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(Reuters)   Remember the library sign that caused worldwide attention about all Lance Armstrong books being moved to the fiction section? Well, about that   (reuters.com) divider line 68
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d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-22 08:40:15 AM
I don't understand the fuss about this prank, so I am just going to post a hot librarian pic...

billadelphia.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-22 08:40:20 AM
Oook.
 
2013-01-22 08:43:36 AM
"Libraries can't arbitrarily reclassify categories of books, because that depends on the ISBN number that is issued by the National Library," a spokesman at Manly Council, which runs the library, said on Monday.

I need to go all Morgo on this one...

i2.kym-cdn.com

ISBN's DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!

farking biatch doesn't have her master's in Library Science.

/Mercenary Librarian
 
2013-01-22 08:44:10 AM
They are investigating this? Why? This was a freaking joke.
 
2013-01-22 08:44:47 AM
Oh yeah, and more librarian pictures would be great.
 
2013-01-22 08:45:41 AM
This article contains no information that was not in the original article.

/nothing to see here, move along, move along.
 
2013-01-22 08:45:44 AM
i26.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-22 08:47:28 AM
In the grand scheme of things, Lance Armstrong's doping and this book rearrangement thing are so infinitesimally irrelevant that it is eclipsed by that idiot football player with the fake internet girlfriend story.
 
2013-01-22 08:49:50 AM
FTA: Manly Library said the printed notice, which was placed in a plastic stand on a bookshelf in the library, was a prank and that an internal review was underway.

"Libraries can't arbitrarily reclassify categories of books, because that depends on the ISBN number that is issued by the National Library," a spokesman at Manly Council, which runs the library, said on Monday.


I snickered through the whole of my visit to Manly because of shiat just like this.
 
2013-01-22 08:50:38 AM

d23: I don't understand the fuss about this prank, so I am just going to post a hot librarian pic...


I don't understand the fuss in general, so thanks.
 
2013-01-22 08:52:25 AM
Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...
 
2013-01-22 08:54:49 AM
Who cares? Libraries are worthless these days. They're nothing more than day care centers where women in sweat pants drag their sick kids through aisles of discarded kids books. If not that, then there a place for the homeless to check their Ultrafark e-mail. If not that, then it's a place for penny pinching old men to read the paper while they shiat in public restrooms for hours, wiping their asses with the public dime. If not that, then it's a place for college students to fill out the MLA reference sheet their professor gave them, though it matters little since they copied the entire paper off Wiki-essay. If not that, then it's a place to employ the otherwise unemployable with BAs and MFAs and other luxury degrees. After this crop of book-hags retires, I can't imagine any more jobs in this field. If none of the above, then it's a place where valuable, historical tomes are waiting to be digitized so people seeking knowledge don't have to power struggle with employees who some how think they are intelligent because they know where a book goes on a shelf. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they shut every public library down and channeled all the wasted resources on digitizing the books for mass consumption. Collectors will buy up anything of value and take much better care of it than a low-wage librarian. Everything else can get recycled.
 
2013-01-22 08:55:42 AM

wildcardjack: "Libraries can't arbitrarily reclassify categories of books, because that depends on the ISBN number that is issued by the National Library," a spokesman at Manly Council, which runs the library, said on Monday.

I need to go all Morgo on this one...



ISBN's DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!

farking biatch doesn't have her master's in Library Science.

/Mercenary Librarian


You don't need a graduate degree in Library Science to realize that.

We still teach the basics of the Dewey Decimal System to second and third graders. I first learned the basics of the Library of Congress Classification (just the mere basics) when I was 8 - 9.

It says a lot about the talking heads when a spokesperson can't understand basic information that we teach our children.

/props to the Library Science folks... more to it than most people think
 
2013-01-22 08:56:41 AM

d23: I don't understand the fuss about this prank, so I am just going to post a hot librarian pic...

[billadelphia.files.wordpress.com image 850x850]


Umm, Look at her skirt....

The Scarlet Letter
The Joy of Sex
Moby Dick
Short Stories

Ummm, something doesn't belong there
 
2013-01-22 08:59:09 AM

CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...


Hitler - He was a great organizer, even though he was...ah, forget it. Not going to Godwin this early.
 
2013-01-22 09:00:27 AM
As George Bernard Shaw said, "All autobiographies are lies." Now there are degrees of lying, lies to cover up mendacity (Hammer, Armstrong), lies to tell a better story (Sedaris), lies to manipulate donors (Mortenson, Armstrong), and lies that are just plain weird (Helen Keller discussing her memories of going deaf & blind. That happened when she was a year and a half.)
 
2013-01-22 09:09:16 AM

gopher321: CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...

Hitler - He was a great organizer, even though he was...ah, forget it. Not going to Godwin this early.


Yes, because cheating in sport is just as bad as killing millions of people. Great analogy, Doofus! You get to sit on the Smarty Stool, and wear the Conic Hat of Genius for the day!
 
2013-01-22 09:12:20 AM

FullMetalPanda: d23: I don't understand the fuss about this prank, so I am just going to post a hot librarian pic...

[billadelphia.files.wordpress.com image 850x850]

Umm, Look at her skirt....

The Scarlet Letter
The Joy of Sex
Moby Dick
Short Stories

Ummm, something doesn't belong there


it's a short skirt.
 
2013-01-22 09:16:08 AM

CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...


Being a bad person trumps athletic achievement in my view.

Sadly, I seem to be in the minority based on society's predilections.
 
2013-01-22 09:17:48 AM
"What's a library, dad?"
"Oh, it's just a place where homeless people come to shave and go BM."
 
2013-01-22 09:19:26 AM
It could not have been true because such an action would have to be debated endlessly at two national conferences and five library publications before a librarian would make a decision like that. Bloggers would be talking forever.

/librarian
 
2013-01-22 09:25:47 AM

CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...


Bull. He is, literally, a nobody. The only reason you know his name - the only reason - is because he cheated his way to winning. If he hadn't done that, somebody else would have won, and the only Armstrong you'd ever heard of would have landed on the moon.

Put your head in the sand if you wish. It won't change the truth.
 
2013-01-22 09:26:24 AM

CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...


No, 100% wrong. If you cheat at your sport you are in fact not a great athlete, you are a cheater and therefore a disgrace to the sport.
 
2013-01-22 09:28:19 AM

spentmiles: Who cares? Libraries are worthless these days. They're nothing more than day care centers where women in sweat pants drag their sick kids through aisles of discarded kids books. If not that, then there a place for the homeless to check their Ultrafark e-mail. If not that, then it's a place for penny pinching old men to read the paper while they shiat in public restrooms for hours, wiping their asses with the public dime. If not that, then it's a place for college students to fill out the MLA reference sheet their professor gave them, though it matters little since they copied the entire paper off Wiki-essay. If not that, then it's a place to employ the otherwise unemployable with BAs and MFAs and other luxury degrees. After this crop of book-hags retires, I can't imagine any more jobs in this field. If none of the above, then it's a place where valuable, historical tomes are waiting to be digitized so people seeking knowledge don't have to power struggle with employees who some how think they are intelligent because they know where a book goes on a shelf. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they shut every public library down and channeled all the wasted resources on digitizing the books for mass consumption. Collectors will buy up anything of value and take much better care of it than a low-wage librarian. Everything else can get recycled.


Were you raped by the library police as a child?
 
2013-01-22 09:29:31 AM

meathome: CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...

Being a bad person trumps athletic achievement in my view.

Sadly, I seem to be in the minority based on society's predilections.


Six Pro Bowls, five All-Pros, a four-time NFL rushing champion, 75th Anniversary all star, Heisman trophy, 1973 NFL MVP... and he's single!
 
2013-01-22 09:36:08 AM
Duhhhh...
 
2013-01-22 09:39:05 AM

Flakeloaf: meathome: CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...

Being a bad person trumps athletic achievement in my view.

Sadly, I seem to be in the minority based on society's predilections.

Six Pro Bowls, five All-Pros, a four-time NFL rushing champion, 75th Anniversary all star, Heisman trophy, 1973 NFL MVP... and he's single!


I'm guessing he has a boyfriend by now.
 
2013-01-22 09:42:48 AM
Seriously, we haved stoned this guy yet? Or fed him to the lions?
 
2013-01-22 09:44:19 AM

karmachameleon: CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...

Bull. He is, literally, a nobody. The only reason you know his name - the only reason - is because he cheated his way to winning. If he hadn't done that, somebody else would have won, and the only Armstrong you'd ever heard of would have landed on the moon.

Put your head in the sand if you wish. It won't change the truth.


manimal2878: CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...

No, 100% wrong. If you cheat at your sport you are in fact not a great athlete, you are a cheater and therefore a disgrace to the sport.


You guys are funny. Face it - even without the performance-enhancing drugs (which an estimated 67% of all cyclists competing at Lance's level take, BTW), he's a better athlete than 99.9% of all cyclists. Those drugs didn't magically take him from a lumpy couch potato to Superman, you know. Most of it is genetics plus training.

The only thing he did wrong was break an arbitrary rule, and the usefulness of that rule is debatable. It controls one tiny variable. There are no rules against other performance-enhancing things, like riding a ridiculously-expensive bike, made of space-age materials. Why not? Those also give riders an unfair advantage, no? Everyone should have to ride the same bike, and train the same amount.
 
2013-01-22 09:45:17 AM

d23: I don't understand the fuss about this prank, so I am just going to post a hot librarian pic...


...and I love you for it!
 
2013-01-22 09:48:10 AM

CheekyMonkey: gopher321: CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...

Hitler - He was a great organizer, even though he was...ah, forget it. Not going to Godwin this early.

Yes, because cheating in sport is just as bad as killing millions of people. Great analogy, Doofus! You get to sit on the Smarty Stool, and wear the Conic Hat of Genius for the day!


You mad? Was that you with the Lance tattoo?
 
2013-01-22 09:53:24 AM

meathome: wildcardjack: "Libraries can't arbitrarily reclassify categories of books, because that depends on the ISBN number that is issued by the National Library," a spokesman at Manly Council, which runs the library, said on Monday.

I need to go all Morgo on this one...

ISBN's DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!

farking biatch doesn't have her master's in Library Science.

/Mercenary Librarian

You don't need a graduate degree in Library Science to realize that.

We still teach the basics of the Dewey Decimal System to second and third graders. I first learned the basics of the Library of Congress Classification (just the mere basics) when I was 8 - 9.

It says a lot about the talking heads when a spokesperson can't understand basic information that we teach our children.

/props to the Library Science folks... more to it than most people think


Hell, most books come with the library cataloging info provided by the publisher. Dewey and LoC styles anyway. Maybe there is some special Aussie scheme they use. Maybe they take the ISBN, multiply by the date, then divide by the square root of seven.
 
2013-01-22 10:02:33 AM

moto-geek: CheekyMonkey: gopher321: CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...

Hitler - He was a great organizer, even though he was...ah, forget it. Not going to Godwin this early.

Yes, because cheating in sport is just as bad as killing millions of people. Great analogy, Doofus! You get to sit on the Smarty Stool, and wear the Conic Hat of Genius for the day!

You mad? Was that you with the Lance tattoo?


He's trolling the haters. They are irrational in their hate. They get all panty wadded angry.
 
2013-01-22 11:00:27 AM

wildcardjack: "Libraries can't arbitrarily reclassify categories of books, because that depends on the ISBN number that is issued by the National Library," a spokesman at Manly Council, which runs the library, said on Monday.

I need to go all Morgo on this one...



ISBN's DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!

farking biatch doesn't have her master's in Library Science.

/Mercenary Librarian


Came here to say that. Thank you, jack.

/Thankfully Fully-employed Librarian
 
2013-01-22 11:17:53 AM

manimal2878: spentmiles: Who cares? Libraries are worthless these days. They're nothing more than day care centers where women in sweat pants drag their sick kids through aisles of discarded kids books. If not that, then there a place for the homeless to check their Ultrafark e-mail. If not that, then it's a place for penny pinching old men to read the paper while they shiat in public restrooms for hours, wiping their asses with the public dime. If not that, then it's a place for college students to fill out the MLA reference sheet their professor gave them, though it matters little since they copied the entire paper off Wiki-essay. If not that, then it's a place to employ the otherwise unemployable with BAs and MFAs and other luxury degrees. After this crop of book-hags retires, I can't imagine any more jobs in this field. If none of the above, then it's a place where valuable, historical tomes are waiting to be digitized so people seeking knowledge don't have to power struggle with employees who some how think they are intelligent because they know where a book goes on a shelf. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they shut every public library down and channeled all the wasted resources on digitizing the books for mass consumption. Collectors will buy up anything of value and take much better care of it than a low-wage librarian. Everything else can get recycled.

Were you raped by the library police as a child?


1.bp.blogspot.com

/I used to get annoyed that people posted this image when I made a reference to the library police. I don't recall that episode, but I amuse myself to think the man is one an the same from three past midnight.
 
2013-01-22 11:29:52 AM
Nothing noble ever comes of piling it on someone when they're at their lowest.

www.ridethepine.com

/not that lance hasn't earned it
//just a PSA
 
2013-01-22 11:36:50 AM

spentmiles: Who cares? Libraries are worthless these days. They're nothing more than day care centers where women in sweat pants drag their sick kids through aisles of discarded kids books. If not that, then there a place for the homeless to check their Ultrafark e-mail. If not that, then it's a place for penny pinching old men to read the paper while they shiat in public restrooms for hours, wiping their asses with the public dime. If not that, then it's a place for college students to fill out the MLA reference sheet their professor gave them, though it matters little since they copied the entire paper off Wiki-essay. If not that, then it's a place to employ the otherwise unemployable with BAs and MFAs and other luxury degrees. After this crop of book-hags retires, I can't imagine any more jobs in this field. If none of the above, then it's a place where valuable, historical tomes are waiting to be digitized so people seeking knowledge don't have to power struggle with employees who some how think they are intelligent because they know where a book goes on a shelf. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they shut every public library down and channeled all the wasted resources on digitizing the books for mass consumption. Collectors will buy up anything of value and take much better care of it than a low-wage librarian. Everything else can get recycled.


I like to go to my local library to see what CDs they have in. I live in Memphis so there are always great blues albums there.
/got my copy of Robert Johnson: King of the Delta Blues Singers there
//Don't ban libraries
 
2013-01-22 11:44:08 AM
Why was I thinking Neil Armstrong when I began reading?

/Today is going to be a rough day
 
2013-01-22 12:07:59 PM
You're a goddamn library, you can do whatever the hell you want. What are they going to do, shut you down due to having some books "misplaced"?
 
2013-01-22 12:13:52 PM

yequalsy: there are degrees of lying, lies to cover up mendacity (Hammer, Armstrong)


Lies in Hammer is news to me. Point me to sources?
 
2013-01-22 12:16:02 PM
Lance Armstrong proved that blood doping actually works, and works hard.
Years back, I heard a comedian say that there should just be separate 'Drug Leagues' in sports- and if the athletes crash and burn, they'd just serve as bad examples to the kids. Sounds okay here.
 
2013-01-22 12:21:35 PM

CheekyMonkey: karmachameleon: CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...

Bull. He is, literally, a nobody. The only reason you know his name - the only reason - is because he cheated his way to winning. If he hadn't done that, somebody else would have won, and the only Armstrong you'd ever heard of would have landed on the moon.

Put your head in the sand if you wish. It won't change the truth.

manimal2878: CheekyMonkey: Pfft. He's still a great athlete, even if he is a farking cheater...

No, 100% wrong. If you cheat at your sport you are in fact not a great athlete, you are a cheater and therefore a disgrace to the sport.

You guys are funny. Face it - even without the performance-enhancing drugs (which an estimated 67% of all cyclists competing at Lance's level take, BTW), he's a better athlete than 99.9% of all cyclists. Those drugs didn't magically take him from a lumpy couch potato to Superman, you know. Most of it is genetics plus training.

The only thing he did wrong was break an arbitrary rule, and the usefulness of that rule is debatable. It controls one tiny variable. There are no rules against other performance-enhancing things, like riding a ridiculously-expensive bike, made of space-age materials. Why not? Those also give riders an unfair advantage, no? Everyone should have to ride the same bike, and train the same amount.


We're tar and feathering a fallen hero. You keep your reasoned and thoughtful opinions to yourself.
 
2013-01-22 12:23:47 PM

mdeesnuts: You keep your reasoned and thoughtful opinions to yourself.


There's really nothing reasonable or thoughtful about "The only thing he did wrong was break an arbitrary rule, and the usefulness of that rule is debatable."

The only things he did wrong were blackmail, file BS lawsuits, threaten to destroy people's careers and reputations (or do so), and all to protect his lie.
 
2013-01-22 12:48:57 PM

IAmRight:
There's really nothing reasonable or thoughtful about "The only thing he did wrong was break an arbitrary rule, and the usefulness of that rule is debatable."

The only things he did wrong were blackmail, file BS lawsuits, threaten to destroy people's careers and reputations (or do so), and all to protect his lie.


He's the greatest cyclist to ever live, but you keep beating that horse. It'll be dead before long.

And you'll keep beating it, never bothering to stop and consider if the rule he broke is indeed usefull.

/burn the apostate!
//there are rules
 
2013-01-22 12:55:10 PM

mdeesnuts: And you'll keep beating it, never bothering to stop and consider if the rule he broke is indeed usefull.


If it's not such a big deal, then why did he sue anyone that even suggested that he might've broken it?
 
2013-01-22 01:15:43 PM

mdeesnuts: IAmRight:
There's really nothing reasonable or thoughtful about "The only thing he did wrong was break an arbitrary rule, and the usefulness of that rule is debatable."

The only things he did wrong were blackmail, file BS lawsuits, threaten to destroy people's careers and reputations (or do so), and all to protect his lie.

He's the greatest cyclist to ever live, but you keep beating that horse. It'll be dead before long.

And you'll keep beating it, never bothering to stop and consider if the rule he broke is indeed usefull.

/burn the apostate!
//there are rules


I think most people would get over the entire thing if it were just a matter of getting caught/confessing to using drugs. Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Landis, etc, had their 15 minutes and now are just footnotes in the history books. The reason Lance is being so venomously vilified is for the ruthlessness with which he destroyed the people who opposed him at every level. He milked hundreds of thousands of dollars out of defamation lawsuits when people were actually telling the truth. He actually profited off perpetuating this lie and destroying careers and lives. It's not the rule-breaking that has people in such an uproar, it's the almost psychopathic extent he went to in order to cover it up.

/IMHO
//Not that that means much.
 
2013-01-22 01:23:39 PM

bugcrusher: yequalsy: there are degrees of lying, lies to cover up mendacity (Hammer, Armstrong)

Lies in Hammer is news to me. Point me to sources?


He spends a lot of his memoir whitewashing his relationship with the Soviets. The evidence is that minimally he played a little too much footsie with the KGB and maximally he was a traitor. Link
 
2013-01-22 01:41:10 PM
I'd say that something like 3/4 of all the 'look at the sign i found' photos on reddit and the like are faked by the person putting it up. Not news.
 
2013-01-22 01:44:42 PM

Raithun: FTA: Manly Library said the printed notice, which was placed in a plastic stand on a bookshelf in the library, was a prank and that an internal review was underway.

"Libraries can't arbitrarily reclassify categories of books, because that depends on the ISBN number that is issued by the National Library," a spokesman at Manly Council, which runs the library, said on Monday.

I snickered through the whole of my visit to Manly because of shiat just like this.


tenaanval.files.wordpress.com

What a Manly librarian might look like.

/manly librarian
 
2013-01-22 01:57:24 PM

IAmRight: mdeesnuts: You keep your reasoned and thoughtful opinions to yourself.

There's really nothing reasonable or thoughtful about "The only thing he did wrong was break an arbitrary rule, and the usefulness of that rule is debatable."

The only things he did wrong were blackmail, file BS lawsuits, threaten to destroy people's careers and reputations (or do so), and all to protect his lie.


My original comments relate only to the issue of performance-enhancing drugs being an rather arbitrary line to draw, with respect to the myriad of other ways to get an edge in sports. ForWhy aren't carbon-fiber bikes banned in cycling, similar to corked bats in baseball? It's all arbitrary - both provide the user with a similar advantage, as do performance-enhancing drugs.

*CheekyMonkey googles some stuff about Lance Armstrong*. Looks like you are correct. I was unaware of Lance's litigiousness (I don't pay much attention to pro sports in general, and none at all to cycling). Lance is an incredible asshole, and I hope that karma bites him in the ass (or his one remaining testicle). He really deserves to be sued into poverty, to die alone and penniless.

This doesn't negate my original point, though. He can be a great (from the standpoint of physical accomplishments) athlete AND a cheater AND a SuperDouche all at the same time.
 
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