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2013-01-22 08:16:30 PM  
Dear Namegoesherespawn,

I did not do this. You're welcome.

Love, me
 
2013-01-22 09:26:18 PM  
Since the NRA thinks this is such a good idea maybe they'd be willing to support a tax on guns and ammo in order to pay for it.

BWAHAHAHAA! I crack myself up sometimes.
 
2013-01-22 10:18:03 PM  

fusillade762: Since the NRA thinks this is such a good idea maybe they'd be willing to support a tax on guns and ammo in order to pay for it.

BWAHAHAHAA! I crack myself up sometimes.


There is a very good chance they might go for this tax. Now let's see if the left will allow deputy with guns in the schools.
 
2013-01-22 10:18:52 PM  
mlkshk.com
 
2013-01-22 10:19:35 PM  
So if the deputy dies in the line of duty, the shooter has ANOTHER gun. Yay!
 
2013-01-22 10:19:43 PM  
"the age of school shootings"?

Nonsense.

There hasn't been a school shooting in the US for hours.
 
2013-01-22 10:19:48 PM  
Couldn't $22,000 pay to put your kid in a school where people wouldn't be getting shot?
 
2013-01-22 10:20:21 PM  
At least the kids won't run around thinking they might have a TUMAH!
 
2013-01-22 10:21:03 PM  
Really?  The outrage is that a cop is being used to keep a school safe? What he was trained and taught to do in the first place?

3.bp.blogspot.com

This is common all over the United States. They're called School Resource Officers, and they do a lot more than police. They also mentor and intervene in at-risk kids before it comes to the point that they bring a rifle to school to try to achieve the School Shooting Tour high score.

I have no problem with an armed police officer/SRO in schools. I do have a problem with every tom, dick, and harry thinking they are  THE DECIDER (Trademark Pending)and believing that blaming the victims mixed with giving everyone a gun a la a cowboy movie is the solution to a problem which occurs once in a blue moon.

It's one thing to ask someone to shoot some faceless mugger who's trying to jerk them out of a car. It's another thing to ask a teacher who, ostensibly, is emotionally attached and knows he's shooting a child to pull the trigger on one of their class.

If a private citizen wants to cover the overtime for it, I have no problem with it. Churches and other organizations do the same thing all the time.
 
2013-01-22 10:21:10 PM  
A fool and his money something something.
 
2013-01-22 10:23:40 PM  
por-img.cimcontent.net
/hope he doesn't lose his bullet
 
2013-01-22 10:24:02 PM  
Or . . .

. . .

. . .


perhaps

. . .

. . .

. . . why not help your child . . .

. . . hire a "deputy" . . .

. . . in their stone-aged-school??? . . .
 
2013-01-22 10:24:10 PM  
Thanks, Laura Lauria.
 
2013-01-22 10:24:31 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: A fool and his money something somethingBronyMedic: Really?  The outrage is that a cop is being used to keep a school safe? What he was trained and taught to do in the first place?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x360]

This is common all over the United States. They're called School Resource Officers, and they do a lot more than police. They also mentor and intervene in at-risk kids before it comes to the point that they bring a rifle to school to try to achieve the School Shooting Tour high score.

I have no problem with an armed police officer/SRO in schools. I do have a problem with every tom, dick, and harry thinking they are  THE DECIDER (Trademark Pending)and believing that blaming the victims mixed with giving everyone a gun a la a cowboy movie is the solution to a problem which occurs once in a blue moon.

It's one thing to ask someone to shoot some faceless mugger who's trying to jerk them out of a car. It's another thing to ask a teacher who, ostensibly, is emotionally attached and knows he's shooting a child to pull the trigger on one of their class.

If a private citizen wants to cover the overtime for it, I have no problem with it. Churches and other organizations do the same thing all the time.

You are one of my favorite farkers, BronyMedic. Only because you keep dangling the carrot or knowledge in front of people, yet, I am pretty sure you know, we don't adhere to logic here. Also, look right below that post. I think you may have an enemy.

 
2013-01-22 10:25:42 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: The My Little Pony Killer: A fool and his money something somethingBronyMedic: Really?  The outrage is that a cop is being used to keep a school safe? What he was trained and taught to do in the first place?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x360]

This is common all over the United States. They're called School Resource Officers, and they do a lot more than police. They also mentor and intervene in at-risk kids before it comes to the point that they bring a rifle to school to try to achieve the School Shooting Tour high score.

I have no problem with an armed police officer/SRO in schools. I do have a problem with every tom, dick, and harry thinking they are  THE DECIDER (Trademark Pending)and believing that blaming the victims mixed with giving everyone a gun a la a cowboy movie is the solution to a problem which occurs once in a blue moon.

It's one thing to ask someone to shoot some faceless mugger who's trying to jerk them out of a car. It's another thing to ask a teacher who, ostensibly, is emotionally attached and knows he's shooting a child to pull the trigger on one of their class.

If a private citizen wants to cover the overtime for it, I have no problem with it. Churches and other organizations do the same thing all the time.

You are one of my favorite farkers, BronyMedic. Only because you keep dangling the carrot or knowledge in front of people, yet, I am pretty sure you know, we don't adhere to logic here. Also, look right below that post. I think you may have an enemy.


You're a dumbass.
 
2013-01-22 10:25:44 PM  
Just a thought...

Let's get back to the rules.
 
2013-01-22 10:25:49 PM  

BronyMedic: Really?  The outrage is that a cop is being used to keep a school safe? What he was trained and taught to do in the first place?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x360]

This is common all over the United States. They're called School Resource Officers, and they do a lot more than police. They also mentor and intervene in at-risk kids before it comes to the point that they bring a rifle to school to try to achieve the School Shooting Tour high score.

I have no problem with an armed police officer/SRO in schools. I do have a problem with every tom, dick, and harry thinking they are  THE DECIDER (Trademark Pending)and believing that blaming the victims mixed with giving everyone a gun a la a cowboy movie is the solution to a problem which occurs once in a blue moon.

It's one thing to ask someone to shoot some faceless mugger who's trying to jerk them out of a car. It's another thing to ask a teacher who, ostensibly, is emotionally attached and knows he's shooting a child to pull the trigger on one of their class.

If a private citizen wants to cover the overtime for it, I have no problem with it. Churches and other organizations do the same thing all the time.


The issue is that there aren't SRO's in elementary schools typically. Prior to Sandy Hook we had them in Middle and High Schools. DARE officers would be scheduled to visit the ES but nothing permanent.
 
2013-01-22 10:25:53 PM  
Barney Fife isn't going to save your precious snowflake.
 
2013-01-22 10:26:24 PM  
this thread again?
/sheesh
 
2013-01-22 10:26:33 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: /hope he doesn't lose his bullet


Dammit! Refresh. Refresh is my friend.
 
2013-01-22 10:27:36 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: The Angry Hand of God: The My Little Pony Killer: A fool and his money something somethingBronyMedic: Really?  The outrage is that a cop is being used to keep a school safe? What he was trained and taught to do in the first place?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x360]

This is common all over the United States. They're called School Resource Officers, and they do a lot more than police. They also mentor and intervene in at-risk kids before it comes to the point that they bring a rifle to school to try to achieve the School Shooting Tour high score.

I have no problem with an armed police officer/SRO in schools. I do have a problem with every tom, dick, and harry thinking they are  THE DECIDER (Trademark Pending)and believing that blaming the victims mixed with giving everyone a gun a la a cowboy movie is the solution to a problem which occurs once in a blue moon.

It's one thing to ask someone to shoot some faceless mugger who's trying to jerk them out of a car. It's another thing to ask a teacher who, ostensibly, is emotionally attached and knows he's shooting a child to pull the trigger on one of their class.

If a private citizen wants to cover the overtime for it, I have no problem with it. Churches and other organizations do the same thing all the time.

You are one of my favorite farkers, BronyMedic. Only because you keep dangling the carrot or knowledge in front of people, yet, I am pretty sure you know, we don't adhere to logic here. Also, look right below that post. I think you may have an enemy.

You're a dumbass.


So, what is your point?
 
2013-01-22 10:27:55 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [por-img.cimcontent.net image 420x400]
/hope he doesn't lose his bullet


You know, I usually don't disagree with some things you say, but this is Alex Jones level derp here.

Schools have had resource officers for over a decade, more in inner city areas with high levels of gang violence (The whole program was initiated BECAUSE of that in areas like Memphis, Miami, and New York, et all)

It's far more effective than putting armed laypeople (and safer) in a school, and far more realistic than "BAN X BECAUSE OF Y" which will never happen in the United States.
 
2013-01-22 10:28:06 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: Couldn't $22,000 pay to put your kid in a school where people wouldn't be getting shot?


Exactly....just another c with more money than sense.
 
2013-01-22 10:28:20 PM  
I don't see what the uproar is all about. Every high school in the area has an armed guard--even the ones in the really nice districts that have 90+% going-on-to-college and above average SAT testing. The two schools in my 98% white and highest-property-value-county in the state have had armed guards for over a decade, and an average of only three fights per year. Before the cops were stationed there they averaged around 35 fights per year.
 
2013-01-22 10:29:15 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: DARE officers would be scheduled to visit the ES but nothing permanent.


That is something I do have a problem with. Blatently lying to children, and then threatening to withhold DOJ funds if you DON'T do it, is perhaps not the best way to keep kids off drugs.
 
2013-01-22 10:30:55 PM  

BronyMedic: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: DARE officers would be scheduled to visit the ES but nothing permanent.

That is something I do have a problem with. Blatently lying to children, and then threatening to withhold DOJ funds if you DON'T do it, is perhaps not the best way to keep kids off drugs.


And how do I lie to children? Please be specific.
 
2013-01-22 10:34:18 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: And how do I lie to children? Please be specific.


When you equate Marijuana and Ectasy with Methamphetamines and cocaine, and infer that one is a gateway drug to the other without explaining to children WHY untreated mental illness and chemical dependancy issues are the answer other than the occasional puff-puff-pass, yes. That is a lie.

It's not a realistic educational presentation. It's based on fearmongering and bandwagoning. And even the GAO admits it's a miserable failure.
 
2013-01-22 10:36:04 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: You're a dumbass.


The Angry Hand of God: So, what is your point?


i.qkme.me

The My Little Pony Killer is generally a cool guy.
 
2013-01-22 10:39:11 PM  
Free Market Job Creators!
 
2013-01-22 10:41:08 PM  

BronyMedic: The My Little Pony Killer: You're a dumbass.

The Angry Hand of God: So, what is your point?

[i.qkme.me image 480x360]

The My Little Pony Killer is generally a cool guy.


I like him. I ain't mad.
 
2013-01-22 10:41:38 PM  

wallywam1: Barney Fife isn't going to save your precious snowflake.


I'm thinking this woman is going to completely lose it if there's a shooting and the deputy she's paying protects a bunch of other kids instead of becoming her child's personal bodyguard.
 
2013-01-22 10:43:05 PM  
I call on all NRA members to support this by paying the wages of a cop in every public school.
 
2013-01-22 10:47:02 PM  

modrogon: Now let's see if the left will allow deputy with guns in the schools.


Cops been in Chicago public schools since I think 92'
 
2013-01-22 10:48:13 PM  

BronyMedic: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: And how do I lie to children? Please be specific.

When you equate Marijuana and Ectasy with Methamphetamines and cocaine, and infer that one is a gateway drug to the other without explaining to children WHY untreated mental illness and chemical dependancy issues are the answer other than the occasional puff-puff-pass, yes. That is a lie.

It's not a realistic educational presentation. It's based on fearmongering and bandwagoning. And even the GAO admits it's a miserable failure.


You are barking up the wrong tree there my friend. In my experience every illegal drug, regardless of your personal view on them, are gateway drugs. Every one. You know why? Because who you have to buy them from. The drug isn't the gateway, the dealer is. When it is made legal, which I fully believe it eventually will, I don't have a problem with it.

I tell them shoplifting candy is a crime too. Just because you might not believe it is doesn't change that fact. The second that the legislature or courts decide something is not a crime I will stop enforcing it. Until then, I will.

Hell, these days are less about weed and more about staying away from mommy/daddy's medicine cabinet. That is where the problem is.
 
2013-01-22 10:53:30 PM  
We could let teachers with concealed carry permits carry their own firearms on school grounds. You don't even have to pay them any extra.
 
2013-01-22 10:53:52 PM  

ImpendingCynic: wallywam1: Barney Fife isn't going to save your precious snowflake.

I'm thinking this woman is going to completely lose it if there's a shooting and the deputy she's paying protects a bunch of other kids instead of becoming her child's personal bodyguard.


Yeah I could see that. Also, if there is a shooting and anyone gets hurt, by being the person who's paying the person who's supposed to be preventing that isn't she just holding up a giant sign that says "Sue me!!"? Her insurance broker must be having an aneurysm.
 
2013-01-22 10:58:24 PM  

vudukungfu: this thread again?
/sheesh


Page hits something something? These threads bring the derp.

Except that I agree with BronyMedic: This is common all over the United States. They're called School Resource Officers, and they do a lot more than police.
 
2013-01-22 11:02:17 PM  

modrogon: fusillade762: Since the NRA thinks this is such a good idea maybe they'd be willing to support a tax on guns and ammo in order to pay for it.

BWAHAHAHAA! I crack myself up sometimes.

There is a very good chance they might go for this tax. Now let's see if the left will allow deputy with guns in the schools.


Hmmm, several schools in my area already have an officer in the school. Of course one officer in a school of 2000 kids can only do so much. But you are right, it's us lefties that won't allow armed officers in schools that contributes to all these kinds of shootings.
 
2013-01-22 11:04:35 PM  
I'm not so sure a rent-a-cop with one measly handgun would be much of a match against a psycho in full body armor, armed to the teeth with an AK-47.
 
2013-01-22 11:06:23 PM  
Unless the guy is off-duty, this creeps me out. Law enforcement officials are on the public's dime and shouldn't hire themselves out to whomever has the big money.

www.salem-news.com
 
2013-01-22 11:07:55 PM  

BronyMedic: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: DARE officers would be scheduled to visit the ES but nothing permanent.

That is something I do have a problem with. Blatently lying to children, and then threatening to withhold DOJ funds if you DON'T do it, is perhaps not the best way to keep kids off drugs.


My Dare officer killed his wife and shot him self in the head when his fellow officers chased him down and surrounded him.

/not kidding
 
2013-01-22 11:11:14 PM  

CADMonkey79: BronyMedic: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: DARE officers would be scheduled to visit the ES but nothing permanent.

That is something I do have a problem with. Blatently lying to children, and then threatening to withhold DOJ funds if you DON'T do it, is perhaps not the best way to keep kids off drugs.

My Dare officer killed his wife and shot him self in the head when his fellow officers chased him down and surrounded him.

/not kidding


So, how did you end up feeling about the DARE message?
 
2013-01-22 11:13:16 PM  

Mark Ratner: I'm not so sure a rent-a-cop with one measly handgun would be much of a match against a psycho in full body armor, armed to the teeth with an AK-47.



Well he has a better chance the a room full of six-year-olds.
 
2013-01-22 11:14:53 PM  
you can get around all of this by sending your kids to police academy
 
2013-01-22 11:16:33 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: CADMonkey79: BronyMedic: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: DARE officers would be scheduled to visit the ES but nothing permanent.

That is something I do have a problem with. Blatently lying to children, and then threatening to withhold DOJ funds if you DON'T do it, is perhaps not the best way to keep kids off drugs.

My Dare officer killed his wife and shot him self in the head when his fellow officers chased him down and surrounded him.

/not kidding

So, how did you end up feeling about the DARE message?


He was actually a pretty terrible teacher from what I remember. Never did any hard drugs so I guess he was a success?

Oddly enough nobody made that big a deal about it when he went nutso.
 
2013-01-22 11:18:28 PM  

BronyMedic: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [por-img.cimcontent.net image 420x400]
/hope he doesn't lose his bullet

You know, I usually don't disagree with some things you say, but this is Alex Jones level derp here.

Schools have had resource officers for over a decade, more in inner city areas with high levels of gang violence (The whole program was initiated BECAUSE of that in areas like Memphis, Miami, and New York, et all)

It's far more effective than putting armed laypeople (and safer) in a school, and far more realistic than "BAN X BECAUSE OF Y" which will never happen in the United States.


Relax, just the first thing that came to mind.

Hopefully people won't cry so much about funding schools if they know they can put some hired guns to work. Had them at my high school.
 
2013-01-22 11:19:39 PM  

ultraholland: you can get around all of this by sending your kids to police academy


No way I am trusting my kid the Steve Guttenberg.
 
2013-01-22 11:20:57 PM  
So when the deputies turn out to be a child molesters they can bring in psychiatrists to prescribe all the anti-anxiety meds the molested kids will need to get through life. And the brilliant part is, when winter rolls around, the psychiatrists simply freeze to death.
 
2013-01-22 11:24:22 PM  

Mark Ratner: I'm not so sure a rent-a-cop with one measly handgun would be much of a match against a psycho in full body armor, armed to the teeth with an AK-47.


Since when is a Deputy a "rent-a-cop?" Deputies are sworn officers that generally engage in something called "training" every now and again.

/deputies wear body armor too, as do almost all cops
//and they have something called a "service rifle" in the car, usually an AR.
 
2013-01-22 11:26:29 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: BronyMedic: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: And how do I lie to children? Please be specific.

When you equate Marijuana and Ectasy with Methamphetamines and cocaine, and infer that one is a gateway drug to the other without explaining to children WHY untreated mental illness and chemical dependancy issues are the answer other than the occasional puff-puff-pass, yes. That is a lie.

It's not a realistic educational presentation. It's based on fearmongering and bandwagoning. And even the GAO admits it's a miserable failure.

You are barking up the wrong tree there my friend. In my experience every illegal drug, regardless of your personal view on them, are gateway drugs. Every one. You know why? Because who you have to buy them from. The drug isn't the gateway, the dealer is. When it is made legal, which I fully believe it eventually will, I don't have a problem with it.

I tell them shoplifting candy is a crime too. Just because you might not believe it is doesn't change that fact. The second that the legislature or courts decide something is not a crime I will stop enforcing it. Until then, I will.

Hell, these days are less about weed and more about staying away from mommy/daddy's medicine cabinet. That is where the problem is.


I don't know where you work. however here in Flori-DUH, the officers told the whole class that if they saw their mommy or daddy with 'one of these' displaying a bong, glass pipe, joint, etc... they were to call 911 and report themselves in danger. You're not getting any respect from ANY parent what-so-ever if that's what you do. As far as your gateway theory, I will argue that the REAL gateway drugs for teens are either tobacco or alcohol, both of which are perfectly legal for adults. They hang out with the kids who smoke, they start smoking, those kids start drinking, they start drinking, those kids score some weed, your kids smoke weed. That's how it REALLY goes, it's got little to do with dealers, the drugs themselves, or anything else it's got the most to do with their friends.

The only physical problem with most drugs is self control, the problem with all drugs are the drug laws and those who enforce them blindly. The world is not black and white and it never has been, the application of 'law' which has no justice is un-American at best. The fact that here in Florida most marijuana crimes carry a harsher sentence than murder just amplifies the absurdity of the law itself. Teaching children black and white thinking, with no association to responsibility, self control, and self responsibility are why we have addicts in this country, they firmly believe, because they were told by you, that they have no choice but to be addicted. I know people who believe they cannot stop smoking weed, yet I've done it, chose to smoke again, and chose to quit again. I wasn't under control of some substance.

Shop lifting is a crime that deprives, supposedly, a business owner of profit; or more accurately today, shareholders who pass the expense on to the paying customers. Smoking marijuana; the act in and of itself deprives no one of anything nor does it give any form of harm to anyone other than (supposedly) the user. From a moral standpoint the two are no where near equal, yet law gives heavier punishment to cannabis possession and use than to shoplifting.

Given the minor effects of marijuana by comparison to say, Alcohol which leads to gut wrenching DT's during withdraw while marijuana withdraw consists of "I'm out of pot, this sucks." To even allude that one is okay for adults and the other isn't or that there's any logic to the legal status is lying to the children. Policies that keep you employed are why I home educated my two children, no religious non-sense but I lovingly omitted the 'USA USA USA!' from their education. They learned the hard facts of American history and as a result they both completed college never falling off the deans list.

Put that in your job and smoke it, because I stopped buying your brand of BS a long time ago.
 
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