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(Daily Mail)   Fourth tier Bradford City, with a team salary of only £7,500, stuns premier league opponent Aston Villa enroute to the Cup final at Wembley   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2013-01-22 09:24:34 PM  
Seriously, what would have been the pre-Cup odds on them winning the whole thing? I can't believe they held on against AV to take the aggregate.
 
2013-01-22 09:59:55 PM  
Chim chim-in-ey, chim chim-in-ey
Chim chim cher-oo
We hate the bastards in claret and blue
/innit?
 
2013-01-22 10:02:20 PM  
So this would be like if there was a massive baseball tourney that had the MLB teams and their minor league affiliates all playing on the same level and the short-season A team just knocked off a MLB club, right?
 
2013-01-22 10:02:56 PM  

GAT_00: So this would be like if there was a massive baseball tourney that had the MLB teams and their minor league affiliates all playing on the same level and the short-season A team just knocked off a MLB club, right?


Yes.

Happens in the cup about once every ten years or so.
 
2013-01-22 10:27:15 PM  
To be fair AV have mostly been getting beaten like rented mules in the EPL. So it's more like the best single A team beating last year's Houston Astros.
 
2013-01-22 11:12:06 PM  

Tigger: GAT_00: So this would be like if there was a massive baseball tourney that had the MLB teams and their minor league affiliates all playing on the same level and the short-season A team just knocked off a MLB club, right?

Yes.

Happens in the cup about once every ten years or so.


So I went back and looked at the tournament and one wild thing for their run. They had to win their first match in OT just to make it out of round 1 in the tournament.
 
2013-01-23 12:47:41 AM  
Neat.
 
2013-01-23 02:36:31 AM  
Ok I know jack about this league and world soccer in general. But any team that can go to a final anything in a professional league with a payroll of under $8000 has got to be a pretty big underdog.
 
2013-01-23 05:47:16 AM  

Tellingthem: Ok I know jack about this league and world soccer in general. But any team that can go to a final anything in a professional league with a payroll of under $8000 has got to be a pretty big underdog.


Oh, it's massive. England has a promotion/relegation system, so good teams move up and poor teams move down. So for instance, three teams in the Premier League (England's top-flight division) were promoted up from the Championship, and the Premier Leagues bottom three teams last year were sent down.

Bradford City is in League Two, which is behind League One, The Championship and The Premier League, and they're not even challenging for the title in their own league. They're in 10th place of 24 teams, behind luminaries like Port Vale and Gillingham. But they've now knocked off three top-flight teams. And yeah, doing it with that payroll is astonishing.
 
2013-01-23 05:52:29 AM  
One payroll note: Arsenal is considered pretty frugal in the Premier League, and they've got benchwarmers that make £10k per week and haven't played this year.
 
2013-01-23 06:21:26 AM  
If they make it to the Europa Cup that would be an embarrassment for England. Cool story though.
 
2013-01-23 06:22:30 AM  

TheManofPA: Seriously, what would have been the pre-Cup odds on them winning the whole thing? I can't believe they held on against AV to take the aggregate.


Before the tournament started, they were 1500/1.

They're currently 11/2 (although that will change depending on who wins the other semi tonight).
 
2013-01-23 06:24:00 AM  
I think the achievement is also stronger when you consider that, for all that the likes of Wenger and Fegie biatch about fixture congestion, Bradford have played more games than any other club this season - and they've hardly got a squad of 25-30 quality players that they can keep rotating.
 
2013-01-23 06:27:53 AM  
Their salary isn't £7500, that was the cost of assembling the team. that money was used to buy the goal scorer, who was working in a supermarket when they bought him. They announced that they over spent on wages this year by £600,000
In context, some premier league players could cover that overspend with 6 weeks of wages and it would cost Ashley Cole 4% of his (rumored) weekly wage to buy the entire team

massive achievement,regardless of which sport you follow

/Bradford fan
 
2013-01-23 06:58:08 AM  

Tigger: GAT_00: So this would be like if there was a massive baseball tourney that had the MLB teams and their minor league affiliates all playing on the same level and the short-season A team just knocked off a MLB club, right?

Yes.

Happens in the cup about once every ten years or so.


Seems to happen every couple of years - twice to Liverpool (not counting the scare a few years back where they trailed 2-0 to an amateur club before remembering how to play and subsequently crushing them 5-2) since 2008
 
2013-01-23 08:26:34 AM  
i.dailymail.co.uk
/BRAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNSSSSS!
 
2013-01-23 08:28:55 AM  
I miss Carters toy shop.

/obscure?
 
2013-01-23 08:58:52 AM  
and this is why it's so fantastic that all american sports championships are decided by large tournaments. bradford city is clear one of the best two teams in england! they proved it on the field!
 
2013-01-23 09:08:29 AM  
I don't know whether or not to root for Swansea today because I want to see da Swans in Europe, or see Chelsea win to see if there's the chance that Bradford will pull off the biggest giant killing in modern history.
 
2013-01-23 09:09:22 AM  

vossiewulf: To be fair AV have mostly been getting beaten like rented mules in the EPL. So it's more like the best single A team beating last year's Houston Astros.


I am pretty sure the Dynamo could cross the street and beat the Astros.
 
2013-01-23 09:26:46 AM  
Best part about this win - people are already forgetting about Bradford previously stunning Arsenal!

/Going to go cry now.
//Fark You, Chamakh
 
2013-01-23 09:26:54 AM  

Tigger: GAT_00: So this would be like if there was a massive baseball tourney that had the MLB teams and their minor league affiliates all playing on the same level and the short-season A team just knocked off a MLB club, right?

Yes.

Happens in the cup about once every ten years or so.


Not even, League 2 (where Bradford plies their trade) is a fourth-tier league. Meaning there are three unique, better, leagues above them: Premiership --> Championship --> League 1 --> League 2. And they already beat Arsenal, Wigan, and Villa, This would be like a college team beating threeMLB teams on their way to the Finals.

This hasn't happened in 50 years, and even then, not all of the top teams were playing in the tournament so it wasn't as comparably difficult to achieve. This is one of the best sports stories of the year.
 
2013-01-23 09:39:15 AM  

GAT_00: So this would be like if there was a massive baseball tourney that had the MLB teams and their minor league affiliates all playing on the same level and the short-season A team just knocked off a MLB club, right?

 
2013-01-23 09:41:10 AM  

tricycleracer: GAT_00: So this would be like if there was a massive baseball tourney that had the MLB teams and their minor league affiliates all playing on the same level and the short-season A team just knocked off a MLB club, right?


Dammit.  Lost the image.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-23 09:42:52 AM  
Matt Duke (Bradford keeper) DOES NOT suck.
 
2013-01-23 10:12:51 AM  
This is actually still one of my favorite matches to watch.

Cal FC 1 - Portland Timbers 0

I remember coming home from some after work beers and figuring I'd have one more and check out how bad Portland was being Eric Wynalda's traveling eff-MLS show and it was tied at halftime, so I told myself I'd stay up and watch until the next goal. The second half was pure comedy and extra time was basically the funniest thing I'd seen in sports. Cal FC definitely played with heart, but Portland was just comically, laughably inept. I'd never seen a team try so hard and fail so completely. That matchday thread on BigSoccer was the stuff of legends. I've still got the whole match on my computer. I may need to pop it in for a watch this weekend. Just awesome stuff all around.

I really hope Bradford City wins it all. I hope they play Chelsea and grind out a comically awesome result.
 
2013-01-23 10:24:08 AM  
Their salary isn't 7,500 pounds. They are referring to how Bradford assembled their current roster, not how much they are paid. They purchased one player from another club for a fee of 7,500 and added everyone else on "free transfers" (true free agents) or as academy/youth players. Subtard fail.
 
2013-01-23 10:31:45 AM  

the man with the screaming brain: Their salary isn't £7500, that was the cost of assembling the team. that money was used to buy the goal scorer, who was working in a supermarket when they bought him. They announced that they over spent on wages this year by £600,000
In context, some premier league players could cover that overspend with 6 weeks of wages and it would cost Ashley Cole 4% of his (rumored) weekly wage to buy the entire team

massive achievement,regardless of which sport you follow

/Bradford fan


Damn. I read through once, was annoyed everyone missed this, skimmed through again after I posted and see that you beat me to the punch. Congrats on the victory.
 
2013-01-23 10:33:56 AM  
It was a nice run for the minnows, but in the end Bradford were just too strong for them over two legs.
 
2013-01-23 10:37:41 AM  
This is an a amazing achievement. The League Cup is a quirky competition.

To help clarify this in college basketball terms... imagine if the NIT was a separate tournament from the regular 64 bracket. And everyone was invited to the NIT. Well some teams like Duke, Kentucky, wouldn't take it as a serious, because, well its the NIT. But smaller schools might get the chance to show up a big boy program.

But now a small market team gets a shot to play in Wembley. Whether it's Chelsea or Swansea, it's still an amazing and unique chance that may only come along once in a lifetime.
 
2013-01-23 10:54:12 AM  

Vegan T-Rex: Their salary isn't 7,500 pounds. They are referring to how Bradford assembled their current roster, not how much they are paid. They purchased one player from another club for a fee of 7,500 and added everyone else on "free transfers" (true free agents) or as academy/youth players. Subtard fail.


Their total team salary per week is 23,500 pounds, with is 1/10 of what Carlos Tevez makes per week.
 
2013-01-23 11:09:32 AM  

carnifex2005: Vegan T-Rex: Their salary isn't 7,500 pounds. They are referring to how Bradford assembled their current roster, not how much they are paid. They purchased one player from another club for a fee of 7,500 and added everyone else on "free transfers" (true free agents) or as academy/youth players. Subtard fail.

Their total team salary per week is 23,500 pounds, with is 1/10 of what Carlos Tevez makes per week.


That's a weird way of agreeing with me.

/I missed the whole "if you don't like someone's facts, agree with them, but add another element that makes it look like they were wrong" debate class in school.
 
2013-01-23 11:10:10 AM  
This is why the FA Cup is awesome. It's like minor league baseball teams being allowed to play MLB teams, but with a far better chance of going all the way. FA Cup games are much more exciting because of that. It doesn't happen very often, but the possibility always exists. Compare that to any of our pro sports!
 
2013-01-23 11:12:05 AM  

carnifex2005: Vegan T-Rex: Their salary isn't 7,500 pounds. They are referring to how Bradford assembled their current roster, not how much they are paid. They purchased one player from another club for a fee of 7,500 and added everyone else on "free transfers" (true free agents) or as academy/youth players. Subtard fail.

Their total team salary per week is 23,500 pounds, which is 1/10 of what Carlos Tevez makes per week.



Yes, but you're forgetting to account for his 'personal driver' fees, not to mention his tutor.

/"Constabulary - con-sta-bu-la-ry - constabulary."
 
2013-01-23 11:12:42 AM  

the man with the screaming brain: Their salary isn't £7500, that was the cost of assembling the team. that money was used to buy the goal scorer, who was working in a supermarket when they bought him.


www.biography.com

Approves!
 
2013-01-23 11:13:29 AM  

Kell Hound: This is why the FA Cup is awesome. It's like minor league baseball teams being allowed to play MLB teams, but with a far better chance of going all the way. FA Cup games are much more exciting because of that. It doesn't happen very often, but the possibility always exists. Compare that to any of our pro sports!


Don't we have the US Open Cup in MLS that's the same exact thing?
 
2013-01-23 11:13:46 AM  

Vegan T-Rex: carnifex2005: Vegan T-Rex: Their salary isn't 7,500 pounds. They are referring to how Bradford assembled their current roster, not how much they are paid. They purchased one player from another club for a fee of 7,500 and added everyone else on "free transfers" (true free agents) or as academy/youth players. Subtard fail.

Their total team salary per week is 23,500 pounds, with is 1/10 of what Carlos Tevez makes per week.

That's a weird way of agreeing with me.

/I missed the whole "if you don't like someone's facts, agree with them, but add another element that makes it look like they were wrong" debate class in school.


Yeah, for being a passive aggressive jackass. I'm just stating a nice fact. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
 
2013-01-23 11:15:38 AM  

MattyFridays: Kell Hound: This is why the FA Cup is awesome. It's like minor league baseball teams being allowed to play MLB teams, but with a far better chance of going all the way. FA Cup games are much more exciting because of that. It doesn't happen very often, but the possibility always exists. Compare that to any of our pro sports!

Don't we have the US Open Cup in MLS that's the same exact thing?


The US Open Cup (second oldest soccer cup competition in the world by the way) would be more equivalent to the FA Cup in England. There isn't an equivalent to the League Cup in the US.
 
2013-01-23 11:20:31 AM  

carnifex2005: Vegan T-Rex: carnifex2005: Vegan T-Rex: Their salary isn't 7,500 pounds. They are referring to how Bradford assembled their current roster, not how much they are paid. They purchased one player from another club for a fee of 7,500 and added everyone else on "free transfers" (true free agents) or as academy/youth players. Subtard fail.

Their total team salary per week is 23,500 pounds, with is 1/10 of what Carlos Tevez makes per week.

That's a weird way of agreeing with me.

/I missed the whole "if you don't like someone's facts, agree with them, but add another element that makes it look like they were wrong" debate class in school.

Yeah, for being a passive aggressive jackass. I'm just stating a nice fact. Don't get your panties in a bunch.


1) Annoyed by "passive aggressive" post
2) Make a passive aggressive reply with tacked on stawman
3) Get called on it
4) Blame the other guy
5) ???
6) WINNAR
 
2013-01-23 11:21:53 AM  

Vegan T-Rex: carnifex2005: Vegan T-Rex: carnifex2005: Vegan T-Rex: Their salary isn't 7,500 pounds. They are referring to how Bradford assembled their current roster, not how much they are paid. They purchased one player from another club for a fee of 7,500 and added everyone else on "free transfers" (true free agents) or as academy/youth players. Subtard fail.

Their total team salary per week is 23,500 pounds, with is 1/10 of what Carlos Tevez makes per week.

That's a weird way of agreeing with me.

/I missed the whole "if you don't like someone's facts, agree with them, but add another element that makes it look like they were wrong" debate class in school.

Yeah, for being a passive aggressive jackass. I'm just stating a nice fact. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

1) Annoyed by "passive aggressive" post
2) Make a passive aggressive reply with tacked on stawman
3) Get called on it
4) Blame the other guy
5) ???
6) WINNAR


You drunk?
 
2013-01-23 11:28:41 AM  

carnifex2005: Vegan T-Rex: carnifex2005: Vegan T-Rex: carnifex2005: Vegan T-Rex: Their salary isn't 7,500 pounds. They are referring to how Bradford assembled their current roster, not how much they are paid. They purchased one player from another club for a fee of 7,500 and added everyone else on "free transfers" (true free agents) or as academy/youth players. Subtard fail.

Their total team salary per week is 23,500 pounds, with is 1/10 of what Carlos Tevez makes per week.

That's a weird way of agreeing with me.

/I missed the whole "if you don't like someone's facts, agree with them, but add another element that makes it look like they were wrong" debate class in school.

Yeah, for being a passive aggressive jackass. I'm just stating a nice fact. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

1) Annoyed by "passive aggressive" post
2) Make a passive aggressive reply with tacked on stawman
3) Get called on it
4) Blame the other guy
5) ???
6) WINNAR

You drunk?


The day is young
 
2013-01-23 11:36:54 AM  

carnifex2005: MattyFridays: Kell Hound: This is why the FA Cup is awesome. It's like minor league baseball teams being allowed to play MLB teams, but with a far better chance of going all the way. FA Cup games are much more exciting because of that. It doesn't happen very often, but the possibility always exists. Compare that to any of our pro sports!

Don't we have the US Open Cup in MLS that's the same exact thing?

The US Open Cup (second oldest soccer cup competition in the world by the way) would be more equivalent to the FA Cup in England. There isn't an equivalent to the League Cup in the US.


whats the difference between the League Cup and the FA Cup?
 
2013-01-23 11:43:30 AM  

jackiepaper: carnifex2005: MattyFridays: Kell Hound: This is why the FA Cup is awesome. It's like minor league baseball teams being allowed to play MLB teams, but with a far better chance of going all the way. FA Cup games are much more exciting because of that. It doesn't happen very often, but the possibility always exists. Compare that to any of our pro sports!

Don't we have the US Open Cup in MLS that's the same exact thing?

The US Open Cup (second oldest soccer cup competition in the world by the way) would be more equivalent to the FA Cup in England. There isn't an equivalent to the League Cup in the US.

whats the difference between the League Cup and the FA Cup?


The FA Cup has every team (about 600) including amateur sides in it. The League Cup only has the top four leagues (92 teams) in it.
 
2013-01-23 11:53:02 AM  

carnifex2005: MattyFridays: Kell Hound: This is why the FA Cup is awesome. It's like minor league baseball teams being allowed to play MLB teams, but with a far better chance of going all the way. FA Cup games are much more exciting because of that. It doesn't happen very often, but the possibility always exists. Compare that to any of our pro sports!

Don't we have the US Open Cup in MLS that's the same exact thing?

The US Open Cup (second oldest soccer cup competition in the world by the way) would be more equivalent to the FA Cup in England. There isn't an equivalent to the League Cup in the US.


Pretty much this. The FA Cup invites every club who has a suitable stadium, competes in any of the top 10 tiers of English football (this encompasses around 500 teams), and played in one of the FA tournaments the previous season (being the FA Cup as well as the FA Trophy and FA Vase for non-league teams). The US Open Cup is pretty similar, but has a different qualification system.

The League Cup is only for the four divisions of "league" teams: The Premier League, Championship, and Leagues One and Two. So, yeah, Bradford's accomplishment would profile similarly to an A-level baseball team beating three MLB teams in the same tournament. An FA Cup equivalent would be you and your drinking buddies beating an MLB team (it happens every once in a while in the FA Cup, usually when the Premier League teams field weaker teams to rest their star players).
 
2013-01-23 12:01:15 PM  

Emrick: If they make it to the Europa Cup that would be an embarrassment for England. Cool story though.


www.puertochan.org

Love the story and that's what's great about cup football. Barnsley (IIRC a Championship side at the time) went to an FA Cup semifinal knocking off the likes of Liverpool AND Chelsea.

Not to mention the likes of Kidderminster, Wycombe Wanderers and Stevenage as great giant killing sides.
 
2013-01-23 12:05:02 PM  

stickymichael: I think the achievement is also stronger when you consider that, for all that the likes of Wenger and Fegie biatch about fixture congestion, Bradford have played more games than any other club this season - and they've hardly got a squad of 25-30 quality players that they can keep rotating.


I never get that; if you've bought the players then surely you bought them so they can do a job for you. If they can't then it's on you because you didn't do your homework. It annoys me when the likes of Wenger and Fergie compain about the fixture list yet you've got the players to bring in to play those games so you can rest you're most important players and yet, you don't trust them.

Says a lot about their own control issues.
 
2013-01-23 12:15:29 PM  

YixilTesiphon: vossiewulf: To be fair AV have mostly been getting beaten like rented mules in the EPL. So it's more like the best single A team beating last year's Houston Astros.

I am pretty sure the Dynamo could cross the street and beat the Astros.


Probably.but i'm sure that move to the AL will work just fine...snicker
 
2013-01-23 01:44:50 PM  
I hope Chelsea goes through tonight, just so they get another fixture. Our Europa League tie is the Thursday before and after, with the League Cup Final falling on the Sunday between.
 
2013-01-23 04:07:54 PM  
In other footy related news: holy crap Arsenal. 4 goals in 10 minutes?
 
2013-01-23 04:14:47 PM  

ADubs86: I don't know whether or not to root for Swansea today because I want to see da Swans in Europe, or see Chelsea win to see if there's the chance that Bradford will pull off the biggest giant killing in modern history.


fark chel$ki. i hope they go down today like rosie o'donnell chasing a dropped donut.
 
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