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(Daily Mail)   Hey Mom you just returned from a Disney Dream cruise what are you gonna do now? Get arrested on for stealing a pack of cigarettes 22-years ago   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 235
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2013-01-22 02:58:11 PM
Police found her, she said, by checking the ship's manifest for potential terrorists, and finding that she still had an outstanding warrant.

Well I feel safer now.
 
2013-01-22 03:06:28 PM
But we PROMISE we won't use anti-terrorism laws for anything else

/pinky swear, even
 
2013-01-22 03:26:07 PM
Well at least they let her finish the cruise.
 
2013-01-22 03:35:23 PM
Another attempt to criminalize smoking, I see.
 
2013-01-22 03:46:49 PM
Not exactly for stealing the cigs. For not paying the court costs. Small but important difference.
 
2013-01-22 03:46:57 PM
You can tell she doesn't smoke any longer.
 
2013-01-22 04:04:28 PM
What a great use of taxpayer dollars and limited city resources.

Then again, law enforcement is all about crimes that generate revenue and present little to no risk.

You get fat fine from a speeding ticket and there's no danger from the average driver.   On the other hand, busting a ring of car thieves involves actual risk and generates less revenue per hour.
 
2013-01-22 04:11:33 PM

UberDave: You can tell she doesn't smoke any longer.


LULZ
 
2013-01-22 04:12:43 PM
You'd think the statute of limitations would have run out.
 
2013-01-22 04:25:40 PM

SilentStrider: You'd think the statute of limitations would have run out.


I thought the same thing. Why waste resources on a non violent petty crime?
 
2013-01-22 04:28:07 PM
meanwhile, over in Texas we're letting people have shootouts on college campuses.  but hey, we TOTALLY got this woman nailed on that $85 court costs thing from 20 odd years ago, right?  because the Law is The Law!
 
2013-01-22 04:30:14 PM

Weaver95: meanwhile, over in Texas we're letting people have shootouts on college campuses.  but hey, we TOTALLY got this woman nailed on that $85 court costs thing from 20 odd years ago, right?  because the Law is The Law!


Silly weaver, shooters get shot and can't pay fines.
 
2013-01-22 04:42:07 PM
on what?
 
2013-01-22 04:42:33 PM
Why does all the best news come from England?
 
2013-01-22 04:43:13 PM
That's some mighty fine police work there Lou.
 
2013-01-22 04:44:00 PM
American legal system in a single headline
 
2013-01-22 04:44:09 PM

Weaver95: meanwhile, over in Texas we're letting people have shootouts on college campuses.  but hey, we TOTALLY got this woman nailed on that $85 court costs thing from 20 odd years ago, right?  because the Law is The Law!


What Law? The Law that just let HSBC execs off the hook for laundering billions for drug cartels and terrorists? Or did you mean that other thing, the one you have to pay for?
 
2013-01-22 04:44:37 PM
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2013-01-22 04:44:56 PM

SilentStrider: You'd think the statute of limitations would have run out.


It never runs out on a bench warrant.As stated above, the warrant was issued because she failed to pay the fine that went with her sentence, not for stealing the cigarettes.
 
2013-01-22 04:45:13 PM

SilentStrider: You'd think the statute of limitations would have run out.


Debts to the government (court costs) never expire.
/not an expert
//steeling myself for the barrage of corrections.
 
2013-01-22 04:45:22 PM

Kibbler: American legal system in a single headline


No. That is summed up in: steal with a gun: 5-10 years, steal with a briefcase, 5-10 million.
 
2013-01-22 04:45:28 PM

22-years


Where do people get the idea that this hyphenation is correct in any way?
 
2013-01-22 04:46:03 PM
Also, if you want to hold a demonstration in the park, or just feed homeless people, you'd better have the paperwork in order (and trust us, you never, ever will). You want to do some fracking, dump some stuff that you won't identify into the ground, and have laws set up in advance to prevent any and all lawsuits, that's OK. Go right ahead.

But feeding homeless people in the park? That'll get you hard time.
 
2013-01-22 04:46:36 PM
The network states that Hall is unable to post bail at the Brevard County jail where she is held because the crime was committed in Orange County, and the distraught mother has to be transferred.

How much do you want to be that they'll tack the cost of holding her in Brevard county and transferring her to Orange county onto the bill?
 
2013-01-22 04:46:37 PM

namegoeshere: Not exactly for stealing the cigs. For not paying the court costs. Small but important difference.


Yes, but until SEAL Team 6 takes Roman Polanski out of France, all other cases of people not doing what they say can safely be ignored.

When you disrespect the system so openly for so long, you're target A-1. Or rather should be.
 
2013-01-22 04:46:47 PM
What utter bullshiat - ZERO TOLERANCE!!! They could have easily asked her to pay the $85 on the spot or given her an out where she can mail it in - I hope she sues their asses off.
 
2013-01-22 04:47:37 PM

Insatiable Jesus: Kibbler: American legal system in a single headline

No. That is summed up in: steal with a gun: 5-10 years, steal with a briefcase, 5-10 million.


img.youtube.com

Indeed.
 
2013-01-22 04:47:52 PM
If she didn't post bail, I wonder if they'd hold her. Here in California the prison system is so overcrowded that the state is fobbing off prison inmates to the counties, who are promptly setting them free because they don't have space or funds either. If you planned to commit a crime here, now is the best time in a long while to do it.
 
2013-01-22 04:48:25 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: 22-years


Where do people get the idea that this hyphenation is correct in any way?


They probably work for a teleprompter company... or took the reading version for television and converted it...
 
2013-01-22 04:49:23 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: 22-years


Where do people get the idea that this hyphenation is correct in any way?


Yeah, itiods. 22-year's.
 
2013-01-22 04:49:48 PM
What a massive waste of tax payer money, all over $85. I can't fathom what it's costing to hold her for all this time, transfer her, and than try her over $85.
 
2013-01-22 04:49:58 PM
I don't see the problem here. She got arrested, did not complete the terms of said arrest and a warrant was put out for her arrest. Should they just forget about it? If this was a story about how they let this woman go, the same people saying this is dumb and a waste of money would be calling for her head.
 
2013-01-22 04:51:17 PM

Okieboy: What utter bullshiat - ZERO TOLERANCE!!! They could have easily asked her to pay the $85 on the spot or given her an out where she can mail it in - I hope she sues their asses off.


For what? Her being a fark up?
 
2013-01-22 04:51:44 PM
This BS makes me so angry ... I can't even see straight. That poor woman reduced to a blubbering mess ... I hope Anonymous goes after the A-hole that gave the go-ahead to arrest her ... so f-ed up.
 
2013-01-22 04:53:02 PM

jjorsett: If she didn't post bail, I wonder if they'd hold her. Here in California the prison system is so overcrowded that the state is fobbing off prison inmates to the counties, who are promptly setting them free because they don't have space or funds either. If you planned to commit a crime here, now is the best time in a long while to do it.


Good to know, and you're not gonna be happy when you get home today.
 
2013-01-22 04:53:34 PM
Of course, since it's being printed by the daily mail, the real story was about someone buying a chihuahua and it had absolutely nothing to do with cruising or disney or even a woman getting arrested.
 
2013-01-22 04:53:50 PM

The Larch: The network states that Hall is unable to post bail at the Brevard County jail where she is held because the crime was committed in Orange County, and the distraught mother has to be transferred.

How much do you want to be that they'll tack the cost of holding her in Brevard county and transferring her to Orange county onto the bill?


I doubt it.

That's where us taxpayers will get farked. Go ahead, pony up your 0.0003484¢, biatch.
 
2013-01-22 04:53:56 PM

Nick Spiceyweiner: I don't see the problem here. She got arrested, did not complete the terms of said arrest and a warrant was put out for her arrest. Should they just forget about it? If this was a story about how they let this woman go, the same people saying this is dumb and a waste of money would be calling for her head.


Mr. Spiceyweiner, with all due respect, you sound like a douche bag.
 
2013-01-22 04:54:17 PM
If you have some legal loose ends in your past that you think could possibly, maybe be still out there, don't go on a cruise or international flight... warrant checks are pretty much mandatory for situations like that.

Yeah, it was 22 years ago, but if it's still active, it's gonna bite ya.

Take care of your warrants, people, if you have 'em.
 
2013-01-22 04:54:48 PM

Okieboy: They could have easily asked her to pay the $85 on the spot or given her an out where she can mail it in - I hope she sues their asses off.


Article makes it seem like she can only post bail in the jurisdiction of the warrant. Doesn't seem like she has grounds to sue anybody.
 
2013-01-22 04:57:30 PM

Nick Spiceyweiner: I don't see the problem here. She got arrested, did not complete the terms of said arrest and a warrant was put out for her arrest. Should they just forget about it? If this was a story about how they let this woman go, the same people saying this is dumb and a waste of money would be calling for her head.


I don't like that much spice in my weiner, thank you very much. The debt should not be forgiven, but arrest is ridiculous. The whole cost vs profit thing, it's like negative calories.
 
2013-01-22 04:57:38 PM
www.corbisimages.com
 
2013-01-22 04:58:33 PM

Nick Spiceyweiner: I don't see the problem here. She got arrested, did not complete the terms of said arrest and a warrant was put out for her arrest. Should they just forget about it? If this was a story about how they let this woman go, the same people saying this is dumb and a waste of money would be calling for her head.


Well, you seem to think that the only two possibilities are that the police absolutely and completely absolve her and tear up the bill, or they arrest her immediately and on the spot and hold her without bail for a few days in a county until the US Marshals can come by to transfer her to another county.

If you really think those are the only two possibilities open to the authorities, then it's understandable why you imagine that the path that the authorities took in this case was reasonable.
 
2013-01-22 04:58:34 PM
poor lady... still should've paid your fine
 
2013-01-22 04:58:54 PM
Bart: Uh, say, are you guys crooks?
Fat Tony: Bart, is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?
Bart: No.
Fat Tony: Well, suppose you got a large starving family. Is it wrong to steal a truckload of bread to feed them?
Bart: Uh uh.
Fat Tony: And, what if your family don't like bread? They like... cigarettes?
Bart: I guess that's okay.
Fat Tony: Now, what if instead of giving them away, you sold them at a price that was practically giving them away. Would that be a crime, Bart?
Bart: Hell, no.
 
2013-01-22 04:58:58 PM

MJMaloney187: Nick Spiceyweiner: I don't see the problem here. She got arrested, did not complete the terms of said arrest and a warrant was put out for her arrest. Should they just forget about it? If this was a story about how they let this woman go, the same people saying this is dumb and a waste of money would be calling for her head.

Mr. Spiceyweiner, with all due respect, you sound like a douche bag.


I said with all due respect, so that makes it okay. :)
 
2013-01-22 04:59:13 PM

AbbeySomeone: SilentStrider: You'd think the statute of limitations would have run out.

I thought the same thing. Why waste resources on a non violent petty crime?


IANAL but I am pretty sure that limitations occur on the front end of a crime, the punishment/fine etc has no such limitations.

Also, (not trying to play devils advocate) I recall hearing that the information they (the officers) have access to is basically "Bench Warrant, Location". It's not until the person into custody and do some leg work do they find out why/what the warrant is for. Could be BS it's just what I heard.

That doesn't mean that it's BS to use the guise of terrorism to hook and book people who have done nothing to warrant it. The same goes for the DUI checkpoints where a bulk of the arrests are for issues not relating to DUI.
 
2013-01-22 04:59:41 PM
FTFA : A woman is in jail unable to post bail

also FTFA
Robin Hall, now a married mother of two who designs jet engines

hmmmm
 
2013-01-22 05:00:11 PM

Somaticasual: Of course, since it's being printed by the daily mail, the real story was about someone buying a chihuahua and it had absolutely nothing to do with cruising or disney or even a woman getting arrested.


It's unlikely. Chihuahuas are mexican, and there's no possible way the Daily Mail would have been able to run a story about a mexican without putting some sort of "immigrants are evil tax moochers who will rape your daughters and steal your job" spin on it.
 
2013-01-22 05:00:42 PM
She's prisoner #24601, I assume.
 
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