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(South China Morning Post)   China improves on Cloud Atlas by cutting 40 minutes off its running time   (scmp.com) divider line 25
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2013-01-23 10:40:41 AM
They're only trying to make it watchable. Any measures taken to get audiences get out of the theater faster is an improvement.
 
2013-01-23 10:48:37 AM
The movie, when asked for comment, shrugged.
 
2013-01-23 10:53:23 AM
So no clenis scenes?

DNRTFA
 
2013-01-23 11:01:12 AM
"Although the mainland version is a bit constrained, [we] fully believe in the regulator's editing standards."

Bullshiat.
 
2013-01-23 11:07:27 AM
I can't believe that film makers don't flip out over this kind of "editing".
 
2013-01-23 11:07:28 AM
If they can cut another 2 hours and 20 minutes it will be perfect!!
 
2013-01-23 11:13:32 AM
I still haven't seen it(Aussie release date is next month)but I have nearly finished the book(up to the last part now) it is a great book so far and I can't wait to see how they adapted it. I don't imagine it was easy.
Bit hard to work out my favourite part, Letters from Zedelghem probably. Also like the connecting details a lot.
 
2013-01-23 11:14:03 AM
dnrtfa. Did they remove the gay love story? SPOILER (kind of) Or Koreans and soylent green?
 
2013-01-23 11:16:41 AM
A responsible film producer would simply refuse to release it in China. That's like painting a moustache on the Mona Lisa.

But they want the $$.

I'm actually kind of curious how this plays with a Director's contract that specifies he has "final cut" authority.
 
2013-01-23 11:24:06 AM

cefm: A responsible film producer would simply refuse to release it in China. That's like painting a moustache on the Mona Lisa.

But they want the $$.

I'm actually kind of curious how this plays with a Director's contract that specifies he has "final cut" authority.


I'm imagining they went to the Director and told him his contract is holding up selling the movie to a country with one billion potential moviegoers, and that the film bombed hard in the Free World.

And that contract was mutually 'disappeared'.
 
2013-01-23 11:25:02 AM
Fark you, China. Don't show the thing if you're going to fark with it. You're not George Lucas and that isn't Star Wars.

Anyway, no one in America understood the film, I doubt the Chinamen will get it, with or without the sex.
 
2013-01-23 11:38:18 AM

Millennium: The movie, when asked for comment, shrugged.


Cloud doesn't shrug; he didn't have shoulder joints because of the PS1's limitations.
 
2013-01-23 11:38:22 AM

Mugato: no one in America understood the film


oh come on. It wasn't hard to understand at all. No one in America wanted to see it is more like it. It was also advertised quite poorly.

/liked the movie, and everyone I know who watched it like it
 
2013-01-23 11:52:44 AM

thecpt: Mugato: no one in America understood the film

oh come on. It wasn't hard to understand at all. No one in America wanted to see it is more like it. It was also advertised quite poorly.

/liked the movie, and everyone I know who watched it like it


It improved on the book in some ways. The sequencing was a little bit more functional than the nested story idea in the book (you stayed more engaged with the characters), and the relative optimism of the 'final' story (humanity moves to another planet instead of slowly dying out) was a little bit more engaging I thought. It also made the mountaintop scene a lot better.
 
2013-01-23 11:55:16 AM

Actor_au: I still haven't seen it(Aussie release date is next month)but I have nearly finished the book(up to the last part now) it is a great book so far and I can't wait to see how they adapted it. I don't imagine it was easy.
Bit hard to work out my favourite part, Letters from Zedelghem probably. Also like the connecting details a lot.


I read the book at the end of the year... I was impressed and yet not impressed. I liked the idea, and liked trying to figure out the link between the stories when it wasn't obvious early on, but at the same time it seemed kind of poorly thought out. Sometimes the time sequences didn't make sense as much as they seemed arbitrarily thrown in. Also, most times when you try and create your own patois, it comes out as forced and confusing. Anthony Burgess did it right in A Clockwork Orange, but Cloud Atlas' story set in Hawaii, for one example, caused you to spend half of the story figuring out what certain slang terms were supposed to be, then memorizing those... Interesting book, neat idea, but not an instant literary classic, IMHO. I AM interested in the film version, but I will wait until it's on RedBox, or shows up on HBO probably.
 
2013-01-23 12:10:43 PM

Mikey1969: Actor_au: I still haven't seen it(Aussie release date is next month)but I have nearly finished the book(up to the last part now) it is a great book so far and I can't wait to see how they adapted it. I don't imagine it was easy.
Bit hard to work out my favourite part, Letters from Zedelghem probably. Also like the connecting details a lot.

I read the book at the end of the year... I was impressed and yet not impressed. I liked the idea, and liked trying to figure out the link between the stories when it wasn't obvious early on, but at the same time it seemed kind of poorly thought out. Sometimes the time sequences didn't make sense as much as they seemed arbitrarily thrown in. Also, most times when you try and create your own patois, it comes out as forced and confusing. Anthony Burgess did it right in A Clockwork Orange, but Cloud Atlas' story set in Hawaii, for one example, caused you to spend half of the story figuring out what certain slang terms were supposed to be, then memorizing those... Interesting book, neat idea, but not an instant literary classic, IMHO. I AM interested in the film version, but I will wait until it's on RedBox, or shows up on HBO probably.


The problem I had with the two future bits was the language, mostly because here and there the writer slupped up like leaving the e on words that started with ex- despite going to great length to avoid it(I noticed it once) and some inconsistency in spelling and grammar in the Slooshes Crossing bit. Must have been a nightmare to edit those bits.
Still didn't take me out of the book much. I liked the idea of the symphony, the sad love stories(Eva and Frobisher, Sixsmith and Frobisher, Somni and Hae-joo) the escape from the old folks home and ensuing pub fight was a rolicking adventure. A lot of the book was people running away now I think about it.
 
2013-01-23 12:19:22 PM
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2013-01-23 02:51:37 PM

cefm: A responsible film producer would simply refuse to release it in China. That's like painting a moustache on the Mona Lisa.

But they want the $$.

I'm actually kind of curious how this plays with a Director's contract that specifies he has "final cut" authority.


The full version will be on the black market if it's not already. Might as well make whatevery money they can, since they won't be getting it from either the Chinese or larger Asian home video markets.
 
2013-01-23 02:58:40 PM

Actor_au: The problem I had with the two future bits was the language


Yeah, to me, it was too clunky, trying to figure out what words were what. Otherwise, I liked the storyline(s) overall...
 
2013-01-23 05:23:06 PM

cefm: A responsible film producer would simply refuse to release it in China. That's like painting a moustache on the Mona Lisa.

But they want the $$.

I'm actually kind of curious how this plays with a Director's contract that specifies he has "final cut" authority.


A director may or may not have the artistic integrity to not allow a movie to be released somewhere if it's going to get butchered. A producer/studio suit however wants to get paid.
 
2013-01-23 06:45:30 PM
What the Chinese are censoring is the role the northeastern Asian culture has to do with the apocalyptic events alluded to in the book / film. By removing these scenes they're effectively shifting the responsibility for the apocalypse from humanity as a whole to the Western / Euro-American culture. The article cites homosexual events in the movie and the gore / violence as to the reason for cutting 40 minutes--there is not nearly that much homoeroticism or violence in the movie. (But the gore in An Orison of Sonmi-451 happens in Asia / Korea so it's convenient for them to say "gore" was cut and not admit to censorship of a more political nature.)

I'd be interested to see their version just to see effect of the cuts on the film's message.

Book was much better--film was VERY different. Glad I read the book first or, as some have said, I would've been lost during the events of Sloosha's Crossin' an' Ev'rythin' After.

/Is the best book I've read in the last decade. Film: meh, beautiful images, but otherwise 7/10.
 
2013-01-23 10:13:33 PM
If they really wanted to improve on it, they should have banned it outright.

/movie is damn near unwatchable.
 
2013-01-24 12:11:03 AM
fark all y'all. I liked it
 
2013-01-24 04:00:28 AM
Cloud Atlas is like trying to converse with a transsexual that hasn't quite made it to the halfway point in their gender reassignment. You hear what they're saying and you like/have interest in the message... yet you can't honestly shut out the confusing physicality, the wild pink dreadlocks, the strain in their intonation, as they try to sound like something they physically aren't. God bless her for making the film, there were some really beautiful moments... but god damn. There was a lot of ham fisted dialogue and poor choices made, particularly in recycling the actors, that I would say is directly attributable to Lana Wachowski.

Cutting 40 minutes isn't going to change a thing.
 
2013-01-24 10:22:09 PM

Mugato: cefm: A responsible film producer would simply refuse to release it in China. That's like painting a moustache on the Mona Lisa.

But they want the $$.

I'm actually kind of curious how this plays with a Director's contract that specifies he has "final cut" authority.

A director may or may not have the artistic integrity to not allow a movie to be released somewhere if it's going to get butchered. A producer/studio suit however wants to get paid.


Well, this explains it, from TFA:

Cloud Atlas opened to mostly negative reviews and barely managed to put a dent in the US box office. According to theDongfang Daily, the US$100 million production must earn at least 1 billion yuan (US$160 million) to recoup huge losses incurred globally.

In other words, this movie was such a colossal stinkbomb that they must get it released in China, and thus must accept whatever cuts the Chinese authorities want.
 
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