Just as Android is moving away from the iOS look and feel, a new guy pops up and wants to play.


Sorry, I fear that the Firefox phones will sell about as well as current Blackberry devices do.

Aw damn, none of my apps work with the new version.

Based on the pics, I give this until about next Monday before Apple sues it into oblivion.

Cool. Will it lock up my browser for 5 minutes every time I open a site with Flash? I would love that Firefox feature on my mobile devices as well.

iOS
Android
WP
BB10
Ubuntu
Firefox
Bada
Tizen
Sailfish

WTF

iOS organization feels really dated now. Firefox looks like it copied the iphone.

Firefox's ... HTML 5-based ... operating system?

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I thought firefox didn't do point releases anymore.

TheBushwhacker: Based on the pics, I give this until about next Monday before Apple sues it into oblivion.

What's there to sue for?

wildcardjack: TheBushwhacker: Based on the pics, I give this until about next Monday before Apple sues it into oblivion.

What's there to sue for?

Rounded corners.

I've got firefox on my nexus and I don't care for it much

wildcardjack: TheBushwhacker: Based on the pics, I give this until about next Monday before Apple sues it into oblivion.

What's there to sue for?


What's NOT there to sue for?



/sad because it's true

Der Poopflinger: I've got firefox on my nexus and I don't care for it much

Ive tried:

Dolphin
Skyfire
Firefox
Chrome
and the standard Android browser

Dolphin worked the best for me (Galaxy SIII)

Mozilla denies all claims the phone is slow and leaks memory.

Fuggin Bizzy: Firefox's ... HTML 5-based ... operating system?

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I'm glad I'm not the only person who was surprised. Why on earth would you base an OS upon HTML?

Is it really rocket science to build a phone which does not look like a clone of the iPhone? Designers never had trouble with that before 2007.

jvl: Is it really rocket science to build a phone which does not look like a clone of the iPhone? Designers never had trouble with that before 2007.

Ah, I was wondering when the iFanboys would show up to talk about how Apple invented everything.

I was just saying to the family the other day... "There needs to be more smart phone OSs."

Looks like I was right.

/Still hoping that the Windows phones fail so that Windows 9 is more focused on desktop/laptop functonality.

jvl: Is it really rocket science to build a phone which does not look like a clone of the iPhone? Designers never had trouble with that before 2007.

Well seeing how the very idea of a smartphone is that it's all screen, it's kinda difficult not to build a device that's rectangular (because all visual media is rectangular) and 90% screen on the front of the phone.

I'm getting a kick out of reading that on my Nexus 10

Igor Jakovsky: Der Poopflinger: I've got firefox on my nexus and I don't care for it much

Ive tried:

Dolphin
Skyfire
Firefox
Chrome
and the standard Android browser

Dolphin worked the best for me (Galaxy SIII)

I'll give dolphin a go, I dont care for the mobile version of chrome

Mercutio74: jvl: Is it really rocket science to build a phone which does not look like a clone of the iPhone? Designers never had trouble with that before 2007.

Well seeing how the very idea of a smartphone is that it's all screen, it's kinda difficult not to build a device that's rectangular (because all visual media is rectangular) and 90% screen on the front of the phone.

Um, about that. Before 2007, "the very idea of a smartphone" was that it was 1/2 screen, 1/2 keyboard. Very few smartphones in those days were all screen.

MrEricSir: Um, about that. Before 2007, "the very idea of a smartphone" was that it was 1/2 screen, 1/2 keyboard. Very few smartphones in those days were all screen.

I'll grant you that. But I think it's clear that Blackberry was primarily a productivity device meant for professionals and was more focused on being a PDA than the more lifestyle-type of experience that iPhone, Android and Windows offers. If you mean for people to be able to surf the internet, listen to music, watch videos, play games, run funny little aps etc etc.... the 1/2 keyboard thing doesn't really make much sense.

MrEricSir: Mercutio74: jvl: Is it really rocket science to build a phone which does not look like a clone of the iPhone? Designers never had trouble with that before 2007.

Well seeing how the very idea of a smartphone is that it's all screen, it's kinda difficult not to build a device that's rectangular (because all visual media is rectangular) and 90% screen on the front of the phone.

Um, about that. Before 2007, "the very idea of a smartphone" was that it was 1/2 screen, 1/2 keyboard. Very few smartphones in those days were all screen.

No, there were more than a few "all screen" phones pre-iPhone. Most had a handful of hardware buttons, but it stands to reason that, as the touch screen technology matured and became more trusted, and as the screens themselves got bigger, those would go away too.









This one, I particularly like. Sure, it's more of a feature phone, but it does pre-date the iPhone, and there's no denying the similarities in the design.

Mercutio74: jvl: Is it really rocket science to build a phone which does not look like a clone of the iPhone? Designers never had trouble with that before 2007.

Well seeing how the very idea of a smartphone is that it's all screen, it's kinda difficult not to build a device that's rectangular (because all visual media is rectangular) and 90% screen on the front of the phone.

Really? You mean "rectangular with a black face and rounded corners and a single home button at the bottom of the screen, pages of icons with some icons in a dock", right? Because I'm pretty sure I didn't describe the similarity, and if I did it would not have been "rectangular."

Fark people! Have none of you seen a Palm Pilot? It can and was done differently until 2007.

HeartBurnKid: jvl: Is it really rocket science to build a phone which does not look like a clone of the iPhone? Designers never had trouble with that before 2007.

Ah, I was wondering when the iFanboys would show up to talk about how Apple invented everything.

In the Special Android Fan world, pointing out the obvious is being a fanboy. And lurking for someone to point out the obvious is normal. Also, padded walls.

/ No offense to those of you who are Android Fans, but not Special Android Fans

MrEricSir : Um, about that. Before 2007, "the very idea of a smartphone" was that it was 1/2 screen, 1/2 keyboard. Very few smartphones in those days were all screen.



Bam, when the flap is closed, it's a phone, when the flap is open, it's a PDA.

MrEricSir: Um, about that. Before 2007, "the very idea of a smartphone" was that it was 1/2 screen, 1/2 keyboard. Very few smartphones in those days were all screen.

I wish Dell (or anyone else) would update this phone - making it thinner than the previous version. Having a 'full size' screen and a real keyboard is awesome.


/gently pets my Dell phone.

HeartBurnKid: No, there were more than a few "all screen" phones pre-iPhone. Most had a handful of hardware buttons, but it stands to reason that, as the touch screen technology matured and became more trusted, and as the screens themselves got bigger, those would go away too.

I have my HP iPaq floating around here somewhere. I miss being able to quickly login via the fingerprint scanner. They should make those as combo touch buttons and login-scanners on modern phones.

MrSteve007: HeartBurnKid: No, there were more than a few "all screen" phones pre-iPhone. Most had a handful of hardware buttons, but it stands to reason that, as the touch screen technology matured and became more trusted, and as the screens themselves got bigger, those would go away too.

I have my HP iPaq floating around here somewhere. I miss being able to quickly login via the fingerprint scanner. They should make those as combo touch buttons and login-scanners on modern phones.
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*sigh* Windows mobile 5..  It was all downhill from there

moothemagiccow: Here's the pitch

Mozilla says that B2G is motivated by a desire to demonstrate that the standards-based open Web has the potential to be a competitive alternative to the existing single-vendor application development stacks offered by the dominant mobile operating systems

So what's the excuse for not being able to run WebOS apps?

Hey, question, how come my firefox doesn't play embedded youtube videos anymore? Regular youtube site works, other browsers work, but Firefox 18.0.1, nothing.

As an developer who works a lot with HTML5 I am really excited about this. Unfortunately I do question whether it will do well because there are far far to many people who 'know' HTML5/CSS/Javascript who will write the crappiest, clunkiest apps for this and it'll fall apart.

HTML5 is great when done right, but it is almost never done right. I blame JQuery.

moothemagiccow: The Angry Hand of God: Cool. Will it lock up my browser for 5 minutes every time I open a site with Flash? I would love that Firefox feature on my mobile devices as well.

wtf is up with that. I switched to chrome then switched back after a week

Still haven't figured it out. Reinstalled both Firefox and Flash, no luck. Haven't really tried too much else, because I work on computers all day, and don't care to screw with my own stuff. It happens on my laptop and work computer. Maybe it is an adblock Plus issue somehow.

Der Poopflinger: Igor Jakovsky: Der Poopflinger: I've got firefox on my nexus and I don't care for it much

Ive tried:

Dolphin
Skyfire
Firefox
Chrome
and the standard Android browser

Dolphin worked the best for me (Galaxy SIII)

I'll give dolphin a go, I dont care for the mobile version of chrome

Dolphin did everything it was supposed to do, namely, display pages properly, has tabs and displays flash properly. I know of the hatred around here for flash but it is still prevalent. I also use Dolphin on my Touchpad running Cyanogenmod ICS.

Mercutio74: jvl: Is it really rocket science to build a phone which does not look like a clone of the iPhone? Designers never had trouble with that before 2007.

Well seeing how the very idea of a smartphone is that it's all screen, it's kinda difficult not to build a device that's rectangular (because all visual media is rectangular) and 90% screen on the front of the phone.

I think /he/she was talking about the icon placement

Do we really need another phone OS? If it runs like the browser, it'll just be slower than Android with less features and the text on the display will look horrible.

//Posted from my WP7

Does it lock up and crash every three hours like the desktop version of Firefox?

The open in new window instead of tab option been wonky since FF16