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(PennLive)   Hey, an electric company is planning a scheduled outage overnight when temperatures are near sub-zero, what's the worst that can happen?   (pennlive.com) divider line 131
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2013-01-22 09:39:38 PM

ElPollotonto: It's not the cold that kills you, it's having to reset the time on the microwave


I can handle that. My stove is the property of my landlord and the time controls don't work on it. So either at midnight or noon I need to unplug the bastard to have the right time. But the entire rest of the gas stove/oven works so I can't complain too much.
 
2013-01-22 09:40:39 PM
what's the worst that can happen?

A mini baby boom in 9 months?
/ baby, it's cold outside
// inside, too
 
2013-01-22 09:41:20 PM
I'd love to say something snarky about how there used to be an age when we had no electricity, and people got along just fine in this sort of weather.... but we've become dependent on electricity to heat our homes, and that's not entirely unreasonable. Most people don't have alternative means to heat their houses, and can't afford to just run out and buy kerosene heaters for 4 hours.

Chances are they will be fine.
 
2013-01-22 09:41:34 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Happy Hours: No natural gas heat?

You still need power to run the blower and control systems.


Sure, if you live in some fancy palace. I lived in a 3 bedroom house for years that just had one of those wall heaters that buzzcut posted. No electricity needed. If we wanted heat in other rooms, we set up fans on a couple of stacked TV trays to blow the hot air towards the bedrooms and/or kitchen. And, yes, we did have a picture-on-picture setup in the living room. The "portable" TV with a handle sitting on top of the console TV.
 
2013-01-22 09:43:30 PM

kvinesknows:

what powers it?


Natural gas flows in, the burner at the bottom heats the channels (think metal cylinders that gradually flatten out as you get higher) from the bottom up, heat radiates out the front (or in the case of the model shown, the front and the back (it would be installed on an interior wall for that model), they're vented to the outside just like your water heater.

They're pretty low tech, but it works.
 
2013-01-22 09:43:58 PM

dj245: In my house, the daytime setpoint is 68F and the nighttime setpoint is 60F during cold months. Temperature switches automatically at 11PM and 6:45AM with my fancypants Honeywell thermostat.

I wake up at 6:45 and the temperature usually is 62 or thereabouts with an outside temperature of 20F. Temperature equilibrium is logarithmic- that is, the closer the inside gets to the outside temperature, the longer it is going to take for the temperature to drop another 1degree. If your house gets dangerously cold in less than 24 hours there is probably nothing between the walls and the windows are open.


Pretty much. I have a timer that shuts my furnace off at night and the coldest it's been in my house when I get up is 58 degrees, and that was on one of the coldest days in the last five years.
 
2013-01-22 09:44:10 PM
People with temperature sensitive critters like lizards are going to be lining up to sue the shiat out of the power company if the critters die. Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp. Old people that die of the cold are also going to make their families wealthy from the suits.

Personally I think that every time something like this happens the CEO and every exec of the power company need to be taken out and hung. The next batch of execs will make damned sure the power stays on.
 
2013-01-22 09:44:52 PM

kvinesknows: buzzcut73: [www.homedepot.com image 300x300]

50,000 BTU/hr wall furnace. $594 at Home Depot. Put one of these in the house, and you won't be cold when the power goes out.

/Not recommended for primary heating in very cold climates, but good for a backup
//Is the primary heat source for older houses in the Southwest, including mine

what powers it?


Looks like it operates just like water heaters, no electricity needed. Natural Gas or Propane.

Link

/Paying more attention to "southwest" way of doing things, as I'm looking to move down that way
 
2013-01-22 09:45:18 PM
My electric provider, SCE, just pulled this stunt on us a couple weeks ago, right before we got hit with some very cold weather. Actually, they'd planned it right before Christmas, but postponed it.

This was during the day, though, so it wasn't all that bad except even the local gas stations had no power and only cold coffee. After a few hours out and around, I took a nap and woke up to every damn thing in my home beeping to let me know to set the time.

/csb
 
2013-01-22 09:45:29 PM
24.media.tumblr.com

Contrary to those upbeat lyrics, the Electric Company would like us to emphasize it will not be bringing you the power.
 
2013-01-22 09:46:26 PM
Its a lot better than if you Cut the power for 8h at the day time and its 37census outside and your freezer stuff all get flaped-upp

Just saying your able to dress for cold and it a bit harder to dress for heat
 
2013-01-22 09:46:29 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp.


You can get a single herp? I guess I've just always seen the plural, herpes.
 
2013-01-22 09:46:34 PM
I went almost two weeks without power following a major ice storm several years back in an area that doesn't typically see stuff that harsh. 4 hours that are necessary to fix something that's broke? Alert the media!
 
2013-01-22 09:47:21 PM
Near sub-zero? So, is that zero?
 
2013-01-22 09:49:05 PM
Maybe they'd have the money to refit their infrastructure if they didn't blow it all on childrens programming.
 
2013-01-22 09:52:35 PM

untaken_name: Smeggy Smurf: Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp.

You can get a single herp? I guess I've just always seen the plural, herpes.


cumbria-reptile-keepers.webs.com

Your joke makes herpy happy
 
2013-01-22 09:54:34 PM

SuperDuper28: I went almost two weeks without power following a major ice storm several years back in an area that doesn't typically see stuff that harsh. 4 hours that are necessary to fix something that's broke? Alert the media!


Northeast Indiana perhaps?
 
2013-01-22 09:59:40 PM
I live in a drafty apartment - it was 16 degrees here last night.  I turn my heat off when I got to bed around 1am and back on when I wake up at 7am.  Sure it's chilly in the morning, but sheesh it's not icicle cold.
 
2013-01-22 10:00:08 PM
Sounds like Corbett and his cronies are doing their part to cut entitlement spending by any means necessary. The Penn State Soylent Green lab is fully funded too!
 
2013-01-22 10:02:55 PM

Smeggy Smurf: People with temperature sensitive critters like lizards are going to be lining up to sue the shiat out of the power company if the critters die. Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp. Old people that die of the cold are also going to make their families wealthy from the suits.

Personally I think that every time something like this happens the CEO and every exec of the power company need to be taken out and hung. The next batch of execs will make damned sure the power stays on.


...said the person who knows a lot more about herpetology than utility maintenance.  Take it from someone who's had to repair aerial spans after a storm in 18-degree weather.

Utilities can never account for everything.  Counting on 100% uptime for electricity/gas is foolish at best, and not having a backup plan is plain stupid.  Especially if you live somewhere that can get sub-zero temps.

Next time, instead of spending a thousand bucks on a lizard (!), they should think about a $200 lizard and spend the rest on a generator.
 
2013-01-22 10:08:48 PM
Taking the "A" off his varsity sweater, Letterman turns the "cool", back into "coal"!

*trumpet fanfare*

/how i assume The Electric Company would solve the problem
 
2013-01-22 10:08:55 PM
I was ready to get outraged but given the details in the article i find no outrage to be had. I just hope they have the common sense to prep everything needed to replace the switch before cutting the power so they can make the repair as swiftly as possible.
 
2013-01-22 10:09:14 PM
Gettysburg - gonna party like it's 1863.
 
2013-01-22 10:15:11 PM
The middle of the night is when electricity demand is the lowest. And the power company is actually warning people about the outage so they can prepare.

Doesn't mean utilities aren't dickheads, but this is one of their better moments.
 
2013-01-22 10:20:33 PM

Jakesta: Near sub-zero? So, is that zero?


Came for this. If it's near sub-zero, then it must be nearer zero.
 
2013-01-22 10:20:48 PM

The Angry Hand of God: [images.wikia.com image 800x508]


I'm here for that.
People are slow.
 
2013-01-22 10:21:02 PM

frenchcheesemuseum: I live in a drafty apartment - it was 16 degrees here last night.  I turn my heat off when I got to bed around 1am and back on when I wake up at 7am.  Sure it's chilly in the morning, but sheesh it's not icicle cold.


FAHRENHEIT?

Dude.  I lived in a drafty as hell older house where I didn't pay for utilities, and even then I managed to throw up some plastic sheeting on the windows and some stuff to cover the gaps around the doors.  Because even though I didn't have to pay a dime, damn did it suck trying to go to bed while actually feeling the wind coming out from under my window.

We turn off our heat at night too.  House isn't horrible but definitely wasn't built properly insulated.  It still got nowhere NEAR below freezing last night... and it was -10 without wind chill outside.

Insulate, dammit.
 
2013-01-22 10:25:19 PM
Big deal. When the power goes off, your generator kicks in to supply you with the power you need. All you need to be ready is enough diesel fuel to last through this major media story...5 gallons should do the trick.
 
2013-01-22 10:25:23 PM

Smeggy Smurf: People with temperature sensitive critters like lizards are going to be lining up to sue the shiat out of the power company if the critters die. Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp. Old people that die of the cold are also going to make their families wealthy from the suits.

Personally I think that every time something like this happens the CEO and every exec of the power company need to be taken out and hung. The next batch of execs will make damned sure the power stays on.


I think the company has it covered. They let people know ahead of time. About sensitive critters:

FTA: Take precaution with pets. Make sure they have somewhere safe to stay.

Also relating to old people:

FTA: Make arrangements to stay elsewhere overnight: with friends, family or in a hotel.
If you plan to stay home, have extra blankets and warm clothing readily available.


I'd rather have a utility company identify a problem and fix it ASAP rather than letting it go which would likely cause a bigger problem done the road.

The emphasis is mine.
 
2013-01-22 10:29:23 PM

FizixJunkee: They can't do this during the [warmer] day when most people are at school or work, or when seniors can get to out of the house and to someplace warm?


There's probably temporary equipment in place and I can't sit there for 4 months until the weather improves
 
2013-01-22 10:29:44 PM
Four hours? Sheesh. Four days - now that would be something to get upset over. How about four days plus you have to keep all the windows open. And no socks. Get someone to work on that press release.
 
2013-01-22 10:31:11 PM

theMightyRegeya: "an emergency outage scheduled by Met-Ed."

Emergency...scheduled...hm...


Yeah, I know. It sounds weird, but it's logical. Used to do it in IT when the wheels would come off, and the server equivalent of duct tape and chewing gum let you limp through til low usage. Schedule the emergency outage then kick the ssucker in the nuts and fix it right.
 
2013-01-22 10:33:27 PM
Aheem
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2013-01-22 10:35:52 PM

buzzcut73: 50,000 BTU/hr wall furnace. $594 at Home Depot. Put one of these in the house, and you won't be cold when the power goes out.

/Not recommended for primary heating in very cold climates, but good for a backup
//Is the primary heat source for older houses in the Southwest, including mine


Natural gas?
 
2013-01-22 10:49:12 PM
"Hey, you guyyyyyyyyyys.....!"
/sorry, just had to....
 
2013-01-22 10:52:52 PM

buckler: Residents are advised to bring charcoal grills inside and light them to generate heat. Be sure to close all outside windows and doors tightly to maintain warmth.


Don't forget the turkey fryer.
 
2013-01-22 10:54:19 PM

SuperDuper28: I went almost two weeks without power following a major ice storm several years back in an area that doesn't typically see stuff that harsh. 4 hours that are necessary to fix something that's broke? Alert the media!


Same thing happened to me at the end of 2011. Living a couple hours south of Seattle, had a nasty ice storm blow through that knocked out power over a ridiculously large area. If I remember right it took about a week and a half to get power back in our neighborhood. It really sucks being a nerd like me with nothing to do but sit around wrapped in blankets waiting for hypothermia to liberate your soul from your corpsicle.

/PSE suck balls
//at least we didn't have to worry about the food in the fridge spoiling
 
2013-01-22 10:57:49 PM
Four hours? Big deal. I'd guess that if they didn't tell anyone beforehand, 90% of people wouldn't even know it happened if it weren't for their microwave blinking when they got out of bed in the morning.
 
2013-01-22 10:58:50 PM
/All this way and no Professor? Fark, Disappoint, etc.
 
2013-01-22 10:59:01 PM
The worst that could happen is probably a huge asteroid crashing into the Atlantic Ocean sending up a plume of molten rock and dust. Following the strike, a 500 foot tsunami smashing the shores of Europe and the Americas would obliterate the inhabitable areas of the continents for hundreds of miles inland. The wall of molten dust and rock would travel across the sky and ground causing raging forest fires in the remaining lands. As the dust blotted out the sky, the Earth would plunge into an ice age and all but the smallest species would die of starvation in the subsequent decades.

From the ruins, insects would emerge and subsequently evolve into intelligent beings. They would be highly organized and have a strong work ethic. After several millennia, they would perfect interstellar space travel and invade Sssla, wiping out the indigenous Sakkra civilization. Taking the Sakkra technology, they would set their sights on Meklon and the Meklar civilization.

Becoming aware of the Earth, the technologically advanced Meklars would send warships here to wipe out all life on the planet. After a valiant struggle, the insect life on earth is vanquished and the planet is left irradiated and lifeless.

And that's pretty terrible.
 
2013-01-22 10:59:43 PM
Let's try that again.

shittymovienight.com
 
2013-01-22 11:01:02 PM
well, some of us have fishtanks. Awright?
 
2013-01-22 11:06:21 PM
You know the outage is coming. Just crank the heat up to 85 or whatever and enjoy some time sitting around in your boxers. Then set the thermostat back to your normal temp and go about life while the power is out. Of course the problem with this is in the middle of the night you're going to have to wake up multiple times to add blankets as the house cools.

/our area is so power failure prone I have a whole house generator and propane tank for the generator
 
2013-01-22 11:07:45 PM
You want to have some heat, but its off along your street. How do you go demand a power supply? Angrily, Angrily, Anger....L Y

It came back after 4 hours, but you still wanna feel sour. How do you look on the road to passerby? Dourly, Dourly, Dour...L Y

You make headlines on fark, and you need a spark. How do you ask a question asinine? Sarcasticly, Sarcasticly, Sarcastic...L Y

/fark yeah Tom Lehrer
 
2013-01-22 11:09:57 PM

AverageAmericanGuy:
And that's pretty terrible.


What if right before the asteroid hit, Lex Luthor stole 40 cakes?
 
2013-01-22 11:10:15 PM
Put some more farking blankets on the bed.

/DNRTFA
 
2013-01-22 11:15:38 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: The worst that could happen is probably a huge asteroid crashing into the Atlantic Ocean sending up a plume of molten rock and dust. Following the strike, a 500 foot tsunami smashing the shores of Europe and the Americas would obliterate the inhabitable areas of the continents for hundreds of miles inland. The wall of molten dust and rock would travel across the sky and ground causing raging forest fires in the remaining lands. As the dust blotted out the sky, the Earth would plunge into an ice age and all but the smallest species would die of starvation in the subsequent decades.

From the ruins, insects would emerge and subsequently evolve into intelligent beings. They would be highly organized and have a strong work ethic. After several millennia, they would perfect interstellar space travel and invade Sssla, wiping out the indigenous Sakkra civilization. Taking the Sakkra technology, they would set their sights on Meklon and the Meklar civilization.

Becoming aware of the Earth, the technologically advanced Meklars would send warships here to wipe out all life on the planet. After a valiant struggle, the insect life on earth is vanquished and the planet is left irradiated and lifeless.

And that's pretty terrible.


WTF did I just read?
 
zez
2013-01-22 11:20:11 PM

buzzcut73: [www.homedepot.com image 300x300]

50,000 BTU/hr wall furnace. $594 at Home Depot. Put one of these in the house, and you won't be cold when the power goes out.

/Not recommended for primary heating in very cold climates, but good for a backup
//Is the primary heat source for older houses in the Southwest, including mine


I guess I'll use it like a blanket since I have no gas line to my house.
 
2013-01-22 11:25:58 PM
If it's left up to Met-Ed to fix it will take 8 hours instead of 4.
/live a couple of miles south east of the affected areas
//Met-Ed customer
///They suck
 
zez
2013-01-22 11:27:18 PM

SuperDuper28: I went almost two weeks without power following a major ice storm several years back in an area that doesn't typically see stuff that harsh. 4 hours that are necessary to fix something that's broke? Alert the media!


South St Louis?
 
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