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(Daily Mail)   US: Let's make planes invisible to radar to sneak up on our enemies. China: Well we have a cheaper alternative, we make radar think it's a passenger liner which no one suspects before it launches the missile   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 21
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2013-01-23 04:07:05 AM
3 votes:
"Sir, we just picked up a flight of supersonic 707's. Should we raise the alarm?"

"No, everything seems to be in order."

Conversations that will never happen....
2013-01-23 05:00:46 AM
2 votes:
The crew of the USS Vincennes say hi
2013-01-23 11:05:34 AM
1 votes:

BgJonson79: Radioactive Ass: TV's Vinnie: During the war in Vietnam, B-52s used to pack tiny "Quail" drones that gave off an EM signature that looked like a flight of B-52s on Soviet tech radar systems. A clever way to freak out Charlie's early warning system and send MIGs & SAMS off on a wild goose chase.

That's a countermeasure not unlike chaff or flares. The difference is that they know (or should know) that there's a threat just not where it is exactly. What TFA is talking about is more akin to painting a tank to look like a ambulance, which (as mentioned above) is 100% against the Geneva Conventions.

Is China a signatory to the Conventions?


Not the latest one, Protocol III. But that just relates to recognition of emblems of medical and religious (non-combat) personnel. For all the important stuff: yes they are.
2013-01-23 11:01:14 AM
1 votes:
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Inbound woman, Mach 2 at 25,000 feet.
2013-01-23 09:33:53 AM
1 votes:

PIP_the_TROLL:
Yeah, you've got the missile that can shoot from a bajillion miles away - what makes you think the target is still going to be there in this day and age?


I'm going to guess because most of the guys we'd be shooting at are still using Soviet era tech. The problem with your post is that the US and our Allies are really the only ones developing the advanced counter measures to counter our own offensive capabilities and we aren't selling that to our enemies.
2013-01-23 08:24:44 AM
1 votes:
Not impressed. I'm fairly sure "make military asset look like something else" has been in the playbook for a long time.
2013-01-23 08:15:56 AM
1 votes:
Headline: US: Let's make planes invisible to radar to sneak up on our enemies. China: Well we have a cheaper alternative, we make radar think it's a passenger liner which no one suspects before it launches the missile

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I have an even cheaper alternative: use passenger liners. The weapon will have the added benefit of inducing the enemy to incur trillions of dollars of additional costs for little gain in the aftermath.
2013-01-23 08:10:14 AM
1 votes:

ib_thinkin: MrEricSir: They've finally developed the technology to make 9/11 conspiracy theorists happy.

As soon as they developed time travel, it will all make made sense. You'll see remember?.


Will fix that for you.
/not enough coffee
2013-01-23 07:15:43 AM
1 votes:
Last time I checked modern fighter pilots weren't using visual confirmation before launching on a target, you know since most of the time they engage long before they can actually see the target. All that dog fighting you saw in top gun only happens if things get seriously messed up during a major engagement. This is all doubly true if there is an AWACS in the area.
2013-01-23 06:59:18 AM
1 votes:
Not useful for an actual fighter or bomber but excellent for decoys that look like fighters or bombers.
2013-01-23 05:58:20 AM
1 votes:
hmm, China has new technology. Perhaps WE can help pay for THIER leader's reelection campaign and they will give it to us.

/ worked for them.
2013-01-23 05:56:25 AM
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: During the war in Vietnam, B-52s used to pack tiny "Quail" drones that gave off an EM signature that looked like a flight of B-52s on Soviet tech radar systems. A clever way to freak out Charlie's early warning system and send MIGs & SAMS off on a wild goose chase.


That's a countermeasure not unlike chaff or flares. The difference is that they know (or should know) that there's a threat just not where it is exactly. What TFA is talking about is more akin to painting a tank to look like a ambulance, which (as mentioned above) is 100% against the Geneva Conventions.
2013-01-23 05:03:56 AM
1 votes:
Just like fighting while drunk: aim for the one in the middle.
2013-01-23 04:27:55 AM
1 votes:

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Why not just make the plane appear to be about two wingspans to the left of where it really is? That way heat-seeking missiles just hit the empty air.


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2013-01-23 04:15:27 AM
1 votes:

knbber2: RTFA subby, it is a visual cloak, says nothing about radar.  BTW, you don't need to see an aircraft to shoot it down, and there are multiple methods of identifying whether the aircraft is friend or foe.


IFF, guessing, assuming everyone is a target, targeting Euro planes.

These are all accepted strategies.
2013-01-23 04:15:14 AM
1 votes:
Because passenger liners have never been used as weapons before.
2013-01-23 04:05:27 AM
1 votes:
They've finally developed the technology to make 9/11 conspiracy theorists happy.
2013-01-23 02:53:12 AM
1 votes:
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2013-01-23 01:32:22 AM
1 votes:
This is a terrible idea. This would provide next to zero advantage and it would encourage hostile nations to shoot down commercial aircraft (which has already happened way too often).

I cannot express how dumb this is. Next up.... Army vehicles disguised as Red Cross trucks!
2013-01-23 01:11:26 AM
1 votes:

knbber2: RTFA subby, it is a visual cloak, says nothing about radar.


Fark the military application. This is a key part of holodeck technology. SELL THAT SHIAT.
2013-01-22 10:37:06 PM
1 votes:
Thanks for telling us what to look for, Seaman Jones.
 
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