HotWingConspiracy: That's a big thing the revolutards can't understand - the vast majority of Americans don't agree with their definition of tyranny or oppression.There will be no popular uprising, you're going to have to kill your friends and neighbors. This will not work out.
Thune: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?And this is where the ignorance is because you just demonstrated that YOU don't know what "Well-Regulated" means.Back when the Constitution was written the phrase "well-regulated" meant "in good order" or "well running".They use to refer to clocks as "Well-regulated".They didn't mean there were laws written by the federal government about how a clock should run.The phrase "well-regulated" in the Constitution had NOTHING to do with written regulations by the federal or state government, as the person of today would take that phrase to mean.
Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?
born_yesterday: This latest outrage has given me the sudden urge to purchase one of his albums./Or shiat myself in homage, I haven't figured out which, yet
GiantRex: Speaking to fans during an NBC-sponsored gun show, Nugent said that Obama "is attempting to re-implement the tyranny of King George that we escaped from in 1776," adding: "If you want another Concord bridge, I've got some buddies."Acts committed by King George which led to the American revolution:- Navigation Acts (blocked American trade with the French, Spanish, and Dutch)- Molasses Act (tax for the purpose of making the British export cheaper than that from the French West Indies, "encouraging" colonists to buy British)- Royal Proclamation of 1763 (restricted settlement west of the Appalachian Mountains)- Sugar Act (enacted because of colonial evasion of the Molasses Act, also known as the American Revenues Act)- Currency Act (regulated and restricted the paper money issued in the colonies for the purpose of preventing British creditors and merchants from being paid in depreciated colonial currency, resulted in a shortage of coin in the colonies and complicated the payment of debts)- Quartering Acts (primary reason for the existence of the Third Amendment)- Stamp Act of 1765 (required printed materials to be printed on special paper with an embossed revenue stamp, stamps had to be purchased with hard currency [see Currency Act], tax levied for the purpose of paying for the Seven Years' War)- Declaratory Act (asserted that parliament's authority was the same in the colonies as it was in Britain and therefore could pass laws binding on the American colonies... despite the colonies having no representation in parliament)- Townshend Acts (series of five laws enacted for the purpose of forcing the colonies to subsidize British occupation and law enforcement in the colonies)- Tea Act (tax/racket enacted for the purpose of forcing colonists to buy off the surplus of tea from the British East India Company, resulted in the infamous Boston Tea Party)- Quebec Act (extended Quebec's boundaries to the Ohio River, shutting out territorial claims of the 13 colonie ...
give me doughnuts: And once upon a time (adjusts onion), the NRA was all about marksmanship and gun safety courses. Hell, I went to a summer camp that had an NRA-sponsored marksmanship/safety class, and I knew a bunch of guys that did it with the BSA.
david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.And this one....[www.biography.com image 402x402]And this one too...[www.biography.com image 402x402]
Coco LaFemme: pants-shiatting coward.
karnal: Welcome to the liberal mindset. Doesn't matter if you're a musician, author, sports figure or movie star or whatever....once you are tagged a 'conservative' anything you have ever done before sucks and you are an asshat./closed-minded reactionaries and bigots
give me doughnuts: Actually I was quoting from the 1st and 4th Amendments, but you just keep right on jumping to the wrong conclusions.Universal background checks on firearm transfers, and manadatory training for concealed-carry permits are a great ideas.
Diogenes: He's basically making the schoolyard threat that his big brother can beat up your Big Brother.
olddeegee: Headline is wrong. He could never play guitar. He can be flashy, but any kid in a Guitar Center for the first time can out play this ass.
7FARK7: He understands it more than President Obama.
dc0012c: Farkage: I'm about as pro second amendment as you can get, but why does anyone listen to this a-hole?/Mostly Democrat too. That seems to confuse people.You want confusion? Wear one of these to the range next time:
armoredbulldozer: So we'll buy him a dictionary. He's still a better American than ObaMao is.
HAMMERTOE: Keizer_Ghidorah: And now we have someone who thinks liberals were the only ones who genocided Native Americans. This thread is a smorgasbord of silly.Of course not. But their "hero and protector", (the government,) was directly responsible, both through action and policy
vudukungfu: I'm going to guess he doesn't get a lot of Negros at his concerts.
rufus-t-firefly: Subby forgot "how to avoid the draft."
hdhale: BronyMedic: Maybe he's just working his way up to his eventual suicide because Obama won.[img1-cdn.newser.com image 240x160]Time to nut up or shut up, Teddy Boy. Can't shiat your pants on this one.If every Liberal Democrat who proclaimed in 2000 and again in 2004 that they were leaving the US if George W. Bush were elected had actually done so, there would have been no Barrack Obama presidency. If everyone on the Left who said/did something that could be considered disloyal to the US where executed, then we would have had to suffer Jane Fonda workout tapes.Insurrections are done in support of a nation as well as in opposition to it. They start with people like Uncle Theodore here and the movement grows over time...or not.I do not support insurrection at this point, I do however very much understand why people would feel that way.
doczoidberg: Jebus Christmas. He's gone completely unhinged.It would be hilarious if the government actually did move to take away Ted's guns. -- Not everyone's guns, just Ted's.
HAMMERTOE: Corvus: Your not patriots your farking traitors who just because things don't go your way in a democracy you think you should force you beliefs on others through force.Just exactly WHO is trying to change things because "things aren't going their way" in this democracy? Through "force" (the power of government)?
HAMMERTOE: david_gaithersburg: Diogenes: david_gaithersburg: I have a silly hang up on an odd concept called freedom, and freedom from tyranny. Sorry, but I do not share your desire to be a mere subject to huge and out of control government.So we should have taken up arms against Bush and his government when they came up with the Patriot Act. Got it..Yes.Afraid I have to agree as well.
People_are_Idiots: markb289: czei: "He added that Obama "hires, appoints and associates with communists,"Nugent also doesn't know the definition of "communist".Just one of the many words Ted doesn't know the meaning of. Like "Patriot" and "American".The whole premise of him being a "communist" comes from a little list of his influences (which is mentioned in his book). It's riddled with communist, socialist, Anti-Israel, and racism. Take it and do with as you will. :)Marilyn Katz: SDS, Socialist, CPUSA, CoC, Public Relations to ObamaCarl Davidson: SDS, Marxist Socialist, Professor, Small school workshop, leading activist in the Chicago break away Socialist/Communist, "New Party" founder of Progressives for Obama, DSA, Communist party split organization Committees of Correspondence CoC.Mike Klonsky: SDS Weatherman, Maoist Communist, Small schools workshop, CoCWilliam Ayers: SDS Weatherman, Communist, UC Professor who writes curriculum for teaching teachers, Small schools workshop, CoC, Hugo Chavez honored him for his Socialist educational standards introduced to Venezuela.Bernadine Dohrn: SDS Weatherman, Communist, Professor, Lawyer, CPUSA organization CoCMark Rudd: SDS Weatherman, Socialist, Professor, Progressives for ObamaTom Hayden: SDS Weatherman, Communist, Professor, Advisory Board of Progressive Democrats of America, Initiated Progressives for Obama, CoCRev. Wright: Black Liberation Theology (Socialist) Racist Church, Obama's PastorRev. James Meeks: Black Liberation, Racist, Spiritual counsel, adviser, and friendTony Rezko: Chicago mobster, business associate, friendFrank Marshall Davis: CPUSA Communist from Chicago, four year mentor to teenage Obama in Hawaii, on FBI security arrest list from 1957 forward.Raila Odinga: ODM, Kenya Communist, Obama campaigned for his election in KenyaRichard Falk: IADL Communist, America hater, Professor and friend until his deathEdward Said: Jew hater, America hater, Obama Professor and friend until his deathRoberto Unger: ...
thenewmissus: oldfarthenry: Methinks this Wacko will be Janet Reno-ed soonishly.I hope not. The last thing this country needs is for Ted Nugent to become a sacrifice or martyr. The apocalypse would start (in the mind of the crazies).
markb289: czei: "He added that Obama "hires, appoints and associates with communists,"Nugent also doesn't know the definition of "communist".Just one of the many words Ted doesn't know the meaning of. Like "Patriot" and "American".
david_gaithersburg: I did my part by voting for Ron Paul and joining the Tea Party.
catchow: Farkage: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?Yes, it means "in its natural state". Look up the dictionary definitions from an 18th century dictionary and see for yourself how that phrase was used when the 2nd amendment was written.I hardly ever post in Politics threads, and I'm probably just feeding the trolls, but...I find it the height of ridiculousness that Teahadists and insurrectionists keep trotting out this lame trope when they fulminate about the "true" meaning of the 2nd Amendment ("LOL look it up in an 18th century dictionary libtardz!!!"). I mean, seriously, have YOU ever consulted an 18th century dictionary? Perhaps you should, and the first definitions you should consider looking up would be "gun," "firearm," "matchlock," and "musket". You might be surprised that the all-knowing Founding Fathers had no way of anticipating the leaps in weapons technology that we see today, more than TWO CENTURIES LATER. I mean, today's date and time was an even more remote a future to Jefferson and Adams as the Star Trek universe is to us. Shocking, I know. Oh, and while you're at it, look up the definition of "militia" while you're at it. Then consider consulting an actual history book or two, maybe even some of the writings of the actual Founding Fathers, to gain perspective on what was actually happening at that time and what people actually thought about it.I know, a truly radical thought. One might even say, revolutionary.In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy the richly deserved mockery that so richly, skewers, roasts and devours your derp./Dammit, now I'm hungry. Roast derp for lunch, anyone?
keylock71: My grandfather pretty much taught me to shoot (using an old clunky .22 at the rifle range at the Newport Naval Base). Seeing the way some folks these days treat their firearms like fashion accessories or political statements would have drove him nuts.
karnal: Welcome to the liberal mindset. Doesn't matter if you're a musician, author, sports figure or movie star or whatever....once you are tagged a 'conservative' anything you have ever done before sucks and you are an asshat.
The Evil Home Brewer: The argument of "home defense" is often brought up in support of these weapons. If someone broke into my house I suspect the sound of racking a shell into one of my shotguns or into my lever-action Winchester would be enough for them to take what they already have and leave. I don't have a problem with that. My homeowner's insurance covers replacement.
Farkage: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?Yes, it means "in its natural state". Look up the dictionary definitions from an 18th century dictionary and see for yourself how that phrase was used when the 2nd amendment was written.
pxsteel: Requiring a background check for every gun transfer is impossible to enforce.
ranak: trea·son /ˈtrizən/ Show Spelled[tree-zuhn] Show IPAnoun1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.
GiantRex: Acts committed by King George the British Parliament which led to the American revolution:
david_gaithersburg: I hate to burst your bubble, but England was not a foreign government as you believe, it was our government.
HAMMERTOE: Philip Francis Queeg: They weren't completely against a standing Army. The US Constitution allows a standing army.And the Second Amendment allowed for the regulation of this standing army by an armed populace.
keylock71: Having said that, I want nothing to do with the modern NRA. They're not defending my interests or freedoms, they're defending the interests of gun manufacturers with deep pockets.
Fart_Machine: The biggest threat to the Second Amendment isn't liberals, it's idiots like this speaking on behalf of the Second Amendment.
oldfarthenry: Methinks this Wacko will be Janet Reno-ed soonishly.
give me doughnuts: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?Yes, it means "well-maintained" and "operating correctly."Do you know what "the right of the people" means?
give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.Try again.Why? I was right the first time.
someonelse: Everyone always talks about his pants-pooping draft dodging, but people rarely mention his having himself declared the legal guardian of his 17-year-old girlfriend, when he was 30. That's pretty gross, too.
david_gaithersburg: [24.media.tumblr.com image 850x468]
david_gaithersburg: thurstonxhowell: david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.And this one....[www.biography.com image 402x402]And this one too...[www.biography.com image 402x402]Most people are aware of that. Here's the thing though: If they lost the war, they'd have been put to death.Those who did not support their war likely would have supported that result. If Ted Nugent and his buddies take up arms against the US, that's what will happen to them and many in this thread would support it.Thinking the American Revolution was necessary and proper in no way obligates me to believe that Ted Nugent's revolution is necessary and proper. Why you think it does is a mystery to me..I have a silly hang up on an odd concept called freedom, and freedom from tyranny. Sorry, but I do not share your desire to be a mere subject to huge and out of control government.
david_gaithersburg: I have a silly hang up on an odd concept called freedom, and freedom from tyranny. Sorry, but I do not share your desire to be a mere subject to huge and out of control government.
Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.
Farkage: I'm about as pro second amendment as you can get, but why does anyone listen to this a-hole?/Mostly Democrat too. That seems to confuse people.
keylock71: give me doughnuts: Do you know what "the right of the people" means?I do... It means I'm not shiatting my pants that the government is going to come and take the two firearms I do own and that background checks and mandatory firearms training (which I had to pass in order to get my F.I.D.) did not infringe my right, nor prevent me from owning and keeping said firearms... And both firearms are "well-regulated" in both senses of the term. I have no problem with that, at all.In short, you're barking up the wrong tree with that line of attack, my friend.
give me doughnuts: Do you know what "the right of the people" means?
Lord_Baull: Nothing says patriotism like inciting an armed insurrection to oust a democratically-elected official.
endmile: bungle_jr: Philip Francis Queeg: He added that Obama "hires, appoints and associates with communists," and that he's "an evil, dangerous man who hates America and hates freedom. And we need to fix this as soon as possible."What a farking moron.he is but one mere moron. with access to mass media. the problem is all the sheep who are not famous who also believe and support the same message.everytime i see one of my fb friends (i have some old friends who are otherwise good people, but they're caught up in the whole crazy right-wing rhetoric) post pics and messages equating obama to hitler i cringe. i want to say something, but can't even think of the words. a comparison to the pure evil genius of hitler is an incredible accusation. obama may or may not be a good president. i don't get into politics. but i assure you he is not in the same league as someone like hitler.I hear you. Unfortunately in my case, the idiots equating obama to hitler are my family.
keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?
misanthropologist: Nugent is about as reasonable and relevant as Trump. I reckon Trump could do more long-term damage to the world with his money (assuming that it is his money, and not a whole shiatload of leveraged debt), but Nugent seems destined to go out in a blaze of idiocy, Ruby Ridge or Waco style.
strangeguitar: He's really not that great a guitar player.
Anderson's Pooper: Alfonso the Great: That guy is the worst thing to ever come out of Michigan.He's sold more albums than Ford sold Edsels so I would disagree with your premise.
Alfonso the Great: That guy is the worst thing to ever come out of Michigan.
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