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(PennLive)   Hey, an electric company is planning a scheduled outage overnight when temperatures are near sub-zero, what's the worst that can happen?   (pennlive.com) divider line 131
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2013-01-22 08:22:42 PM  
what's the worst that can happen?

They roll doubles and land on Water Works?
 
2013-01-22 08:54:24 PM  
They can't do this during the [warmer] day when most people are at school or work, or when seniors can get to out of the house and to someplace warm?
 
2013-01-22 08:54:31 PM  
The dinosaurs get out?
 
2013-01-22 08:54:42 PM  
Your house shouldn't freeze THAT quickly. If it does, you're probably paying a fortune to heat it and you should invest in insulation. Put on a sweater.
 
2013-01-22 08:55:10 PM  
Throw on an extra blanket when you go to bed and shut up. People go without power for more than 4 hours quite often in the winter when snowstorms bring down power line deal with it.
 
2013-01-22 08:55:46 PM  
superradnow.files.wordpress.com

70s Morgan Freeman is a heartless bastard.
 
2013-01-22 08:56:52 PM  
blogs.uoregon.edu
 
2013-01-22 08:57:58 PM  

FizixJunkee: They can't do this during the [warmer] day when most people are at school or work, or when seniors can get to out of the house and to someplace warm?


Well, it says that it is an emergency. Some switches failed this morning, and they probably have them jumped, but they have to take the mains off the line... it's the radiation.
 
2013-01-22 09:00:55 PM  
Crank wanted for questioning.
 
2013-01-22 09:01:02 PM  
"an emergency outage scheduled by Met-Ed."

Emergency...scheduled...hm...
 
zez [TotalFark]
2013-01-22 09:01:23 PM  
Also, it's not like a stupid rolling blackout for the hell of it, they need to shut stuff down for a bit so they can replace a broken part. Since they said 4 hours it will probably take only 2 so then everyone will say, "wow! That was fast!"
 
2013-01-22 09:01:32 PM  

FizixJunkee: They can't do this during the [warmer] day when most people are at school or work,


The schools are probably reliant on the same switch. I would guess they are doing this at nights specifically so people can go to work and school the next day.
 
2013-01-22 09:02:02 PM  

miss diminutive: what's the worst that can happen?

They roll doubles and land on Water Works?


I say let this needed repair go, what's the worst that can happen.
 
2013-01-22 09:03:30 PM  
Could be worse, out here PG&E blows up entire towns.
 
2013-01-22 09:04:19 PM  
it's 4 hours, so people who live in tin shacks are gonna get cold. people with poorly insulated houses might want to wear something warm to bed, or at least throw on another blanket. the worst that could happen? someone will wear an ugly sweater. at least they won't have to wear it outside.
 
2013-01-22 09:04:25 PM  

gadian: Your house shouldn't freeze THAT quickly. If it does, you're probably paying a fortune to heat it and you should invest in insulation. Put on a sweater.


^ This..
 
2013-01-22 09:05:00 PM  
what's the worst that can happen?

They ignore the problem and end up with a much longer, unplanned outage.
 
2013-01-22 09:05:26 PM  
In my house, the daytime setpoint is 68F and the nighttime setpoint is 60F during cold months. Temperature switches automatically at 11PM and 6:45AM with my fancypants Honeywell thermostat.

I wake up at 6:45 and the temperature usually is 62 or thereabouts with an outside temperature of 20F. Temperature equilibrium is logarithmic- that is, the closer the inside gets to the outside temperature, the longer it is going to take for the temperature to drop another 1degree. If your house gets dangerously cold in less than 24 hours there is probably nothing between the walls and the windows are open.
 
2013-01-22 09:05:30 PM  
Residents are advised to bring charcoal grills inside and light them to generate heat. Be sure to close all outside windows and doors tightly to maintain warmth.
 
2013-01-22 09:06:22 PM  
Hey, you guys!

You don't need power, do you?
 
2013-01-22 09:06:30 PM  
images.wikia.com
 
2013-01-22 09:07:01 PM  
They should stick to planning unscheduled outages.
 
2013-01-22 09:08:58 PM  
near zero is cold, but near sub-zero is deliciously cold.
 
2013-01-22 09:11:22 PM  

FizixJunkee: They can't do this during the [warmer] day when most people are at school or work, or when seniors can get to out of the house and to someplace warm?


you mean when schoolds and businesses want to be open and street lights should be working?
 
2013-01-22 09:11:24 PM  
I wish when my electric was off I knew when it would come back on so I could either sleep tight or find a warm place.
 
2013-01-22 09:12:32 PM  
dailypicksandflicks.com
 
2013-01-22 09:13:31 PM  
I'll save my outrage for when the power company charges these customers extra for 4 hours of lost profits
 
2013-01-22 09:14:52 PM  

theMightyRegeya: "an emergency outage scheduled by Met-Ed."

Emergency...scheduled...hm...


That's how redundancy works sometimes. Our backup system is holding, but it's at capacity so we need to bring it down at a predetermined time to fix everything. Happens all the time.
 
2013-01-22 09:14:52 PM  
Adding an 'R' turns an outage into an outrage! Thanks, Letterman!
 
2013-01-22 09:17:53 PM  

denbroc: [blogs.uoregon.edu image 635x476]


You owe me one keyboards and something to wipe my monitor off with please.
 
2013-01-22 09:20:58 PM  
Ever heard of heavy pajamas and an extra blanket?

/Lived through the '98 Ice Storm in Eastern Canada
//No sympathy
 
2013-01-22 09:21:46 PM  

zez: Also, it's not like a stupid rolling blackout for the hell of it, they need to shut stuff down for a bit so they can replace a broken part. Since they said 4 hours it will probably take only 2 so then everyone will say, "wow! That was fast!"


The Scotty strategy.
 
2013-01-22 09:24:04 PM  

nmemkha: [superradnow.files.wordpress.com image 850x330]

70s Morgan Freeman is a heartless bastard.


Yep, first thing that went through my mind too.
 
2013-01-22 09:25:19 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-22 09:25:53 PM  

zez: Also, it's not like a stupid rolling blackout for the hell of it, they need to shut stuff down for a bit so they can replace a broken part. Since they said 4 hours it will probably take only 2 so then everyone will say, "wow! That was fast!"


^^That^^
About two weeks ago some guy wacked into a distribution box and blew out power for about 2hrs. They scheduled a 5hr outage for that night @8 to replace the burnt out box for a permanent fix. Power was out for just over 3hrs.

Plus, who knows, if they leave the temp fix in it may cause bigger problems taking longer to fix.
 
2013-01-22 09:26:02 PM  
Crank all heat sources to 11 until outage goes into effect.
 
2013-01-22 09:27:22 PM  

BigLuca: nmemkha: [superradnow.files.wordpress.com image 850x330]

70s Morgan Freeman is a heartless bastard.

Yep, first thing that went through my mind too.


-1,000,000 for "Hey," instead of "Hey you guyyyyyyys" subby.
 
2013-01-22 09:30:48 PM  
No natural gas heat? Are they savages in the tropics?


This will make some people just crank up the heat prior to the outage causing the sytem to be overloaded and go down early.
 
2013-01-22 09:31:39 PM  

Watubi: I'll save my outrage for when the power company charges these customers extra for 4 hours of lost profits


well/// they are probably going to do that if history is any way of judging expectations
 
2013-01-22 09:32:06 PM  
www.homedepot.com

50,000 BTU/hr wall furnace. $594 at Home Depot. Put one of these in the house, and you won't be cold when the power goes out.

/Not recommended for primary heating in very cold climates, but good for a backup
//Is the primary heat source for older houses in the Southwest, including mine
 
2013-01-22 09:32:14 PM  

Happy Hours: No natural gas heat?


You still need power to run the blower and control systems.
 
2013-01-22 09:32:52 PM  
It's not the cold that kills you, it's having to reset the time on the microwave
 
2013-01-22 09:32:56 PM  
Persons dependent upon powered medical devices: suck it.

/not going to get a generator for a CPAP.
 
2013-01-22 09:33:11 PM  

Happy Hours: No natural gas heat? Are they savages in the tropics?


This will make some people just crank up the heat prior to the outage causing the sytem to be overloaded and go down early.


most natural gas heaters use electricity if for nothing else the fan
 
2013-01-22 09:34:06 PM  
People lived without electricity for millions of years. These people will live for 4 hours.
 
2013-01-22 09:35:44 PM  
t0.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-22 09:37:16 PM  
Bundle your ass up and sleep through it.. Kinda sucks, but 4 hours isn't that long. Your house will have residual heat for the larger portion of that anyways.

If your hot water is electric too though and you get up early for work, that's gonna suck.
 
2013-01-22 09:38:00 PM  

Thrag: Could be worse, out here PG&E blows up entire towns.


I was going to click "funny," but remembered how bad that catastrophe really was and had a sad.
 
2013-01-22 09:38:13 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Adding an 'R' turns an outage into an outrage! Thanks, Letterman!


Thread win!
 
2013-01-22 09:38:32 PM  

buzzcut73: [www.homedepot.com image 300x300]

50,000 BTU/hr wall furnace. $594 at Home Depot. Put one of these in the house, and you won't be cold when the power goes out.

/Not recommended for primary heating in very cold climates, but good for a backup
//Is the primary heat source for older houses in the Southwest, including mine


what powers it?
 
2013-01-22 09:39:38 PM  

ElPollotonto: It's not the cold that kills you, it's having to reset the time on the microwave


I can handle that. My stove is the property of my landlord and the time controls don't work on it. So either at midnight or noon I need to unplug the bastard to have the right time. But the entire rest of the gas stove/oven works so I can't complain too much.
 
2013-01-22 09:40:39 PM  
what's the worst that can happen?

A mini baby boom in 9 months?
/ baby, it's cold outside
// inside, too
 
2013-01-22 09:41:20 PM  
I'd love to say something snarky about how there used to be an age when we had no electricity, and people got along just fine in this sort of weather.... but we've become dependent on electricity to heat our homes, and that's not entirely unreasonable. Most people don't have alternative means to heat their houses, and can't afford to just run out and buy kerosene heaters for 4 hours.

Chances are they will be fine.
 
2013-01-22 09:41:34 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: Happy Hours: No natural gas heat?

You still need power to run the blower and control systems.


Sure, if you live in some fancy palace. I lived in a 3 bedroom house for years that just had one of those wall heaters that buzzcut posted. No electricity needed. If we wanted heat in other rooms, we set up fans on a couple of stacked TV trays to blow the hot air towards the bedrooms and/or kitchen. And, yes, we did have a picture-on-picture setup in the living room. The "portable" TV with a handle sitting on top of the console TV.
 
2013-01-22 09:43:30 PM  

kvinesknows:

what powers it?


Natural gas flows in, the burner at the bottom heats the channels (think metal cylinders that gradually flatten out as you get higher) from the bottom up, heat radiates out the front (or in the case of the model shown, the front and the back (it would be installed on an interior wall for that model), they're vented to the outside just like your water heater.

They're pretty low tech, but it works.
 
2013-01-22 09:43:58 PM  

dj245: In my house, the daytime setpoint is 68F and the nighttime setpoint is 60F during cold months. Temperature switches automatically at 11PM and 6:45AM with my fancypants Honeywell thermostat.

I wake up at 6:45 and the temperature usually is 62 or thereabouts with an outside temperature of 20F. Temperature equilibrium is logarithmic- that is, the closer the inside gets to the outside temperature, the longer it is going to take for the temperature to drop another 1degree. If your house gets dangerously cold in less than 24 hours there is probably nothing between the walls and the windows are open.


Pretty much. I have a timer that shuts my furnace off at night and the coldest it's been in my house when I get up is 58 degrees, and that was on one of the coldest days in the last five years.
 
2013-01-22 09:44:10 PM  
People with temperature sensitive critters like lizards are going to be lining up to sue the shiat out of the power company if the critters die. Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp. Old people that die of the cold are also going to make their families wealthy from the suits.

Personally I think that every time something like this happens the CEO and every exec of the power company need to be taken out and hung. The next batch of execs will make damned sure the power stays on.
 
2013-01-22 09:44:52 PM  

kvinesknows: buzzcut73: [www.homedepot.com image 300x300]

50,000 BTU/hr wall furnace. $594 at Home Depot. Put one of these in the house, and you won't be cold when the power goes out.

/Not recommended for primary heating in very cold climates, but good for a backup
//Is the primary heat source for older houses in the Southwest, including mine

what powers it?


Looks like it operates just like water heaters, no electricity needed. Natural Gas or Propane.

Link

/Paying more attention to "southwest" way of doing things, as I'm looking to move down that way
 
2013-01-22 09:45:18 PM  
My electric provider, SCE, just pulled this stunt on us a couple weeks ago, right before we got hit with some very cold weather. Actually, they'd planned it right before Christmas, but postponed it.

This was during the day, though, so it wasn't all that bad except even the local gas stations had no power and only cold coffee. After a few hours out and around, I took a nap and woke up to every damn thing in my home beeping to let me know to set the time.

/csb
 
2013-01-22 09:45:29 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com

Contrary to those upbeat lyrics, the Electric Company would like us to emphasize it will not be bringing you the power.
 
2013-01-22 09:46:26 PM  
Its a lot better than if you Cut the power for 8h at the day time and its 37census outside and your freezer stuff all get flaped-upp

Just saying your able to dress for cold and it a bit harder to dress for heat
 
2013-01-22 09:46:29 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp.


You can get a single herp? I guess I've just always seen the plural, herpes.
 
2013-01-22 09:46:34 PM  
I went almost two weeks without power following a major ice storm several years back in an area that doesn't typically see stuff that harsh. 4 hours that are necessary to fix something that's broke? Alert the media!
 
2013-01-22 09:47:21 PM  
Near sub-zero? So, is that zero?
 
2013-01-22 09:49:05 PM  
Maybe they'd have the money to refit their infrastructure if they didn't blow it all on childrens programming.
 
2013-01-22 09:52:35 PM  

untaken_name: Smeggy Smurf: Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp.

You can get a single herp? I guess I've just always seen the plural, herpes.


cumbria-reptile-keepers.webs.com

Your joke makes herpy happy
 
2013-01-22 09:54:34 PM  

SuperDuper28: I went almost two weeks without power following a major ice storm several years back in an area that doesn't typically see stuff that harsh. 4 hours that are necessary to fix something that's broke? Alert the media!


Northeast Indiana perhaps?
 
2013-01-22 09:59:40 PM  
I live in a drafty apartment - it was 16 degrees here last night.  I turn my heat off when I got to bed around 1am and back on when I wake up at 7am.  Sure it's chilly in the morning, but sheesh it's not icicle cold.
 
2013-01-22 10:00:08 PM  
Sounds like Corbett and his cronies are doing their part to cut entitlement spending by any means necessary. The Penn State Soylent Green lab is fully funded too!
 
2013-01-22 10:02:55 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: People with temperature sensitive critters like lizards are going to be lining up to sue the shiat out of the power company if the critters die. Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp. Old people that die of the cold are also going to make their families wealthy from the suits.

Personally I think that every time something like this happens the CEO and every exec of the power company need to be taken out and hung. The next batch of execs will make damned sure the power stays on.


...said the person who knows a lot more about herpetology than utility maintenance.  Take it from someone who's had to repair aerial spans after a storm in 18-degree weather.

Utilities can never account for everything.  Counting on 100% uptime for electricity/gas is foolish at best, and not having a backup plan is plain stupid.  Especially if you live somewhere that can get sub-zero temps.

Next time, instead of spending a thousand bucks on a lizard (!), they should think about a $200 lizard and spend the rest on a generator.
 
2013-01-22 10:08:48 PM  
Taking the "A" off his varsity sweater, Letterman turns the "cool", back into "coal"!

*trumpet fanfare*

/how i assume The Electric Company would solve the problem
 
2013-01-22 10:08:55 PM  
I was ready to get outraged but given the details in the article i find no outrage to be had. I just hope they have the common sense to prep everything needed to replace the switch before cutting the power so they can make the repair as swiftly as possible.
 
2013-01-22 10:09:14 PM  
Gettysburg - gonna party like it's 1863.
 
2013-01-22 10:15:11 PM  
The middle of the night is when electricity demand is the lowest. And the power company is actually warning people about the outage so they can prepare.

Doesn't mean utilities aren't dickheads, but this is one of their better moments.
 
2013-01-22 10:20:33 PM  

Jakesta: Near sub-zero? So, is that zero?


Came for this. If it's near sub-zero, then it must be nearer zero.
 
2013-01-22 10:20:48 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: [images.wikia.com image 800x508]


I'm here for that.
People are slow.
 
2013-01-22 10:21:02 PM  

frenchcheesemuseum: I live in a drafty apartment - it was 16 degrees here last night.  I turn my heat off when I got to bed around 1am and back on when I wake up at 7am.  Sure it's chilly in the morning, but sheesh it's not icicle cold.


FAHRENHEIT?

Dude.  I lived in a drafty as hell older house where I didn't pay for utilities, and even then I managed to throw up some plastic sheeting on the windows and some stuff to cover the gaps around the doors.  Because even though I didn't have to pay a dime, damn did it suck trying to go to bed while actually feeling the wind coming out from under my window.

We turn off our heat at night too.  House isn't horrible but definitely wasn't built properly insulated.  It still got nowhere NEAR below freezing last night... and it was -10 without wind chill outside.

Insulate, dammit.
 
2013-01-22 10:25:19 PM  
Big deal. When the power goes off, your generator kicks in to supply you with the power you need. All you need to be ready is enough diesel fuel to last through this major media story...5 gallons should do the trick.
 
2013-01-22 10:25:23 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: People with temperature sensitive critters like lizards are going to be lining up to sue the shiat out of the power company if the critters die. Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp. Old people that die of the cold are also going to make their families wealthy from the suits.

Personally I think that every time something like this happens the CEO and every exec of the power company need to be taken out and hung. The next batch of execs will make damned sure the power stays on.


I think the company has it covered. They let people know ahead of time. About sensitive critters:

FTA: Take precaution with pets. Make sure they have somewhere safe to stay.

Also relating to old people:

FTA: Make arrangements to stay elsewhere overnight: with friends, family or in a hotel.
If you plan to stay home, have extra blankets and warm clothing readily available.


I'd rather have a utility company identify a problem and fix it ASAP rather than letting it go which would likely cause a bigger problem done the road.

The emphasis is mine.
 
2013-01-22 10:29:23 PM  

FizixJunkee: They can't do this during the [warmer] day when most people are at school or work, or when seniors can get to out of the house and to someplace warm?


There's probably temporary equipment in place and I can't sit there for 4 months until the weather improves
 
2013-01-22 10:29:44 PM  
Four hours? Sheesh. Four days - now that would be something to get upset over. How about four days plus you have to keep all the windows open. And no socks. Get someone to work on that press release.
 
2013-01-22 10:31:11 PM  

theMightyRegeya: "an emergency outage scheduled by Met-Ed."

Emergency...scheduled...hm...


Yeah, I know. It sounds weird, but it's logical. Used to do it in IT when the wheels would come off, and the server equivalent of duct tape and chewing gum let you limp through til low usage. Schedule the emergency outage then kick the ssucker in the nuts and fix it right.
 
2013-01-22 10:33:27 PM  
Aheem
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-22 10:35:52 PM  

buzzcut73: 50,000 BTU/hr wall furnace. $594 at Home Depot. Put one of these in the house, and you won't be cold when the power goes out.

/Not recommended for primary heating in very cold climates, but good for a backup
//Is the primary heat source for older houses in the Southwest, including mine


Natural gas?
 
2013-01-22 10:49:12 PM  
"Hey, you guyyyyyyyyyys.....!"
/sorry, just had to....
 
2013-01-22 10:52:52 PM  

buckler: Residents are advised to bring charcoal grills inside and light them to generate heat. Be sure to close all outside windows and doors tightly to maintain warmth.


Don't forget the turkey fryer.
 
2013-01-22 10:54:19 PM  

SuperDuper28: I went almost two weeks without power following a major ice storm several years back in an area that doesn't typically see stuff that harsh. 4 hours that are necessary to fix something that's broke? Alert the media!


Same thing happened to me at the end of 2011. Living a couple hours south of Seattle, had a nasty ice storm blow through that knocked out power over a ridiculously large area. If I remember right it took about a week and a half to get power back in our neighborhood. It really sucks being a nerd like me with nothing to do but sit around wrapped in blankets waiting for hypothermia to liberate your soul from your corpsicle.

/PSE suck balls
//at least we didn't have to worry about the food in the fridge spoiling
 
2013-01-22 10:57:49 PM  
Four hours? Big deal. I'd guess that if they didn't tell anyone beforehand, 90% of people wouldn't even know it happened if it weren't for their microwave blinking when they got out of bed in the morning.
 
2013-01-22 10:58:50 PM  
/All this way and no Professor? Fark, Disappoint, etc.
 
2013-01-22 10:59:01 PM  
The worst that could happen is probably a huge asteroid crashing into the Atlantic Ocean sending up a plume of molten rock and dust. Following the strike, a 500 foot tsunami smashing the shores of Europe and the Americas would obliterate the inhabitable areas of the continents for hundreds of miles inland. The wall of molten dust and rock would travel across the sky and ground causing raging forest fires in the remaining lands. As the dust blotted out the sky, the Earth would plunge into an ice age and all but the smallest species would die of starvation in the subsequent decades.

From the ruins, insects would emerge and subsequently evolve into intelligent beings. They would be highly organized and have a strong work ethic. After several millennia, they would perfect interstellar space travel and invade Sssla, wiping out the indigenous Sakkra civilization. Taking the Sakkra technology, they would set their sights on Meklon and the Meklar civilization.

Becoming aware of the Earth, the technologically advanced Meklars would send warships here to wipe out all life on the planet. After a valiant struggle, the insect life on earth is vanquished and the planet is left irradiated and lifeless.

And that's pretty terrible.
 
2013-01-22 10:59:43 PM  
Let's try that again.

shittymovienight.com
 
2013-01-22 11:01:02 PM  
well, some of us have fishtanks. Awright?
 
2013-01-22 11:06:21 PM  
You know the outage is coming. Just crank the heat up to 85 or whatever and enjoy some time sitting around in your boxers. Then set the thermostat back to your normal temp and go about life while the power is out. Of course the problem with this is in the middle of the night you're going to have to wake up multiple times to add blankets as the house cools.

/our area is so power failure prone I have a whole house generator and propane tank for the generator
 
2013-01-22 11:07:45 PM  
You want to have some heat, but its off along your street. How do you go demand a power supply? Angrily, Angrily, Anger....L Y

It came back after 4 hours, but you still wanna feel sour. How do you look on the road to passerby? Dourly, Dourly, Dour...L Y

You make headlines on fark, and you need a spark. How do you ask a question asinine? Sarcasticly, Sarcasticly, Sarcastic...L Y

/fark yeah Tom Lehrer
 
2013-01-22 11:09:57 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy:
And that's pretty terrible.


What if right before the asteroid hit, Lex Luthor stole 40 cakes?
 
2013-01-22 11:10:15 PM  
Put some more farking blankets on the bed.

/DNRTFA
 
2013-01-22 11:15:38 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The worst that could happen is probably a huge asteroid crashing into the Atlantic Ocean sending up a plume of molten rock and dust. Following the strike, a 500 foot tsunami smashing the shores of Europe and the Americas would obliterate the inhabitable areas of the continents for hundreds of miles inland. The wall of molten dust and rock would travel across the sky and ground causing raging forest fires in the remaining lands. As the dust blotted out the sky, the Earth would plunge into an ice age and all but the smallest species would die of starvation in the subsequent decades.

From the ruins, insects would emerge and subsequently evolve into intelligent beings. They would be highly organized and have a strong work ethic. After several millennia, they would perfect interstellar space travel and invade Sssla, wiping out the indigenous Sakkra civilization. Taking the Sakkra technology, they would set their sights on Meklon and the Meklar civilization.

Becoming aware of the Earth, the technologically advanced Meklars would send warships here to wipe out all life on the planet. After a valiant struggle, the insect life on earth is vanquished and the planet is left irradiated and lifeless.

And that's pretty terrible.


WTF did I just read?
 
zez [TotalFark]
2013-01-22 11:20:11 PM  

buzzcut73: [www.homedepot.com image 300x300]

50,000 BTU/hr wall furnace. $594 at Home Depot. Put one of these in the house, and you won't be cold when the power goes out.

/Not recommended for primary heating in very cold climates, but good for a backup
//Is the primary heat source for older houses in the Southwest, including mine


I guess I'll use it like a blanket since I have no gas line to my house.
 
2013-01-22 11:25:58 PM  
If it's left up to Met-Ed to fix it will take 8 hours instead of 4.
/live a couple of miles south east of the affected areas
//Met-Ed customer
///They suck
 
zez [TotalFark]
2013-01-22 11:27:18 PM  

SuperDuper28: I went almost two weeks without power following a major ice storm several years back in an area that doesn't typically see stuff that harsh. 4 hours that are necessary to fix something that's broke? Alert the media!


South St Louis?
 
2013-01-22 11:31:21 PM  

ATRDCI: AverageAmericanGuy:
And that's pretty terrible.

What if right before the asteroid hit, Lex Luthor stole 40 cakes?


That would be 10 more than thirty.
 
2013-01-22 11:38:27 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: People with temperature sensitive critters like lizards are going to be lining up to sue the shiat out of the power company if the critters die. Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp. Old people that die of the cold are also going to make their families wealthy from the suits.

Personally I think that every time something like this happens the CEO and every exec of the power company need to be taken out and hung. The next batch of execs will make damned sure the power stays on.


Two years ago in Arlington Texas the week prior to the Super Bowl a cold snap and ice storm hit with temps below 20f.

In order to keep uninterrupted power to Cowboys Stadium, the city of Arlington instituted rolling blackouts for the week.

It seems the Super Bowl took precedence over people freezing to death.
 
2013-01-23 12:00:22 AM  
Goddam what a bunch of pansies. It's not like it's going off forever. You'll get over it.
 
2013-01-23 12:01:41 AM  

Dafodude: Smeggy Smurf: People with temperature sensitive critters like lizards are going to be lining up to sue the shiat out of the power company if the critters die. Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp. Old people that die of the cold are also going to make their families wealthy from the suits.

Personally I think that every time something like this happens the CEO and every exec of the power company need to be taken out and hung. The next batch of execs will make damned sure the power stays on.

...said the person who knows a lot more about herpetology than utility maintenance.  Take it from someone who's had to repair aerial spans after a storm in 18-degree weather.

Utilities can never account for everything.  Counting on 100% uptime for electricity/gas is foolish at best, and not having a backup plan is plain stupid.  Especially if you live somewhere that can get sub-zero temps.

Next time, instead of spending a thousand bucks on a lizard (!), they should think about a $200 lizard and spend the rest on a generator.


Or maybe, just maybe, they could bury the lines. I know, it's a hell of a thing to think about. But when I lived in Alaska all the lines were buried. The dozens of storms that came ashore in the winter that were damned near hurricane strength never once caused a power outage. Maybe that was because when the windchill is -70F or colder (weather stations tended to vanish halfway through the storms) you can't afford to let the power go out.

I know, call me crazy but it just might work.
 
2013-01-23 12:30:03 AM  
The power company notified everyone ahead of time for a planned 4 hour outage so they can fix the infrastructure and avoid longer outages if they just let the problem fester.

What are we, Consumerist?
 
2013-01-23 12:33:28 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: Or maybe, just maybe, they could bury the lines. I know, it's a hell of a thing to think about. But when I lived in Alaska all the lines were buried. The dozens of storms that came ashore in the winter that were damned near hurricane strength never once caused a power outage. Maybe that was because when the windchill is -70F or colder (weather stations tended to vanish halfway through the storms) you can't afford to let the power go out.

I know, call me crazy but it just might work.


You're forgetting that burying all the lines costs money, especially with so much of the infrastructure needing to be redone. And since absolutely nothing is allowed to negatively impact profits in any way whatsoever anymore 100% of the costs will be passed along to the customers.
 
2013-01-23 12:46:57 AM  
Lots of great ideas here, Everything from telling the elderly to "Man Up" to putting extra blankets on infants and praying your pipes don't freeze.
Shame the utility can't afford a better engineer to do it the right way.
 
2013-01-23 12:58:59 AM  
O noes! Four hours, how will they handle it?

I won't tell them about the WEEK I was without gas in near-zero temperatures, when I lived in a double-wide. Yeah, that one was a lot of fun. Wear lots of extra clothes and build a fire you whiny biatches.
 
2013-01-23 01:00:46 AM  

Marcintosh: Lots of great ideas here, Everything from telling the elderly to "Man Up" to putting extra blankets on infants and praying your pipes don't freeze.
Shame the utility can't afford a better engineer to do it the right way.


you may be the biggest retard I have ever encountered here, on dark. Congratulations!
 
2013-01-23 01:15:40 AM  
So this "near sub-zero", that's a definite number? Lim x->0 from the right?

Drama much?
 
2013-01-23 01:30:44 AM  

Arumat: And since absolutely nothing is allowed to negatively impact profits in any way whatsoever anymore


Anymore? I'm not sure you understand the point of business.
 
2013-01-23 01:34:26 AM  
Glad I only visit Gettysburg in the spring, summer, and fall, but several years ago I was there with family in February. A blizzard dumped around two feet of snow overnight. The roads and battlefield park were shut down to non-emergency vehicles but every business still managed to open despite it not being tourist season. I drank for cheap (sometimes free!) at O'Rourke's and gorged on pizza and Yuengling with the staff of Tommy's Pizza. Happiest place on earth if you can avoid the f*cking ghost tour idiots.
 
2013-01-23 01:41:30 AM  

Marcintosh: Lots of great ideas here, Everything from telling the elderly to "Man Up" to putting extra blankets on infants and praying your pipes don't freeze.
Shame the utility can't afford a better engineer to do it the right way.


So what IS the better way, genius? Doing it during the day when everyone is at work and needs the power on? Waiting till it just breaks and they can't warn people in advance? Trying to fix a high-capacity power grid without shutting it down? You must have a better way of doing it right, don't keep it to yourself.
 
2013-01-23 01:58:48 AM  

jtown: Sure, if you live in some fancy palace. I lived in a 3 bedroom house for years that just had one of those wall heaters that buzzcut posted. No electricity needed. If we wanted heat in other rooms, we set up fans on a couple of stacked TV trays to blow the hot air towards the bedrooms and/or kitchen. And, yes, we did have a picture-on-picture setup in the living room. The "portable" TV with a handle sitting on top of the console TV.



Luxury.
 
2013-01-23 02:07:28 AM  
I can't wait to watch the news tomorrow and hear the tales of woe -- I'll be sure to post some links, especially if they interview someone complaining that the power outage ruined all his refrigerated food.
 
2013-01-23 02:13:53 AM  
The worst that can happen is a gang of youths break into your house and rape your wife and daughters because they know the power is out and the alarm won't work.
 
2013-01-23 02:20:44 AM  

Fish in a Barrel: Happy Hours: No natural gas heat?

You still need power to run the blower and control systems.


Yep. Our gas furnace has an electric igniter for the pilot light and uses electricity for the wall thermostat & the blower fans.
 
2013-01-23 02:44:30 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The worst that can happen is a gang of youths break into your house and rape your wife and daughters because they know the power is out and the alarm won't work.


Are you Charles Bronson? It's ok, you can tell me. I won't tell anyone.
 
2013-01-23 03:36:18 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: People with temperature sensitive critters like lizards are going to be lining up to sue the shiat out of the power company if the critters die. Especially people who paid thousands for a single herp. Old people that die of the cold are also going to make their families wealthy from the suits.

Personally I think that every time something like this happens the CEO and every exec of the power company need to be taken out and hung. The next batch of execs will make damned sure the power stays on.


My iguana has an electric blanket with a battery pack...draped over her cage, she stays pretty toasty when we have our ice storms. I can't imagine having a bunch of tanks to deal with, though.
 
2013-01-23 03:39:43 AM  

buzzcut73: kvinesknows:

what powers it?

Natural gas flows in, the burner at the bottom heats the channels (think metal cylinders that gradually flatten out as you get higher) from the bottom up, heat radiates out the front (or in the case of the model shown, the front and the back (it would be installed on an interior wall for that model), they're vented to the outside just like your water heater.

They're pretty low tech, but it works.


cool
 
2013-01-23 03:44:29 AM  
images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-01-23 04:48:09 AM  

Arumat: SuperDuper28: I went almost two weeks without power following a major ice storm several years back in an area that doesn't typically see stuff that harsh. 4 hours that are necessary to fix something that's broke? Alert the media!

Same thing happened to me at the end of 2011. Living a couple hours south of Seattle, had a nasty ice storm blow through that knocked out power over a ridiculously large area. If I remember right it took about a week and a half to get power back in our neighborhood. It really sucks being a nerd like me with nothing to do but sit around wrapped in blankets waiting for hypothermia to liberate your soul from your corpsicle.

/PSE suck balls
//at least we didn't have to worry about the food in the fridge spoiling


If you remember right? If my power was out for ten days a little over a year ago I'd remember that real good.
 
2013-01-23 05:58:09 AM  


THEY FIX THE CABLE, SUBBY.
 
2013-01-23 08:24:36 AM  

Fish in a Barrel: Happy Hours: No natural gas heat?

You still need power to run the blower and control systems.


Some are self powered.. powerpile..(big thermocouple).. no fan.. works on gravity.. hot air rises, cool air falls... most gas floor furnaces work that way too....
 
2013-01-23 11:55:49 AM  

Smoked: Arumat: SuperDuper28: I went almost two weeks without power following a major ice storm several years back in an area that doesn't typically see stuff that harsh. 4 hours that are necessary to fix something that's broke? Alert the media!

Same thing happened to me at the end of 2011. Living a couple hours south of Seattle, had a nasty ice storm blow through that knocked out power over a ridiculously large area. If I remember right it took about a week and a half to get power back in our neighborhood. It really sucks being a nerd like me with nothing to do but sit around wrapped in blankets waiting for hypothermia to liberate your soul from your corpsicle.

/PSE suck balls
//at least we didn't have to worry about the food in the fridge spoiling

If you remember right? If my power was out for ten days a little over a year ago I'd remember that real good.


10 days is nothing. I'm married, so I haven't had power in over 10 years.
 
2013-01-23 12:12:24 PM  
Gravity feed may be a little old fashioned, but needs no electricity. Probably a few of those monsters left in Gettysburg.

constructionmanuals.tpub.com
 
2013-01-23 01:19:39 PM  

Smoked: Arumat: SuperDuper28: I went almost two weeks without power following a major ice storm several years back in an area that doesn't typically see stuff that harsh. 4 hours that are necessary to fix something that's broke? Alert the media!

Same thing happened to me at the end of 2011. Living a couple hours south of Seattle, had a nasty ice storm blow through that knocked out power over a ridiculously large area. If I remember right it took about a week and a half to get power back in our neighborhood. It really sucks being a nerd like me with nothing to do but sit around wrapped in blankets waiting for hypothermia to liberate your soul from your corpsicle.

/PSE suck balls
//at least we didn't have to worry about the food in the fridge spoiling

If you remember right? If my power was out for ten days a little over a year ago I'd remember that real good.


Sadly, my memory is spotty at best for anything except video games. I can't remember what I had for dinner 3 days ago, but I still know to set the clock to 6:10:50.

/that can't be obscure, can it?
 
2013-01-23 04:04:49 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The worst that can happen is a gang of youths break into your house and rape your wife and daughters because they know the power is out and the alarm won't work.


I live near Adams County and Gettysburg. Crime is actually pretty rare from what I heard.
 
2013-01-23 10:35:02 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Or maybe, just maybe, they could bury the lines. I know, it's a hell of a thing to think about. But when I lived in Alaska all the lines were buried. The dozens of storms that came ashore in the winter that were damned near hurricane strength never once caused a power outage. Maybe that was because when the windchill is -70F or colder (weather stations tended to vanish halfway through the storms) you can't afford to let the power go out.

I know, call me crazy but it just might work.


Once again, said the guy who doesn't know a lot about utilities.  Stop oversimplifying the situation and comparing apples to oranges.  It costs A LOT of money and time to do that.  In fact it does happen quite often when a road corridor is being completely revamped.  Otherwise the financial and time burdens of permitting, surface disruption and restoration are usually too cost prohibitive.  It's ultimately up to the local government whether or not the utility company will even be allowed to do it in the first place.

Also way to bring up Alaska in a discussion about the eastern seaboard.  You're talking about a far, FAR smaller system in a completely different set of circumstances.  Imagine if the Alyeska Pipeline were to be placed underground through urban/suburban areas while trying to cause minimum traffic disruption.

I won't call you crazy but you're really toeing the line of being completely ignorant.
 
2013-01-23 11:29:22 PM  

Sgygus: Persons dependent upon powered medical devices: suck it.

/not going to get a generator for a CPAP.


Our scout master uses one of those emergency car jumping battery packs to power his cpap while out camping.
 
2013-01-24 03:02:33 AM  
robodogemergency car jumping battery packs

I'm thinking about getting a marine battery.
 
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