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2013-01-22 08:59:48 AM  

steverockson: I took her to a recommended psychologist in Tulsa. They performed a battery of tests. It took an entire day. When the report came back I wasn't surprised to see that she had ADHD, in her case she really didn't have the HD component so it was somewhat masked. It was determined that she learned best by listening, not reading, but she was so easily distracted that anyone tapping a pencil or shuffling their feet would destroy her concentration.


Did the same thing (except it may have been at Moore) in 1977 or so.  I don't think ADHD was there at the time. My mother loved having a label and my father said I was a geek (in different words) and decided to fill in the educational gaps and I was building my own computers from scratch a few years later.  I am still a geek.
 
2013-01-22 09:00:55 AM  
Mostly it's the moms - they want the Ritalin for themselves.
 
2013-01-22 09:03:09 AM  

SuperSally: Glockenspiel Hero: Sigh- I see the trolls are out in force.

As a parent to a severely ADHD kid, let me just say
1) It's real
2) It's a condition you're born with: it's not caused by (junk food|too much TV|Dr. Spock parenting|etc)
3) The drugs are a requirement to function: we'd much rather he never have to take another one.

You may now continue with your trolling

As another parent of a severe ADD kid I'd also like to add that there are two types of ADD, hyperactive and inattentive, so the nonsense concept of punishing kids more because they'll stop acting out is stupid. My daughter is better behaved than most of her non-ADD classmates because she's more than happy to sit quietly at her desk, doodle and daydream all day, her brain flitting from one thought to the next. In fact, her excellent behavior is part of why we have such a hard time getting the school to up the discipline for her. Why would they discipline a good kid, even if she is sitting there learning nothing?

We've requested anytime she's excessively off task or not doing her assignments that she is immediately sent to in-school suspension (where it's quiet and she can actually FOCUS) and they're reluctant to do even that.


I, myself, have ADD without the Hyperactivity. My son, on the other hand, has full ADHD.

I know exactly what you are talking about. It's the difference between what schools designate as behavior disordered, and learning disabled. Your daughter, like me, is not behavior disordered, and it is difficult for them to pinpoint and classify her as learning disabled, so you have a hard time convincing the school that a little bit of medicine would benefit her. My mother had to fight this when we moved and I attended a new school. They had never seen ADD without hyperactivity, it's still extremely rare, so they were reluctant to allow me to take my meds. Finally, after my grades suffered significantly the school relented and allowed her to put me on the meds.....Boy were they in shock when all of the sudden my grades skyrocketed.

Keep fighting the good fight.
 
2013-01-22 09:03:09 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: I was diagnosed with ADD and put on Dexedrine. The pediatrician I had would basically bump up the prescription every time my mom asked (pretty much every visit). Every time that happened I would be up for a week. Well, I might finally fall asleep at 5 am, then have to get up at 6 am. Then they wondered why I couldn't pay attention. Gee, really?

Funny how when another doctor freaked out at the dose I was on and after 4 months of weaning me off of it under the supervision of a neurologist I managed to get two engineering degrees.


So uh, how many decades of pills are we talking here?
 
2013-01-22 09:03:29 AM  

DON.MAC: steverockson: I took her to a recommended psychologist in Tulsa. They performed a battery of tests. It took an entire day. When the report came back I wasn't surprised to see that she had ADHD, in her case she really didn't have the HD component so it was somewhat masked. It was determined that she learned best by listening, not reading, but she was so easily distracted that anyone tapping a pencil or shuffling their feet would destroy her concentration.

Did the same thing (except it may have been at Moore) in 1977 or so.  I don't think ADHD was there at the time. My mother loved having a label and my father said I was a geek (in different words) and decided to fill in the educational gaps and I was building my own computers from scratch a few years later.  I am still a geek.


You got tested way back in 1977? Wow, I didn't even realize they knew about it back then. I guess the meds are a new development though.
 
2013-01-22 09:03:46 AM  
You can collect SSID Social Security Disability for ADHD.

I wonder if that influences some people to get their kids diagnosed with ADHD so they can collect $$$.


*No offense to anyone who really does have ADHD and collects SSID.
 
2013-01-22 09:05:23 AM  
Eventually another study follows with "Number of adults thinking their kids have adhd, and bringing them to be medicated jumps by 18 percent"
 
2013-01-22 09:05:24 AM  

SuperSally: With a diagnosis they can take different disciplinary action, add time for tests, etc.


Boy did I take advantage of that in 8th grade.  I "was ill" for way too many days of the school year but ended up taking (and passing) all the exams for all subjects in about a day without any study.  The only thing I needed more time for was quoting "four score and seven years ..."
 
2013-01-22 09:05:51 AM  

I am Wee Todd Ed: You can collect SSID Social Security Disability for ADHD.

I wonder if that influences some people to get their kids diagnosed with ADHD so they can collect $$$.


*No offense to anyone who really does have ADHD and collects SSID.


I wonder if my previous diagnosis still holds?
 
2013-01-22 09:05:54 AM  

I am Wee Todd Ed: You can collect SSID Social Security Disability for ADHD.

I wonder if that influences some people to get their kids diagnosed with ADHD so they can collect $$$.


*No offense to anyone who really does have ADHD and collects SSID.


I did not know this, interesting. I would never take advantage of this unless I absolutely had to.
 
2013-01-22 09:05:59 AM  

ManOfTeal: doczoidberg: greenbowlpacker: ADHD - Made up by the drug companies, for the drug companies.

As someone who was given Ritalin as a kid and told he had ADD, I agree with this statement.

Sure, the drug helps kids do better in school, but at what price?

Also, it should be noted that the drug would help ANYONE do better at school.

From what I understand, if you do not need the medication, it is just like taking speed. So basically, instead of helping you concentrate, you will be climbing the walls if you take ADHD meds like Ritalin and do not actually need them.


You are correct. ADD medication is a stimulant. If you give it to someone who does not have ADD it they bounce off the walls. People who aren't treated often self medicate with large amounts of coffee, nicotine, illegal drugs. They believe their is a genetic connection, I have several family members who have it. Cried myself to sleep the day my daughter was diagnosed (though I had suspected for a while). It's not made up and people who want to medicate their kids to fix disapline problems don't understand the diagnosis. Who the hell would wish that on their kid.
 
2013-01-22 09:07:08 AM  
I hate to be the guy in the weird suit with $'s all over it but it is called Social Security Disability Insurance, aka SSI.
 
2013-01-22 09:08:28 AM  

steverockson: When the report came back I wasn't surprised to see that she had ADHD, in her case she really didn't have the HD component so it was somewhat masked. It was determined that she learned best by listening, not reading, but she was so easily distracted that anyone tapping a pencil or shuffling their feet would destroy her concentration.


Everyone talks about ADHD because, according to the textbook I have on learning disabilities, only about 5% of cases are pure ADD. You daughter reminds me very much of my SO; extremely intelligent but has a hard time concentrating on tasks for long enough to complete them. Medications were not useful for him so he learned coping mechanisms. He struggled through college and got through a year of University. He picked a profession suited to his skillset and does very well for himself. He was told that by a third grade teacher that he would never amount to anything. Heh...

I am very happy to hear that Concerta worked for your daughter; it was an unmitigated disaster for his little brother.
 
2013-01-22 09:09:21 AM  

DON.MAC: steverockson: I took her to a recommended psychologist in Tulsa. They performed a battery of tests. It took an entire day. When the report came back I wasn't surprised to see that she had ADHD, in her case she really didn't have the HD component so it was somewhat masked. It was determined that she learned best by listening, not reading, but she was so easily distracted that anyone tapping a pencil or shuffling their feet would destroy her concentration.

Did the same thing (except it may have been at Moore) in 1977 or so.  I don't think ADHD was there at the time. My mother loved having a label and my father said I was a geek (in different words) and decided to fill in the educational gaps and I was building my own computers from scratch a few years later.  I am still a geek.


Yeah. A lot of moms are like this.

They just GOTTA identify their child as "ADD Johnny," or whatever.

I wonder how much damage that does for the kid's self esteem. HE'S never to blame for his faults; it's always the ADD that's holding him back. Also, HE'S never to blame for his successes; it's the DRUG that helped him!
 
2013-01-22 09:09:42 AM  

Ishkur: Kids shouldn't be using performance enhancing drugs.

It's like our classrooms are full of Lance Armstrongs.


Half the balls of when we were kids, amirite?

/lawn: off it.
 
2013-01-22 09:10:01 AM  

I am Wee Todd Ed: You can collect SSID Social Security Disability for ADHD.

I wonder if that influences some people to get their kids diagnosed with ADHD so they can collect $$$.


*No offense to anyone who really does have ADHD and collects SSID.


I wonder if you need to be tested or if you can just have some random doctor say you have it. When my daughter was diagnosed she underwent a battery of tests that generated a near 20 page report.
 
2013-01-22 09:10:26 AM  

steverockson: You got tested way back in 1977? Wow, I didn't even realize they knew about it back then. I guess the meds are a new development though.


Um no.  They had it then too.  After a few head aches and the cat hissing after smelling the pills, I refused to take anything else.
There were several reattempts to provide drugs which were not fun or useful.
But I didn't graduate college so I'm not a poster child of that solution... but I was in the PhD program when I took a massive contract away from the university and started my own company.
 
2013-01-22 09:10:41 AM  

cyberbenali: Everyone talks about ADHD because, according to the textbook I have on learning disabilities, only about 5% of cases are pure ADD. You daughter reminds me very much of my SO; extremely intelligent but has a hard time concentrating on tasks for long enough to complete them. Medications were not useful for him so he learned coping mechanisms. He struggled through college and got through a year of University. He picked a profession suited to his skillset and does very well for himself. He was told that by a third grade teacher that he would never amount to anything. Heh...

I am very happy to hear that Concerta worked for your daughter; it was an unmitigated disaster for his little brother.


What kind of teacher does that? I had my fair share of asshole teachers as a kid, but none of them ever told me that I wouldn't amount to anything.
 
2013-01-22 09:11:56 AM  

cyberbenali: steverockson: When the report came back I wasn't surprised to see that she had ADHD, in her case she really didn't have the HD component so it was somewhat masked. It was determined that she learned best by listening, not reading, but she was so easily distracted that anyone tapping a pencil or shuffling their feet would destroy her concentration.

Everyone talks about ADHD because, according to the textbook I have on learning disabilities, only about 5% of cases are pure ADD. You daughter reminds me very much of my SO; extremely intelligent but has a hard time concentrating on tasks for long enough to complete them. Medications were not useful for him so he learned coping mechanisms. He struggled through college and got through a year of University. He picked a profession suited to his skillset and does very well for himself. He was told that by a third grade teacher that he would never amount to anything. Heh...

I am very happy to hear that Concerta worked for your daughter; it was an unmitigated disaster for his little brother.


I'm very thankful for that too, we were at our wits end. Unfortunately the meds aren't for everyone.
 
2013-01-22 09:13:41 AM  

doczoidberg: Yeah. A lot of moms are like this.

They just GOTTA identify their child as "ADD Johnny," or whatever.

I wonder how much damage that does for the kid's self esteem. HE'S never to blame for his faults; it's always the ADD that's holding him back. Also, HE'S never to blame for his successes; it's the DRUG that helped him!


I think it is "Munchenhausen Syndrome by Proxy".
My mother was a nurse which means my ADHD diagnosis ratio goes way up. Add in an engineering father and I didn't even need to talk to a doc to get that label.
 
2013-01-22 09:13:49 AM  
I remember when they used to just call it "hyper-active"

/Cant wait for spring to work on my lawn
 
2013-01-22 09:14:14 AM  

DON.MAC: steverockson: You got tested way back in 1977? Wow, I didn't even realize they knew about it back then. I guess the meds are a new development though.

Um no.  They had it then too.  After a few head aches and the cat hissing after smelling the pills, I refused to take anything else.
There were several reattempts to provide drugs which were not fun or useful.
But I didn't graduate college so I'm not a poster child of that solution... but I was in the PhD program when I took a massive contract away from the university and started my own company.


Nice! Unfortunately the meds don't work for everyone.
 
2013-01-22 09:15:16 AM  

steverockson: I am Wee Todd Ed: You can collect SSID Social Security Disability for ADHD.

I wonder if that influences some people to get their kids diagnosed with ADHD so they can collect $$$.


*No offense to anyone who really does have ADHD and collects SSID.

I wonder if you need to be tested or if you can just have some random doctor say you have it. When my daughter was diagnosed she underwent a battery of tests that generated a near 20 page report.


Doctors like money too.
 
2013-01-22 09:17:02 AM  

DON.MAC: doczoidberg: Yeah. A lot of moms are like this.

They just GOTTA identify their child as "ADD Johnny," or whatever.

I wonder how much damage that does for the kid's self esteem. HE'S never to blame for his faults; it's always the ADD that's holding him back. Also, HE'S never to blame for his successes; it's the DRUG that helped him!

I think it is "Munchenhausen Syndrome by Proxy".
My mother was a nurse which means my ADHD diagnosis ratio goes way up. Add in an engineering father and I didn't even need to talk to a doc to get that label.


We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.
 
2013-01-22 09:17:48 AM  

Cythraul:  He was told that by a third grade teacher that he would never amount to anything. Heh...
...
What kind of teacher does that? I had my fair share of asshole teachers as a kid, but none of them ever told me that I wouldn't amount to anything.


It used to be common in Catholic schools for kids that were misbehaving or were slacking off.
I've been told it more than once and most of my friends were told it as well and they aren't too worse for wear. However that may have been more to do with when and how it was said.
 
2013-01-22 09:19:51 AM  

dragyne: ADHD doesn't always mean bouncing off the wall. The impression that all ADHD kids are balls of youthful energy is a fallacy that hurts many of those kids as they reach into adulthood. Is it over diagnosed? For those kids who are full of energy and youthful exhuberene and defiance, absolutely. But don't think for a secodn that it isn't real and that it is a function of doing what you enjoy doing.

I cannot speak for all of us unlucky ones who have ADHD as adults but unmedicated I have a hard time paying attention to ANYTHING. As in I have gotten lost in the maze of my own mind in the midst of doing pleasureable activities such as having sex, playing video games, hanging out with friends. So to me at least it is not a function of doing something that I am not interested in... it is well and truly an inability to focus.


Train yourself. Meditation. Thai chi. Chai tea. Even chemical imbalances can be mitigated or overcome through active focusing techniques.
 
2013-01-22 09:20:03 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Sigh- I see the trolls are out in force.

As a parent to a severely ADHD kid, let me just say
1) It's real
2) It's a condition you're born with: it's not caused by (junk food|too much TV|Dr. Spock parenting|etc)
3) The drugs are a requirement to function: we'd much rather he never have to take another one.

You may now continue with your trolling


I will not dispute any of that. What I will point out, however, is that for every child that actually DOES need it (and I do realize that many do), there are many more who do NOT need it, but are prescribed it. It's a shame, but it's true.
 
2013-01-22 09:20:45 AM  

Cythraul: cyberbenali: He was told that by a third grade teacher that he would never amount to anything. Heh...

What kind of teacher does that? I had my fair share of asshole teachers as a kid, but none of them ever told me that I wouldn't amount to anything.


One that cemented his hatred (and anxiety) for school that stays with him today. He was a wreck when he was training for his current job. It's funny because we have constructive discussions about my research (plant ecology). He has a good scientific mind.
 
2013-01-22 09:20:56 AM  

steverockson: We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.


I doubt schools give a flying fark, especially if they are public.
 
2013-01-22 09:21:03 AM  

steverockson: We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.


You have labelled her and she will know even if you don't see it yet.  You need it mitigate that sooner than later.  The sooner you do it, the better for everyone.  At least you didn't label her for the rest of the world which is a very good thing.
 
2013-01-22 09:23:54 AM  

DON.MAC: steverockson: We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.

You have labelled her and she will know even if you don't see it yet.  You need it mitigate that sooner than later.  The sooner you do it, the better for everyone.  At least you didn't label her for the rest of the world which is a very good thing.


What do you mean by "mitigate" it? We don't make a big deal out of it, for us it's like dealing with diabetes.
 
2013-01-22 09:24:20 AM  

Tanthalas39: I think the whole "bunny rabbit" and "something shiny" joke has really, really run its course.


Especially when there IS NO BUNNY in the link. That really pisses me off.
 
2013-01-22 09:24:46 AM  

steverockson: DON.MAC: steverockson: We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.

You have labelled her and she will know even if you don't see it yet.  You need it mitigate that sooner than later.  The sooner you do it, the better for everyone.  At least you didn't label her for the rest of the world which is a very good thing.

What do you mean by "mitigate" it? We don't make a big deal out of it, for us it's like dealing with diabetes.


There are people who claim that to call someone a "diabetic" (rather than a person with diabetes) is to label them.

I think they need more hobbies.
 
2013-01-22 09:26:57 AM  

ph0rk: steverockson: DON.MAC: steverockson: We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.

You have labelled her and she will know even if you don't see it yet.  You need it mitigate that sooner than later.  The sooner you do it, the better for everyone.  At least you didn't label her for the rest of the world which is a very good thing.

What do you mean by "mitigate" it? We don't make a big deal out of it, for us it's like dealing with diabetes.

There are people who claim that to call someone a "diabetic" (rather than a person with diabetes) is to label them.

I think they need more hobbies.


Well yeah, and we don't call her an ADHDetic.
 
2013-01-22 09:27:39 AM  

nekom: I will not dispute any of that. What I will point out, however, is that for every child that actually DOES need it (and I do realize that many do), there are many more who do NOT need it, but are prescribed it. It's a shame, but it's true.


It is, and you have to do very little research to find out that the most popular prescription drugs for it are basically pharmaceutical grade meth. If I were a parent, I wouldn't want my kid touching the stuff unless it was a necessity.
 
2013-01-22 09:29:12 AM  
Attention spans are lower in a world with an abundance of stimuli more engaging than one's expected tasks.

/film at 11
 
2013-01-22 09:29:45 AM  
steverockson:

We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.

That is a good thing.

Don't tell the school. It'll just make them treat her differently. She won't appreciate that in the long run.
 
2013-01-22 09:30:39 AM  

steverockson: DON.MAC: steverockson: We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.

You have labelled her and she will know even if you don't see it yet.  You need it mitigate that sooner than later.  The sooner you do it, the better for everyone.  At least you didn't label her for the rest of the world which is a very good thing.

What do you mean by "mitigate" it? We don't make a big deal out of it, for us it's like dealing with diabetes.


You mitigate it by finding solutions.  I'm guessing she isn't good at dealing with the combination of modern education combined with modern entertainment combined with modern lifestyle.  By modern I mean what every other kid is doing. You need to find the solution to balance those three.
 
2013-01-22 09:31:30 AM  

doczoidberg: steverockson:

We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.

That is a good thing.

Don't tell the school. It'll just make them treat her differently. She won't appreciate that in the long run.


I agree, especially since she doesn't need accommodations.
 
2013-01-22 09:31:40 AM  

steverockson: ph0rk: steverockson: DON.MAC: steverockson: We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.

You have labelled her and she will know even if you don't see it yet.  You need it mitigate that sooner than later.  The sooner you do it, the better for everyone.  At least you didn't label her for the rest of the world which is a very good thing.

What do you mean by "mitigate" it? We don't make a big deal out of it, for us it's like dealing with diabetes.

There are people who claim that to call someone a "diabetic" (rather than a person with diabetes) is to label them.

I think they need more hobbies.

Well yeah, and we don't call her an ADHDetic.


ADHD is a part of your daughter, but it is not who she is. It does not define her. It sounds like you are teaching her this. Which is a good thing. I will teach my son the same, when he's old enough to understand.

It's all about learning to cope. It's the kids that are never properly diagnosed and never given the opportunity to learn how to cope that end up having the problems.
 
2013-01-22 09:33:17 AM  

DON.MAC: steverockson: DON.MAC: steverockson: We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.

You have labelled her and she will know even if you don't see it yet.  You need it mitigate that sooner than later.  The sooner you do it, the better for everyone.  At least you didn't label her for the rest of the world which is a very good thing.

What do you mean by "mitigate" it? We don't make a big deal out of it, for us it's like dealing with diabetes.

You mitigate it by finding solutions.  I'm guessing she isn't good at dealing with the combination of modern education combined with modern entertainment combined with modern lifestyle.  By modern I mean what every other kid is doing. You need to find the solution to balance those three.


She's perfectly fine dealing with all that as long as she takes her daily pill. Without it she ceases to function. Concerta was a godsend for us.
 
2013-01-22 09:33:43 AM  

steverockson: I am Wee Todd Ed: You can collect SSID Social Security Disability for ADHD.

I wonder if that influences some people to get their kids diagnosed with ADHD so they can collect $$$.


*No offense to anyone who really does have ADHD and collects SSID.

I wonder if you need to be tested or if you can just have some random doctor say you have it. When my daughter was diagnosed she underwent a battery of tests that generated a near 20 page report.


I'm thinking that there are a few docs that will diagnose a kid when the kid doesn't fit the criteria and parents will shop around until they find a doc that will. I work with a nice woman who's child is definitly ADHD, if you met the kid you'd agree there's something a little off with him, anyway she finally got him diagnosed as ADHD but struggled for years to do so. He's had a lot of disciplinary issues at school because he just can't focus but he's a good kid. She does collect SSI but she really needs it and it's going to help her kid.

On the other hand, I do taxes as a second job and yeah, a lot of people are getting SSI for their kid's quote ADHD unquote. Sad but true. Also, the number of people on food stamps is farking nuts. Yeah, I don't want people to go hungry but damn don't pull out that that new iphone that cost $300+ with $100+ a month phone bill while I'm doing your tax return and tell me all the benefit programs you are on.
 
2013-01-22 09:34:21 AM  

ManOfTeal: steverockson: ph0rk: steverockson: DON.MAC: steverockson: We're very careful about "labeling" our daughter, very few people know about it, and the school sure as hell doesn't know, I doubt they would be helpful and we don't want her stigmatized.

You have labelled her and she will know even if you don't see it yet.  You need it mitigate that sooner than later.  The sooner you do it, the better for everyone.  At least you didn't label her for the rest of the world which is a very good thing.

What do you mean by "mitigate" it? We don't make a big deal out of it, for us it's like dealing with diabetes.

There are people who claim that to call someone a "diabetic" (rather than a person with diabetes) is to label them.

I think they need more hobbies.

Well yeah, and we don't call her an ADHDetic.

ADHD is a part of your daughter, but it is not who she is. It does not define her. It sounds like you are teaching her this. Which is a good thing. I will teach my son the same, when he's old enough to understand.

It's all about learning to cope. It's the kids that are never properly diagnosed and never given the opportunity to learn how to cope that end up having the problems.


Exactly! She's risen way above it.
 
2013-01-22 09:41:02 AM  
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2013-01-22 09:42:43 AM  

dragyne: ADHD doesn't always mean bouncing off the wall. The impression that all ADHD kids are balls of youthful energy is a fallacy that hurts many of those kids as they reach into adulthood. Is it over diagnosed? For those kids who are full of energy and youthful exhuberene and defiance, absolutely. But don't think for a secodn that it isn't real and that it is a function of doing what you enjoy doing.

I cannot speak for all of us unlucky ones who have ADHD as adults but unmedicated I have a hard time paying attention to ANYTHING. As in I have gotten lost in the maze of my own mind in the midst of doing pleasureable activities such as having sex, playing video games, hanging out with friends. So to me at least it is not a function of doing something that I am not interested in... it is well and truly an inability to focus.


Diagnosed at age 38, now 43, and although my life was hell up until that point I disagree with you calling us unlucky. When I was finally diagnosed I was so relieved I broke down in tears and you know exactly why I did. Since then I find I prefer the company of others with it. We are definately different and in a good way. Who else is going to be able to understand you and be tolerant of your behaviour than another with it? We also seem to be lacking the ability to be fake and malicious like most common folk. I believe it is because we can't focus long enough to be devious or the inherent naivete we have keeps us in an almost childlike mentality that prevents us from acting false or fake, pretending to be something we aren't or portray false feelings. We are open books, and although some will find us intolerable for speaking our minds and feelings without hesitation, I love myself and the rest of you with it for that very reason. We are honest. We don't have ulterior motives. I recommend joining a group therapy just to have the pleasure of being in a room full of others like yourselves and you will see what I'm talking about.

Because of this I will only date women who have also been diagnosed, preferably as an adult as well. I have learned many coping mechanisms and methods for adjusting in order to better my life and if anyone needs advice or even a friendly ear, I am here for you. Noone that doesn't have it can possibly understand and therefore please stay away from so called "life coaches". They are vultures who are not going to help you do anything other than empty your wallet or purse.

Also for those in the Edmonton area I want to warn you about this so called Canadian "expert" on adult ADHD Dr. Nagy Youssef, he doesn't have it, he has only a basic understanding of what life is like with it, and is actively trying to get recognition of it as a disability removed by the CRA and the federal govnmt. That is not the behaviour of a caring and understanding health proffesional and having seen him for 6 months I can assure you he is worse than useless, he will damage your self-esteem and minimize your struggles. Avoid him.

Also, if you didn't know, it is a recognised mental disability and a decent general practitioner can assist you in filling out the forms necessary to qualify for the disability tax credit. If you are approved, I was, you can ask to have it applied retroactively for the last ten tax years and you will get a cheque from the CRA for about $16,000 once they have reassessed your taxes. It takes over six months but worth it, n'est pas?
 
2013-01-22 09:44:07 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: As a parent to a severely ADHD kid, let me just say
1) It's real

-but over diagnosed
2) It's a condition you're born with: it's not caused by (junk food|too much TV|Dr. Spock parenting|etc) -But studies have shown that cutting the junk food and increasing exercise eliminates the need for drugs for all but the most serious cases
3) The drugs are a requirement to function: we'd much rather he never have to take another one. -Most agree, drugs are occasionally necessary, but currently vastly over-prescribed
Do you know there are regular schools where over half the kids are on some form of ADHD medication? The school practically hires doctors to hand out prescriptions. There are other schools, in matching socio-economic areas, that have less than 1% on drugs. That just doesn't make sense if it's solely a medical condition.

If your kid is one of 1-2% in his school on the drugs, then I'm fine with it: He's a legitimate case. If he's one of 50%, then I start getting leery.
 
2013-01-22 09:44:34 AM  
I'm sure raising them all on screens from birth has nothing to do with it. Kids are much better off not playing outside where it's dangerous after all.
 
2013-01-22 09:46:09 AM  

BAMFinator: Are there more kids with ADHD or are they just diagnosing more kids with ADHD?

/dnrtfa


There are more people in the psychiatric "profession" (I use the term loosely in this case) in need of clients suckers and besides those pharmaceuticals are not going to sell themselves.
 
2013-01-22 09:49:04 AM  

megalynn44: I'm sure raising them all on screens from birth has nothing to do with it. Kids are much better off not playing outside where it's dangerous after all.


I'm sure there are cases of that, but looking back my daughter exhibited symptoms from birth. She would never, ever go to sleep on her own, if you just put her in her crib she would cry for hours and NOT go to sleep. She had to be actively rocked to sleep EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. As a toddler if you tried to read her a book, after a minute or two she would grab it, throw it in the floor and run away. She was our oldest so we thought this was normal.
 
2013-01-22 09:49:33 AM  

steverockson: /Csb?


Either that or an astroturf marketing campaign for the drug you mentioned.

Seriously, you made it sound too good to be true.

You could probably make a good living as an evangelical preacher.
 
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