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(The Raw Story)   Ted Nugent may know a lot of things - how to play the hell out of a guitar, how to hunt with any type of weapon, how to swing from a vine wearing a loincloth - but he apparently does not understand the meaning of the word "treason"   (rawstory.com) divider line 127
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2013-01-23 09:14:54 AM
23 votes:
Speaking to fans during an NBC-sponsored gun show, Nugent said that Obama "is attempting to re-implement the tyranny of King George that we escaped from in 1776," adding: "If you want another Concord bridge, I've got some buddies."

Acts committed by King George which led to the American revolution:

- Navigation Acts (blocked American trade with the French, Spanish, and Dutch)
- Molasses Act (tax for the purpose of making the British export cheaper than that from the French West Indies, "encouraging" colonists to buy British)
- Royal Proclamation of 1763 (restricted settlement west of the Appalachian Mountains)
- Sugar Act (enacted because of colonial evasion of the Molasses Act, also known as the American Revenues Act)
- Currency Act (regulated and restricted the paper money issued in the colonies for the purpose of preventing British creditors and merchants from being paid in depreciated colonial currency, resulted in a shortage of coin in the colonies and complicated the payment of debts)
- Quartering Acts (primary reason for the existence of the Third Amendment)
- Stamp Act of 1765 (required printed materials to be printed on special paper with an embossed revenue stamp, stamps had to be purchased with hard currency [see Currency Act], tax levied for the purpose of paying for the Seven Years' War)
- Declaratory Act (asserted that parliament's authority was the same in the colonies as it was in Britain and therefore could pass laws binding on the American colonies... despite the colonies having no representation in parliament)
- Townshend Acts (series of five laws enacted for the purpose of forcing the colonies to subsidize British occupation and law enforcement in the colonies)
- Tea Act (tax/racket enacted for the purpose of forcing colonists to buy off the surplus of tea from the British East India Company, resulted in the infamous Boston Tea Party)
- Quebec Act (extended Quebec's boundaries to the Ohio River, shutting out territorial claims of the 13 colonies)
- Intolerable Acts (a.k.a. the Coercive Acts, issued in response to the Boston Tea Party, essentially placed the colonies under British military rule. Specifically, Boston Harbor was closed until the debt was paid for the destruction of tea in the Boston Tea Party, the Massachusetts government was placed under the direct appointment and supervision of the British government, trials of accused royal officials were relocated to other colonies or back to Great Britain, and the forced quartering of British troops was expanded.)

The primary theme in all of these acts is governance by a foreign entity and taxation without any representation in parliament.

Similar Acts committed by the Obama Administration:


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2013-01-23 09:02:53 AM
14 votes:
Maybe he's just working his way up to his eventual suicide because Obama won.

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Time to nut up or shut up, Teddy Boy. Can't shiat your pants on this one.
2013-01-23 09:09:30 AM
10 votes:
How to hunt?  Well, if you call sitting off a guaranteed kill and shooting what amounts to raised cattle "hunting" then...yah.  He's awesome.
2013-01-23 09:21:19 AM
7 votes:
He's really not that great a guitar player.
2013-01-23 09:21:01 AM
7 votes:
Ted Nugent may know a lot of things - how to play the hell out of a guitar, how to hunt with any type of weapon, how to swing from a vine wearing a loincloth - but he apparently does not understand the meaning of the word "treason"

Not even close, subby.
2013-01-23 09:39:54 AM
6 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: That's a big thing the revolutards can't understand - the vast majority of Americans don't agree with their definition of tyranny or oppression.

There will be no popular uprising, you're going to have to kill your friends and neighbors. This will not work out.


Actually that's exactly what they want. They want to kill people they don't agree with. They just think that there's a vast majority of people who will agree with them. They want to use violence and threats of violence to force their political viewpoints and they think they hold the popular majority opinions.

These people are sick, and they need to be treated by mental health professionals. Ted Nugent is the poster child for those enhanced mental health and background check rules Obama signed as an executive order. This man should not have weapons - he has made it clear he wants to use them to kill Americans who have done nothing more than disagree with him.
2013-01-23 09:29:03 AM
6 votes:
The man is a coward, a hypocrite, and just an all-around douche bag.

I have no interest in anything he has to say about anything... His music sucks ass, as well.
2013-01-23 09:28:54 AM
6 votes:
Hey Ted, SHUT UP AND SING!
2013-01-23 09:24:31 AM
6 votes:
That's a big thing the revolutards can't understand - the vast majority of Americans don't agree with their definition of tyranny or oppression.

There will be no popular uprising, you're going to have to kill your friends and neighbors. This will not work out.
2013-01-23 09:21:26 AM
6 votes:
Jebus Christmas. He's gone completely unhinged.

It would be hilarious if the government actually did move to take away Ted's guns. -- Not everyone's guns, just Ted's.
2013-01-23 09:34:51 AM
5 votes:
From the article comments: "Advocating for violence is not protected 1st Amendment speech. Declaring yourself ready and willing to foment revolution against a duly elected government is sedition."

I suspect the whole purpose of the first amendment is to protect exactly such declarations.

That aside, people like Nugent don't want democracy, they don't want freedom. They want an extremely authoritarian government that applies its authority to everyone but them and exists mostly to hassle people they don't like. Give an idiot like this enough money to buy a ranch in Texas and he thinks he's a sovreign nation.

And, "hunting" is not shooting domesticated animals on a ranch. Nor does "patriotism" take the form of covering yourself in feces to avoid military service.
2013-01-23 09:29:45 AM
5 votes:
I dunno guys, his insanity is kinda working...

... I wanna buy a gun to protect myself from people like him.
2013-01-23 09:54:18 AM
4 votes:

Thune: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?

And this is where the ignorance is because you just demonstrated that YOU don't know what "Well-Regulated" means.

Back when the Constitution was written the phrase "well-regulated" meant "in good order" or "well running".

They use to refer to clocks as "Well-regulated".

They didn't mean there were laws written by the federal government about how a clock should run.

The phrase "well-regulated" in the Constitution had NOTHING to do with written regulations by the federal or state government, as the person of today would take that phrase to mean.


And you walked into the trap.

So, if according to you, we can't use "well-regulated" because it's outdated compared to the common venacular of today, then you can't mean "militia" to mean whatever you think it means today because back then it meant something else.

Double-edged swords - how do they work?
2013-01-23 09:46:56 AM
4 votes:
Nothing says patriotism like inciting an armed insurrection to oust a democratically-elected official.
2013-01-23 09:43:30 AM
4 votes:

Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?


Your hero George W Bush didn't know what the 4th Amendment was, but that didn't seem to bother you guys.
2013-01-23 09:33:48 AM
4 votes:
Subby forgot "how to avoid the draft."

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2013-01-23 09:29:24 AM
4 votes:

born_yesterday: This latest outrage has given me the sudden urge to purchase one of his albums.

/Or shiat myself in homage, I haven't figured out which, yet


Go with shiatting yourself. You won't regret that later.
2013-01-23 09:27:16 AM
4 votes:
The law enforcement agent who will eventually get to shoot Ted Nugent dead is the luckiest man in the world.
2013-01-23 09:25:34 AM
4 votes:
"we need to fix this as soon as possible."

We live in a democracy. You had your chance in November 2012, and your next one is around the same time in 2016.
2013-01-23 09:23:31 AM
4 votes:

GiantRex: Speaking to fans during an NBC-sponsored gun show, Nugent said that Obama "is attempting to re-implement the tyranny of King George that we escaped from in 1776," adding: "If you want another Concord bridge, I've got some buddies."

Acts committed by King George which led to the American revolution:

- Navigation Acts (blocked American trade with the French, Spanish, and Dutch)
- Molasses Act (tax for the purpose of making the British export cheaper than that from the French West Indies, "encouraging" colonists to buy British)
- Royal Proclamation of 1763 (restricted settlement west of the Appalachian Mountains)
- Sugar Act (enacted because of colonial evasion of the Molasses Act, also known as the American Revenues Act)
- Currency Act (regulated and restricted the paper money issued in the colonies for the purpose of preventing British creditors and merchants from being paid in depreciated colonial currency, resulted in a shortage of coin in the colonies and complicated the payment of debts)
- Quartering Acts (primary reason for the existence of the Third Amendment)
- Stamp Act of 1765 (required printed materials to be printed on special paper with an embossed revenue stamp, stamps had to be purchased with hard currency [see Currency Act], tax levied for the purpose of paying for the Seven Years' War)
- Declaratory Act (asserted that parliament's authority was the same in the colonies as it was in Britain and therefore could pass laws binding on the American colonies... despite the colonies having no representation in parliament)
- Townshend Acts (series of five laws enacted for the purpose of forcing the colonies to subsidize British occupation and law enforcement in the colonies)
- Tea Act (tax/racket enacted for the purpose of forcing colonists to buy off the surplus of tea from the British East India Company, resulted in the infamous Boston Tea Party)
- Quebec Act (extended Quebec's boundaries to the Ohio River, shutting out territorial claims of the 13 colonie ...


Yeah, I'm not sure what's more dangerous.  His rhetoric or his understanding of American History.
2013-01-23 09:23:18 AM
4 votes:
My birthday is April 17 (ya rly) and I cannot think of a better present than this scumbag dead or in jail.
2013-01-23 09:21:36 AM
4 votes:
Headline is wrong. He could never play guitar. He can be flashy, but any kid in a Guitar Center for the first time can out play this ass.
2013-01-23 09:20:16 AM
4 votes:
He promised to be dead or in jail by April if Obama won. Hopefully he's a kook of his word.
2013-01-23 09:09:48 AM
4 votes:
I bet they are, you pants-shiatting coward.
2013-01-23 10:10:58 AM
3 votes:
The biggest threat to the Second Amendment isn't liberals, it's idiots like this speaking on behalf of the Second Amendment.
2013-01-23 10:08:49 AM
3 votes:

give me doughnuts: And once upon a time (adjusts onion), the NRA was all about marksmanship and gun safety courses. Hell, I went to a summer camp that had an NRA-sponsored marksmanship/safety class, and I knew a bunch of guys that did it with the BSA.


Hell, the first safety course I took was an NRA course. It was excellent.

Having said that, I want nothing to do with the modern NRA. They're not defending my interests or freedoms, they're defending the interests of gun manufacturers with deep pockets.
2013-01-23 09:56:54 AM
3 votes:

david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.

And this one....

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And this one too...

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Most people are aware of that. Here's the thing though: If they lost the war, they'd have been put to death.

Those who did not support their war likely would have supported that result. If Ted Nugent and his buddies take up arms against the US, that's what will happen to them and many in this thread would support it.

Thinking the American Revolution was necessary and proper in no way obligates me to believe that Ted Nugent's revolution is necessary and proper. Why you think it does is a mystery to me.
2013-01-23 09:46:32 AM
3 votes:
Pants shiatting draft dodger with a penchant for underage girls who is too much of a coward to hunt outside of a fenced in area.
2013-01-23 09:44:44 AM
3 votes:
I wish the best to Nugent and hope he speaks loud and long. I want him to be heard by everyone and repeatedly. People like him only solidify the idea of the conservative crackpot with a real world example in face, name and word. And at the current rate of rising stupidity among people like him, it is only a matter of time before he says something else so over the top that it points out just how delusional and irresponsible people like him are.

We need more people like Nugent and James Yeager to seal the deal in enacting responsible gun legislation. We need them to be as crazy as possible to point up the folly of the unlimited gun argument. It is the only way to change the mindset of Crazy American Gun Culture from that of a posse lynch mob to the responsible firearms owners they claim they are (but clearly are not at this time).

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And if nothing comes of it in the favor or realistic attitudes towards gun ownership, then we pretty much are where we are now. However, sooner or later these people who are advocating this lunacy will have it at their front doorstep. They should be careful for what they wish for.
Sad. Sad. Sad.
2013-01-23 09:23:24 AM
3 votes:

Coco LaFemme: pants-shiatting coward.


This is all that needs to be said.
2013-01-23 09:07:59 AM
3 votes:
He must have really enjoyed his last visit from the secret service to ask for another one so soon.
2013-01-23 12:09:57 PM
2 votes:
I've heard Ted Nugent called a lot of things in my time, but "rockabilly" is not one of them.
2013-01-23 10:59:16 AM
2 votes:

karnal: Welcome to the liberal mindset. Doesn't matter if you're a musician, author, sports figure or movie star or whatever....once you are tagged a 'conservative' anything you have ever done before sucks and you are an asshat.

/closed-minded reactionaries and bigots


The Dixie Chicks.

France.

/That is all.
2013-01-23 10:55:22 AM
2 votes:

karnal: Welcome to the liberal mindset. Doesn't matter if you're a musician, author, sports figure or movie star or whatever....once you are tagged a 'conservative' anything you have ever done before sucks and you are an asshat.

/closed-minded reactionaries and bigots


Say, let's talk about The Dixie Chicks, eh motherfarker?
2013-01-23 10:14:01 AM
2 votes:
The Nuge doesn't go huntin'. The Nuge goes killin'. If the animal in in a pen, it ain't huntin'. But then I wouldn't expect much from a draft-dodger.
2013-01-23 10:01:32 AM
2 votes:

give me doughnuts: Actually I was quoting from the 1st and 4th Amendments, but you just keep right on jumping to the wrong conclusions.
Universal background checks on firearm transfers, and manadatory training for concealed-carry permits are a great ideas.


Well, shiat. Sorry about that. Hard to tell intent from 12 point Arial sometimes.

Though, I think anyone who want to own any kind of firearm, whether it's concealed-carry or not should have to pass a training course. Seems like common sense to this gun owner.
2013-01-23 10:00:46 AM
2 votes:
Ted won't be part of any revolt. That would require a spine.


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2013-01-23 09:40:49 AM
2 votes:

Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?


I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?
2013-01-23 09:36:43 AM
2 votes:
Big mouth coward with a gun.
2013-01-23 09:32:58 AM
2 votes:
I like that Ted is upset. It makes me smile.
2013-01-23 09:31:36 AM
2 votes:

Diogenes: He's basically making the schoolyard threat that his big brother can beat up your Big Brother.


His big brother doesn't have Abrams farking tanks, though.
2013-01-23 09:29:47 AM
2 votes:
He's basically making the schoolyard threat that his big brother can beat up your Big Brother.
2013-01-23 09:29:46 AM
2 votes:
I'm about as pro second amendment as you can get, but why does anyone listen to this a-hole?

/Mostly Democrat too. That seems to confuse people.
2013-01-23 09:29:35 AM
2 votes:
Some Conservatives seem to forget that even when your Government does stuff you disagree with, it doesn't mean that they aren't democratically representing you.
2013-01-23 09:28:16 AM
2 votes:
Another Conservative hero.
2013-01-23 09:27:05 AM
2 votes:
He added that Obama "hires, appoints and associates with communists," and that he's "an evil, dangerous man who hates America and hates freedom. And we need to fix this as soon as possible."

What a farking moron.
2013-01-23 09:26:25 AM
2 votes:
It's one of the few crimes in the actual Constitution. The "piece of paper" these guys are always so up in arms about.
2013-01-23 09:26:03 AM
2 votes:

olddeegee: Headline is wrong. He could never play guitar. He can be flashy, but any kid in a Guitar Center for the first time can out play this ass.


He's a better guitar player than "hunter". I've only been hunting for a few years and I bet I know more than he does and am a shiatton better than him. I actually hunt animals in the wild.

/ok, I sit in a stand and read/doze off/text friends, but still, I'm better than him
2013-01-23 09:25:48 AM
2 votes:
I don't care if Obama can play guitar, I don't care what Ted says about politics.

/play in your own yard
2013-01-23 09:25:27 AM
2 votes:
2013-01-23 09:22:31 AM
2 votes:
Ted also looks like he doesn't know the meaning of the words "shower," "shampoo," or "deodorant."
2013-01-23 09:22:22 AM
2 votes:
That guy is the worst thing to ever come out of Michigan.
2013-01-23 11:32:17 PM
1 votes:

7FARK7: He understands it more than President Obama.


Obama never said he's going to take your guns and hasn't made a move to, either. Seems like you and Ted both need to quell your conspiracy theory idiocy.
2013-01-23 10:45:37 PM
1 votes:

dc0012c: Farkage: I'm about as pro second amendment as you can get, but why does anyone listen to this a-hole?

/Mostly Democrat too. That seems to confuse people.

You want confusion? Wear one of these to the range next time:


On my Facebook profile, I have my political views listed as "gun toting hippie". I want to work up a design and get it printed on a shirt, specifically to wear to the range and gun shows. Because, even as a gun owner, a lot of those people creep me the fark out so I might as well have fun with them.
2013-01-23 09:52:48 PM
1 votes:

armoredbulldozer: So we'll buy him a dictionary. He's still a better American than ObaMao is.


You still have all your rights and he hasn't done anything to take them away. Are you from Bizarro World, where treating gays as equal Americans, making life easier for small businesses, health care for everyone, women have control of their bodies, and church and state remain separate is considered socia-commun-tyranny?
2013-01-23 09:50:12 PM
1 votes:

HAMMERTOE: Keizer_Ghidorah: And now we have someone who thinks liberals were the only ones who genocided Native Americans. This thread is a smorgasbord of silly.

Of course not. But their "hero and protector", (the government,) was directly responsible, both through action and policy


So liberals see the government as "hero and protector", while conservatives see government as "villain and destroyer". Except when it comes to women's rights and gay rights, then conservatives want government everywhere, especially inside uteruses and bedrooms.
2013-01-23 07:54:39 PM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: I'm going to guess he doesn't get a lot of Negros at his concerts.



I'm going to guess he doesn't get a lot of people younger than 50 at his concerts.
2013-01-23 07:51:29 PM
1 votes:
The irony of Ted is that "Hippies" that thought he was a good musician and made him famous, for a time, and rich forever are the people he hates the most. The people that provided him that money and the platform to complain are the ones he hates..... Way to go Ted. You are smarterer than the potato!
2013-01-23 06:41:30 PM
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: Subby forgot "how to avoid the draft."


This is perhaps the one thing Ted has said/done that actually gets me angry... Look, I think Vietnam was a mistake, I think the draft was horrible, but I know people who served honorably when called to do so and were permanently disabled for their effort. So, fark you Ted Nugent, you pants-shiatting, anti-American coward POS.
2013-01-23 06:35:05 PM
1 votes:
Of course he has 'buddies' - he's a goddamned draft-dodging instigating coward. He's the little biatch in the middle of the crowd, screaming at his 'buddies' not to take that shiat from those assholes, and to go over there and beat the hell out of whoever the little biatch is afraid. He's the classic rabble-rouser, the asshole that encourages the fight, and takes off & laughs up his sleeve while everyone else gets down to it.

Screw him.
2013-01-23 06:08:03 PM
1 votes:
What? No dumbass tag?
2013-01-23 05:57:10 PM
1 votes:

hdhale: BronyMedic: Maybe he's just working his way up to his eventual suicide because Obama won.

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Time to nut up or shut up, Teddy Boy. Can't shiat your pants on this one.

If every Liberal Democrat who proclaimed in 2000 and again in 2004 that they were leaving the US if George W. Bush were elected had actually done so, there would have been no Barrack Obama presidency. If everyone on the Left who said/did something that could be considered disloyal to the US where executed, then we would have had to suffer Jane Fonda workout tapes.

Insurrections are done in support of a nation as well as in opposition to it. They start with people like Uncle Theodore here and the movement grows over time...or not.

I do not support insurrection at this point, I do however very much understand why people would feel that way.


Yeah, I always feel like declaring bloody revolution against leaders who help small businesses and the middle-class and poor, allow women to have control of their bodies, allow gays to be equal American citizens, try to get our troops out of pointless wars, actually take down our enemies, and strengthen our foreign ties.
2013-01-23 04:37:56 PM
1 votes:

doczoidberg: Jebus Christmas. He's gone completely unhinged.

It would be hilarious if the government actually did move to take away Ted's guns. -- Not everyone's guns, just Ted's.


I think it's a given that if mental health checks become mandatory, Ted couldn't possibly pass.
2013-01-23 03:27:41 PM
1 votes:

HAMMERTOE: Corvus: Your not patriots your farking traitors who just because things don't go your way in a democracy you think you should force you beliefs on others through force.

Just exactly WHO is trying to change things because "things aren't going their way" in this democracy? Through "force" (the power of government)?


I think HAMMERTOE was using 'force' as in "arming oneself with a bunch of weapons and trying to overthrow a democratically elected government in order to get what one wants".  How you could equate this to "a lawfully elected government passing some law" is beyond me.

We elect our leaders.  That doesn't mean you are always going to get your way.  You CANT...there are hundreds of millions of people in the U.S.A...none of us can get our way all of the time.  Just because you don't like what the government is doing doesn't mean it makes sense to overthrow it.  If you don't like the way things are going, get involved (politically) and try to convince others of what you think is right.  In the end though...be prepared to accept majority rule.

We already have a farking representative government.  If things were really so bad...we the people have the power to completely turn over 2 branches of government in 6 years NO GUNS REQUIRED.  It is amazing how much power the people of the United States have at the ballot box.
2013-01-23 02:28:11 PM
1 votes:
It would be hilarious if the government actually did move to take away Ted's guns. -- Not everyone's guns, just Ted's.

Well. he certainly sounds like he's mentally ill. THe NRA says mentally ill people shouldn't have guns, so this sounds like an area where Obama and the NRA can agree on something and take away Teddy Boy's guns
2013-01-23 01:52:34 PM
1 votes:

HAMMERTOE: david_gaithersburg: Diogenes: david_gaithersburg: I have a silly hang up on an odd concept called freedom, and freedom from tyranny. Sorry, but I do not share your desire to be a mere subject to huge and out of control government.

So we should have taken up arms against Bush and his government when they came up with the Patriot Act. Got it.

.
Yes.

Afraid I have to agree as well.


Nice to see the farktards in this thread are actively self-identifying themselves for us...
2013-01-23 12:21:46 PM
1 votes:

People_are_Idiots: markb289: czei: "He added that Obama "hires, appoints and associates with communists,"

Nugent also doesn't know the definition of "communist".

Just one of the many words Ted doesn't know the meaning of. Like "Patriot" and "American".

The whole premise of him being a "communist" comes from a little list of his influences (which is mentioned in his book). It's riddled with communist, socialist, Anti-Israel, and racism. Take it and do with as you will. :)

Marilyn Katz: SDS, Socialist, CPUSA, CoC, Public Relations to Obama
Carl Davidson: SDS, Marxist Socialist, Professor, Small school workshop, leading activist in the Chicago break away Socialist/Communist, "New Party" founder of Progressives for Obama, DSA, Communist party split organization Committees of Correspondence CoC.
Mike Klonsky: SDS Weatherman, Maoist Communist, Small schools workshop, CoC
William Ayers: SDS Weatherman, Communist, UC Professor who writes curriculum for teaching teachers, Small schools workshop, CoC, Hugo Chavez honored him for his Socialist educational standards introduced to Venezuela.
Bernadine Dohrn: SDS Weatherman, Communist, Professor, Lawyer, CPUSA organization CoC
Mark Rudd: SDS Weatherman, Socialist, Professor, Progressives for Obama
Tom Hayden: SDS Weatherman, Communist, Professor, Advisory Board of Progressive Democrats of America, Initiated Progressives for Obama, CoC
Rev. Wright: Black Liberation Theology (Socialist) Racist Church, Obama's Pastor
Rev. James Meeks: Black Liberation, Racist, Spiritual counsel, adviser, and friend
Tony Rezko: Chicago mobster, business associate, friend
Frank Marshall Davis: CPUSA Communist from Chicago, four year mentor to teenage Obama in Hawaii, on FBI security arrest list from 1957 forward.
Raila Odinga: ODM, Kenya Communist, Obama campaigned for his election in Kenya
Richard Falk: IADL Communist, America hater, Professor and friend until his death
Edward Said: Jew hater, America hater, Obama Professor and friend until his death
Roberto Unger: ...


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2013-01-23 12:14:40 PM
1 votes:

thenewmissus: oldfarthenry: Methinks this Wacko will be Janet Reno-ed soonishly.

I hope not. The last thing this country needs is for Ted Nugent to become a sacrifice or martyr. The apocalypse would start (in the mind of the crazies).


Word. I want Nugent to channel the spirit of R. Budd Dwyer.
2013-01-23 12:13:12 PM
1 votes:

markb289: czei: "He added that Obama "hires, appoints and associates with communists,"

Nugent also doesn't know the definition of "communist".

Just one of the many words Ted doesn't know the meaning of. Like "Patriot" and "American".


The whole premise of him being a "communist" comes from a little list of his influences (which is mentioned in his book). It's riddled with communist, socialist, Anti-Israel, and racism. Take it and do with as you will. :)

Marilyn Katz: SDS, Socialist, CPUSA, CoC, Public Relations to Obama
Carl Davidson: SDS, Marxist Socialist, Professor, Small school workshop, leading activist in the Chicago break away Socialist/Communist, "New Party" founder of Progressives for Obama, DSA, Communist party split organization Committees of Correspondence CoC.
Mike Klonsky: SDS Weatherman, Maoist Communist, Small schools workshop, CoC
William Ayers: SDS Weatherman, Communist, UC Professor who writes curriculum for teaching teachers, Small schools workshop, CoC, Hugo Chavez honored him for his Socialist educational standards introduced to Venezuela.
Bernadine Dohrn: SDS Weatherman, Communist, Professor, Lawyer, CPUSA organization CoC
Mark Rudd: SDS Weatherman, Socialist, Professor, Progressives for Obama
Tom Hayden: SDS Weatherman, Communist, Professor, Advisory Board of Progressive Democrats of America, Initiated Progressives for Obama, CoC
Rev. Wright: Black Liberation Theology (Socialist) Racist Church, Obama's Pastor
Rev. James Meeks: Black Liberation, Racist, Spiritual counsel, adviser, and friend
Tony Rezko: Chicago mobster, business associate, friend
Frank Marshall Davis: CPUSA Communist from Chicago, four year mentor to teenage Obama in Hawaii, on FBI security arrest list from 1957 forward.
Raila Odinga: ODM, Kenya Communist, Obama campaigned for his election in Kenya
Richard Falk: IADL Communist, America hater, Professor and friend until his death
Edward Said: Jew hater, America hater, Obama Professor and friend until his death
Roberto Unger: Communist, Obama Professor, friend
Rashid Khalidi: Jew hater, PLO, University of Chicago Professor friend, Obama fundraiser
John Holdren: (CZAR), Co author, Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment, advocates totalitarian world order and mass sterilization of population. I kid you not.
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
Gregory Craig: ACLU, Specializes in representing Communists. His clients include Castro and the Nicaraguan Communist Sandinistas. Obama`s White House Council.
Carl Sustein: Progressive (Socialist) Professor, friend. Wants legal 'rights' for livestock, wildlife and pets represented by PETA and ACLU.
Jessica Marshall: Chicago activist, national coordinator Young Communists YCLUSA, friend
Terrie Albano: YCLUSA and editor of the Communist Party USA newspaper Peoples Weekly World was an early and ardent backer of Obama, CoC.
Valerie Bowman Jarrett: Married for 5 yrs to Vernon Jarrett CPUSA member now deceased. Jarrett is the great niece of prominent Democratic Party leftist Vernon Jordan. Personal friend of SDS Socialist Marilyn Katz, Senior advisor to President Barack Obama
Timuel Black: Socialist Party SPUSA, Democratic Socialists of America DSA, Committees of Correspondence CoC, personal adviser and friend.
Alice Palmer: 1991 Illinois State Senator, Soviet world traveler, Socialist/Communist admirer, Chicago journalist, friend and employer of Barack Obama. Hand picked Obama as her senate seat successor and organized his coming out fund raiser at her friends William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn's home
Patrick Gaspard: New Jersey chapter of the Socialist/Communist, "New Party" Activist in the New Party offshoot, and CPUSA endorsed Working Families Party. White House political director for President-elect Barak Obama
Barbara Ehrenreich: Democratic Socialists of America DSA, New Party NP, Progressives for Obama, Committees of Correspondence CoC.
Lou Pardo: Socialist, DSA, New Party, CoC, organizer with and friend of Obama 1990's
Quentin Young: YCLUSA Young Communist League, DSA, Obama's doctor for 20 years
Rabbi Arnold Jacob Wolf: Democratic Socialists of America DSA, Vice chairman of Chicago Committee to 'Defend the Bill of Rights' the CPUSA most successful creation, friend of Ayers and Dohrn, friend of Obama
Cornel West: DSA vice-chair, New Party NP, Progressives for Obama, Obama's Black advisory Council, Black Liberation Theology speaker, friend of Rev. Wright, friend of Obama
Danny Davis: Democratic Socialists of America DSA, friend, political ally, Davis and Obama joined New Party NP together and were candidates for NP, CoC
Van Jones: Black Nationalist, Black Liberation Theology, Communist party split organization Committees of Correspondence CoC,, (CZAR) to Obama.
Carol Browner: (Global Warming CZAR) Socialist, member Socialist International
Gerald Kellman: Socialist Activist, Obama's boss.
Michelle Robinson, Obama: At Princeton she was Board member of segregationist group Third World Center organization for 2 yrs.
2013-01-23 12:04:42 PM
1 votes:
I think this mans only true contribution to the world is the guitar solo in Stranglehold, which is long enough that back in the day, a DJ could grab a cup of coffee, take a dump, or have a quickie with some chick in return for backstage passes for whatever concert was coming to town.

Just go away ted.
2013-01-23 11:57:27 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg:
I did my part by voting for Ron Paul and joining the Tea Party.


Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the very definition of FARK Independent.TM
"Waahhh, I hate what Republicans are doing, so I'm going to switch my allegiance to the Republican Party!"
2013-01-23 11:47:55 AM
1 votes:

catchow: Farkage: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?

Yes, it means "in its natural state". Look up the dictionary definitions from an 18th century dictionary and see for yourself how that phrase was used when the 2nd amendment was written.

I hardly ever post in Politics threads, and I'm probably just feeding the trolls, but...

I find it the height of ridiculousness that Teahadists and insurrectionists keep trotting out this lame trope when they fulminate about the "true" meaning of the 2nd Amendment ("LOL look it up in an 18th century dictionary libtardz!!!"). I mean, seriously, have YOU ever consulted an 18th century dictionary? Perhaps you should, and the first definitions you should consider looking up would be "gun," "firearm," "matchlock," and "musket". You might be surprised that the all-knowing Founding Fathers had no way of anticipating the leaps in weapons technology that we see today, more than TWO CENTURIES LATER. I mean, today's date and time was an even more remote a future to Jefferson and Adams as the Star Trek universe is to us. Shocking, I know. Oh, and while you're at it, look up the definition of "militia" while you're at it. Then consider consulting an actual history book or two, maybe even some of the writings of the actual Founding Fathers, to gain perspective on what was actually happening at that time and what people actually thought about it.

I know, a truly radical thought. One might even say, revolutionary.

In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy the richly deserved mockery that so richly, skewers, roasts and devours your derp.

/Dammit, now I'm hungry. Roast derp for lunch, anyone?


So you are okay with restricting freedom of the press to hand set printing presses?
2013-01-23 11:29:01 AM
1 votes:

keylock71:
My grandfather pretty much taught me to shoot (using an old clunky .22 at the rifle range at the Newport Naval Base). Seeing the way some folks these days treat their firearms like fashion accessories or political statements would have drove him nuts.

The fetishism surrounding firearms nowadays just astounds me - and I come from what most people would consider a "gun" family. We all train our kids to shoot at 6 or 7 with .22s, we all hunt, we all own and keep guns. I keep pistols and rifles both in the house for hunting, target practice, and home defense. (The latter being slightly more likely out where we are - no police, no cellphone service, spotty landline service, all add up to pretty much self-policing of the community)

I can even understand wanting an assault rifle "just in case there's some prolonged breakdown of law/order and you have to defend your family". Sure, makes sense, it's just being prepared. I've seen some pretty crazy things happen in just a few days without basic services so I can buy the idea that people might lose it if, say, the electric went out for a month.

Toting them around and thinking they give you a snowball's chance in hell against the government, treating any reasonable regulation as if it's the beginning of the Fourth Reich, and ranting about revolution though - that's way over the crazy line.
2013-01-23 11:18:01 AM
1 votes:

karnal: Welcome to the liberal mindset. Doesn't matter if you're a musician, author, sports figure or movie star or whatever....once you are tagged a 'conservative' anything you have ever done before sucks and you are an asshat.


Which is completely different than how conservatives react to liberal entertainers - boycotts, destroying their recordings, telling them they should just shut the fark up and sing...
2013-01-23 11:10:54 AM
1 votes:
Pants-crapping draft-dodger, pedophile, marginally talented guitarist (hey, he's better than me!), psychopathic chickenhawk...

...can we not all come together and agree that Damn Yankees was a horrible, horrible band?
2013-01-23 11:08:38 AM
1 votes:

The Evil Home Brewer: The argument of "home defense" is often brought up in support of these weapons. If someone broke into my house I suspect the sound of racking a shell into one of my shotguns or into my lever-action Winchester would be enough for them to take what they already have and leave. I don't have a problem with that. My homeowner's insurance covers replacement.


Heh... I got a rifle and shotgun in the house, but in the event of someone breaking into my home, I think I prefer to defend my home with the half a hockey stick I have in the closet (next to the gun safe). I like my chances, in my home, in the dark or daylight against any intruder, armed or otherwise....

But that's really just macho masturbatory fantasizing... My home has never been burglarized or invaded and my city has a violent crime rate 5 times the national average. Hell, I can't even remember the last time I had any kind of violent altercation with another person... maybe a first fight or two in high school. It's not my firearms keeping me and the family safe. If anything, it's the fact that every ground floor entrance (doors, windows, and bulkhead) is secured when we're home and alarmed when we're out and I have good relationships with all my neighbors and we keep an eye out for each others' property.

Hell, my elderly Portuguese neighbors, who spend the day peeking between the shades when they hear any noises, are more of a deterrent to scum bags than any firearm.
2013-01-23 11:02:08 AM
1 votes:

Farkage: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?

Yes, it means "in its natural state". Look up the dictionary definitions from an 18th century dictionary and see for yourself how that phrase was used when the 2nd amendment was written.


I hardly ever post in Politics threads, and I'm probably just feeding the trolls, but...

I find it the height of ridiculousness that Teahadists and insurrectionists keep trotting out this lame trope when they fulminate about the "true" meaning of the 2nd Amendment ("LOL look it up in an 18th century dictionary libtardz!!!"). I mean, seriously, have YOU ever consulted an 18th century dictionary? Perhaps you should, and the first definitions you should consider looking up would be "gun," "firearm," "matchlock," and "musket". You might be surprised that the all-knowing Founding Fathers had no way of anticipating the leaps in weapons technology that we see today, more than TWO CENTURIES LATER. I mean, today's date and time was an even more remote a future to Jefferson and Adams as the Star Trek universe is to us. Shocking, I know. Oh, and while you're at it, look up the definition of "militia" while you're at it. Then consider consulting an actual history book or two, maybe even some of the writings of the actual Founding Fathers, to gain perspective on what was actually happening at that time and what people actually thought about it.

I know, a truly radical thought. One might even say, revolutionary.

In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy the richly deserved mockery that so richly, skewers, roasts and devours your derp.

/Dammit, now I'm hungry. Roast derp for lunch, anyone?
2013-01-23 10:58:16 AM
1 votes:

pxsteel: Requiring a background check for every gun transfer is impossible to enforce.


There will be no need to enforce it. I have been told that gun owners are law abiding folks, so I am sure they will all follow the new requirement.
2013-01-23 10:47:17 AM
1 votes:

ranak: trea·son /ˈtrizən/ Show Spelled[tree-zuhn] Show IPA
noun
1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.


So, basically, the entire federal government is guilty of treason at one point or another.
2013-01-23 10:46:40 AM
1 votes:

GiantRex: Acts committed by King George the British Parliament which led to the American revolution:


It's a minor quibble, but an important one. After all, if the King could do all these things, nobody would have had representation.
2013-01-23 10:37:00 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: I hate to burst your bubble, but England was not a foreign government as you believe, it was our government.


Hmm, a government in which we were afforded no representation.

Kind of like democrats with all the gerrymandering? Democrats aren't represented (fairly) in the legitimate government, demanding we act by revolting against the current government?
2013-01-23 10:35:00 AM
1 votes:
www.ojocientifico.com
Damn he ugly
2013-01-23 10:32:18 AM
1 votes:

HAMMERTOE: Philip Francis Queeg: They weren't completely against a standing Army. The US Constitution allows a standing army.

And the Second Amendment allowed for the regulation of this standing army by an armed populace.


Did it account for their sheep-like slaughter after trying to enforce this regulation due to their lack of airplanes, tanks, high explosives, and such?
2013-01-23 10:30:40 AM
1 votes:

keylock71: Having said that, I want nothing to do with the modern NRA. They're not defending my interests or freedoms, they're defending the interests of gun manufacturers with deep pockets.


This is pretty much why I dropped out of the NRA as well. It became clear a few years ago that their mission had changed. We really do need an organization like the NRA of the old days, though - I don't think there's enough of an emphasis on gun safety as there should be.

/don't point it at anything you don't want dead.
//always assume it's loaded
///finger off the trigger until you're really ready to fire.
2013-01-23 10:16:51 AM
1 votes:
This whole idea of revolution (and succession) disgusts me. Obama didn't steal the election... He was elected by a majority of the voters and earned the majority of the electoral votes. These "patriotic" Americans like Nugent are the real enemy (Just saying.... No real insight in that statement). However, the idea that armed insurrection is the solution because your candidate lost an election? That alone proves that Nugent and his wacko buddies aren't true Americans.

I have several buddies in the military.... and yes, the military isn't overly impressed with Obama (or Democratic candidates in general) but they support their Commander-in-Chief.

Bring it Nugent..... I hope you're smiling when some Republican-favoring Delta or Seal badasses storm your compound and put a bullet between your eyes. Should that happen? Bury him at sea in Lake Michigan so other nuts don't have a gravesite to make a shrine.

/ Michigander who likes Nugent's music but hates his radical ideas
// Yes....Michigan is full of crazy people....Most of them own guns. Show me a state that doesn't have their fair share of nutcases and radicals.
/// I sometimes wish Deer had the intelligence to stalk and shoot idiots like Nugent.
//// Yes.... I own rifles and shotguns.... Yes I hunt .... No I'm not worried about Obama taking my guns away
2013-01-23 10:15:50 AM
1 votes:
The guy is a miserable musician <b>subby</b>. Quick! Think of a Ted Nugent song! You can't, because his stuff is crap. The pinnacle of his artistic "achievement" was, if I recall correctly, a song whose lyrics include, "Whang, dang, sweet poon-tang." His music is crap, his lifestyle is crap, and his social commentary is crap.
2013-01-23 10:15:41 AM
1 votes:

Fart_Machine: The biggest threat to the Second Amendment isn't liberals, it's idiots like this speaking on behalf of the Second Amendment.


Exactly. It's why the rest of us can't have nice things.
2013-01-23 10:13:55 AM
1 votes:

oldfarthenry: Methinks this Wacko will be Janet Reno-ed soonishly.


This comment speaks volumes.

You see, it's not so much that the libs are "anti-gun"; it's that they are "anti-independence". They are all for guns, as long as those guns are handled by the government-approved, jack-booted "wacko" thugs they have deluded their selves that they have some marginal amount of control over, despite any and all history lessons to the contrary. '
"We live in a democracy!" is their universal cry, ignoring the fact that the Native Americans who were all but exterminated for their claim to a Democracy, lived in a "democracy" too. And ignoring that their "Democratic" government hides more from them than it reveals these days. How can you even remotely rationalize that you live in a "democracy" when you aren't even half-aware of the conditions of your existence? You are less than pawns in a game played by the rich and influential. Bodies to be thrown at their enemies in wars to protect their cash-flow and their monopoly on control. Just like the Judiciary frowns upon the subject of Jury Nullification because it lessens their absolute rule over the court, those who seek totalitarian rule by the other branches of government have got to lessen the influence of the average citizen through the ability to project force, because that's the role of government, when you distill it down to its bare essence. They always seek to ridicule, "We're not trying to totally disarm the 'gun nuts'!", implying that you've got to be crazy for suspecting that their final goal is totalitarian control. They're not stupid. And they know you're not stupid. So, their only possible resort is to question your sanity and hurl insults. They've got to get you angry so they can paint you as "out of control" and rationalize to their selves and anybody who will listen that you're better off being defenseless and at the mercy of the power-hungry. They ignore the tens of millions of responsible gun owners and focus upon the criminal acts of the extremely few people who don't have any business possessing a gun in the first place, then seek to implicate the responsible gun owners by association.
2013-01-23 10:11:05 AM
1 votes:

give me doughnuts: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?

Yes, it means "well-maintained" and "operating correctly."

Do you know what "the right of the people" means?



And which arms have been taken out of your hands?
2013-01-23 10:11:04 AM
1 votes:

give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.

It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.

Try again.

Why? I was right the first time.


No, I'm afraid you were not. The phrase "bear arms" referred to formal military service. If we want to go strictly by the common definitions of the time, the 2nd Amendment should be recognized as giving the right for everyone to join the military.
2013-01-23 10:08:49 AM
1 votes:
Ted Nugent is one of those artists from the '70s that I've heard of, but whose songs I've never actually heard. A bit like Peter Frampton and Gary Glitter.

Frampton only wanted Sonic Youth's watermelon, so I'm going to give him a break.

Glitter and Nugent is a bit of a toss-up. But I'm going to say Glitter was the better human being.

Glitter just farked kids.

Nugent was fine with shiatting his pants so that some other poor bastard would be drafted in his place, and then epitomising the term chickenhawk for the rest of his days.
2013-01-23 10:06:47 AM
1 votes:

someonelse: Everyone always talks about his pants-pooping draft dodging, but people rarely mention his having himself declared the legal guardian of his 17-year-old girlfriend, when he was 30. That's pretty gross, too.


Yep... Creepy as fark.

I don't know the man personally, of course, but in all the years I've, unfortunately, been aware of Ted Nugent, I've yet to see one redeemable quality in the man-child.
2013-01-23 10:05:38 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: [24.media.tumblr.com image 850x468]


Are you equating Ted Nugent with Peter Fonda, Dennis Hopper and Terry Southern (plus Jack Nicholson by proxy)?

DIAF
2013-01-23 10:04:19 AM
1 votes:
Everyone always talks about his pants-pooping draft dodging, but people rarely mention his having himself declared the legal guardian of his 17-year-old girlfriend, when he was 30. That's pretty gross, too.
2013-01-23 10:03:33 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: thurstonxhowell: david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.

And this one....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

And this one too...

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

Most people are aware of that. Here's the thing though: If they lost the war, they'd have been put to death.

Those who did not support their war likely would have supported that result. If Ted Nugent and his buddies take up arms against the US, that's what will happen to them and many in this thread would support it.

Thinking the American Revolution was necessary and proper in no way obligates me to believe that Ted Nugent's revolution is necessary and proper. Why you think it does is a mystery to me.

.
I have a silly hang up on an odd concept called freedom, and freedom from tyranny. Sorry, but I do not share your desire to be a mere subject to huge and out of control government.


So when are you going to take up arms, Patriot Hero?
2013-01-23 10:02:54 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: I have a silly hang up on an odd concept called freedom, and freedom from tyranny. Sorry, but I do not share your desire to be a mere subject to huge and out of control government.


That's not what we disagree on. Grow up.
2013-01-23 10:00:06 AM
1 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.


It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.
2013-01-23 09:59:17 AM
1 votes:

Farkage: I'm about as pro second amendment as you can get, but why does anyone listen to this a-hole?

/Mostly Democrat too. That seems to confuse people.


You want confusion? Wear one of these to the range next time:

skreened.com
2013-01-23 09:58:02 AM
1 votes:
grew up thinking Ted was cool, he was respected by the ubiquitous hunter culture in Michigan for the most part. You can't go ten steps without hearing 'Fred Bear' within a week of Nov. 15th around here. I saw him in concert 3 or 4 times growing up...whiplash bash was always a good time.
I've played guitar for a couple decades and although I never considered him one of the greats, some of his stuff is ok by me.

all that said, the shiat that has come out of this a-holes mouth in the last several years has been absolutely ridiculous, embarrassing, pants-shiattingly stoopid, Victoria Jacksonian garbage.

I'm sorry this guy was and is associated with Michigan. As a life long Michigander, I'm sorry everyone...very very sorry.

he wont go out in some fire fight, he's a coward, he's all talk. He'd like to incite others to take up arms and go to war, but he sure as hell wont be in the crowd.
He may end up getting in trouble with his mouth, but a guy like that always backs down when real shiat is happening.
2013-01-23 09:56:44 AM
1 votes:

keylock71: give me doughnuts: Do you know what "the right of the people" means?

I do... It means I'm not shiatting my pants that the government is going to come and take the two firearms I do own and that background checks and mandatory firearms training (which I had to pass in order to get my F.I.D.) did not infringe my right, nor prevent me from owning and keeping said firearms... And both firearms are "well-regulated" in both senses of the term. I have no problem with that, at all.

In short, you're barking up the wrong tree with that line of attack, my friend.



Actually I was quoting from the 1st and 4th Amendments, but you just keep right on jumping to the wrong conclusions.
Universal background checks on firearm transfers, and manadatory training for concealed-carry permits are a great ideas.
2013-01-23 09:56:14 AM
1 votes:

Farkage: I'm about as pro second amendment as you can get, but why does anyone listen to this a-hole?

/Mostly Democrat too. That seems to confuse people.



Because he speaks NRA, the only language some 2nd Amendment people seem to speak. I'm an Independent who likes my guns, but I won't associate with the National Retards Association, not only do they NOT represent the actual best interests of gun owners, I also don't want to be on a "list" anywhere... NRA is second only to PETA when it comes to a special interest group with no farking clue how to represent their interests effectively.
2013-01-23 09:56:02 AM
1 votes:
Far more tame than the crap you and yours spew.

I recall your side walking down the streets with signs saying you want to kill US soldiers and Bush. But you like that.
2013-01-23 09:54:07 AM
1 votes:
A lot of people seem to be eager to defend a known pedophile like the Nuge.
2013-01-23 09:52:49 AM
1 votes:

give me doughnuts: Do you know what "the right of the people" means?


I do... It means I'm not shiatting my pants that the government is going to come and take the two firearms I do own and that background checks and mandatory firearms training (which I had to pass in order to get my F.I.D.) did not infringe my right, nor prevent me from owning and keeping said firearms... And both firearms are "well-regulated" in both senses of the term. I have no problem with that, at all.

In short, you're barking up the wrong tree with that line of attack, my friend.
2013-01-23 09:51:27 AM
1 votes:

Lord_Baull: Nothing says patriotism like inciting an armed insurrection to oust a democratically-elected official.


.
If the majority voted to ban gay marriage you would be in support of that too?

How about slavery? To bring back the days of your great grand pappy would probably be a wet dream for you.
2013-01-23 09:49:49 AM
1 votes:

endmile: bungle_jr: Philip Francis Queeg: He added that Obama "hires, appoints and associates with communists," and that he's "an evil, dangerous man who hates America and hates freedom. And we need to fix this as soon as possible."

What a farking moron.

he is but one mere moron. with access to mass media. the problem is all the sheep who are not famous who also believe and support the same message.

everytime i see one of my fb friends (i have some old friends who are otherwise good people, but they're caught up in the whole crazy right-wing rhetoric) post pics and messages equating obama to hitler i cringe. i want to say something, but can't even think of the words. a comparison to the pure evil genius of hitler is an incredible accusation. obama may or may not be a good president. i don't get into politics. but i assure you he is not in the same league as someone like hitler.

I hear you. Unfortunately in my case, the idiots equating obama to hitler are my family.


luckily, even though the majority of my family are republicans, or at the very least anti-obama, none have shown to me that they are nutjobs about it. i'm neither republican nor democrat...sort of apolitical, i suppose...there is plenty of good and bad on all sides of the political spectrum. in the words of the great violent femmes "i am n-o-t-h-i-n". however, i think obama is trying his hardest (right or wrong, good or bad...but all good in his view) to bring our nation back from the depths that it sunk to in the 8 years prior to his presidency.

and no, i am not blaming bush for all our woes. he and his administration are indeed responsible for a good deal of it, but many of our problems can be traced back to administrations prior to w's time in the white house.

clinton did a lot of great stuff, and under his leadership we grew to the greatest prosperity the nation has seen in my lifetime. but some problems that later grew (whether they started out as problems before or during his term) got pushed off to later year
2013-01-23 09:49:19 AM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: I'm going to guess he doesn't get a lot of Negros at his concerts.


Plenty, but that are all working at the concert venue.
2013-01-23 09:46:18 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.

And this one....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

And this one too...

[www.biography.com image 402x402]


So was this one..

www.biography.com

And this one..

www.biography.com
2013-01-23 09:44:37 AM
1 votes:

keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?


Yes, it means "in its natural state". Look up the dictionary definitions from an 18th century dictionary and see for yourself how that phrase was used when the 2nd amendment was written.
2013-01-23 09:44:09 AM
1 votes:

misanthropologist: Nugent is about as reasonable and relevant as Trump. I reckon Trump could do more long-term damage to the world with his money (assuming that it is his money, and not a whole shiatload of leveraged debt), but Nugent seems destined to go out in a blaze of idiocy, Ruby Ridge or Waco style.


I challenge our conservative Farkers who piss vinegar all day long in every thread to find any liberal celebrity who was half as crazy as these two during Bush's tenure.
2013-01-23 09:44:04 AM
1 votes:

olddeegee: Headline is wrong. He could never play guitar. He can be flashy, but any kid in a Guitar Center for the first time can out play this ass.


Kids at Guitar Center play out your ass? Do they pay you for it?

/c'mon, admit it - that's funny
2013-01-23 09:43:44 AM
1 votes:
I'm going to guess he doesn't get a lot of Negros at his concerts.
2013-01-23 09:42:57 AM
1 votes:
What a whole boatload of treasonous bastards look like. They will kill you in your sleep on Christmas!

www.mountvernon.org
2013-01-23 09:42:20 AM
1 votes:
His old wound "from 'Nam" is the diaper rash he got while dodging the draft.

You're a coward, Ted.
2013-01-23 09:41:42 AM
1 votes:

Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?


Should he give us back our machine guns and rocket launchers? MY RIGHTS HAVE BEEN INFRINGED.
2013-01-23 09:41:27 AM
1 votes:

strangeguitar: He's really not that great a guitar player.


stranglehold is the jam. it might be easy to play, but can you play it?
2013-01-23 09:39:41 AM
1 votes:
He's a nutcase. In fact, he's just as much as a mouth breathing nutcase as the people in this thread wishing death upon him.
2013-01-23 09:39:40 AM
1 votes:

Anderson's Pooper: Alfonso the Great: That guy is the worst thing to ever come out of Michigan.


He's sold more albums than Ford sold Edsels so I would disagree with your premise.


The main problem with Edsels was that they didn't make noise when you wanted them to. Nugent's got the opposite problem; he won't STFU.
2013-01-23 09:38:05 AM
1 votes:

Alfonso the Great: That guy is the worst thing to ever come out of Michigan.



He's sold more albums than Ford sold Edsels so I would disagree with your premise.
2013-01-23 09:34:34 AM
1 votes:

oldfarthenry: Methinks this Wacko will be Janet Reno-ed soonishly.


I hope not. The last thing this country needs is for Ted Nugent to become a sacrifice or martyr. The apocalypse would start (in the mind of the crazies).
2013-01-23 09:33:37 AM
1 votes:
Treason is a charged word, subby.
Its also terribly vague.

The King of England would have charged the Continental Congress with treason for not sitting back and taking his abuse. The Congress themselves found the king to be in violation of our trust as previously loyal citizens.
There's no doubt what either would have done to the other had history delivered one to their opponents gallows.

/To be fair, if a new fracas started as things are now its unlikely to go as either side intends it to.
/Civil wars are messy like that. Which is why they should be avoided.
2013-01-23 09:33:19 AM
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Dear Ted,
Enjoy your visit from the Secret Service. Inciting people to treason... awesome. (NOT)
2013-01-23 09:33:07 AM
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born_yesterday


This latest outrage has given me the sudden urge to purchase one of his albums.

/Or shiat myself in homage, I haven't figured out which, yet


You can do a little of both: purchase one of his albums and then empty your bowels on it (rather than in your trousers).
2013-01-23 09:30:44 AM
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It must really hurt to be irrelevant.
2013-01-23 09:26:27 AM
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GiantRex: Speaking to fans during an NBC-sponsored gun show, Nugent said that Obama "is attempting to re-implement the tyranny of King George that we escaped from in 1776," adding: "If you want another Concord bridge, I've got some buddies."

Acts committed by King George which led to the American revolution:

- Navigation Acts (blocked American trade with the French, Spanish, and Dutch)
- Molasses Act (tax for the purpose of making the British export cheaper than that from the French West Indies, "encouraging" colonists to buy British)
- Royal Proclamation of 1763 (restricted settlement west of the Appalachian Mountains)
- Sugar Act (enacted because of colonial evasion of the Molasses Act, also known as the American Revenues Act)
- Currency Act (regulated and restricted the paper money issued in the colonies for the purpose of preventing British creditors and merchants from being paid in depreciated colonial currency, resulted in a shortage of coin in the colonies and complicated the payment of debts)
- Quartering Acts (primary reason for the existence of the Third Amendment)
- Stamp Act of 1765 (required printed materials to be printed on special paper with an embossed revenue stamp, stamps had to be purchased with hard currency [see Currency Act], tax levied for the purpose of paying for the Seven Years' War)
- Declaratory Act (asserted that parliament's authority was the same in the colonies as it was in Britain and therefore could pass laws binding on the American colonies... despite the colonies having no representation in parliament)
- Townshend Acts (series of five laws enacted for the purpose of forcing the colonies to subsidize British occupation and law enforcement in the colonies)
- Tea Act (tax/racket enacted for the purpose of forcing colonists to buy off the surplus of tea from the British East India Company, resulted in the infamous Boston Tea Party)
- Quebec Act (extended Quebec's boundaries to the Ohio River, shutting out territorial claims of the 13 colonie ...


You take your 'facts' and your 'knowledge' and you go elsewhere, sir.
2013-01-23 09:24:00 AM
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Ted Nugent is a popular figure in my town. He visits our little town when he goes hunting in our marsh. He has a zebra striped piece of crap truck. I am waiting to see the truck again so I can slap an Obama sticker on it.

/I hate him
//sometimes it feels like I live in Ted Nugentville
2013-01-23 09:22:15 AM
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Nugent is about as reasonable and relevant as Trump. I reckon Trump could do more long-term damage to the world with his money (assuming that it is his money, and not a whole shiatload of leveraged debt), but Nugent seems destined to go out in a blaze of idiocy, Ruby Ridge or Waco style.
 
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