
2013-01-23 02:32:09 PM
Why did I have any expectation that these would be free downloads?
 
2013-01-23 02:32:26 PM

RanDomino: I used to play, until we realized that nobody wants to be the DM ("It's like you're playing, except you're actually not!") and RPing on some level, which we agreed is really just playing make-believe like grade schoolers, is unavoidable. What we wanted was a tactical squad-based tabletop 'rpg' (in the sense of character building, advancement over time, equipment management, etc). And then everyone went to college and it didn't matter.

We should have gotten a hold of Warhammer Quest.


Love that game!

/no I don't wasn't to go back to town. It's safer down here in this dungeon full of monsters.
 
2013-01-23 02:34:09 PM

KingsleyZisou: RanDomino: I used to play, until we realized that nobody wants to be the DM ("It's like you're playing, except you're actually not!") and RPing on some level, which we agreed is really just playing make-believe like grade schoolers, is unavoidable. What we wanted was a tactical squad-based tabletop 'rpg' (in the sense of character building, advancement over time, equipment management, etc). And then everyone went to college and it didn't matter.

We should have gotten a hold of Warhammer Quest.

Love that game!

/no I don't wasn't to go back to town. It's safer down here in this dungeon full of monsters.


We've been playing this to fill that niche.
 
2013-01-23 02:35:51 PM

ekdikeo4: Weaver95: as I said many times before when this was announced yesterday...while I applaud this effort and believe it to be a VERY good business move...it's far far too little and very late to the table.  about 5 years too late, in fact.  WoTC is attempting to reverse the damage done to their business model by a CEO who is/was a f*cking moron with no understanding of his target market or the genre he was selling.  But hey, he got his golden parachute so go capitalism go!

*sigh*

sorry.  i'm only slightly bitter about that.  again, WoTC is behind the bell curve on this one.  paizo and several other companies grabbed hold of the digital sales market 5 years ago and 1. hammered out the technical issues long, long ago and 2. established trust with their customers and built up a reputation for selling a quality product at a decent price.  Paizo has even started including digital maps specifically designed to work with tablet computers, and that will 'layer in' DM info, then remove it at a touch so players can look at it and use it during play.

not saying WoTC can't make a go of this tech but...they've shot themselves in BOTH feet, then decided to run a marathon race 20 min after the starting gun went off.

I think this marks the largest "old" company that I've heard of actually -getting- how the digital world works now.


Two things (in reverse order of what you said):
First, Magic the Gathering became a hit largely because of the internet. Yes, there was an internet before the world-wide-web, before the eternal September when AOL linked to the internet, and most college students were on it (possibly requiring a NeXT machine to make it easy). Hopefully WoTC execs understand this (I'm not betting on it, and I'm sure turnover especially after a buyout is high).

Second, once Gary Gygax was forced out you could say the same things about the CEO during the second edition AD&D era. Things were going downhill rather badly until WoTC bought them out.
 
2013-01-23 02:36:03 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: WhippingBoy: Agent Smiths Laugh: I lost my virginity because of D&D.

/back before most people knew nerd girls were even a thing

I lost my virginity in spite of D&D.

Ah, so you're the flip side of the coin!

[www.spscriptorium.com image 340x271]


Yep. Bring your copy of "Keep on the Borderlands" to the next convention, and I'll sign it for you.
 
2013-01-23 02:39:09 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: KingsleyZisou: RanDomino: I used to play, until we realized that nobody wants to be the DM ("It's like you're playing, except you're actually not!") and RPing on some level, which we agreed is really just playing make-believe like grade schoolers, is unavoidable. What we wanted was a tactical squad-based tabletop 'rpg' (in the sense of character building, advancement over time, equipment management, etc). And then everyone went to college and it didn't matter.

We should have gotten a hold of Warhammer Quest.

Love that game!

/no I don't wasn't to go back to town. It's safer down here in this dungeon full of monsters.

We've been playing this to fill that niche.


That looks cool. Quest is super fun. Many a night has bled into the next day as we flip tiles and fight monsters. If you like sci fi Space Hulk is a good squad based tactical game. No level advancement is its major draw back.

/nobody talk about Mordheim that game pisses on my dreams regularly
//so I don't play it anymore :(
 
2013-01-23 02:39:49 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: Weaver95: While I agree with your position in general, remember that by the time WoTC started screwing their pooch with 4e, they were owned by Hasbro. It was Hasbro that forced them to make 4e and drop the OGL concept as well as every move that has destroyed the face value of the D&D property.


oh I know there was corporate bullshiat going on behind the scenes.  that still doesn't excuse the fact that WoTC was being run by someone who had no idea how to sell D&D to D&D gamer nerds.  think about that for a moment and ponder what that implies about the corporate idiot Hasboro put in charge of WoTC.
 
2013-01-23 02:41:53 PM
Are they going to republish the Deities and Demigods with the H.P. Lovecraft mythologies?
 
2013-01-23 02:42:37 PM

Weaver95: I hope they get around to posing the original Eberron stuff.  it wasn't for everyone but I liked the product line. damn shame WoTC up and abandoned it.  I think it had serious potential.


[notsureifserious.jpg]

Magic trains and dinosaurs, dude.
 
2013-01-23 02:43:07 PM

Weaver95: WoTC is behind the bell curve on this one.  paizo and several other companies grabbed hold of the digital sales market 5 years ago and 1. hammered out the technical issues long, long ago and 2. established trust with their customers and built up a reputation for selling a quality product at a decent price.  Paizo has even started including digital maps specifically designed to work with tablet computers, and that will 'layer in' DM info, then remove it at a touch so players can look at it and use it during play.

not saying WoTC can't make a go of this tech but...they've shot themselves in BOTH feet, then decided to run a marathon race 20 min after the starting gun went off.


Yeah, Paizo really has the whole digital distribution thing worked out. I buy physical copies of all their hardback "big" releases, and PDFs of the little 36 page supplements. They also have an extremely expansive SRD, which is endlessly useful. WoTC needs to use them as a model for ensuring customer loyalty.
 
2013-01-23 02:43:52 PM

Mr. Cat Poop: Why did I have any expectation that these would be free downloads?


At one time, there was a 40GB download of virtually every mainstream RPG and supplement floating around on torrent sites. If you seriously just wanted to look, it's already out there.
 
2013-01-23 02:43:58 PM

KingsleyZisou: That looks cool. Quest is super fun. Many a night has bled into the next day as we flip tiles and fight monsters. If you like sci fi Space Hulk is a good squad based tactical game. No level advancement is its major draw back.


How in the hell is a terminator marine going to level up? They are already damn near the pinnacle of badass, and I'm pretty sure "becoming a primarch" is off the table.
 
2013-01-23 02:46:17 PM

JohnnyC: I've been looking for a good D&D game to get into... I moved to a new town where I don't know anyone. I have kids and spend a good portion of my time taking care of them and don't get out of the house a whole lot. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a good game.

I was in a game a year ago... but a couple of the players moved away, the other two, who hosted the game, decided they weren't going to play anymore, and that left just me and the DM. The DM found a new guy to host it who had a gaming room and was really into tabletop RPGs and what not. Some new players were found and a game was set up. I went and the new host, who usually DMs games, turned out to be one of those players who just steps all over everyone else's play. He was constantly interrupting, claiming that other players didn't do what they just said they were doing, and generally being a control freak. He did that to me twice before I politely excused myself from the game and never went back.

Since then I've been checking various websites and what not to try and find a game. The local gaming shop players mostly play Magic The Gathering and Warhammer 40k stuff... Not much D&D or Pathfinder unfortunately. So... still haven't found a game to join. Which kind of sucks. *shrug*

Also... the link appears to be dead...


HUG, try organizing a game via Skype and Maptools online, it's what the fark Pathfinder group is doing currently.

My Husband and I have a similar experience as you, great group that ended because 2 players moved cross-country. I'm thinking about getting the group together again, maybe play a totally OP 4e version of Tomb of Horrors.
 
2013-01-23 02:46:41 PM

JohnnyC: I've been looking for a good D&D game to get into... I moved to a new town where I don't know anyone. I have kids and spend a good portion of my time taking care of them and don't get out of the house a whole lot. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a good game.

I was in a game a year ago... but a couple of the players moved away, the other two, who hosted the game, decided they weren't going to play anymore, and that left just me and the DM. The DM found a new guy to host it who had a gaming room and was really into tabletop RPGs and what not. Some new players were found and a game was set up. I went and the new host, who usually DMs games, turned out to be one of those players who just steps all over everyone else's play. He was constantly interrupting, claiming that other players didn't do what they just said they were doing, and generally being a control freak. He did that to me twice before I politely excused myself from the game and never went back.

Since then I've been checking various websites and what not to try and find a game. The local gaming shop players mostly play Magic The Gathering and Warhammer 40k stuff... Not much D&D or Pathfinder unfortunately. So... still haven't found a game to join. Which kind of sucks. *shrug*

Also... the link appears to be dead...


Me? Is that you?

Oh, wait. I don't have kids. Or a gaming shop nearby.
 
2013-01-23 02:51:52 PM
Is D&D the most successful form of birth control?
 
2013-01-23 02:53:16 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: CygnusDarius: Elandriel: Behold the triumphant return of THAC0!!

Fark that shiat.

/Lived through the dying days to 2nd
//And then unto 3rd and 3.5
///Hated 4e, and I'm sticking with Pathfinder

* Internet fist-bump *

I've checked out the Paizo merchandise too, and it looks pretty good. Too bad all of my gaming is of the MMO variety these days....


/ less time to create and run a campaign ( RL work)
// lost touch with most of my old RPG crowd over the years...
/// most of my current friends & acquaintances would have no interest in this stuff...


If you're interested in Pathfinder, because of the use of the Open Gaming License, all of the base rules and content are available for free here: Pathfinder Player Reference Document.

And if you need to find players, the Pathfinder Society is a great open play environment that has contacts and games throughout the country (and world, too, as it's been expanding). Email is in my profile if you have any questions.
 
2013-01-23 02:54:11 PM

tbhouston: you nerds use paper and pen?? i'm a LARPER and we do it in real life


What is this I don't even.... Did you just troll yourself?
 
2013-01-23 02:54:15 PM

ph0rk: Weaver95: I hope they get around to posing the original Eberron stuff.  it wasn't for everyone but I liked the product line. damn shame WoTC up and abandoned it.  I think it had serious potential.

[notsureifserious.jpg]

Magic trains and dinosaurs, dude.


And artificers, a nation of undead worshiping blood cultists, a shadow war of demons and angels, plus lovecraftian horrors and a cease fire in bloody dynastic war that might flare up again at any moment.  machinations of the Dragonmarked Houses, the destruction of Cyre.  not to mention a continent of mind controlling dream horrors that are trying to make sure that the ENTIRE human race has the exact same dream all night, every night...until they die of old age, and another 'lost' continent of cyclopean ruins, ancient magic and powerful magical secrets.
 
2013-01-23 02:54:32 PM

Felonius Monk: Forbidden Doughnut: CygnusDarius: Elandriel: Behold the triumphant return of THAC0!!

Fark that shiat.

/Lived through the dying days to 2nd
//And then unto 3rd and 3.5
///Hated 4e, and I'm sticking with Pathfinder

* Internet fist-bump *

I've checked out the Paizo merchandise too, and it looks pretty good. Too bad all of my gaming is of the MMO variety these days....


/ less time to create and run a campaign ( RL work)
// lost touch with most of my old RPG crowd over the years...
/// most of my current friends & acquaintances would have no interest in this stuff...

If you're interested in Pathfinder, because of the use of the Open Gaming License, all of the base rules and content are available for free here: Pathfinder Player Reference Document.

And if you need to find players, the Pathfinder Society is a great open play environment that has contacts and games throughout the country (and world, too, as it's been expanding). Email is in my profile if you have any questions.


Link is the resource I use.
 
2013-01-23 02:54:51 PM

Haoie: Is D&D the most successful form of birth control?


no, that would be evangelical Christianity and pokemon.
 
2013-01-23 02:57:48 PM

Haoie: Is D&D the most successful form of birth control?


It's kind of like the 15th level of birth control... you know, in the extremely rare case that the poor hygene, awkward social skills, fear of members of the opposite sex, lack of money, chronic masturbation, hairy backs, neck-beards, living in your parents basement, etc. etc. all fail.
 
2013-01-23 02:59:19 PM
I have "Stairway to Heaven" stuck in my head for some reason.
 
2013-01-23 03:00:02 PM

Weaver95: as I said many times before when this was announced yesterday...while I applaud this effort and believe it to be a VERY good business move...it's far far too little and very late to the table.  about 5 years too late, in fact.  WoTC is attempting to reverse the damage done to their business model by a CEO who is/was a f*cking moron with no understanding of his target market or the genre he was selling.  But hey, he got his golden parachute so go capitalism go!

*sigh*

sorry.  i'm only slightly bitter about that.  again, WoTC is behind the bell curve on this one.  paizo and several other companies grabbed hold of the digital sales market 5 years ago and 1. hammered out the technical issues long, long ago and 2. established trust with their customers and built up a reputation for selling a quality product at a decent price.  Paizo has even started including digital maps specifically designed to work with tablet computers, and that will 'layer in' DM info, then remove it at a touch so players can look at it and use it during play.

not saying WoTC can't make a go of this tech but...they've shot themselves in BOTH feet, then decided to run a marathon race 20 min after the starting gun went off.


Your analogy cracks me up.

Hide behind the pile of dead bards!
 
2013-01-23 03:00:27 PM
Viva la OSR!

All ya'll looking at these old school releases, do know there's been a bit of a revival of late.

Swords and Wizardry
OSRIC
Astonishing Swordsman & Sorcerers of Hyperborea
Adventurer, Conqueror, King
Lamentations of the Flame Princess
Labyrinth Lord
Delving Deeper
Dungeon Crawl Classics RPG

and more.

Google them, read them, play them.
 
2013-01-23 03:01:34 PM

ph0rk: KingsleyZisou: That looks cool. Quest is super fun. Many a night has bled into the next day as we flip tiles and fight monsters. If you like sci fi Space Hulk is a good squad based tactical game. No level advancement is its major draw back.

How in the hell is a terminator marine going to level up? They are already damn near the pinnacle of badass, and I'm pretty sure "becoming a primarch" is off the table.


I'm just saying the mechanic isn't present. And that mechanic is something OP wanted in a game. But to answer your question, he's level up to a Terminator Squad Sergeant ;)

/+1 WS son!
 
2013-01-23 03:02:28 PM
RANDOM HARLOT ENCOUNTERS FTW!
 
2013-01-23 03:02:57 PM

shortymac: JohnnyC: I've been looking for a good D&D game to get into... I moved to a new town where I don't know anyone. I have kids and spend a good portion of my time taking care of them and don't get out of the house a whole lot. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a good game.

I was in a game a year ago... but a couple of the players moved away, the other two, who hosted the game, decided they weren't going to play anymore, and that left just me and the DM. The DM found a new guy to host it who had a gaming room and was really into tabletop RPGs and what not. Some new players were found and a game was set up. I went and the new host, who usually DMs games, turned out to be one of those players who just steps all over everyone else's play. He was constantly interrupting, claiming that other players didn't do what they just said they were doing, and generally being a control freak. He did that to me twice before I politely excused myself from the game and never went back.

Since then I've been checking various websites and what not to try and find a game. The local gaming shop players mostly play Magic The Gathering and Warhammer 40k stuff... Not much D&D or Pathfinder unfortunately. So... still haven't found a game to join. Which kind of sucks. *shrug*

Also... the link appears to be dead...

HUG, try organizing a game via Skype and Maptools online, it's what the fark Pathfinder group is doing currently.

My Husband and I have a similar experience as you, great group that ended because 2 players moved cross-country. I'm thinking about getting the group together again, maybe play a totally OP 4e version of Tomb of Horrors.


I'm running a game for some friends who are all in a similar situation. I got married and had a kid which doesn't leave me much time to game, one of my players is a college buddy who I used to get together with to play D&D but now lives an hour away, my brother-in-law who lives 14 hours away, and another gaming buddy who lives about 3 hours away.

I'm running it on a forum. Wrote a dice bot for the shoutbox (that I also wrote), and just have slightly different posting rules for in and out of combat. Really encourages RP more than even getting together for table top (and light-years beyond any RP you'll find in an MMO), lets people play at a leisurely pace when time allows and it seems to be going really well so far.
 
2013-01-23 03:03:07 PM
i checked it really rather incomplete after i searched "planescape"
 
2013-01-23 03:04:02 PM
I remember the boxes and mud dice.  Loved those dice.
If Demonoid was still around, I bet it would explode.
 
2013-01-23 03:04:10 PM

Corporate Mofo: RANDOM HARLOT ENCOUNTERS FTW!


just don't try that in real life.  it probably won't work out so well.  um...or so I've heard.
 
2013-01-23 03:04:41 PM
Please tell me they will have this in a monster manual.
 
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