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(Some Guy)   After updating your VHS tapes to DVD and then to Blu-ray, you can look forward to upgrading to Ultra-High Definition in another 3-4 years   (desktopreview.com) divider line 116
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2013-01-23 08:13:19 PM
There is a lot of FUD and misinformation in this thread.

First off, resolution is really all about perceived resolution quality. 1080p looks as good at 20' as DVD does at 10' assuming the same size screen.

Second, all 4K/UHD adds is the ability to fill more of your vision at the same sharpness. Right now a BluRay is at maximum detail and sharpness when it takes up 32 degrees of your vision horizontally. That could be a 30" screen at 4', a 60" screen at 8', or 120" screen at 16'. They will look about the same. UHD/4K will allow you to experience the same quality, but occupy 64 degrees of your field of vision doing it. It can provide a true theater experience if you sit close.
 
2013-01-23 08:19:40 PM

jimb213: In the home though, 1080p is more than enough for almost everyone. The human eye can't even discern the full difference between 720p and 1080p unless you're unreasonably close or have an unreasonably large TV.


If you go by calculators for these things, the viewing distance to have a 16:9 screen occupy 30 degrees of your view is always just a smidge beyond the distance that 20/20 vision can fully resolve 1920x1080. (Example: with a 50-inch screen, you have a 30-degree viewing angle from 6.8 feet, and the distance beyond which a 50-inch 1080i screen is sharper than your vision is 6.5 feet.)
 
2013-01-23 09:01:26 PM
Skipped blu-ray. Maybe next format.
 
2013-01-23 09:13:18 PM
All digital. Streamed is good, downloaded is good too.

I see no reason to buy any type of physical media format.
 
2013-01-23 09:23:45 PM

Nem Wan: jimb213: In the home though, 1080p is more than enough for almost everyone. The human eye can't even discern the full difference between 720p and 1080p unless you're unreasonably close or have an unreasonably large TV.

If you go by calculators for these things, the viewing distance to have a 16:9 screen occupy 30 degrees of your view is always just a smidge beyond the distance that 20/20 vision can fully resolve 1920x1080. (Example: with a 50-inch screen, you have a 30-degree viewing angle from 6.8 feet, and the distance beyond which a 50-inch 1080i screen is sharper than your vision is 6.5 feet.)


Yep, and I find that to be totally fine for most viewing. Now if you want a more immersive experience (45+ degrees) you will want 4K to also enjoy the same pixel-free quality.

There is also something to be said about being able to buy a copy of a movie that is master-quality in both audio and video. It literally won't ever get any better. So you could safely buy your collection at 4K and never need to upgrade again (unless you want 3D or bonus features). There may be higher resolution video shot in the future, but then you have to extend the viewing angle out past 65 degrees to see that detail - which starts getting uncomfortable. For most movie theaters, 1/3 of the way back is around 50 degrees - which for me is the sweet-spot.
 
2013-01-23 09:30:50 PM

Mugato: What I still don't get about downloading movies is where are the extras? Like interactive menus, making of documentaries, commentaries, things like that. I guess most people don't care about that stuff but film geeks do.


google --- "downloade movie name" + "making of" +documetary +"film geek shiat"
 
2013-01-23 09:32:01 PM
Know how I know who didn't read the article? Everyone arguing for streaming. From the article:

"The average household has 6 megabits of bandwidth. Blu-ray is 48 megabits for its stream [off the disc in the player], and that's half of what 4k video would require. It's impractical to believe you will be able stream that kind of content any time soon," he said.
 
2013-01-24 12:08:20 AM

FirstNationalBastard: MrEricSir: Unless your home has infinite space, filling it with plastic discs isn't desirable.

Streaming or GTFO.

fark streaming.

Give me downloads... DRM-Free downloads I can store wherever I please.


Downloads have to be stored. They have to be cataloged. They have to be backed up. You've gotta have a machine to serve them. You've gotta set all that shiat up, which, unless you get damn lucky, are willing to simply buy finished solutions at a premium, or don't mind putting up with a fairly miserable and unfriendly-to-non-geeks system is guaranteed to be a pain in the ass.

I'm slowly getting sick of keeping up with it all. Digital baggage is getting as bad as the physical kind. I've begun to weigh all that time, effort, and money (mostly time and effort) against streaming and maybe just ordering shiat from the farking library sometimes, and beginning to think I've suckered myself in to wast a whole fark-ton of my time for very, very little benefit.

Popping in a disc from a small collection, paying for Netflix or the occasional Redbox flick, and hitting the library on the way home from work are pretty minor inconveniences compared with the relief of never worrying about that crap ever again.

/ Seriously considering ditching modern gaming, too, and spending the next decade or so just catching up on classics that I missed the first time around.
// The tech rat race can fark off.
/// Oh god, am I becoming a hipster?
/\ Or just old...
 
2013-01-24 01:00:52 AM
I can't wait for the Digitally Remastered from original VHS edition of "Taped Karate Match."
 
2013-01-24 03:08:39 AM
I replaced my VHS with DVD's over the years, but I have no plans to upgrade to Blu-ray. I'm simply not that picky about the picture quality. When I buy a new DVD now, if I can get it in Blu-ray for the same price or a buck or two more, I'll buy it, other wise I just get the regular DVD. Of the 1000 or so DVD's I have, I only have a handful of Blu-ray.
 
2013-01-24 09:30:56 AM

fallingcow: FirstNationalBastard: MrEricSir: Unless your home has infinite space, filling it with plastic discs isn't desirable.

Streaming or GTFO.

fark streaming.

Give me downloads... DRM-Free downloads I can store wherever I please.

Downloads have to be stored. They have to be cataloged. They have to be backed up. You've gotta have a machine to serve them. You've gotta set all that shiat up, which, unless you get damn lucky, are willing to simply buy finished solutions at a premium, or don't mind putting up with a fairly miserable and unfriendly-to-non-geeks system is guaranteed to be a pain in the ass.

I'm slowly getting sick of keeping up with it all. Digital baggage is getting as bad as the physical kind. I've begun to weigh all that time, effort, and money (mostly time and effort) against streaming and maybe just ordering shiat from the farking library sometimes, and beginning to think I've suckered myself in to wast a whole fark-ton of my time for very, very little benefit.

Popping in a disc from a small collection, paying for Netflix or the occasional Redbox flick, and hitting the library on the way home from work are pretty minor inconveniences compared with the relief of never worrying about that crap ever again.

/ Seriously considering ditching modern gaming, too, and spending the next decade or so just catching up on classics that I missed the first time around.
// The tech rat race can fark off.
/// Oh god, am I becoming a hipster?
/\ Or just old...


hmm..

My system is a >32TB (including backups)... I download from the sites that I buy my movies and TV shows from, I get the meta-data for them, and put them in a movies folder and Media Browser (patch for Media Center) is configured properly, so the software does everything else.

I fail to see where this impossible hardship is for you...

Advantages: no delays, no need to worry about bandwidth or servers going doing, nice clean library (with multiple drive boxes), etc. Can rewatch the favourite stuff... I can watch something one day, someone else can watch it another, and n waste in bandwidth or such... I know what the quality is, can transfer to portable devices, etc.

Considering that the cost of my system was about a year's worth of when I used to have satellite.. might seem expensive at first, but 2-3 years later... it easily paid for itself.

And then considering that I have about 2 thousand DVD (that I've ripped to my system) that are on shelves in my office, which while looks kinda nice, most have not been touched in years, since the system is up... once in a blue-moon one of the kids will grab one to watch in their bedrooms, but overall, that doesn't happen often. (the kids inherited the old tube TVs and the DVD players)
 
2013-01-24 12:04:25 PM

UsikFark: I can't wait for the Digitally Remastered from original VHS edition of "Taped Karate Match."


If you're bored sometime, go to a torrent site like the pirate bay and look up "VHS" in the video section. Once you get past probably a bunch of copies of that recent horror movie, there's some pretty funny gems buried down there. 80s workout tapes, kung fu training materials, random merchandise tapes and obscure film rips. It's like the digital equivalent of grandma's yard sale.
 
2013-01-24 12:48:06 PM

Electromax: grandma's yard sale


I don't want to see that porno, no matter what the format. You're sick, man.
 
2013-01-24 02:33:43 PM

illegal.tender: NewWorldDan: I ripped all my DVDs to MP4 and watch them over the network. Blu-ray might be better, but not enough for me to care. And certainly not enough to pay an extra $7 per disc.

This.

Added bonus: not having to wade through bullshiat "preview of upcoming attractions", FBI warnings, dumbass menu flourishes, and other retarded crap the entertainment industry tries to shove down our throats.


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2013-01-24 08:56:40 PM

MrEricSir: Unless your home has infinite space, filling it with plastic discs isn't desirable.

Streaming or GTFO.


Streaming is great and all, but it's shiat compared to a blu-ray in visual quality and until we can reliable stream very high data rates it will most likely stay that way.
 
2013-01-25 09:16:18 AM

AgentKGB: illegal.tender: NewWorldDan: I ripped all my DVDs to MP4 and watch them over the network. Blu-ray might be better, but not enough for me to care. And certainly not enough to pay an extra $7 per disc.

This.

Added bonus: not having to wade through bullshiat "preview of upcoming attractions", FBI warnings, dumbass menu flourishes, and other retarded crap the entertainment industry tries to shove down our throats.

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All of that is skippable with Blu Ray. Just sayin.
 
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