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(Telegraph)   We have many cases of honour killings, where the families are law abiding, educated and respectable people, and were liberal towards their children. They later on went to kill their children to save their honour   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 131
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2013-01-23 09:59:53 AM  
Behold the great burgeoning democracy.
 
2013-01-23 10:05:57 AM  
According to campaigners there are up to 10,000 'honour killings' in India every year. Most of the victims are young women killed by their fathers and brothers over 'forbidden' relationships or for insisting on marrying a man they love.

The audacity!
 
2013-01-23 10:28:30 AM  
Things like make me really thankful for the current level of western civilization I live in.
 
2013-01-23 10:34:34 AM  
FTA: "Caste elders regard the practice as akin to incest even though the individuals are not related."
- "marrying within their sub-caste risked creating deformed children" - "we have seen girls and boys taking to each other at odd times and fixing dates on mobiles, which in many cases have led to rapes"

These people have nuclear weapons
 
2013-01-23 10:37:42 AM  

DownDaRiver: FTA: "Caste elders regard the practice as akin to incest even though the individuals are not related."
- "marrying within their sub-caste risked creating deformed children" - "we have seen girls and boys taking to each other at odd times and fixing dates on mobiles, which in many cases have led to rapes"

These people have nuclear weapons


Yes. And up until about a hundred or so years ago it was a not-unheard-of practice for widows to burn themselves alive on their husband's funeral pyre there.
 
2013-01-23 10:53:48 AM  
My dad almost killed me for not getting a real job straight out of law school.  So, I can relate.

Cythraul: Yes. And up until about a hundred or so years ago it was a not-unheard-of practice for widows to burn themselves alive on their husband's funeral pyre there.


I seem to recall sometimes the widow's in-laws burning unwilling women alive as well.  Cultural tolerance is a tricky thing.
 
2013-01-23 11:12:56 AM  

Cythraul: DownDaRiver: FTA:

These people have nuclear weapons

Yes. And up until about a hundred or so years ago it was a not-unheard-of practice for widows to burn themselves alive on their husband's funeral pyre there.


And 2,400 years ago when your white ancestors were doing human sacrifice and drowning people in swamps, they wrote the Mahabharata.
 
2013-01-23 11:13:15 AM  
Those who break long-standing customs by marrying within their sub-caste risked creating deformed children, he claimed.

www.benzworld.org
 
2013-01-23 11:14:18 AM  
Predicted FARK response: OMG Christians are so backward and scary!!!!!
 
2013-01-23 11:15:40 AM  

Raharu: Things like make me really thankful for the current level of western civilization I live in.


We're working on correcting that.
 
2013-01-23 11:16:31 AM  

Cythraul: According to campaigners there are up to 10,000 'honour killings' in India every year. Most of the victims are young women killed by their fathers and brothers over 'forbidden' relationships or for insisting on marrying a man they love.

The audacity!


They are protecting traditional marriage at least. We need to go back to the good old days of marriage being a business contract between the father and groom to decide on property rights and making political alliances. This marriage for love garbage is a corruption of such a holy institution.
 
2013-01-23 11:16:46 AM  

4tehsnowflakes: Cythraul: DownDaRiver: FTA:

These people have nuclear weapons

Yes. And up until about a hundred or so years ago it was a not-unheard-of practice for widows to burn themselves alive on their husband's funeral pyre there.

And 2,400 years ago when your white ancestors were doing human sacrifice and drowning people in swamps, they wrote the Mahabharata.


So what you're saying is that your brown ancestors haven't managed to develop being writing fan-fiction in 2,400 years?
 
2013-01-23 11:17:20 AM  
uncle dad and aunt ma must have loved these two
 
2013-01-23 11:18:40 AM  
FTA: According to campaigners there are up to 10,000 'honour killings' in India every year.
Gotta keep them biatches in their place?
 
2013-01-23 11:18:50 AM  

Chach: Predicted FARK response: OMG Christians are so backward and scary!!!!!


Failed prediction is a failure.
 
2013-01-23 11:20:23 AM  
Well, this doesn't caste them in a good light at all.
 
2013-01-23 11:21:11 AM  
I think honor killings should be legal for anyone that works technical support over there.
 
2013-01-23 11:21:53 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: Well, this doesn't caste them in a good light at all.


You hit it right on the dot.
 
2013-01-23 11:24:24 AM  
Look, I know that the backlash can be awful, but there are few things in life more satisfying than watching a bunch of terrified old men lose their grip on power.
 
2013-01-23 11:25:01 AM  
Perhaps before they go around killing people, they should Sikh help.
 
2013-01-23 11:26:13 AM  

4tehsnowflakes: Cythraul: DownDaRiver: FTA:

These people have nuclear weapons

Yes. And up until about a hundred or so years ago it was a not-unheard-of practice for widows to burn themselves alive on their husband's funeral pyre there.

And 2,400 years ago when your white ancestors were doing human sacrifice and drowning people in swamps, they wrote the Mahabharata.


Let us all act according to national customs.
 
2013-01-23 11:26:21 AM  
This in part proves that organized religion makes even the most intelligent of us into derp spewing children killing "IMOTEP" chanting zombies. Seriously, if the loving "god" of your religion tells you to murder your children or others to retain your family "honor" you may want to switch to a less draconian belief system. How about one that embraces love, and tolerance, and respect of all other cultures and beliefs? Pull yourself out of your idolatrous pagan belief system and join the rest of the world.
 
2013-01-23 11:27:33 AM  

Cythraul: DownDaRiver: FTA: "Caste elders regard the practice as akin to incest even though the individuals are not related."
- "marrying within their sub-caste risked creating deformed children" - "we have seen girls and boys taking to each other at odd times and fixing dates on mobiles, which in many cases have led to rapes"

These people have nuclear weapons

Yes. And up until about a hundred or so years ago it was a not-unheard-of practice for widows to burn themselves alive on their husband's funeral pyre there.


I loved my husband but holy crap
 
2013-01-23 11:28:10 AM  
Women in India can vote right? So...
 
2013-01-23 11:29:10 AM  
I thought this would have been an article about Turks, guess I was wrong.
 
2013-01-23 11:29:25 AM  

4tehsnowflakes: Cythraul: DownDaRiver: FTA:

These people have nuclear weapons

Yes. And up until about a hundred or so years ago it was a not-unheard-of practice for widows to burn themselves alive on their husband's funeral pyre there.

And 2,400 years ago when your white ancestors were doing human sacrifice and drowning people in swamps, they wrote the Mahabharata.


...and then the culture stopped progressing.

These people are as bad as the Pakistanis that they hate. We should just let these guys just Nuke it out.
 
2013-01-23 11:30:37 AM  
How do you act as a leader of a caste system?
 
2013-01-23 11:30:42 AM  
Ah, another religiously buggered mind, promoting the killing of non-violent, peaceful people just wanting some alone time with each other, then claiming they too love peace

/bunch of hypocrisy if I ever saw it
 
2013-01-23 11:34:15 AM  
This is why it's okay to kill brown people.

/savages
 
2013-01-23 11:35:03 AM  
According to campaigners there are up to 10,000 'honour killings' in India every year. Most of the victims are young women killed by their fathers and brothers over 'forbidden' relationships or for insisting on marrying a man they love.

/And the sad thing is, it's not about honor at all, it's about..wait for it.....CASH. They sell their daughters over there in prearranged marriages for a "dowry" or as i like to call it, "pimping off your underage daughter for fun and profit." If a girl chooses who she wishes to marry, well, there goes the payoff to the money grubbing father. In a usual marriage, the woman has 0 say over who she is going to be with, she's usually very very young, and the guy who wants her is usually some old lecher who wants to pay to have underage poon in his bed. As long as the money is right, the dads have no problem letting some old bastard rape his daughter. And the really sad thing is? They generally wont tell the girl that shes going to live with the guy, they will tell her that they are going "shopping" or "to a movie" or some bullshiat, then drop her off at the lechers house to be raped. Nice huh?

It's the same in vietnam, the people in the country often take a "loan" from a shark in the city, and their young daughters must move to the city where they will be pimped off until the loan is paid back.

Seriously people, lets just try to have some vague resemblance to human beings. Can we?
 
2013-01-23 11:36:17 AM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: My dad almost killed me for not getting a real job straight out of law school.  So, I can relate.

Cythraul: Yes. And up until about a hundred or so years ago it was a not-unheard-of practice for widows to burn themselves alive on their husband's funeral pyre there.

I seem to recall sometimes the widow's in-laws burning unwilling women alive as well.  Cultural tolerance is a tricky thing.


Yeah, that's one practice the British were keen to stamp out. The locals said it's tradition, and the local British commander basically said, fine, go with it. And afterwards, we'll go with the British tradition of taking people who burn women alive and suspending them from their necks until they're dead.
 
2013-01-23 11:37:16 AM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Cultural tolerance is a tricky thing.


No, it is not.

Cultural tolerance does not mean you accept anything and everything. When a culture fails to uphold each individuals dignity and equality it is not afforded tolerance.
 
2013-01-23 11:38:14 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: Perhaps before they go around killing people, they should Sikh help.


IIRC, the Sikhs broke away from Hinduism because of this caste BS...
 
2013-01-23 11:38:39 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: According to campaigners there are up to 10,000 'honour killings' in India every year. Most of the victims are young women killed by their fathers and brothers over 'forbidden' relationships or for insisting on marrying a man they love.

/And the sad thing is, it's not about honor at all, it's about..wait for it.....CASH. They sell their daughters over there in prearranged marriages for a "dowry" or as i like to call it, "pimping off your underage daughter for fun and profit." If a girl chooses who she wishes to marry, well, there goes the payoff to the money grubbing father. In a usual marriage, the woman has 0 say over who she is going to be with, she's usually very very young, and the guy who wants her is usually some old lecher who wants to pay to have underage poon in his bed. As long as the money is right, the dads have no problem letting some old bastard rape his daughter. And the really sad thing is? They generally wont tell the girl that shes going to live with the guy, they will tell her that they are going "shopping" or "to a movie" or some bullshiat, then drop her off at the lechers house to be raped. Nice huh?

It's the same in vietnam, the people in the country often take a "loan" from a shark in the city, and their young daughters must move to the city where they will be pimped off until the loan is paid back.

Seriously people, lets just try to have some vague resemblance to human beings. Can we?


I thought Indian dowries go from the woman's family to the man's. It's why having a girl is expensive and why they're aborted left and right.

/Oh, and dowries are illegal in India and have been for decades.
 
2013-01-23 11:38:53 AM  
FTA: "Our suggestions to women not to use mobile phones, [wear]tight clothing or mingle with the opposite sex is based on ground realities. We are not anti-women and have no intention to curb their freedom but we have seen girls and boys taking to each other at odd times and fixing dates on mobiles, which in many cases have led to rapes We believe that individuals from opposite genders should not mingle too much, if they do, its like sprinkling petrol on fire," he said.

Yeah, because phones are the reason there are rapes.

How about you actually prosecute people committing crimes, for starters. That might help a bit.  Removing that caste system would help, too.

/And yet another example of "I'm not against x, but here's some things that show that I'm against x."
 
2013-01-23 11:39:46 AM  

manimal2878: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Cultural tolerance is a tricky thing.

No, it is not.

Cultural tolerance does not mean you accept anything and everything. When a culture fails to uphold each individuals dignity and equality it is not afforded tolerance.


People who biatch about tolerance aren't good at nuance.  They like black and white conditions, not conditional acceptance.
 
2013-01-23 11:40:25 AM  
Isn't organized religion just wonderful, everybody?
 
2013-01-23 11:42:30 AM  

JohnAnnArbor: Bit'O'Gristle: According to campaigners there are up to 10,000 'honour killings' in India every year. Most of the victims are young women killed by their fathers and brothers over 'forbidden' relationships or for insisting on marrying a man they love.

/And the sad thing is, it's not about honor at all, it's about..wait for it.....CASH. They sell their daughters over there in prearranged marriages for a "dowry" or as i like to call it, "pimping off your underage daughter for fun and profit." If a girl chooses who she wishes to marry, well, there goes the payoff to the money grubbing father. In a usual marriage, the woman has 0 say over who she is going to be with, she's usually very very young, and the guy who wants her is usually some old lecher who wants to pay to have underage poon in his bed. As long as the money is right, the dads have no problem letting some old bastard rape his daughter. And the really sad thing is? They generally wont tell the girl that shes going to live with the guy, they will tell her that they are going "shopping" or "to a movie" or some bullshiat, then drop her off at the lechers house to be raped. Nice huh?

It's the same in vietnam, the people in the country often take a "loan" from a shark in the city, and their young daughters must move to the city where they will be pimped off until the loan is paid back.

Seriously people, lets just try to have some vague resemblance to human beings. Can we?

I thought Indian dowries go from the woman's family to the man's. It's why having a girl is expensive and why they're aborted left and right.

/Oh, and dowries are illegal in India and have been for decades.


/really...that doesn't seem to be stopping them. read the news at all?
 
2013-01-23 11:43:29 AM  

Chach: Predicted FARK response: OMG Christians are so backward and scary!!!!!


No, you see Sikhs and Hindus are BAD brown people, because they haven't beheaded any journalists, film directors, or humanitarian workers in recent memory for criticizing them, committing blasphemy, or offending them in an unspecified way.

/they're even worse than Christians and Jews Zionists
//their skin color and poverty tricks inexperienced progressives into thinking they're just as progressive as Islam, but they're not
 
2013-01-23 11:46:25 AM  
I don't think we are in a grey area here. Killing children would colours your honour.
 
2013-01-23 11:50:14 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Madman drummers bummers: Perhaps before they go around killing people, they should Sikh help.

IIRC, the Sikhs broke away from Hinduism because of this caste BS...


And according to the UN, over 90% of the honor killings in the world are perpetrated by Muslims.
 
2013-01-23 11:50:18 AM  
C'mon folks, let's get our priorities straight here. Kill your kids if you want (as my mother still tells me, "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it") but stop throwing all these u's around!
 
2013-01-23 11:51:02 AM  

The Angry Hand of God: Madman drummers bummers: Well, this doesn't caste them in a good light at all.

You hit it right on the dot.


You should both be very sari for those jokes.
 
2013-01-23 11:51:28 AM  

obamadidcoke: 4tehsnowflakes: Cythraul: DownDaRiver: FTA:

These people have nuclear weapons

Yes. And up until about a hundred or so years ago it was a not-unheard-of practice for widows to burn themselves alive on their husband's funeral pyre there.

And 2,400 years ago when your white ancestors were doing human sacrifice and drowning people in swamps, they wrote the Mahabharata.

...and then the culture stopped progressing.

These people are as bad as the Pakistanis that they hate. We should just let these guys just Nuke it out.



There seems to be a rather significant contradiction in your post.  Can you spot it?
 
2013-01-23 11:53:23 AM  

JohnAnnArbor: Bit'O'Gristle: According to campaigners there are up to 10,000 'honour killings' in India every year. Most of the victims are young women killed by their fathers and brothers over 'forbidden' relationships or for insisting on marrying a man they love.

/And the sad thing is, it's not about honor at all, it's about..wait for it.....CASH. They sell their daughters over there in prearranged marriages for a "dowry" or as i like to call it, "pimping off your underage daughter for fun and profit." If a girl chooses who she wishes to marry, well, there goes the payoff to the money grubbing father. In a usual marriage, the woman has 0 say over who she is going to be with, she's usually very very young, and the guy who wants her is usually some old lecher who wants to pay to have underage poon in his bed. As long as the money is right, the dads have no problem letting some old bastard rape his daughter. And the really sad thing is? They generally wont tell the girl that shes going to live with the guy, they will tell her that they are going "shopping" or "to a movie" or some bullshiat, then drop her off at the lechers house to be raped. Nice huh?

It's the same in vietnam, the people in the country often take a "loan" from a shark in the city, and their young daughters must move to the city where they will be pimped off until the loan is paid back.

Seriously people, lets just try to have some vague resemblance to human beings. Can we?

I thought Indian dowries go from the woman's family to the man's. It's why having a girl is expensive and why they're aborted left and right.

/Oh, and dowries are illegal in India and have been for decades.


He's confusing dowry with bride price which is an African practice
 
2013-01-23 11:54:11 AM  

Chach: Predicted FARK response: OMG Christians are so backward and scary!!!!!


Yes, let's not forget who the real victims are here!
 
2013-01-23 11:55:22 AM  
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Of course if they accessorize properly ladies can wear whatever they want wherever they want.
"Which one is your favorite testicle?"
 
2013-01-23 11:57:14 AM  

palelizard: The Angry Hand of God: Madman drummers bummers: Well, this doesn't caste them in a good light at all.

You hit it right on the dot.

You should both be very sari for those jokes.


At least you got in one punjab at them
 
2013-01-23 11:57:59 AM  

DownDaRiver: FTA: "Caste elders regard the practice as akin to incest even though the individuals are not related."
- "marrying within their sub-caste risked creating deformed children" - "we have seen girls and boys taking to each other at odd times and fixing dates on mobiles, which in many cases have led to rapes"

These people have nuclear weapons


So do we and half the country wanted the likes of Sara Palin ad Mitt Romney to lead it.

Don't go feeling all superior now.
 
2013-01-23 11:58:03 AM  

4tehsnowflakes: Cythraul: DownDaRiver: FTA:

These people have nuclear weapons

Yes. And up until about a hundred or so years ago it was a not-unheard-of practice for widows to burn themselves alive on their husband's funeral pyre there.

And 2,400 years ago when your white ancestors were doing human sacrifice and drowning people in swamps, they wrote the Mahabharata.


So we have progressed, and they have not. That was the point you were trying to make, right?
 
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