Smeggy Smurf: Like my ex-wife who uses the "don't be vain" to justify ballooning up to around 450lbs. In a way she's right. She's not enticing men into lustful thoughts.
EddieWearsUnderoos: Your sound, rational logic is not welcome here, good sir./but I'll subscribe to your newsletter
Cymbal: I don't love anyone unless we are blood related or we swap bodily fluids on a daily basis. Everyone else is just strangers when you get right down to it.
t3knomanser: We are social animals, and we are inherently compassionate and kind to our peers.
skipjack: It's not more honest to ridicule those that disagree with you, it's a response by someone insecure in their own beliefs.
germ78: Frank Zappa - Dumb All OverWhoever we are, wherever we're from, we shoulda noticed by now our behaviour is dumbAnd if our chances expect to improve it's gonna take a lot more than tryin' to remove the other race or the other whatever from the face of the planet altogetherThey call it "The Earth" which is a dumb kinda name but they named it right 'cause we behave the sameWe are dumb all overDumb all over, yes we are, dumb all over, near and far, dumb all over, black 'n white, people, we is not wrapped tightAnd nerds on the left, nerds on the rightReligious fanatics on the air every night, sayin' the bible tells the story and makes the details sound real gory about what to do if the geeks over there don't believe in the book we got over hereYou can't run a race without no feetAnd pretty soon there won't be no street for dummies to jog on or doggies to dog onReligious fanatics can make it be all goneI mean it won't blow up and disappear, it'll just look ugly for a thousand yearsYou can't run a country by a book of religionNot by a heap or a lump or a smidgeon of foolish rules of ancient date, designed to make you all feel great while you fold, spindle and mutilate those unbelievers from a neighbouring stateTo arms, to armsHooray! That's great, two legs ain't badUnless there's a crate they ship the parts to mama inFor souvenirs: two ears (Get down)Not his, not hers but what the heyThe good book says, "It's gotta be that way"But their book says, "Revenge the crusades"With whips 'n chains and hand grenadesTwo arms, two armsHave another and anotherOur Cod says, "There ain't no other"Our Cod says, "It's all ok"Our god says "This is the way"It says in the book, "Burn and destroy"And repent and redeem and revenge and deploy and rumble thee forth to the land of the unbelieving scum on the other side'Cause they don't go for what's in the book and that makes 'em badSo verily we must choppeth them up and stompeth them downOr rent a nice French bomb to poof them out of existence while leaving their real estate just where we need it to use again for temples in which to praise our god, 'cause he can really take care of businessAnd when his humble TV servant with humble white hair and humble glasses and a nice brown suit and maybe a blonde wife who takes phone calls, tells us our god says it's ok to do this stuff, then we gotta do it'Cause if we don't do it we ain't "Gwine up to hebbin"Depending on which book you're using at the timeCan't use theirs, it don't work, it's all lies, gotta use mineAin't that right?That's what they sayEvery night, everydayHey, we can't really be dumb if we're just following god's ordersWell let's get serious, god knows what he's doin'He wrote this book here and the book says, "He made us all to be just like him"So, if we're dumb, then god is dumb and maybe even a little ugly on the sideDumb all over, a little ugly on the sideDumb all over, a little ugly on the sideDumb all over, a little ugly on the sideDumb all over, a little ugly on the side
Random Anonymous Blackmail: Is alcoholism a religion?
dragonchild: No, we have the capability; that does't mean we make the most of it.
hstein3: You folks can keep arguing, but I just wanted to point out the idiocy of the study.FTFA:A team of behaviour experts asked a group of Malaysian people with different religious backgrounds to take part in a series of tasks involving sharing money with other participants.In one task people were given an imaginary sum of money and given the option of sending some to another participant.They were told that whatever they did not send they would be able to keep but also that the participant could chose to send some of it back - which would then be tripled.They had to judge how "generous" to be.Participants included Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist and non-religious volunteersThe team noticed that there was little difference between levels of co-operation and generosity when people knew nothing of the other person's beliefs and when they knew that they were of different persuasions.But when told that the other person shared their religion they were markedly more trusting and generous with the money."Team of behavior experts," more likely grad students. And how did Nottingham University Business School find a large group of Malaysian people?Reporting on studies, psychological or otherwise, needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Studies like this generally need to be taken with their own grain of salt. All in all, I doubt it's reflective of reality.
HairBolus: One of the purposes of religion is to distinguish an in group from out groups.A religious dictum such as thou shall not kill only applies to the in-group. Cheating or killing foreigners is fine.This perspective makes certain moral contradictions go away. For example, if you can't kill then how can an in-group impose capital punishment on its members? Easy. Transgressions such as female adultery or disrespect of elders means that the transgressor no longer obeys the religious rules which makes them no longer part of the in group and thus ok to kill.
My neighbors dislike my ritualistic shouting of
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
towatchoverme: miscreant: MonoChango: Maybe.. Just maybe, it depends on the Religion.Doesn't seem to be what the study found. They even included non-religious in there, and I'd bet everyone is just as likely to fall into this. They were told they had something in common with the other person they were interacting with. That will make people more generous and trusting of the other person. I doubt it even has to be religion. You could probably do this with hobbies and get a similar result.A big, charbroiled and juicy hunk of THIS, served to everyone in the thread.
tbhouston: i realluy donut geut whuy people keeup adding the letture "U" to wourds... stop it!
had98c: But they only do that because they "love" you and want to see you saved as well. Or some kind of bullshiat like that.
Rapmaster2000: Not according to the footage I've seen.
dragonchild: All humans have the inherent capacity for empathy and cruelty. What makes humans unique is that we use our developed brains to treat empathy like it's a bad thing, and conversely justify cruelty to trigger responses typically evolved for emotional reward
Cymbal: It's not 1995, and this is not an AOL chat room. Please don't think it's cool to post song lyrics. Never was cool in the first place.
HairBolus: A religious dictum such as thou shall not kill only applies to the in-group. Cheating or killing foreigners is fine.
hstein3: And how did Nottingham University Business School find a large group of Malaysian people?
skipjack: t3knomanser: skipjack: OTOH the ridicule those that disagree with you proverb is in full force.We could be intellectual cowards, wringing our hands and pretending that all ideas about the world are equally valid and immune to criticism because they might be quite deeply held by people and we wouldn't want to offend them. Or we could heap ridicule on ridiculous beliefs where we find them.The latter is far more honest.It's not more honest to ridicule those that disagree with you, it's a response by someone insecure in their own beliefs.
Ennuipoet: Ask the Canaanites how religion made for good neighbors, or the Jews, the Gnostics, the Muslims in Spain, the Cathars, the Catholics in England, the Mormons in Missouri. et al how religion makes folks so great neighbors.
umad: You guys are arguing over whether Batman or Iron Man would win in a fight. We're telling you that it doesn't farking matter, since they're both made up.
SisterMaryElephant: Love your neighbor? NoFleece your neighbor? Absolutely. It's what Jesus would do.
CheekyMonkey: hstein3: And how did Nottingham University Business School find a large group of Malaysian people?If only there was a geographical location where Malaysians congregate. Like, oh, perhaps MALAYSIA?
sxacho: Iron Man
Smeggy Smurf: Wadded Beef: From what I see with Christianity it's sin Monday through Saturday, Ctrl-Z on Sunday. I'll pass.My favorite bit is those that think they can "get saved" and then keep right on sinning like nothing changed."Oh look at me I took a bath and now all my sins are gone! WHOOHOO! Adultery here I come!"
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