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(BBC)   Why do puns, even from such brilliant minds as Cicero, Quintilian, Shakespeare, Groucho Marx, Victor Borge, William Safire and Rodney Dangerfield, get no respect -- no respect, et al?   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 116
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2013-01-22 08:22:21 PM
Because the sword is mightier than the pun?
 
2013-01-22 08:26:51 PM
Puns lost a lot of respect after the Punic Wars.
 
2013-01-22 08:27:37 PM
splashysplash.com
 
2013-01-22 08:30:14 PM
A good pun should not make people laugh it should make them groan and wince.

A great pun makes people take a knee.
 
2013-01-22 08:30:39 PM
Al's kind of insecure.  He's a shoe salesman, after all.
 
2013-01-22 08:33:59 PM
Cicero was a purported little asshole.
 
2013-01-22 08:57:36 PM
There can be only pun
 
2013-01-22 09:02:39 PM
Too many writers b***h and moan about clever wordplay in cultural artifacts. The rest of us should simply ignore the pundits who punned it.
 
2013-01-22 09:08:14 PM
Groucho was mentioned in one of my linguistic text books.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana"
 
2013-01-22 09:09:06 PM
Foreign language puns get no respect because it isn't funny if you have to translate it.
 
2013-01-22 09:13:50 PM

fusillade762: Foreign language puns get no respect because it isn't funny if you have to translate it.


Corazon C. Aquino used to be President of the Philippines. She was a nice woman but kind of incompetent.

So people used to point to their hearts and say "Corazon, si". Then point to their head and say "Aqui, No"

It was a clever pun on her name saying she has a heart but no brain.
 
2013-01-22 09:15:03 PM
I crafted my ability to pun after a year abroad at the Shakespeare Academy.  It was a gruelling year, all in an effort to be the next William Shakespeare.  I guess, in the end, it was worth it, but I still have vivid memories of the terror I felt when my parents said they were sending me away to barding school.


/horses!
 
2013-01-22 09:20:14 PM
This girl said she recognized me from the vegetarian club, but I'd never met herbivore.

/also most farkers on the politics tab are like dull pencils
 
2013-01-22 09:20:24 PM
media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-22 09:21:38 PM
A hypnotist once convinced me that I was a soft, malleable metal with an atomic number of 82.

I'm easily lead.
 
2013-01-22 09:22:50 PM

thisisyourbrainonFark: This girl said she recognized me from the vegetarian club, but I'd never met herbivore.

/also most farkers on the politics tab are like dull pencils


Nah. 90% of the comments come from alts arguing with themselves. It's more schizoid than dull.
 
2013-01-22 09:25:29 PM
My business cards read "Have pun, will travail"

/wire Podadin
 
2013-01-22 09:27:13 PM

fusillade762: Foreign language puns get no respect because it isn't funny if you have to translate it.


My favorite pun in a long time was made after my colonoscopy last month. Asked how I felt afterwards, I made a mixed language pun. "Oh, comme cecum ça."

In French, 'comme si comme ça' means 'so so'.
 
2013-01-22 09:28:49 PM

vernonFL: fusillade762: Foreign language puns get no respect because it isn't funny if you have to translate it.

Corazon C. Aquino used to be President of the Philippines. She was a nice woman but kind of incompetent.

So people used to point to their hearts and say "Corazon, si". Then point to their head and say "Aqui, No"

It was a clever pun on her name saying she has a heart but no brain.


Ah, see I did find that one funny. But of course I know enough Spanish to understand it.
 
2013-01-22 09:29:56 PM

simplicimus: thisisyourbrainonFark: This girl said she recognized me from the vegetarian club, but I'd never met herbivore.

/also most farkers on the politics tab are like dull pencils

Nah. 90% of the comments come from alts arguing with themselves. It's more schizoid than dull.


Goes even more to my point: They don't have one.

/explaining jokes does make them much less punny
 
2013-01-22 09:32:07 PM
I want to buy 2 chickens, a rooster and a hen. That way I can have a cock and pullet.
 
2013-01-22 09:33:11 PM

One Bad Apple: A great pun makes people take a knee.


Yes, but the ACLU has capped the number of those puns I can make.
 
2013-01-22 09:38:10 PM
A description of why someone liked puns went as follows: when you tell another kind of joke, you immediately divide the room into two groups; those who liked the joke and those who didn't. Puns, on the other hand, are things you put on a pedestal and <i>all</i> point at and groan, and agree with each other how awful they were.

Stuck with me. In reality puns aren't so inclusive, because some people have a knee-jerk reaction of near-hatred to them, but linguistically they are a tongue of fun and are worth the small amount of effort needed to create one. It's nice when you're with a group of people and someone tells a pun and everybody groans and moans, and a few of the groans are genuine, but most are appreciative, and even the genuine ones are kind of "ugh, but yeah okay that was clever."

In conclusion puns are nifty. I yield my remaining floor time.
 
2013-01-22 09:58:23 PM
A groan from a good pun is just as good as a laugh from a good joke. I have nothing but respect for a good pun.
 
2013-01-22 10:18:44 PM
Click the link, prepare for pun
fourcoloursandthetruth.files.wordpress.com
ishment.
 
2013-01-22 10:20:07 PM

fusillade762: Foreign language puns get no respect because it isn't funny if you have to translate it.


True that... and even between countries that ostensibly speak the same language.  From what I understand, the following is only funny in Cuba and Venezuela:

sabes tanto que sabes a mierda

which is a pun on the similar conjugation of saber and sabor.  I don't know if I used the correct spelling of the conjugation of sabor, but I do know they sound the same.

/you know so much you taste like shiat
 
2013-01-22 10:31:28 PM

simplicimus: Groucho was mentioned in one of my linguistic text books.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana"


You can leave in a taxi. If you can't get a taxi, you can leave in a huff. If that's too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff.
 
2013-01-22 10:31:46 PM
I've been known to make a few  too many puns... I recall reading an article about puns that told the story of a former Archbishop of Dublin (Church of Ireland, I think). He once asked "what is there to eat in the Great Desert? You eat the sand which is there. But who provided the sandwiches? Noah, for he sent his son and Ham mustered and bred"
 
2013-01-22 10:34:55 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: simplicimus: Groucho was mentioned in one of my linguistic text books.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana"

You can leave in a taxi. If you can't get a taxi, you can leave in a huff. If that's too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff.


"This is a gala day for you."
Groucho: "Well, a gal a day is enough for me. I don't think I could handle any more."
 
2013-01-22 10:44:19 PM
phi and rho, or "Fie, Rowe!"

I don't understand this, but also Φ and fie don't sound the same.
 
2013-01-22 10:52:32 PM
Well, that was an onslaught of unnecessary.....

*dons sunglasses*

......pun-tification.

/Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!
 
2013-01-22 10:59:16 PM
I'm spineless when it comes to resisting the urge to make puns. Somebody slug me.
 
2013-01-22 11:14:51 PM

Twilight Farkle: I'm spineless when it comes to resisting the urge to make puns. Somebody slug me.


Don't look at me
 
2013-01-22 11:29:29 PM
I love puns. I can't help it.

/dont judge me
 
2013-01-22 11:34:11 PM
hockeyheadblog.com


What a punny thread
 
2013-01-22 11:35:52 PM
I gotta say, I'm a big fan of Minnesota Vikings punter Chris Kluwe.
 
2013-01-22 11:37:47 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Twilight Farkle: I'm spineless when it comes to resisting the urge to make puns. Somebody slug me.

Don't look at me


I'm an incorrigible punster. Stop incorraging me.
 
2013-01-22 11:45:04 PM

Twilight Farkle: I'm an incorrigible punster. Stop incorraging me.


Where's the pun in that?
 
2013-01-22 11:52:05 PM
It is cool that puns are used in every language, from Hebrew to Greek to Latin to Chinese. Chinese use puns to get around internet censorship.
 
2013-01-23 12:17:01 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Twilight Farkle: I'm an incorrigible punster. Stop incorraging me.

Where's the pun in that?


Permission to read it, allowed.
 
2013-01-23 12:19:59 AM

Twilight Farkle: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Twilight Farkle: I'm an incorrigible punster. Stop incorraging me.

Where's the pun in that?

Permission to read it, allowed.


Carrion
 
2013-01-23 12:39:49 AM

DrowningLessons: linguistically they are a tongue of fun


That was a long way to go for just that one. Unless there were some that I missed.
 
2013-01-23 12:51:16 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Twilight Farkle: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Twilight Farkle: I'm an incorrigible punster. Stop incorraging me.

Where's the pun in that?

Permission to read it, allowed.

Carrion


meandtheblueskies.files.wordpress.com

I'm sorry, sir, you'll have to check that cake. Airline policy forbids more than one per passenger.
 
2013-01-23 02:49:55 AM

Demetrius: A groan from a good pun is just as good as a laugh from a good joke. I have nothing but respect for a good pun.


I think part of the reason comedies from the pre-modern era suffer is that we need a plethora of footnotes to explain all the puns. And of course, explaining a joke ruins it.
 
2013-01-23 02:50:26 AM
bios.weddingbee.com
Not really. But Safire so good.
 
2013-01-23 02:51:07 AM
William Safire - RIP.

My favorite columnist of all time.

/Old
 
2013-01-23 02:51:32 AM
www.theschoolforheroes.com

Sock it
 
2013-01-23 02:52:42 AM
BTW, relevant to the article, I love a place in Georgia called "What the Pho?"
 
2013-01-23 03:07:06 AM
From what I've read, to the Navajo making puns is high entertainment, since altering a single vowel in one word can change the meaning of an entire phrase...usually into some dirty joke. The code talkers made heavy use of puns just to make it even harder for the Japanese to figure anything out. (g)

Meanwhile:

"The third is its slowness in taking a jest,
Should you happen to venture on one:
It will sigh like a thing that is deeply distressed,
And it always looks grave at a pun." - From The Hunting of the Snark, Lewis Carroll
 
2013-01-23 03:12:08 AM
A good pun is like good sex: you can tell from the moaning.
 
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