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(The Raw Story)   Ted Nugent may know a lot of things - how to play the hell out of a guitar, how to hunt with any type of weapon, how to swing from a vine wearing a loincloth - but he apparently does not understand the meaning of the word "treason"   (rawstory.com) divider line 469
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2013-01-23 09:52:12 AM  
strangeguitar

He's really not that great a guitar player.

olddeegee

Headline is wrong. He could never play guitar



Sure - I agree that he is batshiat crazy, but anyone who says can't play guitar is just ignorant....he's been on several Greatest Guitarists lists....he can definitely play a mean guitar.
 
2013-01-23 09:52:28 AM  

Great_Milenko: He must have really enjoyed his last visit from the secret service to ask for another one so soon.


He probably mentioned Al Qaeda and received a free colonoscopy.
 
2013-01-23 09:52:38 AM  
Well, by definition the Revolutionary War *was* treason and sedition against the lawful government at the time.
 
2013-01-23 09:52:49 AM  

give me doughnuts: Do you know what "the right of the people" means?


I do... It means I'm not shiatting my pants that the government is going to come and take the two firearms I do own and that background checks and mandatory firearms training (which I had to pass in order to get my F.I.D.) did not infringe my right, nor prevent me from owning and keeping said firearms... And both firearms are "well-regulated" in both senses of the term. I have no problem with that, at all.

In short, you're barking up the wrong tree with that line of attack, my friend.
 
2013-01-23 09:53:26 AM  

Deathfrogg: david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.

And this one....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

And this one too...

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

The primary difference, being the fact that those men were educated. Ted Nugent is not. He knows nothing of American History, or the reasons for the rebellion against the British Crown, nor does he understand one word of the Constitution nor does he care to. He is a slavering, ignorant self-centered reactionary with fantasies of mass murder and total war.


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Were you wearing a powdered white wig when you wrote that?
 
2013-01-23 09:54:07 AM  
A lot of people seem to be eager to defend a known pedophile like the Nuge.
 
2013-01-23 09:54:09 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: That's a big thing the revolutards can't understand - the vast majority of Americans don't agree with their definition of tyranny or oppression.

There will be no popular uprising, you're going to have to kill your friends and neighbors. This will not work out.


Given that all we've got to go on is big mouthed jackasses flapping their gums and not even any noteworthy riots or organized law breaking of any sort, one wonders how you've divined anyone's criteria of actionable tyranny. Reading chicken entrails?
 
2013-01-23 09:54:18 AM  

Thune: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?

And this is where the ignorance is because you just demonstrated that YOU don't know what "Well-Regulated" means.

Back when the Constitution was written the phrase "well-regulated" meant "in good order" or "well running".

They use to refer to clocks as "Well-regulated".

They didn't mean there were laws written by the federal government about how a clock should run.

The phrase "well-regulated" in the Constitution had NOTHING to do with written regulations by the federal or state government, as the person of today would take that phrase to mean.


And you walked into the trap.

So, if according to you, we can't use "well-regulated" because it's outdated compared to the common venacular of today, then you can't mean "militia" to mean whatever you think it means today because back then it meant something else.

Double-edged swords - how do they work?
 
2013-01-23 09:55:13 AM  
GiantRex

The primary theme in all of these acts is governance by a foreign entity and taxation without any representation in parliament.

Well one of the bigest complaints about Obama from his oposition is that he allows the UN and world opinion to hold too much sway over our actions, and the second is he is recklessly taxing and spending without enough oversight.

Surely the comparison is exagerrated and overblown in every possible way, Rather like comparing a schoolyard bully to Hitler, but it isn't completely from left field.
 
2013-01-23 09:55:27 AM  
Doesn't Ted realize that only so-called-progressives have the right to freedom of speech?
 
2013-01-23 09:56:02 AM  
Far more tame than the crap you and yours spew.

I recall your side walking down the streets with signs saying you want to kill US soldiers and Bush. But you like that.
 
2013-01-23 09:56:14 AM  

Farkage: I'm about as pro second amendment as you can get, but why does anyone listen to this a-hole?

/Mostly Democrat too. That seems to confuse people.



Because he speaks NRA, the only language some 2nd Amendment people seem to speak. I'm an Independent who likes my guns, but I won't associate with the National Retards Association, not only do they NOT represent the actual best interests of gun owners, I also don't want to be on a "list" anywhere... NRA is second only to PETA when it comes to a special interest group with no farking clue how to represent their interests effectively.
 
2013-01-23 09:56:44 AM  

keylock71: give me doughnuts: Do you know what "the right of the people" means?

I do... It means I'm not shiatting my pants that the government is going to come and take the two firearms I do own and that background checks and mandatory firearms training (which I had to pass in order to get my F.I.D.) did not infringe my right, nor prevent me from owning and keeping said firearms... And both firearms are "well-regulated" in both senses of the term. I have no problem with that, at all.

In short, you're barking up the wrong tree with that line of attack, my friend.



Actually I was quoting from the 1st and 4th Amendments, but you just keep right on jumping to the wrong conclusions.
Universal background checks on firearm transfers, and manadatory training for concealed-carry permits are a great ideas.
 
2013-01-23 09:56:46 AM  
All aboard the crazy train............

oops, wrong musician..
 
2013-01-23 09:56:48 AM  

Thune: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?

And this is where the ignorance is because you just demonstrated that YOU don't know what "Well-Regulated" means.

Back when the Constitution was written the phrase "well-regulated" meant "in good order" or "well running".

They use to refer to clocks as "Well-regulated".

They didn't mean there were laws written by the federal government about how a clock should run.

The phrase "well-regulated" in the Constitution had NOTHING to do with written regulations by the federal or state government, as the person of today would take that phrase to mean.


You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.
 
2013-01-23 09:56:48 AM  

Dr. Whoof: These people are sick, and they need to be treated by mental health professionals. Ted Nugent is the poster child for those enhanced mental health and background check rules Obama signed as an executive order. This man should not have weapons - he has made it clear he wants to use them to kill Americans who have done nothing more than disagree with him.


Bears repeating. The guy is a nutjob.

Wikipedia has other choice quotes from the nutter.
 
2013-01-23 09:56:54 AM  

david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.

And this one....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

And this one too...

[www.biography.com image 402x402]


Most people are aware of that. Here's the thing though: If they lost the war, they'd have been put to death.

Those who did not support their war likely would have supported that result. If Ted Nugent and his buddies take up arms against the US, that's what will happen to them and many in this thread would support it.

Thinking the American Revolution was necessary and proper in no way obligates me to believe that Ted Nugent's revolution is necessary and proper. Why you think it does is a mystery to me.
 
2013-01-23 09:57:06 AM  

coeyagi: Thune: keylock71: Thune: And you think Obama knows what "shall not be infringed" means?

I don't know.... Do you know what "Well-Regulated" means?

And this is where the ignorance is because you just demonstrated that YOU don't know what "Well-Regulated" means.

Back when the Constitution was written the phrase "well-regulated" meant "in good order" or "well running".

They use to refer to clocks as "Well-regulated".

They didn't mean there were laws written by the federal government about how a clock should run.

The phrase "well-regulated" in the Constitution had NOTHING to do with written regulations by the federal or state government, as the person of today would take that phrase to mean.

And you walked into the trap.

So, if according to you, we can't use "well-regulated" because it's outdated compared to the common venacular of today, then you can't mean "militia" to mean whatever you think it means today because back then it meant something else.

Double-edged swords - how do they work?


The militia was, and is, the body of the people. It has been clearly stated back then as well as recently. Feel free to look that up yourself.
 
2013-01-23 09:57:12 AM  

RevMercutio: A lot of people seem to be eager to defend a known pedophile like the Nuge.


Uh, who has defended him? There seems to be universal hatred for Nugent.
 
2013-01-23 09:57:26 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-23 09:57:44 AM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-23 09:58:02 AM  
grew up thinking Ted was cool, he was respected by the ubiquitous hunter culture in Michigan for the most part. You can't go ten steps without hearing 'Fred Bear' within a week of Nov. 15th around here. I saw him in concert 3 or 4 times growing up...whiplash bash was always a good time.
I've played guitar for a couple decades and although I never considered him one of the greats, some of his stuff is ok by me.

all that said, the shiat that has come out of this a-holes mouth in the last several years has been absolutely ridiculous, embarrassing, pants-shiattingly stoopid, Victoria Jacksonian garbage.

I'm sorry this guy was and is associated with Michigan. As a life long Michigander, I'm sorry everyone...very very sorry.

he wont go out in some fire fight, he's a coward, he's all talk. He'd like to incite others to take up arms and go to war, but he sure as hell wont be in the crowd.
He may end up getting in trouble with his mouth, but a guy like that always backs down when real shiat is happening.
 
2013-01-23 09:58:17 AM  
Terrible Ted need a good prescription for multiple mood stabilizing drugs.

/2000mg of lithium per day would be a great start.
//Nugent got out of serving his country by showing up at his draft appointment in filthy clothes and crapped pants. What a patriot.
 
2013-01-23 09:58:51 AM  

david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.

And this one....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

And this one too...

[www.biography.com image 402x402]


Are you equating Ted Nugent with Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson?
 
2013-01-23 09:58:56 AM  
KingKauff:
He's a better guitar player than "hunter". I've only been hunting for a few years and I bet I know more than he does and am a shiatton better than him. I actually hunt animals in the wild.

/ok, I sit in a stand and read/doze off/text friends, but still, I'm better than him


I'm sure you are. You even got one this year.
 
2013-01-23 09:59:17 AM  

Farkage: I'm about as pro second amendment as you can get, but why does anyone listen to this a-hole?

/Mostly Democrat too. That seems to confuse people.


You want confusion? Wear one of these to the range next time:

skreened.com
 
2013-01-23 09:59:21 AM  

Holocaust Agnostic: HotWingConspiracy: That's a big thing the revolutards can't understand - the vast majority of Americans don't agree with their definition of tyranny or oppression.

There will be no popular uprising, you're going to have to kill your friends and neighbors. This will not work out.

Given that all we've got to go on is big mouthed jackasses flapping their gums and not even any noteworthy riots or organized law breaking of any sort, one wonders how you've divined anyone's criteria of actionable tyranny.


They're happy to tell you. Even if you don't want to know. Apparently we've been under a tyrant for years now, they're just waiting for someone to start shooting I guess.
 
2013-01-23 10:00:06 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.


It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.
 
2013-01-23 10:00:08 AM  

scarmig: Well, by definition the Revolutionary War *was* treason and sedition against the lawful government at the time.


Yes it was, and without the French naval blockade, Corwallis may have reinforced his troops and won the day at Yorktown.
 
2013-01-23 10:00:32 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Lord_Baull: Nothing says patriotism like inciting an armed insurrection to oust a democratically-elected official.

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If the majority voted to ban gay marriage you would be in support of that too?

How about slavery? To bring back the days of your great grand pappy would probably be a wet dream for you.


You think that voting in slavery is the same thing as electing a president?
 
2013-01-23 10:00:40 AM  

manimal2878: RevMercutio: A lot of people seem to be eager to defend a known pedophile like the Nuge.

Uh, who has defended him? There seems to be universal hatred for Nugent.


The Romney boys think he's the best thing since sliced bread. Even Mitt likes him because he has low self esteem and likes anyone who says something good about him, or hell even someone who merely says something bad about an opponent of his.
 
2013-01-23 10:00:44 AM  
Cornwallis, rather.
 
2013-01-23 10:00:46 AM  
Ted won't be part of any revolt. That would require a spine.


photos.imageevent.com
 
2013-01-23 10:01:08 AM  

thurstonxhowell: david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.

And this one....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

And this one too...

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

Most people are aware of that. Here's the thing though: If they lost the war, they'd have been put to death.

Those who did not support their war likely would have supported that result. If Ted Nugent and his buddies take up arms against the US, that's what will happen to them and many in this thread would support it.

Thinking the American Revolution was necessary and proper in no way obligates me to believe that Ted Nugent's revolution is necessary and proper. Why you think it does is a mystery to me.


.
I have a silly hang up on an odd concept called freedom, and freedom from tyranny. Sorry, but I do not share your desire to be a mere subject to huge and out of control government.
 
2013-01-23 10:01:10 AM  

david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.

And this one....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

And this one too...

[www.biography.com image 402x402]


hmmmf, just two over-educated elitists who certainly wouldn't fit in with the 21st Century "I got common sense" Real American Patriots.
 
2013-01-23 10:01:12 AM  

give me doughnuts: Philip Francis Queeg: You might want to check on what the phrase "bear arms" meant at the time.

It meant you could own and use weapons that were equal to, or better than, those used by the most mordern army of the day.


Try again.
 
2013-01-23 10:01:13 AM  

Anderson's Pooper: Alfonso the Great: That guy is the worst thing to ever come out of Michigan.


He's sold more albums than Ford sold Edsels so I would disagree with your premise.


Perhaps. But today the Edsel is considered collectible. Ted won't be.
 
2013-01-23 10:01:32 AM  

give me doughnuts: Actually I was quoting from the 1st and 4th Amendments, but you just keep right on jumping to the wrong conclusions.
Universal background checks on firearm transfers, and manadatory training for concealed-carry permits are a great ideas.


Well, shiat. Sorry about that. Hard to tell intent from 12 point Arial sometimes.

Though, I think anyone who want to own any kind of firearm, whether it's concealed-carry or not should have to pass a training course. Seems like common sense to this gun owner.
 
2013-01-23 10:02:26 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.

And this one....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

And this one too...

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

Are you equating Ted Nugent with Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson?


No, it's just that "treason" can look vastly different depending upon where you are standing.
 
2013-01-23 10:02:54 AM  

david_gaithersburg: I have a silly hang up on an odd concept called freedom, and freedom from tyranny. Sorry, but I do not share your desire to be a mere subject to huge and out of control government.


That's not what we disagree on. Grow up.
 
2013-01-23 10:03:12 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: david_gaithersburg: Lord_Baull: Nothing says patriotism like inciting an armed insurrection to oust a democratically-elected official.

.
If the majority voted to ban gay marriage you would be in support of that too?

How about slavery? To bring back the days of your great grand pappy would probably be a wet dream for you.

You think that voting in slavery is the same thing as electing a president?


.
Please show where I said that? Now voting down the Second Amendment like they just did in NY.......
 
2013-01-23 10:03:33 AM  

david_gaithersburg: thurstonxhowell: david_gaithersburg: This person was also guilty of treason.

And this one....

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

And this one too...

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

Most people are aware of that. Here's the thing though: If they lost the war, they'd have been put to death.

Those who did not support their war likely would have supported that result. If Ted Nugent and his buddies take up arms against the US, that's what will happen to them and many in this thread would support it.

Thinking the American Revolution was necessary and proper in no way obligates me to believe that Ted Nugent's revolution is necessary and proper. Why you think it does is a mystery to me.

.
I have a silly hang up on an odd concept called freedom, and freedom from tyranny. Sorry, but I do not share your desire to be a mere subject to huge and out of control government.


So when are you going to take up arms, Patriot Hero?
 
2013-01-23 10:03:35 AM  

czei: "He added that Obama "hires, appoints and associates with communists,"

Nugent also doesn't know the definition of "communist".


Just one of the many words Ted doesn't know the meaning of. Like "Patriot" and "American".
 
2013-01-23 10:03:54 AM  

thurstonxhowell: The law enforcement agent who will eventually get to shoot Ted Nugents dickdead is the luckiest man in the world.

 
2013-01-23 10:04:19 AM  
Everyone always talks about his pants-pooping draft dodging, but people rarely mention his having himself declared the legal guardian of his 17-year-old girlfriend, when he was 30. That's pretty gross, too.
 
2013-01-23 10:05:03 AM  
Some people grow out of that pathetic grade school bullying phase. And some people, like Ted, instead fully embrace it.
 
2013-01-23 10:05:38 AM  

david_gaithersburg: [24.media.tumblr.com image 850x468]


Are you equating Ted Nugent with Peter Fonda, Dennis Hopper and Terry Southern (plus Jack Nicholson by proxy)?

DIAF
 
2013-01-23 10:06:22 AM  

keylock71: give me doughnuts: Actually I was quoting from the 1st and 4th Amendments, but you just keep right on jumping to the wrong conclusions.
Universal background checks on firearm transfers, and manadatory training for concealed-carry permits are a great ideas.

Well, shiat. Sorry about that. Hard to tell intent from 12 point Arial sometimes.

Though, I think anyone who want to own any kind of firearm, whether it's concealed-carry or not should have to pass a training course. Seems like common sense to this gun owner.


And once upon a time (adjusts onion), the NRA was all about marksmanship and gun safety courses. Hell, I went to a summer camp that had an NRA-sponsored marksmanship/safety class, and I knew a bunch of guys that did it with the BSA.
 
2013-01-23 10:06:26 AM  
FTFA: "The comment was a reference to the Battle of Concord, in which a British soldier broke a standoff and fired upon assembled American militiamen, in what later became known as "the shot heard around the world" that helped launch the Revolutionary War."

...uh, not exactly. Sure, Nugent's comment referenced the Battle of Concord, but the rest of the paragraph is bullcrap of the highest order. The problem is that no one knows who fired first. Americans at the time claimed the Brits shot first, Brits claimed Americans shot first.
 
2013-01-23 10:06:28 AM  

Alfonso the Great: That guy is the worst thing to ever come out of Michigan.


www.peoplequiz.com

It's close, but I think you're right.
 
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