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(Lifehacker)   How to avoid over-hyping everything you like. Step one: Admit that Community, Radiohead, Arrested Development, Animal Collective, and Firefly are ultimately disposable pop-culture   (lifehacker.com) divider line 70
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2013-01-23 04:21:23 PM  

Cyno01: Its been a decade and people still arent over Firefly. I think that hardly makes it disposable. I mean how often do you see petitions to bring Dark Angel or  Freakylinks back ten years after the fact. I doubt in 10 years anyone will be clamoring for them to bring back Terra Nova, but im sure there will still be Firefly cast reunions at cons.


Just an official DVD release would bring me joy. My tapes are quite weathered, and second-rate bootlegs won't cut it.
 
2013-01-23 04:37:32 PM  

Cyno01: Its been a decade and people still arent over Firefly. I think that hardly makes it disposable. I mean how often do you see petitions to bring Dark Angel or Freakylinks back ten years after the fact. I doubt in 10 years anyone will be clamoring for them to bring back Terra Nova, but im sure there will still be Firefly cast reunions at cons.


again, my comment was not about if something is actually disposable or not. More of a comment that someone somewhere will say it is disposable.

every asshole has an opinion
 
2013-01-23 04:53:10 PM  

Son of Thunder: Step two: bite me, subby.


no truer words have ever been spoken.
 
2013-01-23 06:24:24 PM  
Haven't you ever had something totally overhyped for you, and you found it shiat as a result?

Doctor Who is like that for me. Monty Python, too. Thanks for that guys.

Although I'm worried because I've been nagging a friend to watch the anime Berserk. I hope I haven't ruined it for him.
 
2013-01-23 07:04:21 PM  

DeaH: Disregarding trollmitter, this article makes a good point. Take The Artist. If I had seen the film without all the hype, I would have really enjoyed it as a nice, little gem of a film. But, because it was over-praised, the film was a little disappointing instead of completely enjoyable.

Little Miss Sunshine really wasn't very good, though.


I never understood the hype over "Little Miss Sunshine". It seemed like any other indie-type film at the time but it somehow reached the masses.

Now, the best movie I have ever seen was "The Lives of Others". In trying to convince people to see it I have to be careful not to over-hype it. It's one of those movies that if you've seen it, you love it. Otherwise you've probably never heard of it.

I would say I was a victim of over-hype when it came to "City of God", I didn't see the appeal.
 
2013-01-23 07:14:56 PM  
I'd rather watch Parks & Rec over Community
 
2013-01-23 07:24:00 PM  

Cyno01: Its been a decade and people still arent over Firefly. I think that hardly makes it disposable.


Nope, just makes those people crazy about their inability to let go.

/I've been described as "allergic to nostalgia"
 
2013-01-23 10:40:33 PM  
How to avoid being a dick

Step One: If you can't stand people on the internet who are fans of things, you shouldn't be on the internet.
 
2013-01-23 11:05:30 PM  

Stratohead: Lexx: Having watched Cowboy Bebop in 1995 (!!!) I was entirely unimpressed by Firefly.

having once driven a Camero(1986!1111!!!!) I was entirely unimpressed driving a Corvette....

having once eaten a Banana (1972!!!!) I was entirely unimpressed with a naval orange.


having once compared Apples to Oranges (1825!!!!!!111!!) I was entirely unimpressed by Pots calling Kettles Black.


Let's see the similarities: "rickety spaceship with assorted stragglers with mysterious pasts, doing odd jobs for pay on recently-settled frontier planets" is in both. Throw in blaxsploitation and jazz to cowboy bebop, substitute Joss Whedon's never-ending fetish for super-powered females for Firefly, and we have a summary.
 
2013-01-23 11:38:11 PM  

Lexx: Stratohead: Lexx: Having watched Cowboy Bebop in 1995 (!!!) I was entirely unimpressed by Firefly.

having once driven a Camero(1986!1111!!!!) I was entirely unimpressed driving a Corvette....

having once eaten a Banana (1972!!!!) I was entirely unimpressed with a naval orange.


having once compared Apples to Oranges (1825!!!!!!111!!) I was entirely unimpressed by Pots calling Kettles Black.

Let's see the similarities: "rickety spaceship with assorted stragglers with mysterious pasts, doing odd jobs for pay on recently-settled frontier planets" is in both. Throw in blaxsploitation and jazz to cowboy bebop, substitute Joss Whedon's never-ending fetish for super-powered females for Firefly, and we have a summary.


I'd drill in, but if you've missed the boat by that much, well, hell, you might as well just wait for the next boat.
 
2013-01-24 09:45:47 AM  
just ignore Lexx... everyone else did. also a fan of "Lexx" is in no position to judge any series on its merits.
 
2013-01-24 10:48:15 AM  

Stratohead: just ignore Lexx... everyone else did. also a fan of "Lexx" is in no position to judge any series on its merits.


That's my actual nickname (=Alex) used by friends. Nice try though.

What's the difference between Joss Whedon and Quentin Tarantino? The answer is "talent".
 
2013-01-24 11:38:45 AM  
I've learned that if you want to shake a metaphorical hornet's nest on Fark, just say something mean about Firefly. Works every time.
 
2013-01-24 02:32:21 PM  

Lexx: Stratohead: just ignore Lexx... everyone else did. also a fan of "Lexx" is in no position to judge any series on its merits.

That's my actual nickname (=Alex) used by friends. Nice try though.

What's the difference between Joss Whedon and Quentin Tarantino? The answer is "talent".


true... Tarantino has "talent" Whedon has talent.

but again... we are back into comparing Watermelon vs Kiwi Fruit.
 
2013-01-24 02:52:47 PM  

Stratohead: Lexx: Stratohead: just ignore Lexx... everyone else did. also a fan of "Lexx" is in no position to judge any series on its merits.

That's my actual nickname (=Alex) used by friends. Nice try though.

What's the difference between Joss Whedon and Quentin Tarantino? The answer is "talent".

true... Tarantino has "talent" Whedon has talent.

but again... we are back into comparing Watermelon vs Kiwi Fruit.


Both make highly derivative homages to their favorite cult pop culture, both are highly loved by nerds, and both riff on the same damn ideas over, and over, and over again, and both are watchable only when they have brilliant leading men (Samuel L. Jackson, Neil Patrick Harris) star in their works.

You're seriously, deeply blind if you can't find similarities here.
 
2013-01-24 02:54:18 PM  

Stratohead: Lexx: Stratohead: just ignore Lexx... everyone else did. also a fan of "Lexx" is in no position to judge any series on its merits.

That's my actual nickname (=Alex) used by friends. Nice try though.

What's the difference between Joss Whedon and Quentin Tarantino? The answer is "talent".

true... Tarantino has "talent" Whedon has talent.

but again... we are back into comparing Watermelon vs Kiwi Fruit.


Also, if you seriously think Whedon's career and output eclipses Tarantino's...well, there's no help for you.
 
2013-01-24 03:04:53 PM  
this thread now proves my point.
 
2013-01-24 03:11:29 PM  

Lexx: Stratohead: Lexx: Stratohead: just ignore Lexx... everyone else did. also a fan of "Lexx" is in no position to judge any series on its merits.

That's my actual nickname (=Alex) used by friends. Nice try though.

What's the difference between Joss Whedon and Quentin Tarantino? The answer is "talent".

true... Tarantino has "talent" Whedon has talent.

but again... we are back into comparing Watermelon vs Kiwi Fruit.

Also, if you seriously think Whedon's career and output eclipses Tarantino's...well, there's no help for you.


While I find Tarantinos work entertaining... it's in a whole entire other realm than Whedons body of work.

Whedon for example can work intricate plot threads and organically develop characters over the course of years, can actually pull of a plot twist, and can write dialogue that actually sounds natural... while Tarantino can write fun dialogue , but can't write a conversation that sounds like real people would ever speak in that fashion to save his life. let alone write a "plot twist" or handle an ensemble cast for shiat.
Both have their failures as well... Doll House was terrible (largely due to casting Eliza Dushku in a part where she has to expand her acting chops way WAY beyond her abilities as an actress)...Quentin has Death Proof...one of the most boring long winded and pointless things I've ever seen (and he couldn't even sustain the "grind house...damanged film print" facade that the Grind House double feature was supposed contain beyond the first 5 minutes of the film. Death Proof was just...garbage.
I enjoy both for their own merits... but it's still Apples and Oranges...or any other two things that would appear in the same section of the now endangered video rental aisle but are really really different at the core, and frankly ... on the surface.

maybe next you can tell me how you saw "Dark Star" in 1976(!!!) and how "E.T. The Extra Terrestrial" were the same idea, because they both dealt with things related to Space Travel.
 
2013-01-24 03:44:24 PM  

Stratohead: Lexx: Stratohead: Lexx: Stratohead: just ignore Lexx... everyone else did. also a fan of "Lexx" is in no position to judge any series on its merits.

That's my actual nickname (=Alex) used by friends. Nice try though.

What's the difference between Joss Whedon and Quentin Tarantino? The answer is "talent".

true... Tarantino has "talent" Whedon has talent.

but again... we are back into comparing Watermelon vs Kiwi Fruit.

Also, if you seriously think Whedon's career and output eclipses Tarantino's...well, there's no help for you.

While I find Tarantinos work entertaining... it's in a whole entire other realm than Whedons body of work.

Whedon for example can work intricate plot threads and organically develop characters over the course of years, can actually pull of a plot twist, and can write dialogue that actually sounds natural... while Tarantino can write fun dialogue , but can't write a conversation that sounds like real people would ever speak in that fashion to save his life. let alone write a "plot twist" or handle an ensemble cast for shiat.
Both have their failures as well... Doll House was terrible (largely due to casting Eliza Dushku in a part where she has to expand her acting chops way WAY beyond her abilities as an actress)...Quentin has Death Proof...one of the most boring long winded and pointless things I've ever seen (and he couldn't even sustain the "grind house...damanged film print" facade that the Grind House double feature was supposed contain beyond the first 5 minutes of the film. Death Proof was just...garbage.
I enjoy both for their own merits... but it's still Apples and Oranges...or any other two things that would appear in the same section of the now endangered video rental aisle but are really really different at the core, and frankly ... on the surface.

maybe next you can tell me how you saw "Dark Star" in 1976(!!!) and how "E.T. The Extra Terrestrial" were the same idea, because they both dealt with things related to Space ...


No..but I will tell you that every single criminal forensic show is basically the same. As is basically every single private law practice show. And every single cop show. And how DS9 was a cheap rip of B5 (it was). Unless a show either A: is its own genre, B: completely blows away that genre in terms of acting and direction, or C: is the only example OF its genre at the time, it's forgettable. Firefly fans refuse to forget because there just wasn't any other even semi-decent space-fiction at the time.

Notice how pop culture's begun retreading existing franchises rather than come up with yet-another-retread-of-that-genre?

Also, yes Death Proof was terrible. As was just about everything Whedon's done, with a few bright exceptions: Cabin in the Woods, Dr. Horrible, the musical episode of Buffy, and Buffy seasons 1-2.
 
2013-01-24 06:26:47 PM  

Lexx: Stratohead: Lexx: Stratohead: just ignore Lexx... everyone else did. also a fan of "Lexx" is in no position to judge any series on its merits.

That's my actual nickname (=Alex) used by friends. Nice try though.

What's the difference between Joss Whedon and Quentin Tarantino? The answer is "talent".

true... Tarantino has "talent" Whedon has talent.

but again... we are back into comparing Watermelon vs Kiwi Fruit.

Both make highly derivative homages to their favorite cult pop culture, both are highly loved by nerds, and both riff on the same damn ideas over, and over, and over again, and both are watchable only when they have brilliant leading men (Samuel L. Jackson, Neil Patrick Harris) star in their works.

You're seriously, deeply blind if you can't find similarities here.


So... Sarah Michelle Gellar was a brilliant leading man?

/maybe it's "brilliant leading man or sexy redhead" or something
//Or lesbians
///Hey, Dr. Horrible definitely has both a brilliant leading man AND a sexy lesbian
////No lesbians though.
 
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