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(MSNBC)   In a game of chicken the Democrats clearly win being the bigger chicken   (tv.msnbc.com) divider line 9
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2013-01-23 08:55:11 AM
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Well, something needs to be done about it. I saw a graph, that if I remember correctly, covered almost a 100 years worth of filibustering. It was obvious by the insane surge in the number of filibusters / cloture motions over the past few years that the tactic is being abused. Actually, I think I'll try to find that graph.
 
2013-01-23 09:12:05 AM
Harry Reid makes sweet, sweet love to the gallus gallus.
 
2013-01-23 10:08:22 AM
Protip: never play "chicken" with a Republican. They think it's a sex act.
 
2013-01-23 10:11:45 AM
I think you misunderstand how winning the game chicken works.
 
2013-01-23 10:21:06 AM
Of course; Republicans have spent four years threatening to let essential government procedures lapse and fall into disfunction unless they got their way, and have been able to extract policy concessions every single time (while still claiming all policies enacted over the same period were partisan Democratic acts). Now Democrats drew a line in the sand, that they expected Republicans to allow the government to persist as it is currently running with no concessions for that very simple thing.

Republicans have now said they are going to screw everything up unless Democrats place an offer to cut elderly entitlements (Democrats have to make the proposal; it can't be the Republicans who suggest it since they want to smear it as Democrats killing granny but they say it is what has to be on the table to make a deal) on the count of three: one, two... two and a half... two and three quarters. Ok, they'll let Democrats off with a warning for now, but if they don't do it next time they ask there will be hell to pay.

Republicans blinked, but let's talk about how this is bad news for Democrats.
 
2013-01-23 10:30:09 AM
That's what I get for not RTFA. Look, I don't think either proposed fix to the filibuster is terrible. It is really hard to justify the practice as it is used today; it needs to be available in cases of severe overreach, but not every bill that isn't about naming post offices fits as a valid use.

I believe in minority safeguards, but when they are used for the explicit purpose of damaging institutions of power (see how many filibusters, once broken, result in bills being passed unanimously) a change is needed.
 
2013-01-23 11:36:29 AM
Reid is going to package the mildest most milquetoast set of reforms to the filibuster ever.  I anticipate it being something akin to "You can still filibuster and perform secret holds but you have to pinky swear that you're not going to do it every time."
 
2013-01-23 12:28:25 PM

Elandriel: Reid is going to package the mildest most milquetoast set of reforms to the filibuster ever.  I anticipate it being something akin to "You can still filibuster and perform secret holds but you have to pinky swear that you're not going to do it every time."


Just the fact that they've pushed it back this far into the month trying to work with the Republicans on this matter speaks loud and clear that you are probably right.
 
2013-01-23 04:57:30 PM

Elandriel: Reid is going to package the mildest most milquetoast set of reforms to the filibuster ever.  I anticipate it being something akin to "You can still filibuster and perform secret holds but you have to pinky swear that you're not going to do it every time."


There never was much hope; only a fool's hope.
 
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