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(Politico)   Wayne LaPierre goes full Kahn, turns the Genesis Derpvice up to 11: "Obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word. He wants you, all of you,...to accept the idea of principles as he sees fit"   (politico.com) divider line 264
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2013-01-23 09:44:33 AM  
Can someone more talented than I photoshop LaPierre's face into Kahn's death scene from ST2?

/seems appropriate here
 
2013-01-23 09:46:39 AM  
Wayne LaPierre should shut the hell up.
 
2013-01-23 09:49:30 AM  
Crap, now that I think about it, I should have gone with "Derpedo" in the headline.

/ah, maybe next time
 
2013-01-23 09:54:02 AM  
LaPierre proceeded to attack the gun control platform Obama announced last week, saying that universal background checks for gun purchases would impede heirlooms being handed down within families

Well, that minor inconvenience is certainly more troublesome than two dozen children being massacred in their classroom.
 
2013-01-23 09:59:38 AM  

vartian: LaPierre proceeded to attack the gun control platform Obama announced last week, saying that universal background checks for gun purchases would impede heirlooms being handed down within families

Well, that minor inconvenience is certainly more troublesome than two dozen children being massacred in their classroom.


Like I said in one of the massive gun threads about a week ago, when it comes to heirlooms, the solution is easy:  Bring the guns in and register them under your name going forward.  No muss, no fuss, and since it's an heirloom, the registration fee is waived.
 
2013-01-23 10:01:48 AM  
Green?

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2013-01-23 10:12:59 AM  

vartian: LaPierre proceeded to attack the gun control platform Obama announced last week, saying that universal background checks for gun purchases would impede heirlooms being handed down within families

Well, that minor inconvenience is certainly more troublesome than two dozen children being massacred in their classroom.


We require state registration of vehicle sales, and in no way does it impede anyone's ability to buy or sell a car.  And LaPierre should shut the hell up.
 
2013-01-23 10:16:39 AM  
Last I checked, Wayne LaPierre is not an elected official in the United States government, and therefore can go fark himself.
 
2013-01-23 10:17:42 AM  
Well I'm glad the voice of the responsible gun owner has added to the debate.
 
2013-01-23 10:21:18 AM  

vartian: LaPierre proceeded to attack the gun control platform Obama announced last week, saying that universal background checks for gun purchases would impede heirlooms being handed down within families

Well, that minor inconvenience is certainly more troublesome than two dozen children being massacred in their classroom.


And what the hell does that really have to do with the 2nd Amendment?
 
2013-01-23 10:24:19 AM  
"Here's another group of mutants with missing chromosomes who ought to be thrown screaming from a helicopter. Gun enthusiasts. "Yeah, I'm a gun enthusiast." Oh yeah? Well I'm a blowjob enthusiast. Wanna see me shoot? Cock this and I'll discharge a load for you.  And speaking of mindless Hollywood cocksuckers, before Charlton Heston became President of these dickless lunatics in the NRA, they had a different guy. He's still one of their major spokesmen, and his name is Wayne LaPierre. Doesn't that sound a bit fruity to you? "Hi, I'm Wayne, I'm a gun person. Bang bang!" You know what this guy's name ought to be? Biff Webster. Spud Crowley, a man's name! Chuck Steak!"  -- George Carlin
 
2013-01-23 10:24:34 AM  
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
 
2013-01-23 10:24:58 AM  
"If the only way he can force you to give them up is through scorn and ridicule, believe me, he is more than willing to do it," Mr. LaPierre said.

I think he is confusing the President for us.
 
2013-01-23 10:25:31 AM  

GiantRex: Last I checked, Wayne LaPierre is not an elected official in the United States government, and therefore can go fark himself.


neither is grover norquist - yet they run the GOP and control an entire branch of government.
 
2013-01-23 10:26:04 AM  
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KAAAAAAAAAHHHN
 
2013-01-23 10:29:30 AM  
I thought Ancient Greek philosophers, Buddha, taoists and even early Christians had all come out against absolutism and declared moderation a virtue. But it turns out it was Obama all along.
 
2013-01-23 10:32:59 AM  

dahmers love zombie: Only a Sith deals in absolutes.


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2013-01-23 10:34:14 AM  
"He wants to put every private, personal firearms transaction right under the thumb of the federal government," LaPierre said. "He wants to keep all of those names in a massive federal registry

Massive federal registry of citizens who own firearms (something they own): Attack on liberty
Massive federal registry of citizens with mental health issues (who they  are): A-OK

These guys are all authoritarians at heart.
 
2013-01-23 10:40:18 AM  
Yeah, the old "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" thing really sells with the American public.

Seriuously, these morons are getting slaughtered in the forum of public opinion, but they are too dumb to get it..... they apply that powerfully successful skewed polls logic.

Keep biblically violating that chicken, wingnuts, and enjoy 2014.
 
2013-01-23 10:49:38 AM  

NowhereMon: Wayne LaPierre should shut the hell up.


No way!  He's a great spokesman!!

...for gun control
 
2013-01-23 10:50:24 AM  
There was more projection in that speech than I've ever seen from a single Republican.  I think he reached critical derp mass.
 
2013-01-23 10:54:30 AM  
Lapierre should just bring a gun to every speech and wave it around, warning Obama not to try nothin' stupid.
 
2013-01-23 10:56:22 AM  

Diogenes: vartian: LaPierre proceeded to attack the gun control platform Obama announced last week, saying that universal background checks for gun purchases would impede heirlooms being handed down within families

Well, that minor inconvenience is certainly more troublesome than two dozen children being massacred in their classroom.

And what the hell does that really have to do with the 2nd Amendment?


Look, if you can't pass the NICS background check, you don't get to have guns. It doesn't matter if their heirlooms or not, odds are you're crazy or a felon.
 
2013-01-23 10:57:14 AM  

NowhereMon: Wayne LaPierre should shut the hell up.


I disagree - I want the world to see this lunatic for what he is and what he represents.  this is the spokesman for the NRA, this is as official as it gets - and the official word is 'extremism is cool, lets shoot stuff'.
 
2013-01-23 11:01:16 AM  

Weaver95: NowhereMon: Wayne LaPierre should shut the hell up.

I disagree - I want the world to see this lunatic for what he is and what he represents.  this is the spokesman for the NRA, this is as official as it gets - and the official word is 'extremism is cool, lets shoot stuff'.


How many times has Bachmann been reelected? They wear their lunacy as a badge of honor.
 
2013-01-23 11:06:51 AM  
LaPierre decides to go all-in against universal background checks.

The survey indicates Americans [...] strongly favor background checks at all levels - 92% want them at gun stores, 87% want them at gun shows, and 75% favor background checks even for person-to-person transactions between individuals.  Link

Universal background checks on gun buyers are favored by 92%of Americans, according to a CBS/NYTimes poll. Link

Good luck.
 
2013-01-23 11:08:01 AM  

vudutek: Weaver95: NowhereMon: Wayne LaPierre should shut the hell up.

I disagree - I want the world to see this lunatic for what he is and what he represents.  this is the spokesman for the NRA, this is as official as it gets - and the official word is 'extremism is cool, lets shoot stuff'.

How many times has Bachmann been reelected? They wear their lunacy as a badge of honor.


yes, but did you notice what happened around the rest of the country?  the GOP did not do so well.  there will always be pockets of stupidity and fanatical death cultists.  ain't nothing we can do about that.  But if a race somewhere else around the country is close, and we can show voters that the GOP as a whole is ok with the whole pro-rape, pro-death cult thing...then that might be enough to convince people not to vote Republican anymore.
 
2013-01-23 11:15:51 AM  

Diogenes: vartian: LaPierre proceeded to attack the gun control platform Obama announced last week, saying that universal background checks for gun purchases would impede heirlooms being handed down within families

Well, that minor inconvenience is certainly more troublesome than two dozen children being massacred in their classroom.

And what the hell does that really have to do with the 2nd Amendment?



Right after Sandy Hook the talking point was that the problem wasn't guns, but was a lack of mental health screenings that allowed mentally disturbed people to access guns.

Now that Obama proposed measures to prevent mentally ill people from getting guns, that is now a dictatorial usurpation of the second amendment.  Those goal posts are on farking roller skates.

The NRA doesn't really want any solutions that don't involve selling more guns.
 
2013-01-23 11:17:59 AM  
"Obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word," LaPierre said. "Just another word for extremism. He wants you, all of you, and Americans throughout all of this country, to accept the idea of principles as he sees fit. It's a way of redefining words so that common sense is turned upside down and that nobody knows the difference."

what does that even mean?
 
2013-01-23 11:19:24 AM  

SlothB77: "Obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word," LaPierre said. "Just another word for extremism. He wants you, all of you, and Americans throughout all of this country, to accept the idea of principles as he sees fit. It's a way of redefining words so that common sense is turned upside down and that nobody knows the difference."

what does that even mean?


it means that the NRA is pissed off that Obama said something they didn't like, and that they can't stop him from talking in public.
 
2013-01-23 11:22:25 AM  
Tell us more, Wayne.
 
2013-01-23 11:23:33 AM  

gilgigamesh: Diogenes: vartian: LaPierre proceeded to attack the gun control platform Obama announced last week, saying that universal background checks for gun purchases would impede heirlooms being handed down within families

Well, that minor inconvenience is certainly more troublesome than two dozen children being massacred in their classroom.

And what the hell does that really have to do with the 2nd Amendment?


Right after Sandy Hook the talking point was that the problem wasn't guns, but was a lack of mental health screenings that allowed mentally disturbed people to access guns.

Now that Obama proposed measures to prevent mentally ill people from getting guns, that is now a dictatorial usurpation of the second amendment.  Those goal posts are on farking roller skates.


Ah.  Stealing the GOP's playbook.  Got it.
 
2013-01-23 11:24:07 AM  
Keep talking, Mr. Crazy Guy.
 
2013-01-23 11:26:54 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: LaPierre decides to go all-in against universal background checks.

The survey indicates Americans [...] strongly favor background checks at all levels - 92% want them at gun stores, 87% want them at gun shows, and 75% favor background checks even for person-to-person transactions between individuals.  Link

Universal background checks on gun buyers are favored by 92%of Americans, according to a CBS/NYTimes poll. Link

Good luck.


By law if you are an FFL you must perform a background check no matter if you sell a firearm in a store, at a gun show or in the bathroom of a rest stop.

There is a pattern that suggests people do not know what laws actually exist.
 
2013-01-23 11:27:07 AM  

SlothB77: "Obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word," LaPierre said. "Just another word for extremism. He wants you, all of you, and Americans throughout all of this country, to accept the idea of principles as he sees fit. It's a way of redefining words so that common sense is turned upside down and that nobody knows the difference."

what does that even mean?


Derp translation: "booga booga"
 
2013-01-23 11:28:04 AM  
There is no greater enemy to the future of gun rights in America than the current leadership of the NRA
 
2013-01-23 11:28:11 AM  
If you're going to be an absolutist about the Second Amendment, isn't the idea of gun dealers charging money for guns infringing on my right to bear arms?
 
2013-01-23 11:28:26 AM  
Please proceed, Mr. LaPierre.
 
2013-01-23 11:29:36 AM  

gilgigamesh: Diogenes: vartian: LaPierre proceeded to attack the gun control platform Obama announced last week, saying that universal background checks for gun purchases would impede heirlooms being handed down within families

Well, that minor inconvenience is certainly more troublesome than two dozen children being massacred in their classroom.

And what the hell does that really have to do with the 2nd Amendment?


Right after Sandy Hook the talking point was that the problem wasn't guns, but was a lack of mental health screenings that allowed mentally disturbed people to access guns.

Now that Obama proposed measures to prevent mentally ill people from getting guns, that is now a dictatorial usurpation of the second amendment.  Those goal posts are on farking roller skates.

The NRA doesn't really want any solutions that don't involve selling more guns.


Should Adam Lanza transferred the firearms to himself legally before his mother's untimely death? I suppose if we required a transfer we'd have caught how he murdered his mother. So yea, I guess that would have stopped the Sandy Hook massacre... I guess.
 
2013-01-23 11:31:52 AM  
I'll give the neocons one thing: they've realized they can make these sorts of statements about Obama ad nauseum with no accountability whatsoever and they never miss a chance to do so. Nobody will ever go back to see if they were accurate, or be able to prove that they were because they're not saying anything specifics. It does sound scary though, which is all that matters.
 
2013-01-23 11:33:06 AM  

GiantRex: Last I checked, Wayne LaPierre is not an elected official in the United States government, and therefore can go fark himself.


Hey now. He's fully entitled to his opinion, and to tell his elected officials what to do, like everyone.

I mean, we can think he's stupid and his elected official will probably just roll his/her eyes and get on with his job, but he's allowed to talk about his stupid, stupid opinions as much as he wants.

//Absolutist (or local language equivalent) has been a dirty word since ancient farking Greece, Aristotle spent basically the entire Nicomachean ethics trashing it. So his opinion _is_ stupid, that's a fact rather than an opinion.
 
2013-01-23 11:33:24 AM  

Mrbogey: Should Adam Lanza transferred the firearms to himself legally before his mother's untimely death? I suppose if we required a transfer we'd have caught how he murdered his mother. So yea, I guess that would have stopped the Sandy Hook massacre... I guess.


Just because it may not have prevented your anecdotal example doesn't mean it can't help prevent future incidents. Just stop it.
 
2013-01-23 11:33:38 AM  
I am glad to see so many gun enthusiasts in here decrying the nonsensical BS from Wayne LaPierre, in effect saying "We don't believe this guy! We're rational people and he's not!"

Oh, wait...
 
2013-01-23 11:33:39 AM  

Mrbogey: gilgigamesh: Diogenes: vartian: LaPierre proceeded to attack the gun control platform Obama announced last week, saying that universal background checks for gun purchases would impede heirlooms being handed down within families

Well, that minor inconvenience is certainly more troublesome than two dozen children being massacred in their classroom.

And what the hell does that really have to do with the 2nd Amendment?


Right after Sandy Hook the talking point was that the problem wasn't guns, but was a lack of mental health screenings that allowed mentally disturbed people to access guns.

Now that Obama proposed measures to prevent mentally ill people from getting guns, that is now a dictatorial usurpation of the second amendment.  Those goal posts are on farking roller skates.

The NRA doesn't really want any solutions that don't involve selling more guns.

Should Adam Lanza transferred the firearms to himself legally before his mother's untimely death? I suppose if we required a transfer we'd have caught how he murdered his mother. So yea, I guess that would have stopped the Sandy Hook massacre... I guess.


Should people who couldn't pass background checks be allowed to inherit firearms?
 
2013-01-23 11:33:41 AM  
sullysrental.com
 
2013-01-23 11:34:00 AM  
Wayne, you're getting baited into revealing yourself as an idealogue and an extremist. This is exactly the plan. You don't see it because when like-minded people form organizations, the tendency is to become more extreme as a way to gain respect and power. Saying these things to your members is what has kept you in your position for so long. You have lost touch and therefore overestimate your appeal to people outside of your group.

You're getting baited into damaging your position with your own rhetoric. You may be "right", but you're hurting your image, and while people wish image didn't matter and that what is right should always prevail - history, public relations, and marketing have proven this to be wishful thinking.
 
2013-01-23 11:34:31 AM  
"Obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word," LaPierre said. "Just another word for extremism."

It IS, you stupid fark.
 
2013-01-23 11:36:01 AM  

Arkanaut: If you're going to be an absolutist about the Second Amendment, isn't the idea of gun dealers charging money for guns infringing on my right to bear arms?


Good call. Since this is my right, I should get a gun for free - heck, as many as I want. To force me to pay any money at all to exercise this god-given right would infringe upon it! We don't charge people to exercise their 1st-amendment right, why the 2nd? Help! I'm oppressed!
 
2013-01-23 11:36:55 AM  

Frozboz: Arkanaut: If you're going to be an absolutist about the Second Amendment, isn't the idea of gun dealers charging money for guns infringing on my right to bear arms?

Good call. Since this is my right, I should get a gun for free - heck, as many as I want. To force me to pay any money at all to exercise this god-given right would infringe upon it! We don't charge people to exercise their 1st-amendment right, why the 2nd? Help! I'm oppressed!


WHERE'S MY OBAMAGUN?!?!?!?!?!
 
2013-01-23 11:38:38 AM  

urbangirl: Please proceed, Mr. LaPierre.


Damn. I missed it by that much.
 
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