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(NBC DFW)   Texas Sheriff says, I will not enforce gun laws that I consider unconstitutional. Kind of like President Obama with those pesky immigration laws   (nbcdfw.com) divider line 487
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2013-01-22 12:10:05 PM
Good luck with that, Mr. Box...if that really is your name
 
2013-01-22 12:12:44 PM
How deep in your own butthole did you have to reach to pull the second sentence of the headline out of your ass? Wrist? Elbow? Deeper?
 
2013-01-22 12:16:54 PM
"Suck it" is the term that we'll continue to hear over the next four years.

Immigration reform without gun reform?  Suck it.
 
2013-01-22 12:17:39 PM
In other words "I'm a grandstanding a-hole who's had my head up my ass the last 4 years"
 
2013-01-22 12:22:20 PM
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2013-01-22 12:26:42 PM
No, actually more like subby deciding to white-knight right-wing Teabag dipshiats who shouldn't be in office.

Good job.
 
2013-01-22 12:27:20 PM
I wonder if a citizen can sue any of these sheriffs for breach of duty if something bad happens?
 
2013-01-22 12:28:10 PM
in b4 headline "texas sheriff apologizes for comments made on not enforcing gun laws"
 
2013-01-22 12:28:16 PM
media.nbcdfw.com
Sheriff Cliff Claven
 
2013-01-22 12:28:22 PM
What happens if a Sheriff says he doesn't believe in the constitutional legitimacy of theft, rape, or murder? How is this selective interpretation any less morally corrupt?
 
2013-01-22 12:28:52 PM
 
2013-01-22 12:29:13 PM
I'm pretty sure that the Constitution says that Texas Sheriffs get to decide what's Constitutional. My copy has that part. It's written in crayon, but that still counts, right?
 
2013-01-22 12:29:13 PM
Christ, Texas is full of dumb.

Thanks for interpreting the Constitution for us, Barney Fife.
 
2013-01-22 12:29:53 PM
So Eric Holder can ignore the Defense of Marraige Act and that's OK but a sheriff can't ignore certain gun laws.

I don't really care about either
 
2013-01-22 12:29:54 PM
Texas Sheriff declares himself a Supreme Court justice
 
2013-01-22 12:30:11 PM
Yup, I'm better at interpreting the constitution than the highest court in the land. Yup yup yup.
 
2013-01-22 12:30:30 PM
It's good to see conservatives are still not able to grasp reality for the "news" they watch.
 
2013-01-22 12:30:43 PM

violentsalvation: How deep in your own butthole did you have to reach to pull the second sentence of the headline out of your ass? Wrist? Elbow? Deeper?


I dunno, I thought it was an interesting comparison actually. I suppose the only relevant difference I could see is perhaps it should be the mayor of the Texas town proclaiming this, not the sheriff.
 
2013-01-22 12:30:46 PM
That's OK, Arizona is trying to pass a law that will make it an actual felony to enforce Federal gun laws.
 
2013-01-22 12:30:57 PM

HeartBurnKid: What President Obama not enforcing immigration laws might look like


I love that narrative the right is pushing, because deportations are up, and immigration groups are writing the the President asking him to lighten up on enforcement as well as contacting the First Lady asking her to intervene as well.
 
2013-01-22 12:31:03 PM

meat0918: I wonder if a citizen can sue any of these sheriffs for breach of duty if something bad happens?


You mean for not violating the Constitution? Unlikely.
 
2013-01-22 12:31:04 PM

Citrate1007: What happens if a Sheriff says he doesn't believe in the constitutional legitimacy of theft, rape, or murder? How is this selective interpretation any less morally corrupt?


because rights or something. You know, because letting the local law enforcement decide what to enforce or not when it comes to the law is really a good idea, just ask that Jim Crow fella.
 
2013-01-22 12:31:12 PM

Prank Monkey: So Eric Holder can ignore the Defense of Marraige Act and that's OK but a sheriff can't ignore certain gun laws.

I don't really care about either


Yah you do.
 
2013-01-22 12:31:30 PM

Prank Monkey: So Eric Holder can ignore the Defense of Marraige Act and that's OK but a sheriff can't ignore certain gun laws.

I don't really care about either


DOJ has a lot of stuff to do. While I agree that prosecutorial discretion shouldn't be used politically, it obvious is necessary given limited resources. DOMA is pretty low on the list of shiat to enforce
 
2013-01-22 12:31:48 PM
The longtime sheriff posted the statement on his personal Facebook page over the weekend after he said he was asked by hundreds of people urging him to do it.

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The sheriff said nearly 200 people have commented on his Facebook page since posting the statement and that all but a few of them support his message.


GAH! Now I'm all stabby.
 
2013-01-22 12:32:15 PM

lennavan: violentsalvation: How deep in your own butthole did you have to reach to pull the second sentence of the headline out of your ass? Wrist? Elbow? Deeper?

I dunno, I thought it was an interesting comparison actually. I suppose the only relevant difference I could see is perhaps it should be the mayor of the Texas town proclaiming this, not the sheriff.


I guess I don't understand your distinction between the mayor and the Sheriff. The Sheriff is responsible for criminal law enforcement, and yet has sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution.
 
2013-01-22 12:32:20 PM

Prank Monkey: So Eric Holder can ignore the Defense of Marraige Act and that's OK but a sheriff can't ignore certain gun laws.

I don't really care about either


Eric Holder is not ignoring DOMA. All provisions of DOMA remain in effect. The Department of Justice, however, is not supporting DOMA against legal challenges in the courts.
 
2013-01-22 12:32:29 PM
Yeah about that subby:

1.6 million: The record number of deportations under Obama during his first four years in office. On average, Obama deported 32,886 per month, according to an August article by Polifact. That rate is much higher than that of his predecessors: George W. Bush deported a monthly average of 20,964 and Clinton deported 9,059.
 
2013-01-22 12:32:44 PM

Prank Monkey: So Eric Holder can ignore the Defense of Marraige Act and that's OK but a sheriff can't ignore certain gun laws.

I don't really care about either


Wrong. The directive to the DoJ was not to ignore DOMA, it was to no longer DEFEND DOMA... you know, in court, AFTER it's been upheld and affected peoples' lives.
 
2013-01-22 12:32:56 PM

HeartBurnKid: What President Obama not enforcing immigration laws might look like


Why you're being sarcastic you silly pants! This is what President Obama not enforcing immigration laws might look like: Link
 
2013-01-22 12:33:05 PM
Good thing that none of the laws are a violation of the Second Amendment then.
 
2013-01-22 12:33:09 PM

whidbey: Prank Monkey: So Eric Holder can ignore the Defense of Marraige Act and that's OK but a sheriff can't ignore certain gun laws.

I don't really care about either

Yah you do.


No I don't! *sticks out tongue at you*
 
2013-01-22 12:33:10 PM

Prank Monkey: So Eric Holder can ignore the Defense of Marraige Act and that's OK but a sheriff can't ignore certain gun laws.

I don't really care about either


Please explain which parts of the Defense of Marriage Act Eric Holder ignores.
 
2013-01-22 12:33:20 PM

GAT_00: That's OK, Arizona is trying to pass a law that will make it an actual felony to enforce Federal gun laws.


They are bound and determined to refight the old Federal Supremacy fight, aren't they?
 
2013-01-22 12:33:24 PM

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*sings* A gift real special, so take off the top - Take a look inside it's my dick in a box - It's in a box
 
2013-01-22 12:33:27 PM

HeartBurnKid: What President Obama not enforcing immigration laws might look like


What a President pushing amnesty might look like:

blogs-images.forbes.com

"I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally."  - Ronald Reagan.

Please, for the love of country, join us in the real world "conservatives."
 
2013-01-22 12:33:34 PM
Sheriff; who, in your mind, gets to decide if a law is constitutional or not? Does this mean you won't uphold any law until it's been challenged in court? Or just the Supreme Court?

-OR-

You know, we really should come up with a way to review if laws are Constitutional or not. Maybe have these things called "courts" where a "Judge" can be asked to review the law and give this "judge person" the power to order laws they think might not be legal/constitutional to be non-enforcable until he's done reviewing them. And maybe even give this judge guy the power to throw out laws.
 
2013-01-22 12:34:03 PM

BunkyBrewman: "Suck it" is the term that we'll continue to hear over the next four years.

Immigration reform without gun reform?  Suck it.


Whose what do I have to suck? I'm ok with relaxing immigration laws, but not ok with strengthening gun laws. I don't see a need to compromise, as in we can treat them as separate subjects.
 
2013-01-22 12:34:05 PM

Prank Monkey: whidbey: Prank Monkey: So Eric Holder can ignore the Defense of Marraige Act and that's OK but a sheriff can't ignore certain gun laws.

I don't really care about either

Yah you do.

No I don't! *sticks out tongue at you*


Then why does Eric Holder give you such a bug up your ass?

Nobody asked you to bring him up?
 
2013-01-22 12:34:25 PM

Antimatter: because rights or something. You know, because letting the local law enforcement decide what to enforce or not when it comes to the law is really a good idea, just ask that Jim Crow fella.


"Letting" them decide? They're obligated not to enforce a law that violates the Constitution. Frankly, I think they'd be smarter to wait until a court actually says it's unconstitutional. However, sheriff's are elected officials. That makes them politicians. They know their constituents and what their constituents want.
 
2013-01-22 12:34:47 PM
Wait until there is some homicide with a gun (which guns are the number one device used) and they get sued because of it. Oh wait I forget they won't care. Right wingers don't give a shiat when the stupid things they do cost taxpayers millions.
 
2013-01-22 12:34:55 PM
Someone pass me some eye bleach. I made the mistake of reading the comments.
 
2013-01-22 12:35:08 PM

Citrate1007: What happens if a Sheriff says he doesn't believe in the constitutional legitimacy of theft, rape, or murder? How is this selective interpretation any less morally corrupt?


how is selectively enforcing hypothetical tax laws less morally corrupt than not enforcing laws against rape or murder? I dunno. Is tax evasion less morally corrupt than rape? What if he decided not to enforce laws against jaywalking? Would that be as morally corrupt as not enforcing laws against sexual abuse of a child?
 
2013-01-22 12:35:13 PM

Prank Monkey: So Eric Holder can ignore the Defense of Marraige Act and that's OK


a) The administration didn't stop enforcing it; they stopped defending it in court.

b) That happened because DOMA has been ruled unconstitutional in federal court numerous times and a SC ruling is pending.
 
2013-01-22 12:35:18 PM
I wonder what he considers "well regulated"... actually... no I don't. I don't give a fark.
 
2013-01-22 12:35:20 PM

skullkrusher: Prank Monkey: So Eric Holder can ignore the Defense of Marraige Act and that's OK but a sheriff can't ignore certain gun laws.

I don't really care about either

DOJ has a lot of stuff to do. While I agree that prosecutorial discretion shouldn't be used politically, it obvious is necessary given limited resources. DOMA is pretty low on the list of shiat to enforce


Defending a US federal law passed by congress is low on the list of DOJ things to do? I mean, I'm completely against DOMA, pretty happy Holder decided to not defend it. But you're crazy if you think the decision to not defend it was because of limited resources/low priority.
 
2013-01-22 12:35:28 PM
And I live in this dipshiat's county.

Sigh.
 
2013-01-22 12:35:50 PM
This is why more civilized states don't let their sheriffs have any real responsibilities beyond transporting prisoners.
 
2013-01-22 12:36:09 PM
Another responsible gun owner heard from.
 
2013-01-22 12:36:25 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Sheriff; who, in your mind, gets to decide if a law is constitutional or not? Does this mean you won't uphold any law until it's been challenged in court? Or just the Supreme Court?

-OR-

You know, we really should come up with a way to review if laws are Constitutional or not. Maybe have these things called "courts" where a "Judge" can be asked to review the law and give this "judge person" the power to order laws they think might not be legal/constitutional to be non-enforcable until he's done reviewing them. And maybe even give this judge guy the power to throw out laws.


So if the legislature of North Dakota passes a statute requiring law enforcement to perform a body cavity search of any out of state drivers stopped for speeding, you're ok with them enforcing it until it's actually tested in court?
 
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