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2013-01-23 10:35:58 AM  
Fear simmering in Thailand; foreigners considering boycott

I know this stuff keeps me from wanting to go there.
 
2013-01-23 11:13:58 AM  
Man, you can't say anything about that goatfarking king.
 
2013-01-23 11:28:43 AM  
Nice to be in a country where we can spout off about our leadership and call them all kinds of names with zero consequence. Most people in the world don't have that.
 
2013-01-23 11:43:43 AM  
I just wanted to stop in and say how much I admire and appreciate our beloved President Obama, Vice President Biden, their staff, and all of the other patriot politicians who work so hard and sacrifice so much to make the United States the freest, happiest, and most wonderful place on Earth.

God Bless America!
 
2013-01-23 11:44:05 AM  
So he didn't curry favor with the right people? Bad Thai!
 
2013-01-23 11:45:14 AM  
Thailand's monarchy suck. They can go shove the Chakiri Narubet up their wide, disgusting ars-hang on, someone's knocking on the door.
 
2013-01-23 11:45:17 AM  
I just wanted to stop in and say how much I admire and appreciate our beloved President Obama, Vice President Biden, their staff, and all of the other patriot politicians who work so hard and sacrifice so much to make the United States the freest, happiest, and most wonderful place on Earth.

God Bless America!
 
2013-01-23 11:45:59 AM  

notmtwain: Fear simmering in Thailand; foreigners considering boycott

I know this stuff keeps me from wanting to go there.


sweden is cold in winter.
 
2013-01-23 11:46:55 AM  
It gets crazier. It's not just insults that land you in jail, but anything they're willing to interpret as an insult.
 
2013-01-23 11:48:04 AM  

notmtwain: Fear simmering in Thailand; foreigners considering boycott

I know this stuff keeps me from wanting to go there.


You're missing out. The lesse majeste(sp) law is taken very seriously there because the monarchy has done a lot to keep the country together through multiple coups over the past 50 or so years.
 
2013-01-23 11:49:02 AM  
I just wanted to stop in and say how much I admire and appreciate our beloved President Obama, Vice President Biden, their staff, and all of the other patriot politicians who work so hard and sacrifice so much to make the United States the freest, happiest, and most wonderful place on Earth.

God Bless America!
 
2013-01-23 11:49:10 AM  
Yes, Your majesty, you warthog-faced buffoon, I will insult you, and I will use small words to be sure you understand me, you miserable, vomitous, mass
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-23 11:49:40 AM  
I hear that Thai king is the guy in the goatse picture.
 
2013-01-23 11:49:47 AM  

Fluid: It gets crazier. It's not just insults that land you in jail, but anything they're willing to interpret as an insult.


I heard a story about a Brit who got five years for drawing a mustache on a portrait of the King. Don't even think about defacing or stepping on any paper currency either.
 
2013-01-23 11:50:58 AM  
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Jammy Thai monarch!
I give all my subjects left nuttage for the opportunity to behead Rupert Murdoch!
 
2013-01-23 11:51:12 AM  
Don't step on if it is lying on the ground that has pictures of the monarchy on it. you can then be tried under this law ! Very progressive country. Nice beer also.
 
2013-01-23 11:52:13 AM  
Sorry don't step on the currency.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-23 11:52:58 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

A hard man humble,
 
2013-01-23 11:54:15 AM  

Bronzemom: Sorry don't step on the currency.


I usually pick money u[p off the ground. I'm not wealthy enough to walk on money, chortle softly to myself, and walk on my merry way to a Turkish bath made with water from an Antarctic lake, then to be massaged by a harem of women.
 
2013-01-23 11:55:20 AM  
How do the ladyboys feel about the King?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-23 11:55:46 AM  

Surly U. Jest: I just wanted to stop in and say how much I admire and appreciate our beloved President Obama, Vice President Biden, their staff, and all of the other patriot politicians who work so hard and sacrifice so much to make the United States the freest, happiest, and most wonderful place on Earth.

God Bless America!


If what you were implying here were true then there aren't enough firing squads to get every person that slings random shiat at Obama.

And people talked about "Bush derangement." Usually the complaints then had SOME sort of objective basis.
 
2013-01-23 11:56:16 AM  
Enh. I enjoy the place. But then again, I don't go out of my way to be an ass.

Been there during SARS and coups. You know what changed? Nothing. Went for a run and later went to the mall and watched a movie.
 
2013-01-23 11:57:52 AM  

darth_badger: How do the ladyboys feel about the King?


He's a pretty cool guy who isn't afraid.
 
2013-01-23 11:57:59 AM  

Bronzemom: Sorry don't step on the currency.


But then how will I secure it for a couple seconds to make sure nobody is looking before I pick it up and whistle as I walk away?
 
2013-01-23 12:01:32 PM  
Oh, thought the King was still busy working as a ladyboy at the big truckstop on I10.
 
2013-01-23 12:01:39 PM  
I've seen a good number of Farkers who would advocate for something similar here. They usually dress their sentiments up as "respect the Office," though, and claim to feel that way no matter which Party is in charge.
 
2013-01-23 12:15:22 PM  

xynix: Nice to be in a country where we can spout off about our leadership and call them all kinds of names with zero consequence. Most people in the world don't have that.


Bollocks. People all over the world can criticise your leadership consequence-free.
 
2013-01-23 12:17:44 PM  

darth_badger: How do the ladyboys feel about the King?


With their soft, gentle, manicured, oil-dipped hands.
 
2013-01-23 12:20:10 PM  

Magorn: Yes, Your majesty, you warthog-faced buffoon, I will insult you, and I will use small words to be sure you understand me, you miserable, vomitous, mass


imagine the brick he'll shiat when it turns out you DO have the strength (to stand) after all.

/drop, your, sword
//have a seat
 
2013-01-23 12:22:08 PM  

notmtwain: Fear simmering in Thailand; foreigners considering boycott

I know this stuff keeps me from wanting to go there.


You're seriously missing out, Thailand is probably my favorite country to visit. Just don't step on the money or say anything bad about the king.

AFAIK, Thai police won't hassle you unless you're making a scene/trying to get attention. I wasn't worried when I spent a month there last year.
 
2013-01-23 12:22:46 PM  

KangTheMad: Bronzemom: Sorry don't step on the currency.

I usually pick money u[p off the ground. I'm not wealthy enough to walk on money, chortle softly to myself, and walk on my merry way to a Turkish bath made with water from an Antarctic lake, then to be massaged by a harem of women.


Are you spying on me?
 
2013-01-23 12:28:01 PM  
In European monotheistic belief systems, the king is chosen by god. In Asian polytheistic belief systems, the king is a god. To criticize him is blasphemy. Religion is the problem here.
 
2013-01-23 12:33:25 PM  
My understanding from talking to folks who actually live in Thailand is that the majority of them kinda like the monarchy. They get his birthday as a day off from work.

Of course their communications may have been monitored. Who knows?
Me, I like freedom of speech. I've never lived in a developing nation in Southeast Asia, though.
 
2013-01-23 12:34:21 PM  

Gordon Bennett: xynix: Nice to be in a country where we can spout off about our leadership and call them all kinds of names with zero consequence. Most people in the world don't have that.
img.spokeo.com

Bollocks. People all over the world can criticise your leadership consequence-free.


What did Jim J. ever do to you?!
 
2013-01-23 12:36:56 PM  
The King of Thailand, huh? How is that donkey-raping kiddy diddler doing these days?
 
2013-01-23 12:38:38 PM  
My understanding is that normally this stuff is done to target political opponents. Whichever party is in power uses this law to get guys who work for the other side. Basically claim any criticism of the government is the criticism of the king. Then the courts pass some long sentence, the King intercedes and says he wants the court to show mercy. The jail time is cut to weeks or months and the game continues.

The royal family is supposedly actually a decent bunch who use a lot of their wealth to invest in agriculture projects and raise the standard of living. One member of the family actually criticized this law, however since the royal family has no legislative power and the PM likes using the law to go after political opponents, it is unlikely to be changed.
 
2013-01-23 12:40:55 PM  
The Thai monarch sucks donkey and dog penises.
 
2013-01-23 12:49:25 PM  

ha-ha-guy: My understanding is that normally this stuff is done to target political opponents. Whichever party is in power uses this law to get guys who work for the other side. Basically claim any criticism of the government is the criticism of the king. Then the courts pass some long sentence, the King intercedes and says he wants the court to show mercy. The jail time is cut to weeks or months and the game continues.

The royal family is supposedly actually a decent bunch who use a lot of their wealth to invest in agriculture projects and raise the standard of living. One member of the family actually criticized this law, however since the royal family has no legislative power and the PM likes using the law to go after political opponents, it is unlikely to be changed.


THIS^ This is the truth.

The monarchy has never been the problem (well, except maybe in the early 20th century when Rama VI almost bankrupted the kingdom, but that was resolved). Outsiders keep crowing about how the monarchy needs to be abolished, but really, it's the goddamned parliament that's the problem.

Long live the King.

Looknig forward to my holiday in Thailand next week.
 
2013-01-23 12:53:41 PM  

Amos Quito: I just wanted to stop in and say how much I admire and appreciate our beloved President Obama, Vice President Biden, their staff, and all of the other patriot politicians who work so hard and sacrifice so much to make the United States the freest, happiest, and most wonderful place on Earth.

God Bless America!


North America is Best America!
 
2013-01-23 12:57:06 PM  
Same in Texas. Crime to criticize Texas vegetables or livestock or both. Oprah was tried for this. Apparently included elected officials running to national office.
 
2013-01-23 12:58:18 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: So he didn't curry favor with the right people? BadBaht Thai!


FTFY
 
2013-01-23 12:59:37 PM  
All these Asian countries seem to be run by pampered, privileged paranoid little pricks who only care about staying in power,

Unfortunately, any kind of sanction put to them by the West to stop being such assholes only strengthens their resolve.

Of course, there's the other approach, making deals with them so they will provide sweatshops to make our cheap crap.

Either way, it eds up screwing the "ordinary joes", while their ruling class continues their luxurious lifestyle.
 
2013-01-23 01:06:33 PM  
What has happened to GIS? I can't turn safesearch off anymore, WHA?!!

thaiintelligentnews.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-23 01:13:43 PM  

What the Fark Wizzbang: Gordon Bennett: xynix: Nice to be in a country where we can spout off about our leadership and call them all kinds of names with zero consequence. Most people in the world don't have that.
[img.spokeo.com image 364x600]

Bollocks. People all over the world can criticise your leadership consequence-free.

What did Jim J. ever do to you?!


Seriously? Have you ever sat down and actually tried to watch an entire episode of "Too Close for Comfort?" [shudders]
 
2013-01-23 01:20:27 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: All these Asian countries seem to be run by pampered, privileged paranoid little pricks who only care about staying in power,

Unfortunately, any kind of sanction put to them by the West to stop being such assholes only strengthens their resolve.

Of course, there's the other approach, making deals with them so they will provide sweatshops to make our cheap crap.

Either way, it ends up screwing the "ordinary joes", while their ruling class continues their luxurious lifestyle.


Corrected for greater accuracy.

You'd be a fool to think it doesn't happen here too.

However, we have a constitution and first amendment that protects our right to call out the little, shriveled pricks even if doing so ultimately accomplishes nothing.
 
2013-01-23 01:20:41 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: The Thai monarch sucks donkey and dog penises.


Enough with your lies. The donkey and dog were both female.
 
2013-01-23 01:23:08 PM  

KangTheMad: Bronzemom: Sorry don't step on the currency.

I usually pick money u[p off the ground. I'm not wealthy enough to walk on money, chortle softly to myself, and walk on my merry way to a Turkish bath made with water from an Antarctic lake, then to be massaged by a harem of women.


I think someone may have mislead you about Turkish baths.....
 
2013-01-23 01:24:59 PM  

Gordon Bennett: What the Fark Wizzbang: Gordon Bennett: xynix: Nice to be in a country where we can spout off about our leadership and call them all kinds of names with zero consequence. Most people in the world don't have that.
[img.spokeo.com image 364x600]

Bollocks. People all over the world can criticise your leadership consequence-free.

What did Jim J. ever do to you?!

Seriously? Have you ever sat down and actually tried to watch an entire episode of "Too Close for Comfort?" [shudders]


Apparently Ted Knight was a real grouch to work with as well.
 
2013-01-23 01:25:44 PM  

ha-ha-guy: My understanding is that normally this stuff is done to target political opponents. Whichever party is in power uses this law to get guys who work for the other side. Basically claim any criticism of the government is the criticism of the king. Then the courts pass some long sentence, the King intercedes and says he wants the court to show mercy. The jail time is cut to weeks or months and the game continues.

The royal family is supposedly actually a decent bunch who use a lot of their wealth to invest in agriculture projects and raise the standard of living. One member of the family actually criticized this law, however since the royal family has no legislative power and the PM likes using the law to go after political opponents, it is unlikely to be changed.


Yup, you pretty much nailed it.  At I'm pretty sure the King himself actually came out against the Lese-majesty law a number of years ago, but the Thai politicians love using it to harass each other too much to do away with it.  And as you said, usually the King will step in and commute the sentence a month or two after sentencing.

The history of the current king, and the king in general is a really interesting person.  Born in America, raised in Europe, an actual scientist and jazz musician.
 
2013-01-23 01:33:50 PM  

MNguy: notmtwain: Fear simmering in Thailand; foreigners considering boycott

I know this stuff keeps me from wanting to go there.

You're missing out. The lesse majeste(sp) law is taken very seriously there because the monarchy has done a lot to keep the country together through multiple coups over the past 50 or so years.


He's not missing out. Anyone who believes that freedom of speech is a human right not to be infringed by any government should express that belief by choosing not to patronize a country with such oppressive laws. A monarchy's past actions do not justify the lese majeste law or such a stiff sentence.

Also, a monarchy has a vested interest in keeping a country together, since the existence of the country is a necessary condition for the monarchy's existence. You could say it's kind of the monarchy's job. It's like a CEO has an interest in keeping a company operating since without that company the CEO is unemployed. People should be able to express if the CEO is doing a bad job though.
 
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