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(Independent Science News)   Undiscovered viral gene accidentally encoded in GM crops may have serious health impacts on humans, including RNA malformations that could turn us all in to purple-skinned tentacle-sporting, winged lizard people   (independentsciencenews.org) divider line 16
    More: Scary, RNA, GM crops, European Food Safety Authority, gmos, impacts, mRNA, base pairs, gene accidentally  
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2013-01-23 06:42:42 AM
6 votes:
weknowmemes.com
2013-01-23 05:21:12 AM
3 votes:
I've been vaccinated with autism, so I'm immune.
2013-01-23 07:02:15 AM
2 votes:
mixnmojo.com
2013-01-23 04:57:13 AM
2 votes:
EAT DORITOS
cache.ohinternet.com
KIDNEYS FALL OUT OF YOUR ASS
2013-01-23 11:23:51 AM
1 votes:
Macs don't get viruses.
2013-01-23 09:47:39 AM
1 votes:
i guarantee you noone reading this article knows what 35S is, what a gene fragment is, the difference between a gene and a gene product is, what leaky expression is, or that mostly all genomes in all higher species are pretty much nothing but viruses already. 35S has been used in the lab for over 30 years, scientists have probably noticed how to include it without having extra gene bits expressing themselves (in a variety of genetic backgrounds). my only wish and hope is that Monsanto's HR will enact a little 35S-near-total-constitutive-promotion behind reading my resume and hiring me.
2013-01-23 09:22:49 AM
1 votes:
are the evil scientists who made the devil corn lighter than a duck or not? I know they played god with nature, and that's already terribad. I just need to know if they are lighter than a duck.

I could not tell from the article.

/panic!
2013-01-23 08:42:10 AM
1 votes:

vinniethepoo: Hah, "Independent" Science News as in not peer-reviewed or even fact-checked (I'll bet.)


Basic background check: Neither author's name appears in a Scifinder or Google Scholar search.

Publication legitimacy check: Also, looking at the other articles on the site, yeah, this is a conspiracy theory site that focuses on making shiat up whole-cloth or scaremongering about GM food, nothing of actual substance, there.

Actual science check: the article seems confused as to the basic high-school biology level of how viruses work. Encoding viral DNA into other organisms is how viruses reproduce, they do it without any interference from human biologists, it's not terribly dangerous, and a substantial portion of your own genetic code consists of old viral DNA.

What they're talking about, if it's even true, is only of interest in establishing the pedigree of the crop in question, and has nothing to do with whether the crop is healthy/nutritious or not. Without the delivery system, i.e. the actual virus, DNA fragments don't have any way to get into your cells even if they _did_ survive the digestive tract.
2013-01-23 08:34:46 AM
1 votes:

NickelP: Is this basically the equivalent of saying if a chick blows someone with cancer she can get it too or am i missing something?


That's about it. It's fearmongering bullshiat, as you might expect from the anti GMO nuts.

Also, subby should have gone with one eyed, one horned, flying purple people eater.
2013-01-23 07:49:23 AM
1 votes:

Kaydub: Genetically antagonistic corn. Really?


kidsdungeonadventure.com
2013-01-23 07:08:18 AM
1 votes:

knowless: so yall do realise that "viral genes" are like diseases that transmit interpersonally and irrevocably alter your genetic makep right? like, the worst kind of potentially nonlethal disease possible?

it's not like it will contaminate the entire world food supply right? oh wait, .. whatevr.

fark all of you.


No, no they don't. Thats really not easy to do at all. Do they insert their genome into yours? Yes, where they infect some of them do. But its not so simple as "well, this material is in corn, so obviously it can infect you JUST LIKE A VIRUS." Viruses aren't composed of single genes and it takes a several mechanisms to facilitate infection, insertion, replication, etc. You can't just ingest (or even inject...) pieces of random genes and expect them to be successfully inserted.

Plus, it doesn't "irrevocably alter your genetic code forever." To get permanent genetic changes you have to have a germ-line level infection. The cells of your body are constantly in a cycle of birth, use, wearing out, and death. Depending on the tissue, cell-type, cell-damage from various factors, how fast or slow this occurs changes. To get permanent change you have to infect these "growing areas." Considering this is just a piece of a single gene, without the rest of the infection machinery, thats incredibly unlikely. Its even more unlikely when you take into account the human digestive tract has evolved to resist foreign interlopers. Its one of the few internal places in the body regularly exposed to the outside world and is not exactly a cuddly happy environment for non-hardy organisms, let alone bits of random genetic material.

/basic explanation for basic misunderstanding.
//was my biggest pet peeve with Bourne Legacy.
2013-01-23 05:09:56 AM
1 votes:

LowbrowDeluxe: Every article on that website seems to be pants-wettingly afraid of SOMETHING. GMOs. Fracking. I saw something about the evil scientific community conspiracy 'excommunicating a heretic'. Pesticides killing our children, news after the jump. It just kept going on and on.


Just because every other article is fearmongering bullshiat doesn't mean this one shouldn't be paid attention to with the utmost diligence.
2013-01-23 03:07:12 AM
1 votes:
Is There a Direct Human Toxicity Issue?
When Gene VI is intentionally expressed in transgenic plants, it causes them to become chlorotic (yellow), to have growth deformities, and to have reduced fertility in a dose-dependent manner (Ziljstra et al 1996). Plants expressing Gene VI also show gene expression abnormalities. These results indicate that, not unexpectedly given its known functions, the protein produced by Gene VI is functioning as a toxin and is harmful to plants (Takahashi et al 1989). Since the known targets of Gene VI activity (ribosomes and gene silencing) are also found in human cells, a reasonable concern is that the protein produced by Gene VI might be a human toxin. This is a question that can only be answered by future experiments.We don't have any idea, so read this scary sounding article instead because we we don't like genetically modified crops.
2013-01-23 12:04:21 AM
1 votes:
As long as they don't repro---

www.familyguyfiles.com

Too late.
2013-01-22 09:59:16 PM
1 votes:

Kaydub: Genetically antagonistic corn. Really?


You mean making our crops poisonous was a bad idea?
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2013-01-22 09:27:47 PM
1 votes:

some_beer_drinker: or, give some of us super powers. i want to be invisible, or be able to fly. eat up, everyone. there is only one way to be sure.


Oops, sorry you get cancer...
 
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