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2013-01-22 03:50:13 PM

timujin: quickdraw: timujin: jaylectricity: The warmth of the whiskey is what makes it so damn satisfying. Why would you want to chill it anyway?

Not for me, I like the flavors, not the warmth. To each his own, right? And I tried the whiskey stones, they are teh suck. However, I do like this:

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Why dont you just put the bottle in the fridge?

I also like the tiny amount of water the cube releases.  And since I have about twenty bottles, there wouldn't be room for anything else in my freezer.  Hell, the vodka already takes up enough space as it is.


You drink 20 bottles faster than a new bottle could be cooled? Or do you have 20 different bottles of whiskey and your refined tastes result in drinking a different one every day?

Not judging, mind you. I admit a fairly unrefined palate when it comes to booze.
 
2013-01-22 03:51:45 PM
Here's a concept I been working on for a while; why don't you drink your booze the way you want to farking drink your booze.

I'm all for suggestions and advice, but anybody telling me I'm doing it wrong can get bent.

Woodford - 3 fingers - neat. With or without stones as I feel like that day.
 
2013-01-22 03:57:09 PM
I do 0-3 ice cubes in scotch or whiskey, depending on how I feel and how much booze I put in the glass. I bought the bottle, I will do with it as I please.
 
2013-01-22 03:57:32 PM

timujin: jaylectricity: The warmth of the whiskey is what makes it so damn satisfying. Why would you want to chill it anyway?

Not for me, I like the flavors, not the warmth.  To each his own, right?  And I tried the whiskey stones, they are teh suck.  However, I do like this:

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I have that red square producing ice tray, I love it. I can make perfectly square crystal clear ice cubes and there's something very satisfying about having them in your drink. The trick is slow freeze with filtered water. Our refrigerator tends to freeze some liquids that are placed in the back so for 3-4 days they'll sit there and once they're nice and frozen I finish them off in the freezer to get rock solid and uber cold.
 
2013-01-22 04:05:03 PM

Minus 1 Charisma: Whiskey stones??

Ice cubes?!!

THIS is how you drink whiskey.

Amateurs.


Okay, that guy was cool. Pairing it with DARK chocolate never occurred to me.

I've been curious about the stones but thought ice would be better just for the touch of water.

/takes her bourbon neat
 
2013-01-22 04:10:03 PM
i drink scotch, I got a bag of the stones for my birthday a few years ago. Don't waste your money, the article is dead right.
 
2013-01-22 04:15:57 PM

Smackledorfer: timujin: quickdraw: timujin: jaylectricity: The warmth of the whiskey is what makes it so damn satisfying. Why would you want to chill it anyway?

Not for me, I like the flavors, not the warmth. To each his own, right? And I tried the whiskey stones, they are teh suck. However, I do like this:

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Why dont you just put the bottle in the fridge?

I also like the tiny amount of water the cube releases. And since I have about twenty bottles, there wouldn't be room for anything else in my freezer. Hell, the vodka already takes up enough space as it is.

You drink 20 bottles faster than a new bottle could be cooled? Or do you have 20 different bottles of whiskey and your refined tastes result in drinking a different one every day?

Not judging, mind you. I admit a fairly unrefined palate when it comes to booze.


I have about twenty different bottles and drink whichever one fits my mood at the time.  I don't ice them all, or always ice the ones I do, but I don't see why people get all up-in-arms about it.  If someone doesn't want ice in their drink, there's a fairly easy way to accomplish that.
 
2013-01-22 04:18:28 PM

adenosine: kab: Avoiding lower quality whiskey is an even better option.

As you know, you drink the whiskey you have, not the whiskey you might want or wish to have at a later time.


Some people don't drink the fine whiskies they do have. That, I don't get.
 
2013-01-22 04:20:40 PM
This was exactly my experience. That and the visible particulates of stone sloughing off in whiskey (yes I thoroughly washed them first) made them a disappointment.
 
2013-01-22 04:23:10 PM

Minus 1 Charisma: Whiskey stones??

Ice cubes?!!

THIS is how you drink whiskey.

Amateurs.


Now that was entertaining.

/Six times I've ruined my whiskey. Six!"
 
2013-01-22 04:33:18 PM

Renegade Pervert: Stone Meadow: it was along time ago in a place far, far away

If I ever have children this is what I will teach them. I had to learn this all on my own. On the plus side I did develop a taste for delicious Islay's


You misspelled Eisley? ;^)

edip1976: Stone Meadow: Pontious Pilates: Good whiskey or scotch just needs to be blessed with a tiny bit of water. WTF is wrong with you people?

THIS. My grandfather taught me at a young age to never mix anything with Scotch except a tiny amount of water (or a small ice cube if the bottle was too warm). And he was a Scot who liked his whisky. Of course, he didn't heat his house to anything like American temps, either, so the whisky was at the proper temperature to warm you from the inside. Oh, and he also told me to never drink anything spelled "whiskey".

/yes, he taught me to like whisky when I was less than 10 years old
//it was along time ago in a place far, far away

Tatooine?


You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
 
2013-01-22 04:37:17 PM
Flatmate has some plasticky balls filled with water that you freeze which absorb energy just as well because they're still ice without diluting, they're pretty cool and there's no chance of breaking the glass.
 
2013-01-22 04:48:35 PM
I can't keep good whiskey in the house. the sainted bride will sniff it out and decimate it in the worst ways imaginable. She has almost become an ex wife, and ex person a couple of times..

in any case.. I like a nice whiskey sour everyonce in a while... don't worry, I don't use the good stuff for cocktails...

though I do pick up Virginia Gentleman. the decent stuff from the little Bowmans Distillery up in Spotylvania county.. not the rail stuff they make in Baltimore. my favorite "mixing whiskey"

I make a simple syrup.. 2:1 ratio.. 2 cups sugar, one cup water. once the sugar is dissolved, Boil for an additional 2-3 minutes until it takes on a slight golden hue.

time for mixing.. juice out a lemon. if you have access to Meyer lemons all the better.. sweeter, very nice, kinda like tiny little grapefruit. but lemony, not grapefruity if you wrap your mind around that...
okay.. a meyer lemon is to a yellow lemon, like a Key lime is to a green lime.. got it?

a regular lemon is fine though, just though I would point that out..

so juice that farker.

1 ounce of Simple syrup, the juice of one lemon. and a jigger of whiskey. give it a stir in a rocks glass with ice, top with a splash of soda if desired. Now you have a nice hand crafted whiskey sour.

Any cocktail is vastly improved by doing it from scratch and using fresh ingredients.

use decent booze for a cocktail, drink the good stuff neat to your preference, save the rot gut for your friendly neighborhood wino.

make your own grenadine! use the 2:1 SS ratio but use pomegranate juice instead of water! and never forget that adding grenadine to cola does NOT make a Cherry coke.. it makes a Roy Roger, add it to sprite, you make a Shirley Temple. if you want to make a cherry coke or sprite, use Maraschino cherry brine.
 
2013-01-22 04:53:24 PM

Cerebral Knievel: in any case.. I like a nice whiskey sour everyonce in a while... don't worry, I don't use the good stuff for cocktails...


no reason you should, you need something a little "rougher" to stand up to the sour.
 
2013-01-22 04:58:58 PM

pute kisses like a man: i didn't really pay close attention to the article, but, here are my unsolicited thoughts:

why?

many whiskeys open up with a little water. this is why an ice cube is great. it chills the drink and slowly releases water, thus constantly opening the whiskey. some barrel/cask strength whiskeys really enjoy a little water

if you want it neat, you should probably drink it without chilling it, let the warmth of your hand alter the aroma in the glass and open up the bouquet that way.

finally, i don't care what these things are made of, but I am almost positive that they taste like something. last time i chewed on stones and steel i didn't like it. sounds like a bad idea.


I agree on the taste. I got some of the stones as a gift at some point--tried them on some (middling) scotch and some (decent) bourbon, and felt like there was a weird extra flavor.
 
2013-01-22 04:59:13 PM

WayToBlue: That and the visible particulates of stone sloughing off in whiskey


You're not supposed to use rocks from your backyard... :P

I received a bag of whisky stones as a gift a couple years ago. My experience has been that it depends on the label. If it's something you'd drink neat (Glenrothes Alba or Cragganmore 12), then the stones work--they lower the temp of the first few sips and that does improve the experience. Any dram that shows improvement with a small splash of water, or a very minimal addition of ice, then drink it that way.

As pointed out earlier, it's your bottle. Enjoy it however you would.


/However, putting anything carbonated in fine Scotch deserves a shillelagh to the boys.
//Just sayin'
 
2013-01-22 05:03:13 PM

PanicMan: costermonger: My fridge has a built in icemaker. It makes relatively small icecubes. I've found that one cube in the glass is just about the perfect amount of cooling (lower than room temperature, but not cold) and water for most of the scotch I like.

This made me a happy guy when I first bought the fridge.

I also prefer one cube. That little bit of water gives you some nice flavor variations.


water? You mean like... from the toilet?
 
2013-01-22 05:12:03 PM

praxcelis: WayToBlue: ***snip***


/However, putting anything carbonated in fine Scotch deserves a shillelagh to the boys.
//Just sayin'


What if I wait for the Mt. Dew to go flat first? Is it ok then?
 
2013-01-22 05:14:16 PM
An insulated sack of dry ice costs a few bucks and will keep for weeks in your freezer. Just a smidge of it will chill your whiskey nicely with no dilution.

And no, it won't carbonate it. (Although that might be pretty tasty. If you have a home carbonation thingy and some cheap vodak, try carbonating it. You might not like the taste, but a fizzy shot is very different from a regular one.)

Parks and Recreation had a bit about "molecular mixology" last week. Pretty funny. "This is a sort of play on scotch. It's a whiskey-infused lotion!" But seriously, we should get on that. Better living through chemistry and all that.

/"If you don't like the scotch, they have a vodka that's served in the form of a flash of light."
 
2013-01-22 05:16:05 PM

roc6783: praxcelis: WayToBlue: ***snip***


/However, putting anything carbonated in fine Scotch deserves a shillelagh to the boys.
//Just sayin'

What if I wait for the Mt. Dew to go flat first? Is it ok then?


A balsa wood shillelagh, then. With a good golf swing.


/I mix my drinks better than my metaphors, clearly
 
2013-01-22 05:17:20 PM
Put one in a single stone in a glass of 18 year old Glenlivet last night. Chilled it just a little, probably 50 degrees.
 
2013-01-22 05:18:23 PM
50 degrees, not 50 less than when I started.
 
2013-01-22 05:18:56 PM
did anyone expect cold rocks to chill a liquid as much as ice?

ice melting in your glass is an endothermic reaction, one that draws in heat from its surroundings. For this reason, a stone the same size and shape and temperature as an icecube will simply not be able to cool the liquid nearly as much.

that very diluting you hope to avoid is what makes it so cold in the first place!
 
2013-01-22 05:40:54 PM
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2013-01-22 06:39:50 PM

quickdraw: timujin: jaylectricity: The warmth of the whiskey is what makes it so damn satisfying. Why would you want to chill it anyway?

Not for me, I like the flavors, not the warmth.  To each his own, right?  And I tried the whiskey stones, they are teh suck.  However, I do like this:

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Why dont you just put the bottle in the fridge?


That's exactly what I was wondering. If I am drinking a wine that's supposed to be cool put it in the fridge, if I'm drinking vodka I pull it out of the freezer. Why the fark are people still trying to figure out how to get ice cubes to not do with they are going to do and complain that stones don't do what ice cubes do right enough?

I'm sure there is some whiskey snob answer to all of this.
 
2013-01-22 06:46:31 PM

zinethar: Here's a concept I been working on for a while; why don't you drink your booze the way you want to farking drink your booze.

I'm all for suggestions and advice, but anybody telling me I'm doing it wrong can get bent.

Woodford - 3 fingers - neat. With or without stones as I feel like that day.


I like you; I could have a drink with you.
 
2013-01-22 06:51:27 PM

Qwertyette: PanicMan: costermonger: My fridge has a built in icemaker. It makes relatively small icecubes. I've found that one cube in the glass is just about the perfect amount of cooling (lower than room temperature, but not cold) and water for most of the scotch I like.

This made me a happy guy when I first bought the fridge.

I also prefer one cube. That little bit of water gives you some nice flavor variations.

water? You mean like... from the toilet?


I don't think we have time for a latte right now
 
2013-01-22 07:16:51 PM

jaylectricity: The warmth of the whiskey is what makes it so damn satisfying. Why would you want to chill it anyway?


Yes, a mouthful of luke-warm solvent. Yummy!
 
2013-01-22 07:21:03 PM
Specific heat, how does it work?
 
2013-01-22 07:40:39 PM

Cerebral Knievel: I can't keep good whiskey in the house. the sainted bride will sniff it out and decimate it in the worst ways imaginable.


Damn, that bites. I just came through a very, VERY poor period in my life, and I still managed to not dip into the really good stuff. I opened a red, white, and blue bottle of Maker's for the 2008 Presidential election, and finished it on Election Night 2012. I have a bottle of Willett Reserve that I've poured four glasses from- one each for me, my mother, my sister, and a good friend.

The cheap plastic handles of vodka that I could pick up for $10.80? Yeah, those got destroyed. But I always managed to hold on to the really good stuff.
 
2013-01-22 08:38:07 PM
Qwertyette:

water? You mean like... from the toilet?

As opposed to the brawndo that is the frozen Mt. Dew cubes to flavor the whiskey? Does whiskey really need electrolytes?
 
2013-01-22 08:42:26 PM

harleyquinnical: Qwertyette:

water? You mean like... from the toilet?

As opposed to the brawndo that is the frozen Mt. Dew cubes to flavor the whiskey? Does whiskey really need electrolytes?


Of course, it's what whiskey craves.
 
2013-01-22 09:00:23 PM

timujin: Cerebral Knievel: in any case.. I like a nice whiskey sour everyonce in a while... don't worry, I don't use the good stuff for cocktails...

no reason you should, you need something a little "rougher" to stand up to the sour.


exactly.. that's why like the VA gentleman.. decent enough to stand on its own, but not so special as where I would feel bad to use it as the foundation in a good cocktail. sours, old fashioned's, juleps, Manhattans. It's a fine, FINE whiskey for all those drinks.

I'm not a bartender,

I'm a brewer,

But, as a brewer, I hang out with a lot of Bartenders, and those bartenders know, that I enjoy a quality hand crafted.cocktail when I'm not on duty to help upsell the beer I help make.

I make it, they sling it.. and we swap stories and recipes. it's a wonderful relationship really.

Gonz: Cerebral Knievel: I can't keep good whiskey in the house. the sainted bride will sniff it out and decimate it in the worst ways imaginable.

Damn, that bites. I just came through a very, VERY poor period in my life, and I still managed to not dip into the really good stuff. I opened a red, white, and blue bottle of Maker's for the 2008 Presidential election, and finished it on Election Night 2012. I have a bottle of Willett Reserve that I've poured four glasses from- one each for me, my mother, my sister, and a good friend.

The cheap plastic handles of vodka that I could pick up for $10.80? Yeah, those got destroyed. But I always managed to hold on to the really good stuff.


I've mostly broken her of bad habits.. but I'm still shy of keeping the "the good stuff" around. the absinthe had her wired up, then out of commission for a half a week.
 
2013-01-22 09:09:04 PM
Who puts ketchup on hot dogs?

Everyone knows you're not supposed to, for any reason ever, eat hot dogs.
 
2013-01-22 09:43:49 PM

Gonz: Cerebral Knievel: I can't keep good whiskey in the house. the sainted bride will sniff it out and decimate it in the worst ways imaginable.

Damn, that bites. I just came through a very, VERY poor period in my life, and I still managed to not dip into the really good stuff. I opened a red, white, and blue bottle of Maker's for the 2008 Presidential election, and finished it on Election Night 2012. I have a bottle of Willett Reserve that I've poured four glasses from- one each for me, my mother, my sister, and a good friend.

The cheap plastic handles of vodka that I could pick up for $10.80? Yeah, those got destroyed. But I always managed to hold on to the really good stuff.


I bought one each of the Democrat (blue, white, red) and Republican (red, white, blue) bottles of Maker's in 2008. Both still unopened. I think I'll wait to drink them until Dems and Repubs come together and solve the current financial crisis (and sing kumbaya). So: when I die there will very at least be two bottles available for my wake. (Should be enough whiskey to lure at least a bum or two off the street to celebrate my life.) I just got out of a poor period last year... And I just found out that I'm most likely headed back there--the company I work for stiffed me for half of my paycheck on January 4th and fired me. Then they texted me on January 5th and said they needed me to work an 18 hour job and I'm not fired, they found a new client. (I don't get paid by the hour.) Right now they owe me $6K for work going back to September.

Really want to drink that whiskey.
 
2013-01-22 09:58:46 PM

jigger: Who puts ketchup on hot dogs?

Everyone knows you're not supposed to, for any reason ever, eat hot dogs.


Now: catsup in whiskey, there's the rub.
 
2013-01-22 10:38:01 PM

costermonger: My fridge has a built in icemaker. It makes relatively small icecubes. I've found that one cube in the glass is just about the perfect amount of cooling (lower than room temperature, but not cold) and water for most of the scotch I like.

This made me a happy guy when I first bought the fridge.


Amen to this. I'm a big fan of rye whiskey, just one ice cube. Bring the temp down a touch and melts slightly add a bit of water all by itself. Mmmmm. I think I'll go pour myself a fourth right now, I'm worth it :-)
 
2013-01-22 10:51:12 PM

Nabb1: jaylectricity: The warmth of the whiskey is what makes it so damn satisfying. Why would you want to chill it anyway?

I generally drink mine neat, but it depends on the whiskey.  Some Scotches have some flavors and aromas locked up that are released when you add a small amount of water or ice (which in and of itself has led to a cottage industry of distilleries selling water for you to make your own ice cubes from the same water source they use for the whiskey).  Some other whiskeys have flavors that become more nuanced when chilled, allowing them to tone down and let some of the other character come through.

I drink a lot of bourbon and prefer it neat, but occasionally I like it on the rocks when the weather is really hot.  The stones are okay.  A couple of large ice cubes work fine for me as well.


This is exactly right. Yes, pooring good spirits over the same amount of ice you use in a Coke is a waste, but one ice cube for me has made some of my favorites even better.
 
2013-01-22 11:10:35 PM

gmacbeth: Scotch is best with just a touch of water. It takes away a bit of the bite and releases the flavor.



^^^^^
 
2013-01-22 11:38:06 PM
Motherfarker!!! Is there nothing that we can just eat or drink without being frowned on by the hordes of FARK elite?

/slams Johnny walker blue bomb and cleanses palette with tang...
 
2013-01-22 11:58:53 PM

Cythraul: Minus 1 Charisma: Pontious Pilates: Good whiskey or scotch just needs to be blessed with a tiny bit of water. WTF is wrong with you people?

This.

This thread is full of people who put ketchup on hot dogs.

You're not supposed to put ketchup on hot dogs?


Once we reached Peak Sriracha, there was no going back.
 
2013-01-23 12:17:17 AM
 
2013-01-23 12:23:16 AM
You really can't taste all the awesome that is blended aged unless you add water to it. I wouldn't insist that adding ice is the only way to chill it... the metal cubes work but far far better are stainless bearings or stainless washers given two bends and strung along on fishing line.

The thought of putting actual stone in a SOLVENT is very dumb.

Three or four 15mm stainless marbles are also FUN in the drink as long as you're not so drunk that you choke on them.
 
2013-01-23 01:40:00 AM

calm like a bomb: There is a much easier and cost effective solution that thus far I have found works best with Macallan 25 Year Old: Take an ice cube tray, and instead of water, fill it with Mt. Dew. Freeze for four hours, add a few cubes, and voila. Perfectly chilled scotch.


If I may borrow a quote from The Duke himself: "Why, ya fresh kid I oughtta belt ya!"

The Boobies about Mountain Dew cubes was bad enough. Yours positively made me cringe even knowing you were trolling. You cheeky bastard.
 
2013-01-23 09:04:37 AM
I prefer to drink my whiskey from the navel of a $1,000 a night hooker.
 
2013-01-23 09:21:57 AM

Greymalkin: Peasants


Wow, I did not think this thread could get any douchier, but I was very wrong.
 
2013-01-23 11:14:12 AM

Cerebral Knievel: 1 ounce of Simple syrup, the juice of one lemon. and a jigger of whiskey. give it a stir in a rocks glass with ice, top with a splash of soda if desired. Now you have a nice hand crafted whiskey sour.


Shake with a tsp of egg white and no ice, then shake again over ice. You will absolutely not be disappointed. http://www.smallscreennetwork.com/video/34/cocktail_spirit_whiskey_so u r/
 
2013-01-23 11:22:57 AM

quickdraw: timujin: jaylectricity: The warmth of the whiskey is what makes it so damn satisfying. Why would you want to chill it anyway?

Not for me, I like the flavors, not the warmth.  To each his own, right?  And I tried the whiskey stones, they are teh suck.  However, I do like this:

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 175x289]

Why dont you just put the bottle in the fridge?


Why don't you put it in the freezer? It won't freeze.
 
2013-01-23 01:39:01 PM

Red_Fox: quickdraw: timujin: jaylectricity: The warmth of the whiskey is what makes it so damn satisfying. Why would you want to chill it anyway?

Not for me, I like the flavors, not the warmth. To each his own, right? And I tried the whiskey stones, they are teh suck. However, I do like this:

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 175x289]

Why dont you just put the bottle in the fridge?

Why don't you put it in the freezer? It won't freeze.


Space. And I like it with ice.  That's the way, uh huh, uh huh, I like it.
 
2013-01-23 02:55:38 PM

pjfry: Cerebral Knievel: 1 ounce of Simple syrup, the juice of one lemon. and a jigger of whiskey. give it a stir in a rocks glass with ice, top with a splash of soda if desired. Now you have a nice hand crafted whiskey sour.

Shake with a tsp of egg white and no ice, then shake again over ice. You will absolutely not be disappointed. http://www.smallscreennetwork.com/video/34/cocktail_spirit_whiskey_so u r/


Thanks for that, and the link, very interesting! I'm going to give that a try tonight.
 
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