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2013-01-22 07:26:59 PM  

OgreMagi: Peki: The Stealth Hippopotamus: There is nothing meaner that a girl between the age of 12-14

I dunno. Girls don't often rape or sexually assault other girls of that age just because of their bodies.

Boys, on the other hand, aren't often taught to keep their hands to themselves.

/sexually assaulted a LOT at school by boys, only verbally harassed by the girls
//school shrugged their shoulders at my mom and went "What do you want us to do, suspend the whole school?"

I hope your mother said, "if that is what it takes."


Nope. I wasn't that lucky. I got the "suck it up and deal with it" lecture.
 
2013-01-22 07:27:14 PM  

KawaiiNot:
My small breasted friends are jealous but in my whole darn life I've never found a single advantage to being large chested:


Here's one, if you're tall and large chested, it's more difficult for gross bus stop pervs to literally drag you off by the hair. So, being groped in public is still horrid and annoying, but somewhat less threatening than if you were, say, 5'1" and 95lbs.
 
2013-01-22 07:27:24 PM  

KawaiiNot: dustman81: Yes please: KawaiiNot: KrispyKritter: namegoeshere: I posted a nCSS in another thread today about my experience as a middle school student visited a bit early by the Titty Fairy. Basically, it involves me being bullied and harassed to tears by a boy and his little friends over the size of my boobs, and then ME getting in trouble for saying one thing back, which the boy took differently than I had meant it. He of course faced no consequences because boys will be boys, and I dared to have teh big boobes in school. What were they going to do, ignore them?

I posted in that thread that life was different in the early 80's, and what went on then would in no way be tolerated now.

I was wrong.

no doubt as a big girl you've learned to use the ta-ta's to your advantage. things seem to work out that way.

What advantage?!? My small breasted friends are jealous but in my whole darn life I've never found a single advantage to being large chested:

* Men stare at your boobs and assume you are easy.
* Everybody assumes you are dumb.
* Back pain sucks.
* Clothes don't fit right.
* Comfortable bras are almost impossible to find.
* Women hate you because their boyfriends are staring at your boobs.

So you Sir can STFU.

When was the last time you paid for a drink?

Or got a speeding ticket from a male cop?

I've gotten several tickets in my life. Got one last month that I had to pay. Why do you assume looks gets you out of stuff?

Next false advantage.


Because we have seen it happen often enough.
 
2013-01-22 07:27:54 PM  

Solid State Vittles: Here's a suggestion, maybe the school district should do a better job of, you know, disciplining bullies?

That said, is there any group of kids worse to each other than middle schoolers?


All my middle school teachers who saw what was happening and did nothing about it?
 
2013-01-22 07:28:07 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: That area is in 'the hood' anyway. It isn't East St. Louis, but not a great area.

Just for science, what is the optimal breast size for a woman? 32C?


For a woman? 34b. For man? 36G.
 
2013-01-22 07:28:45 PM  

strathmeyer: Solid State Vittles: Here's a suggestion, maybe the school district should do a better job of, you know, disciplining bullies?

That said, is there any group of kids worse to each other than middle schoolers?

All my middle school teachers who saw what was happening and did nothing about it?


Middle school kids are indeed the worst. The teachers did very little about it.
 
2013-01-22 07:28:49 PM  

KawaiiNot: Yes please: KawaiiNot: KrispyKritter: namegoeshere: I posted a nCSS in another thread today about my experience as a middle school student visited a bit early by the Titty Fairy. Basically, it involves me being bullied and harassed to tears by a boy and his little friends over the size of my boobs, and then ME getting in trouble for saying one thing back, which the boy took differently than I had meant it. He of course faced no consequences because boys will be boys, and I dared to have teh big boobes in school. What were they going to do, ignore them?

I posted in that thread that life was different in the early 80's, and what went on then would in no way be tolerated now.

I was wrong.

no doubt as a big girl you've learned to use the ta-ta's to your advantage. things seem to work out that way.

What advantage?!? My small breasted friends are jealous but in my whole darn life I've never found a single advantage to being large chested:

* Men stare at your boobs and assume you are easy.
* Everybody assumes you are dumb.
* Back pain sucks.
* Clothes don't fit right.
* Comfortable bras are almost impossible to find.
* Women hate you because their boyfriends are staring at your boobs.

So you Sir can STFU.

When was the last time you paid for a drink?

Pffft! I have a brain and a job that affords me enough to buy my own drinks thank you very much. I pay my own way.


Money, big boobies and likes to drink?

Marry me?
 
2013-01-22 07:28:49 PM  
So, uhm. EIP. Anyone?
 
2013-01-22 07:28:51 PM  
In other news, kids continue to be insensitive jerks.
 
2013-01-22 07:30:06 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: TheGreatGazoo: That area is in 'the hood' anyway. It isn't East St. Louis, but not a great area.

Just for science, what is the optimal breast size for a woman? 32C?

For a woman? 34b. For man? 36G.


I dunno, 36C is a nice happy medium. There is a line between fun and cumbersome. Then again, I don't have boobs, so I can only speak from the male perspective.
 
2013-01-22 07:30:29 PM  
Some men just want the watch the world burn.
 
2013-01-22 07:31:16 PM  
Came for pictures of 13-year-old boobs, leaving disappointed.

/not really
 
2013-01-22 07:32:00 PM  
FTA: The foundation covered the estimated $40,000 cost of surgery for Nadia's otoplasty -- pinning back her ears, rhinoplasty -- reducing the size of her nose -- and mentoplasty -- altering her chin.

Punctuation: how does it work?


3.bp.blogspot.com


Fark you, you slaughterer of our post-Norman tongue.
 
2013-01-22 07:32:00 PM  

Cyberluddite: namegoeshere: I posted a nCSS in another thread today about my experience as a middle school student visited a bit early by the Titty Fairy. Basically, it involves me being bullied and harassed to tears by a boy and his little friends over the size of my boobs, and then ME getting in trouble for saying one thing back, which the boy took differently than I had meant it. He of course faced no consequences because boys will be boys, and I dared to have teh big boobes in school. What were they going to do, ignore them?

EmmaLou: I had experiences like that. Early to mid 90s, though. I guess those boys are now administrators.

That's all very sad, but it should be pointed out that part of recovering from such experiences is to celebrate the things that set you apart from others.  That way you can have the last laugh on those who taunted you.  And, of course, one good way to do would be to post pics of your large boobs in a public internet forum of some sort, and bask in the adulation you'll sure receive.  You owe it to yourselves!

I'm just trying to help.


Here is a short vid of some bouncing boobies. Enjoy.
 
2013-01-22 07:32:05 PM  
Mom will be happy when her daughter starts driving in a couple of years and never gets a ticket.

Honestly, my daughter developed at 11 y.o. By the time she was in high school, boys were knocking down the door to date her. After I laid down the over protective dad act with a couple of them they quit. She never complained about being harassed though. Then again she was never one to let people walk on her so that could have something to do with it.
 
2013-01-22 07:32:39 PM  
As someone who had the whole "big boobs at that age" thing, I know how bad it can be. Lucky for me, the punk-ass kids at school were too busy making fun of my freckles and farked up teeth to pay any mind to my boobs. I just ignored the farks and became a better writer by venting about them in my Lisa frank journal.

That being said, the school sucks for the suggestion. Don't get me wrong, breast reduction surgery is a GOOD thing when she GETS OLDER and has finished developing. But for the school to be DUMB enough to think that breast reduction surgery is gonna stop the bulling, well, they need a little lesson in how bullying really works. Bullies will ALWAYS find something to pick on someone about. If this girl gets the surgery, they are gonna pick on the size of her boobs being too small or SOMETHING.

The girl needs to get some counseling and develop a STRONG self-esteem. The bullies need their asses kicked, but since I don't support violence just give the farks a taste of their own medicine by letting her make fun of THEM for once.
 
2013-01-22 07:33:08 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: Wah, Wah. i was called "No Period Woman" in middle school for being a late bloomer. Get over it.

A "No Period Woman" is a man's unicorn.


Girl I went to college with was a gymnast and had almost zero body fat. She claimed she didn't get periods because of that. I have no idea if this is true, however.
 
2013-01-22 07:33:18 PM  

lar_m: My 33% percentile height/weight 8th grader was was jumped by two guys on the football team. It all worked out - he said he had a knife (he didn't). The cowards ran off. They were sternly talked to and my son was suspended for making a threat. But luckily the principal did offer to "mediate" the dispute when my son returned to school.

I declined, kept my son an extra week out til Christmas break arrived and wouldn't return their phone calls or respond to their truancy prosecution threats.


Jumped, as I understand it, generally means people are attacking you.

Sounds like there is more to the story because people don't normally stop throwing punches mid swing.

If they did actually attack him and the school only "talked" tot hem, go to the police. Keeping your son out doesn't help his case any.

/or am I being trolled?
 
2013-01-22 07:33:18 PM  

pxlboy: KawaiiNot: dustman81: Yes please: KawaiiNot: KrispyKritter: namegoeshere: I posted a nCSS in another thread today about my experience as a middle school student visited a bit early by the Titty Fairy. Basically, it involves me being bullied and harassed to tears by a boy and his little friends over the size of my boobs, and then ME getting in trouble for saying one thing back, which the boy took differently than I had meant it. He of course faced no consequences because boys will be boys, and I dared to have teh big boobes in school. What were they going to do, ignore them?

I posted in that thread that life was different in the early 80's, and what went on then would in no way be tolerated now.

I was wrong.

no doubt as a big girl you've learned to use the ta-ta's to your advantage. things seem to work out that way.

What advantage?!? My small breasted friends are jealous but in my whole darn life I've never found a single advantage to being large chested:

* Men stare at your boobs and assume you are easy.
* Everybody assumes you are dumb.
* Back pain sucks.
* Clothes don't fit right.
* Comfortable bras are almost impossible to find.
* Women hate you because their boyfriends are staring at your boobs.

So you Sir can STFU.

When was the last time you paid for a drink?

Or got a speeding ticket from a male cop?

I've gotten several tickets in my life. Got one last month that I had to pay. Why do you assume looks gets you out of stuff?

Next false advantage.

Because we have seen it happen often enough.


I know men that have gotten out of speeding tickets. So what's your point? You just don't want to admit that you have no leg to stand on in your stereotypical assumptions.
 
2013-01-22 07:33:42 PM  

Banned on the Run: FirstDennis: from 2004:
http://www.fark.com/comments/954924/7237290#c7237290

Ooh - that means she's 22 now!

You have a saved link to a thread about a 13-year-old showing cleavage from 8 years ago?
That is commitment right there.
Pedobear approves.


Technically, that's not pedophilia. That's just scouting for talent!
 
2013-01-22 07:35:16 PM  

KawaiiNot: I've gotten several tickets in my life. Got one last month that I had to pay. Why do you assume looks gets you out of stuff?


Sounds like you don't have looks, just mass.
 
2013-01-22 07:35:19 PM  

FizixJunkee: KawaiiNot: My small breasted friends are jealous but in my whole darn life I've never found a single advantage to being large chested:


I'm relatively small-chested but am not at all jealous of women with large breasts. I have too many women in my family, as well as a few friends, with gigantic breasts. I've seen the trouble and pain they cause. There's no reason to be jealous of big boobs.

\like my itty bitty titties
\\bras are still hard to find for me, too, since I don't care to wear padded bras.


Obligatory....how YOU doin?

/love A's and B's
 
2013-01-22 07:35:40 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: Just for science, what is the optimal breast size for a woman? 32C?


Ask 10 guys and you'll probably get at least 8 answers--personal preferences, and all that.  But as for me personally, I would say somewhere in that ballpark, yeah.  32/34 B/C would generally be my personal preference, though certainly some bigger or smaller ones can be very nice too.
 
2013-01-22 07:36:16 PM  
put her in a minimizing sports bra and let it go.
 
2013-01-22 07:37:10 PM  

KawaiiNot: KrispyKritter: namegoeshere: I posted a nCSS in another thread today about my experience as a middle school student visited a bit early by the Titty Fairy. Basically, it involves me being bullied and harassed to tears by a boy and his little friends over the size of my boobs, and then ME getting in trouble for saying one thing back, which the boy took differently than I had meant it. He of course faced no consequences because boys will be boys, and I dared to have teh big boobes in school. What were they going to do, ignore them?

I posted in that thread that life was different in the early 80's, and what went on then would in no way be tolerated now.

I was wrong.

no doubt as a big girl you've learned to use the ta-ta's to your advantage. things seem to work out that way.

What advantage?!? My small breasted friends are jealous but in my whole darn life I've never found a single advantage to being large chested:

* Men stare at your boobs and assume you are easy.
* Everybody assumes you are dumb.
* Back pain sucks.
* Clothes don't fit right.
* Comfortable bras are almost impossible to find.
* Women hate you because their boyfriends are staring at your boobs.

So you Sir can STFU.


This all the WAY!
/Was a DD by the time I was 12
 
2013-01-22 07:37:50 PM  
bie?

eip
 
2013-01-22 07:38:12 PM  
If she is 13 and only in the 6th grade, she has bigger problems than boobs. I'm going to bet that the main reason she is being bullied is because she has been held back one or even two years. The boobs are just a reminder of that fact.
 
2013-01-22 07:39:43 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: put her in a minimizing sports bra and let it go.


Not as easy as it sounds. I was LUCKY to find one in my size a few months ago. Trust me, they are a godsend if you can find them in your size
 
2013-01-22 07:39:52 PM  

Thisbymaster: Some men just want the watch the world burn their bras.


I'm a terrible person
 
2013-01-22 07:39:54 PM  

KawaiiNot: pxlboy: KawaiiNot: dustman81: Yes please: KawaiiNot: KrispyKritter: namegoeshere: I posted a nCSS in another thread today about my experience as a middle school student visited a bit early by the Titty Fairy. Basically, it involves me being bullied and harassed to tears by a boy and his little friends over the size of my boobs, and then ME getting in trouble for saying one thing back, which the boy took differently than I had meant it. He of course faced no consequences because boys will be boys, and I dared to have teh big boobes in school. What were they going to do, ignore them?

I posted in that thread that life was different in the early 80's, and what went on then would in no way be tolerated now.

I was wrong.

no doubt as a big girl you've learned to use the ta-ta's to your advantage. things seem to work out that way.

What advantage?!? My small breasted friends are jealous but in my whole darn life I've never found a single advantage to being large chested:

* Men stare at your boobs and assume you are easy.
* Everybody assumes you are dumb.
* Back pain sucks.
* Clothes don't fit right.
* Comfortable bras are almost impossible to find.
* Women hate you because their boyfriends are staring at your boobs.

So you Sir can STFU.

When was the last time you paid for a drink?

Or got a speeding ticket from a male cop?

I've gotten several tickets in my life. Got one last month that I had to pay. Why do you assume looks gets you out of stuff?

Next false advantage.

Because we have seen it happen often enough.

I know men that have gotten out of speeding tickets. So what's your point? You just don't want to admit that you have no leg to stand on in your stereotypical assumptions.


This just in: Attractive people sometimes take advantage of their looks; Film at 11.

Also, you sound really angry. I wasn't the one insinuating that you're not paying for your own drinks or what not. I merely stated that men, myself included, have observed women using their looks/charms/boobs/whathaveyou to get something they want.

I'm not dense enough to make a blanket statement that all women can flash a smile, show cleavage, or cry to get their way. Some women do, and you're denying that they do.

That is all. I am not attacking you.
 
2013-01-22 07:43:09 PM  

namegoeshere: I posted a nCSS in another thread today about my experience as a middle school student visited a bit early by the Titty Fairy. Basically, it involves me being bullied and harassed to tears by a boy and his little friends over the size of my boobs, and then ME getting in trouble for saying one thing back, which the boy took differently than I had meant it. He of course faced no consequences because boys will be boys, and I dared to have teh big boobes in school. What were they going to do, ignore them?

I posted in that thread that life was different in the early 80's, and what went on then would in no way be tolerated now.

I was wrong.


You sound fat.
 
2013-01-22 07:44:01 PM  
I grew up in Missouri. In 7th grade, the other girls were shocked to find out in gym class that I didn't wear a bra. Well, I was 12 years old and weighed 95 lbs. Duh. But because they were so hard on me, my mom got one from my aunt that my cousin had outgrown. It was stretchy and had red trim, so then the girls made fun of it because it wasn't "real."

I had a little prepubescent epiphany a couple months later that helped me through that school district until I moved to a less snobby/biatchy one after 10th grade. Clogs were very in style, and everyone wore a specific kind. The store was out of my style, but I found a different shoe I liked much better, and they were even more "now." I wore them to school, a girl in gym class made fun of them for being different, and I realized, "Hey, no. I like these. And I get to." From there I started developing a real personal style, which helped through the big nose/buck tooth/spelling bee queen years that followed.

So, 13 year-old who might be a little chubby as well, you rock those DDs, sweetheart. Or something like that.
 
2013-01-22 07:45:56 PM  

KawaiiNot: What advantage?!? My small breasted friends are jealous but in my whole darn life I've never found a single advantage to being large chested:

* Men stare at your boobs and assume you are easy.
* Everybody assumes you are dumb.
* Back pain sucks.
* Clothes don't fit right.
* Comfortable bras are almost impossible to find.
* Women hate you because their boyfriends are staring at your boobs.

So you Sir can STFU.


Did you hear that? That was the sound of thousands of farkers clicking on your profile.
 
2013-01-22 07:46:30 PM  

Omahawg: bie?

eip


13 year olds dude...

/eip too
 
2013-01-22 07:46:33 PM  

pxlboy: This just in: Attractive people sometimes take advantage of their looks; Film at 11.

Also, you sound really angry. I wasn't the one insinuating that you're not paying for your own drinks or what not. I merely stated that men, myself included, have observed women using their looks/charms/boobs/whathaveyou to get something they want.

I'm not dense enough to make a blanket statement that all women can flash a smile, show cleavage, or cry to get their way. Some women do, and you're denying that they do.

That is all. I am not attacking you.



I could be wrong, but it sounds to me like she's the type that tried to downplay the large boobies all her life. Oversized shirts and sweaters and jackets, nothing lowcut, etc. Having large boobies isn't enough to gain the advantages there are to having them. The owner has to put them on display, jiggle them, put them in a position to be ogled and whatnot. She doesn't seem like the type that did that, but it sounds like she almost resents the ones she does.

/will never understand picking on a girl/woman for having tig ol' bitties, that's like shootin' yerself in the foot.
 
2013-01-22 07:46:57 PM  

pxlboy: Also, you sound really angry. I wasn't the one insinuating that you're not paying for your own drinks or what not. I merely stated that men, myself included, have observed women using their looks/charms/boobs/whathaveyou to get something they want.


Well, instead of trying to put some sort of blame on women who use their looks why don't you ask the men why they would let themselves be manipulated by these women in the first place?
 
2013-01-22 07:47:32 PM  

FizixJunkee: KawaiiNot: My small breasted friends are jealous but in my whole darn life I've never found a single advantage to being large chested:


I'm relatively small-chested but am not at all jealous of women with large breasts. I have too many women in my family, as well as a few friends, with gigantic breasts. I've seen the trouble and pain they cause. There's no reason to be jealous of big boobs.

\like my itty bitty titties
\\bras are still hard to find for me, too, since I don't care to wear padded bras.


Ditto. Mine are average and I would never trade up. You men who think it would be heaven (because of all the free drinks, oh boy) have never tried to shop for a larger size of bra (that doesn't look like grandma's), tried to run without wearing like 3 bras, gone swimsuit shopping, experienced the back pain, had to deal with tops that just don't fit, dealt with any neckline exposing cleavage, etc.

And then there are the small breasted girls who might also be teased in highschool, but hopefully eventually appreciate their ability to wear any top, any bra, any swimsuit, run anywhere they want (in CUTE sports bras, not scary industrial-rade ones), not have back pain, and come on have you guys ever shopped at Victoria's Secret? The world is catering to small-breasted women. Every bra in the store adds 2 sizes. OK that is great when I'm going out, but I don't really feel like having "TWO EXTRA SIZES OF VA-VOOM!" when I'm grocery shopping or, you know, just have a normal day where my shirts don't look like they might tear apart from the boob pressure.
 
2013-01-22 07:47:35 PM  

fusillade762: The Angry Hand of God: Wah, Wah. i was called "No Period Woman" in middle school for being a late bloomer. Get over it.

A "No Period Woman" is a man's unicorn.

Girl I went to college with was a gymnast and had almost zero body fat. She claimed she didn't get periods because of that. I have no idea if this is true, however.


It's true for anorexic women as well.
 
2013-01-22 07:47:36 PM  
Just give the girl a couple of years and she will be Ms Popular won't she?
 
2013-01-22 07:48:30 PM  

liam76: KawaiiNot: I've gotten several tickets in my life. Got one last month that I had to pay. Why do you assume looks gets you out of stuff?

Sounds like you don't have looks, just mass.


Yes, you have never met me yet you are all knowing and all wise. Of course I must not be attractive! Far easier that be true then you challenge your sexist assumptions about women. I shall have to correct all those men who call me beautiful from now on. Thank you!
 
2013-01-22 07:50:27 PM  

Pincy: pxlboy: Also, you sound really angry. I wasn't the one insinuating that you're not paying for your own drinks or what not. I merely stated that men, myself included, have observed women using their looks/charms/boobs/whathaveyou to get something they want.

Well, instead of trying to put some sort of blame on women who use their looks why don't you ask the men why they would let themselves be manipulated by these women in the first place?


I'm not one to let myself be manipulated by someone like that. It happened when I was young and naive, but I know better now. Actually, I kind of pity anyone who allows themselves to be led around like that -- women or men.
 
2013-01-22 07:50:30 PM  
40F, considered a reduction in my teens, but the consultation scared me off. Some back pain, but not debilitating. Nobody assumes I'm dumb because of them. Have had a few creepy propositions to which I've given a negative response.

Overall, I'm happy with my lot in life.

/tittysweat in the summer sucks though...
 
2013-01-22 07:51:01 PM  

pxlboy: I merely stated that men, myself included, have observed women using their looks/charms/boobs/whathaveyou to get something they want.


Have you only observed this behavior from females? (Switch boobies for, say, a muscular upper body) Because I think there might be a bit of an observer bias at work if that's the case.
 
2013-01-22 07:51:43 PM  
This thread delivers.

/EIP
 
2013-01-22 07:52:05 PM  

KawaiiNot: liam76: KawaiiNot: I've gotten several tickets in my life. Got one last month that I had to pay. Why do you assume looks gets you out of stuff?

Sounds like you don't have looks, just mass.

Yes, you have never met me yet you are all knowing and all wise. Of course I must not be attractive! Far easier that be true then you challenge your sexist assumptions about women. I shall have to correct all those men who call me beautiful from now on. Thank you!


You sound really bitter and angry.
 
2013-01-22 07:52:14 PM  

whidbey: The persons or people who made this comment to the student's parents should have to resign from their positions.

Yeah it really is that simple.


It is. That simple.

The point of view behind telling her to get breast reduction surgery is the same as one that would blame a woman's appearance for causing rape: that the woman's appearance stimulates bad behavior, bad behavior is somehow the normal, inevitable, and hopelessly uncorrectable response to such a stimulus, therefore the woman is at fault for being there.

Saying instead that the problem is people being disrespectful of women and that the burden is on everyone to be kinder would conflict with the worldview that only those who have power deserve respect, which is of course the preferred worldview of people who have power.
 
2013-01-22 07:52:40 PM  

randomjsa: Solid State Vittles: Here's a suggestion, maybe the school district should do a better job of, you know, disciplining bullies?

That said, is there any group of kids worse to each other than middle schoolers?

That would require that teachers and administration actually do their damn jobs more than the bare minimum.

Until you cut off the flow of money from teachers unions in to campaign coffers, nothing is going to change.


Why do you hate education?
 
2013-01-22 07:53:50 PM  

pxlboy: Pincy: pxlboy: Also, you sound really angry. I wasn't the one insinuating that you're not paying for your own drinks or what not. I merely stated that men, myself included, have observed women using their looks/charms/boobs/whathaveyou to get something they want.

Well, instead of trying to put some sort of blame on women who use their looks why don't you ask the men why they would let themselves be manipulated by these women in the first place?

I'm not one to let myself be manipulated by someone like that. It happened when I was young and naive, but I know better now. Actually, I kind of pity anyone who allows themselves to be led around like that -- women or men.


Agreed. And I hope you don't think I was implying you were allowing yourself to be manipulated, I wasn't. I know there are both men and women who are very good at manipulating people, so the blame can be spread around. But when I see some guy allowing himself to be manipulated by a pretty young thing just because in the back of his mind he secretly thinks she really likes him and might have a chance of sleeping with her I usually don't feel sorry for him when he gets taken advantage of.
 
2013-01-22 07:55:52 PM  

namegoeshere: pxlboy: I merely stated that men, myself included, have observed women using their looks/charms/boobs/whathaveyou to get something they want.

Have you only observed this behavior from females? (Switch boobies for, say, a muscular upper body) Because I think there might be a bit of an observer bias at work if that's the case.


I have, actually. However, looks are not always the sole factor. A good friend of mine has a housemate who is being used by some dude for her car and they're not even dating. She lets him take it whenever he wants and he doesn't even have to pay for gas.

It's sad, really.
 
2013-01-22 07:56:05 PM  

Nem Wan: whidbey: The persons or people who made this comment to the student's parents should have to resign from their positions.

Yeah it really is that simple.

It is. That simple.

The point of view behind telling her to get breast reduction surgery is the same as one that would blame a woman's appearance for causing rape: that the woman's appearance stimulates bad behavior, bad behavior is somehow the normal, inevitable, and hopelessly uncorrectable response to such a stimulus, therefore the woman is at fault for being there.

Saying instead that the problem is people being disrespectful of women and that the burden is on everyone to be kinder would conflict with the worldview that only those who have power deserve respect, which is of course the preferred worldview of people who have power.


Well said.
 
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