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(The Raw Story)   Ted Nugent may know a lot of things - how to play the hell out of a guitar, how to hunt with any type of weapon, how to swing from a vine wearing a loincloth - but he apparently does not understand the meaning of the word "treason"   (rawstory.com) divider line 471
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2013-01-23 10:06:47 AM

someonelse: Everyone always talks about his pants-pooping draft dodging, but people rarely mention his having himself declared the legal guardian of his 17-year-old girlfriend, when he was 30. That's pretty gross, too.


Yep... Creepy as fark.

I don't know the man personally, of course, but in all the years I've, unfortunately, been aware of Ted Nugent, I've yet to see one redeemable quality in the man-child.
 
2013-01-23 10:07:01 AM

david_gaithersburg: HotWingConspiracy: david_gaithersburg: Lord_Baull: Nothing says patriotism like inciting an armed insurrection to oust a democratically-elected official.

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If the majority voted to ban gay marriage you would be in support of that too?

How about slavery? To bring back the days of your great grand pappy would probably be a wet dream for you.

You think that voting in slavery is the same thing as electing a president?

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Please show where I said that? Now voting down the Second Amendment like they just did in NY.......


There ya go. I'm willing to accept you're just an idiot that doesn't actually read what he's quoting though.

Also, the 2nd Amendment wasn't voted down in NY.
 
2013-01-23 10:07:42 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.

It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.

Try again.


Why? I was right the first time.
 
2013-01-23 10:07:59 AM

david_gaithersburg: [24.media.tumblr.com image 850x468]


George Washington: Men, you face a brutal enemy, determined to crush you...uh, I say you and not we, because I've been shiatting in my pants for a couple of days so...


/what have you done for Ted lately?
 
2013-01-23 10:08:49 AM

give me doughnuts: And once upon a time (adjusts onion), the NRA was all about marksmanship and gun safety courses. Hell, I went to a summer camp that had an NRA-sponsored marksmanship/safety class, and I knew a bunch of guys that did it with the BSA.


Hell, the first safety course I took was an NRA course. It was excellent.

Having said that, I want nothing to do with the modern NRA. They're not defending my interests or freedoms, they're defending the interests of gun manufacturers with deep pockets.
 
2013-01-23 10:08:49 AM
Ted Nugent is one of those artists from the '70s that I've heard of, but whose songs I've never actually heard. A bit like Peter Frampton and Gary Glitter.

Frampton only wanted Sonic Youth's watermelon, so I'm going to give him a break.

Glitter and Nugent is a bit of a toss-up. But I'm going to say Glitter was the better human being.

Glitter just farked kids.

Nugent was fine with shiatting his pants so that some other poor bastard would be drafted in his place, and then epitomising the term chickenhawk for the rest of his days.
 
2013-01-23 10:09:07 AM

maram500: FTFA: "The comment was a reference to the Battle of Concord, in which a British soldier broke a standoff and fired upon assembled American militiamen, in what later became known as "the shot heard around the world" that helped launch the Revolutionary War."

...uh, not exactly. Sure, Nugent's comment referenced the Battle of Concord, but the rest of the paragraph is bullcrap of the highest order. The problem is that no one knows who fired first. Americans at the time claimed the Brits shot first, Brits claimed Americans shot first.


America won. Therefore the British shot first. qed.
 
2013-01-23 10:09:10 AM

coeyagi: Thune: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?

And this is where the ignorance is because you just demonstrated that YOU don't know what "Well-Regulated" means.

Back when the Constitution was written the phrase "well-regulated" meant "in good order" or "well running".

They use to refer to clocks as "Well-regulated".

They didn't mean there were laws written by the federal government about how a clock should run.

The phrase "well-regulated" in the Constitution had NOTHING to do with written regulations by the federal or state government, as the person of today would take that phrase to mean.

And you walked into the trap.

So, if according to you, we can't use "well-regulated" because it's outdated compared to the common venacular of today, then you can't mean "militia" to mean whatever you think it means today because back then it meant something else.

Double-edged swords - how do they work?



Where did i change the definition of "Militia" from its historical norm?

The use of the term "militia" in 1776 actually supports the case i'm making.

misplaced snark - how do they work?
 
2013-01-23 10:09:59 AM
Acts committed by King George which led to the American revolution:

- Navigation Acts (blocked American trade with the French, Spanish, and Dutch)
- Molasses Act (tax for the purpose of making the British export cheaper than that from the French West Indies, "encouraging" colonists to buy British)
- Royal Proclamation of 1763 (restricted settlement west of the Appalachian Mountains)
- Sugar Act (enacted because of colonial evasion of the Molasses Act, also known as the American Revenues Act)
- Currency Act (regulated and restricted the paper money issued in the colonies for the purpose of preventing British creditors and merchants from being paid in depreciated colonial currency, resulted in a shortage of coin in the colonies and complicated the payment of debts)
- Quartering Acts (primary reason for the existence of the Third Amendment)
- Stamp Act of 1765 (required printed materials to be printed on special paper with an embossed revenue stamp, stamps had to be purchased with hard currency [see Currency Act], tax levied for the purpose of paying for the Seven Years' War)
- Declaratory Act (asserted that parliament's authority was the same in the colonies as it was in Britain and therefore could pass laws binding on the American colonies... despite the colonies having no representation in parliament)
- Townshend Acts (series of five laws enacted for the purpose of forcing the colonies to subsidize British occupation and law enforcement in the colonies)
- Tea Act (tax/racket enacted for the purpose of forcing colonists to buy off the surplus of tea from the British East India Company, resulted in the infamous Boston Tea Party)
- Quebec Act (extended Quebec's boundaries to the Ohio River, shutting out territorial claims of the ...

You take your 'facts' and your 'knowledge' and you go elsewhere, sir.
I hate to burst your bubble, but England was not a foreign government as you believe, it was our government.


I don't agree with the comments, I do agree with the point being made. Overall none of it matters as our level of apathy will do us in anyway, one look at a sweet boobie and we have forgotten the subject at hand. God Bless America! (Though I am not sure that is high on God's "Things to do today list.") And, oh yeah, Nugent is a major A-Hole. Maybe he should try "Hunting" IED's in the Big "A".
 
2013-01-23 10:10:05 AM

keylock71: someonelse: Everyone always talks about his pants-pooping draft dodging, but people rarely mention his having himself declared the legal guardian of his 17-year-old girlfriend, when he was 30. That's pretty gross, too.

Yep... Creepy as fark.

I don't know the man personally, of course, but in all the years I've, unfortunately, been aware of Ted Nugent, I've yet to see one redeemable quality in the man-child.



If I were to pick someone to be the exact opposite of Ted Nugent, it would have been Woody Allen.
Back to the drawing board.
 
2013-01-23 10:10:15 AM

BronyMedic: Maybe he's just working his way up to his eventual suicide because Obama won.

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Time to nut up or shut up, Teddy Boy. Can't shiat your pants on this one.


If every Liberal Democrat who proclaimed in 2000 and again in 2004 that they were leaving the US if George W. Bush were elected had actually done so, there would have been no Barrack Obama presidency. If everyone on the Left who said/did something that could be considered disloyal to the US where executed, then we would have had to suffer Jane Fonda workout tapes.

Insurrections are done in support of a nation as well as in opposition to it. They start with people like Uncle Theodore here and the movement grows over time...or not.

I do not support insurrection at this point, I do however very much understand why people would feel that way.
 
2013-01-23 10:10:47 AM

dc0012c: Farkage: I'm about as pro second amendment as you can get, but why does anyone listen to this a-hole?

/Mostly Democrat too. That seems to confuse people.

You want confusion? Wear one of these to the range next time:


Holy shiat do I need one of those, lol!
 
2013-01-23 10:10:58 AM
The biggest threat to the Second Amendment isn't liberals, it's idiots like this speaking on behalf of the Second Amendment.
 
2013-01-23 10:11:04 AM

give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.

It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.

Try again.

Why? I was right the first time.


No, I'm afraid you were not. The phrase "bear arms" referred to formal military service. If we want to go strictly by the common definitions of the time, the 2nd Amendment should be recognized as giving the right for everyone to join the military.
 
2013-01-23 10:11:05 AM

give me doughnuts: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?

Yes, it means "well-maintained" and "operating correctly."

Do you know what "the right of the people" means?



And which arms have been taken out of your hands?
 
2013-01-23 10:11:44 AM

jchic: BronyMedic: Maybe he's just working his way up to his eventual suicide because Obama won.

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Time to nut up or shut up, Teddy Boy. Can't shiat your pants on this one.

Sure he can, don't the bowels tend to release when death occurs?


I don't think butting up was an option but it would be the end result one way or another.
 
2013-01-23 10:12:09 AM

david_gaithersburg: I have a silly hang up on an odd concept called freedom, and freedom from tyranny. Sorry, but I do not share your desire to be a mere subject to huge and out of control government.


So we should have taken up arms against Bush and his government when they came up with the Patriot Act.  Got it.
 
2013-01-23 10:13:09 AM
Seems like as good a place as any to voice an idea I've had about your gun laws.

Personally, I think every last American citizen does have the right, guaranteed by your Constitution and committed to by your fore fathers, to own, posses and use firearms. I think every American should own a gun.
That being said, you should have access to those weapons at any time.
In a supervised and restricted setting.
My idea, is you can have your weapons and use them. Only at an approved gun range under the supervision of a range Marshall. You can go, use your guns, but you can never remove them from that supervised setting for any reason. If you want to move them, you must use a bonded mover that will move your weapon from point a to b. Ammunition can only be purchased at an approved gun range for use only at that range. Each round of ammunition has a micro dot stamp embedded in the casting which is impossible to remove. If purchased ammo is used in an illegal setting, the ammunition can be traced back to the seller and owner.

It needs some tweaking, but, it get's around the complaint that politicians want to remove your access to guns. It gets around your possession and use laws and restricts those uses to the intended environment.

Fill in the blanks, be my guest. Your country needs to move forward on this.
 
2013-01-23 10:13:09 AM

Lord_Baull: give me doughnuts: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?

Yes, it means "well-maintained" and "operating correctly."

Do you know what "the right of the people" means?


And which arms have been taken out of your hands?


That was dealt with way up-thread. Try to keep up.
 
2013-01-23 10:13:20 AM

give me doughnuts: If I were to pick someone to be the exact opposite of Ted Nugent, it would have been Woody Allen.
Back to the drawing board.


I can see that... Though, Woody doesn't tend to publicize his mental problems as often, and I'd give Woody the edge in artistic talent. : )
 
2013-01-23 10:13:30 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.

It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.

Try again.

Why? I was right the first time.

No, I'm afraid you were not. The phrase "bear arms" referred to formal military service. If we want to go strictly by the common definitions of the time, the 2nd Amendment should be recognized as giving the right for everyone to join the military.


How do you reconcile that with the fact the founding fathers were completely against having a standing army?
 
2013-01-23 10:13:55 AM

oldfarthenry: Methinks this Wacko will be Janet Reno-ed soonishly.


This comment speaks volumes.

You see, it's not so much that the libs are "anti-gun"; it's that they are "anti-independence". They are all for guns, as long as those guns are handled by the government-approved, jack-booted "wacko" thugs they have deluded their selves that they have some marginal amount of control over, despite any and all history lessons to the contrary. '
"We live in a democracy!" is their universal cry, ignoring the fact that the Native Americans who were all but exterminated for their claim to a Democracy, lived in a "democracy" too. And ignoring that their "Democratic" government hides more from them than it reveals these days. How can you even remotely rationalize that you live in a "democracy" when you aren't even half-aware of the conditions of your existence? You are less than pawns in a game played by the rich and influential. Bodies to be thrown at their enemies in wars to protect their cash-flow and their monopoly on control. Just like the Judiciary frowns upon the subject of Jury Nullification because it lessens their absolute rule over the court, those who seek totalitarian rule by the other branches of government have got to lessen the influence of the average citizen through the ability to project force, because that's the role of government, when you distill it down to its bare essence. They always seek to ridicule, "We're not trying to totally disarm the 'gun nuts'!", implying that you've got to be crazy for suspecting that their final goal is totalitarian control. They're not stupid. And they know you're not stupid. So, their only possible resort is to question your sanity and hurl insults. They've got to get you angry so they can paint you as "out of control" and rationalize to their selves and anybody who will listen that you're better off being defenseless and at the mercy of the power-hungry. They ignore the tens of millions of responsible gun owners and focus upon the criminal acts of the extremely few people who don't have any business possessing a gun in the first place, then seek to implicate the responsible gun owners by association.
 
2013-01-23 10:14:01 AM
The Nuge doesn't go huntin'. The Nuge goes killin'. If the animal in in a pen, it ain't huntin'. But then I wouldn't expect much from a draft-dodger.
 
2013-01-23 10:14:26 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.

It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.

Try again.

Why? I was right the first time.

No, I'm afraid you were not. The phrase "bear arms" referred to formal military service. If we want to go strictly by the common definitions of the time, the 2nd Amendment should be recognized as giving the right for everyone to join the military.



And I'm sure you have a vast list of historical citation to prove this assertion?

/we really need a sarcasm font
 
2013-01-23 10:14:42 AM

david_gaithersburg: Lord_Baull: Nothing says patriotism like inciting an armed insurrection to oust a democratically-elected official.

.
If the majority voted to ban gay marriage you would be in support of that too?

How about slavery? To bring back the days of your great grand pappy would probably be a wet dream for you.



Sounds like you're not familiar with how elections work.
Actually, that's the only coherent thing I could glean off your post, sorry if I was mistaken and there really isn't any coherency.
 
2013-01-23 10:15:04 AM

Blue_Blazer: My birthday is April 17 (ya rly) and I cannot think of a better present than this scumbag dead or in jail.


I can't think of a better birthday present for me (September 11th) than to have the DEA raid your house by mistake executing a "no knock" warrant, and lose control of their trigger fingers.

See how that works? Stop wishing people dead or in jail simply because you think the 1st amendment is only for people who agree with you.
 
2013-01-23 10:15:41 AM

Fart_Machine: The biggest threat to the Second Amendment isn't liberals, it's idiots like this speaking on behalf of the Second Amendment.


Exactly. It's why the rest of us can't have nice things.
 
2013-01-23 10:15:50 AM
The guy is a miserable musician <b>subby</b>. Quick! Think of a Ted Nugent song! You can't, because his stuff is crap. The pinnacle of his artistic "achievement" was, if I recall correctly, a song whose lyrics include, "Whang, dang, sweet poon-tang." His music is crap, his lifestyle is crap, and his social commentary is crap.
 
2013-01-23 10:15:55 AM

SixOfDLoC: I suspect the whole purpose of the first amendment is to protect exactly such declarations.


Free speech has limits to its protection such as "clear and present danger" and "imminent lawless action". Basically if Ted's words could be construed as inciting acts of violence or other unlawful activity in the immediate future then it's not protected speech and he could be charged with conspiracy, inciting injury, sedition or whatever.
 
2013-01-23 10:15:59 AM

Farkage: Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.

It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.

Try again.

Why? I was right the first time.

No, I'm afraid you were not. The phrase "bear arms" referred to formal military service. If we want to go strictly by the common definitions of the time, the 2nd Amendment should be recognized as giving the right for everyone to join the military.

How do you reconcile that with the fact the founding fathers were completely against having a standing army?


They weren't completely against a standing Army. The US Constitution allows a standing army.
 
2013-01-23 10:16:25 AM

hdhale: If every Liberal Democrat who proclaimed in 2000 and again in 2004 that they were leaving the US if George W. Bush were elected had actually done so, there would have been no Barrack Obama presidency. /i>

Why should we leave? A dumb asshole being elected by a bunch of dumb assholes isn't reason enough for me to leave my country.

 
2013-01-23 10:16:31 AM
Also crap, my HTML skills.
 
2013-01-23 10:16:51 AM
This whole idea of revolution (and succession) disgusts me. Obama didn't steal the election... He was elected by a majority of the voters and earned the majority of the electoral votes. These "patriotic" Americans like Nugent are the real enemy (Just saying.... No real insight in that statement). However, the idea that armed insurrection is the solution because your candidate lost an election? That alone proves that Nugent and his wacko buddies aren't true Americans.

I have several buddies in the military.... and yes, the military isn't overly impressed with Obama (or Democratic candidates in general) but they support their Commander-in-Chief.

Bring it Nugent..... I hope you're smiling when some Republican-favoring Delta or Seal badasses storm your compound and put a bullet between your eyes. Should that happen? Bury him at sea in Lake Michigan so other nuts don't have a gravesite to make a shrine.

/ Michigander who likes Nugent's music but hates his radical ideas
// Yes....Michigan is full of crazy people....Most of them own guns. Show me a state that doesn't have their fair share of nutcases and radicals.
/// I sometimes wish Deer had the intelligence to stalk and shoot idiots like Nugent.
//// Yes.... I own rifles and shotguns.... Yes I hunt .... No I'm not worried about Obama taking my guns away
 
2013-01-23 10:16:51 AM
I don't think dangerous and crazy people clamoring to be armed with more and more lethal weapons is really going to help their fight against gun regulations.

It's like when you catch a kid scribbling on the wall with a permanent marker, and you take the marker away.  The kid cries, but you don't give him back the marker.  If you do, well...  then you really only have yourself to blame.
 
2013-01-23 10:17:44 AM

Lord_Baull: give me doughnuts: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?

Yes, it means "well-maintained" and "operating correctly."

Do you know what "the right of the people" means?


And which arms have been taken out of your hands?



They are working on that right now.

And raising objections after the fact is too late.
 
2013-01-23 10:18:42 AM

calm like a bomb: The Nuge doesn't go huntin'. The Nuge goes killin'. If the animal in in a pen, it ain't huntin'. But then I wouldn't expect much from a draft-dodger.


Pretty much the same as GOP "tough guy", Dick Cheney... And that old asshole can't even do that without shooting someone in the face.

Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower would be disgusted with what passes for the Republican Party today.
 
2013-01-23 10:18:49 AM

HAMMERTOE: oldfarthenry: Methinks this Wacko will be Janet Reno-ed soonishly.

This comment speaks volumes.

You see, it's not so much that the libs are "anti-gun"; it's that they are "anti-independence". They are all for guns, as long as those guns are handled by the government-approved, jack-booted "wacko" thugs they have deluded their selves that they have some marginal amount of control over, despite any and all history lessons to the contrary. '
"We live in a democracy!" is their universal cry, ignoring the fact that the Native Americans who were all but exterminated for their claim to a Democracy, lived in a "democracy" too. And ignoring that their "Democratic" government hides more from them than it reveals these days. How can you even remotely rationalize that you live in a "democracy" when you aren't even half-aware of the conditions of your existence? You are less than pawns in a game played by the rich and influential. Bodies to be thrown at their enemies in wars to protect their cash-flow and their monopoly on control. Just like the Judiciary frowns upon the subject of Jury Nullification because it lessens their absolute rule over the court, those who seek totalitarian rule by the other branches of government have got to lessen the influence of the average citizen through the ability to project force, because that's the role of government, when you distill it down to its bare essence. They always seek to ridicule, "We're not trying to totally disarm the 'gun nuts'!", implying that you've got to be crazy for suspecting that their final goal is totalitarian control. They're not stupid. And they know you're not stupid. So, their only possible resort is to question your sanity and hurl insults. They've got to get you angry so they can paint you as "out of control" and rationalize to their selves and anybody who will listen that you're better off being defenseless and at the mercy of the power-hungry. They ignore the tens of millions of responsible gun owners and focus ...


Come down off your cross. The idiot he's talking about is saying they want an armed revolt.
 
2013-01-23 10:19:00 AM
You guys are laughing at Ted now but as soon as he gets his shiat together, there's gonna be a rebellion.
 
2013-01-23 10:19:19 AM

Dr. Whoof: This man should not have weapons - he has made it clear he wants to use them to kill Americans who have done nothing more than disagree with him.


Really? He's been saying this shiat for years. He hasn't hurt or killed anybody who disagrees with him yet, because he's not mentally unbalanced. If that happens I'll gladly agree with you...but I'm pretty sure it's not going to happen. I'm not saying I agree with anything that he says, and I really hope I don't take a blow to the had and start thinking that people as fanatical as himself are correct...because then I might end up on the other side of the debate, agreeing with worthless jackasses such as yourself.
 
2013-01-23 10:19:32 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.

It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.

Try again.

Why? I was right the first time.

No, I'm afraid you were not. The phrase "bear arms" referred to formal military service. If we want to go strictly by the common definitions of the time, the 2nd Amendment should be recognized as giving the right for everyone to join the military.


So within the bill of rights, a group of amendments specifically intended to limit government power, they put in an amendment specifically declaring that the government had a right to have weapons? Just in case the double government tried to disarm them or something?
 
2013-01-23 10:20:22 AM

keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?


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2013-01-23 10:21:24 AM

grokca: You guys are laughing at Ted now but as soon as he gets his shiat together, there's gonna be a rebellion.


He lost his shiat years ago... : )
 
2013-01-23 10:22:20 AM
I never ceases to amaze me how this guy doesn't drink, or smoke, or do anything of the sort. He is intelligent and very well spoken. Yet, he is such an intollerable, paranoid jerkoff.

And, btw, he is a lousy guitar player.
 
2013-01-23 10:22:55 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: The guy is a miserable musician <b>subby</b>. Quick! Think of a Ted Nugent song! You can't, because his stuff is crap. The pinnacle of his artistic "achievement" was, if I recall correctly, a song whose lyrics include, "Whang, dang, sweet poon-tang." His music is crap


You're absolutely right about that. If you want to know who's a good player, you ask musicians. There are no musicians who respect his musicianship because he has no talent.
 
2013-01-23 10:23:07 AM
If he cared about gun rights he'd shut the fark up rather than give gun owners a bad name.

\ Is he doing anything but the occasional "Rib Fest America?"
 
2013-01-23 10:23:09 AM

david_gaithersburg: I have a silly hang up on an odd concept called freedom, and freedom from tyranny. Sorry, but I do not share your desire to be a mere subject to huge and out of control government.


So, to promote freedom, let's agree with a man who hints we may soon have to kill people who hold different political opinions! After all, freedom doesn't include the ability to have different political opinions, so, WAR TIME!

FOR FREEDOM!
 
2013-01-23 10:23:24 AM

give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.

It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.



In other words, the militia. The militia could own and use weapons equal to or better than the militia?
 
2013-01-23 10:24:25 AM
All I know of Ted is his crazy talk, "Cat Scratch Fever" and that he played at a concert (with Toby Keith) in Germany when my husband was in Iraq.

And now I know about his draft dodging ways. What a prick.
 
2013-01-23 10:24:42 AM

Holocaust Agnostic: Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.

It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.

Try again.

Why? I was right the first time.

No, I'm afraid you were not. The phrase "bear arms" referred to formal military service. If we want to go strictly by the common definitions of the time, the 2nd Amendment should be recognized as giving the right for everyone to join the military.

So within the bill of rights, a group of amendments specifically intended to limit government power, they put in an amendment specifically declaring that the government had a right to have weapons? Just in case the double government tried to disarm them or something?


No it was stating, at least in part, that the government should not be able to ban groups of citizens from the armed forces.If the Government could say that, for example, followers of a certain political party could not serve in the army, it would make it easier for the army to be used as an instrument of repression against that group.
 
2013-01-23 10:24:43 AM

tuxbabe: All aboard the crazy train............

oops, wrong musician..


The funny thing is, Ozzy sounds like a nuclear physicist when compared to Teddy Boy...
 
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