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(Ynet)   Will Bibi win again and continue awkward meetings with Obama? Will the Israeli left be able to be a factor at all? Will anything actually change in the Middle East? Its your official Israeli Election day thread. Results at 3PM EST   (ynetnews.com) divider line 67
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2013-01-22 07:30:09 AM
Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?
 
2013-01-22 07:31:56 AM
yes, yes, no
 
2013-01-22 07:34:08 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?


The only Bibi I know was nailed by Captain Kirk:

api.ning.com
 
2013-01-22 07:36:25 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?


Because they're assholes.
 
2013-01-22 07:48:31 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?


Because, quite possibly, when you're surrounded by jerks who would like nothing more than the destruction of your nation and even your very people, sometimes an asshole can be tolerable as long as he's an asshole to the right people.

Plus, Israel doesn't elect him. His district elects him. Then his coalition places him as PM. If his district is in Jerusalem, an Israeli in Tel Aviv has absolutely no say in his election, unless they can break his party's hold on the Knesset.
 
2013-01-22 07:52:10 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?


Why did *insert politician you don't like here* get reelected? A combination of telling voters what they want to hear and a lack of a compelling message from the opposition.

I'm hardly an apologist for what is a de facto apartheid regime, but I'm willing to bet that no matter where you live, people outside your nation will insist on assuming that *your* citizens are like *their* citizens.

They're not. That's not a value judgment on who is "right", simply an acknowledgement that people are a product of their environment - and the voters are going to support the political parties that they percieve will best serve their interests
 
2013-01-22 07:52:21 AM
So do we blatantly interfere in Israeli elections like they do with ours?
 
2013-01-22 07:53:57 AM

fastbow: Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?

Because, quite possibly, when you're surrounded by jerks who would like nothing more than the destruction of your nation and even your very people, sometimes an asshole can be tolerable as long as he's an asshole to the right people.

Plus, Israel doesn't elect him. His district elects him. Then his coalition places him as PM. If his district is in Jerusalem, an Israeli in Tel Aviv has absolutely no say in his election, unless they can break his party's hold on the Knesset.


Here's a crazy thought. They could stop voting for the pariesy that they know will make him PM.
 
2013-01-22 07:55:31 AM

fastbow: Because, quite possibly, when you're surrounded by jerks who would like nothing more than the destruction of your nation and even your very people


The whole reason people in the middle east don't like Israel is because the nation is full of brainwashed idiots who actually beleive this is the case.

Israel faces threats, yes. A lot of them, for sure. But the Palestinian goal, at least for the vast majority, is more along the lines of "human rights, jobs, and not quite as much military oppression" than it is "complete destruction of Israel and its people". So when Israel's answer to threats is to discriminate against Palestinians and use their military to blow up the West Bank or Gaza economy (again), guess what farking happens?
 
2013-01-22 08:34:07 AM

stratagos: Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?

Why did *insert politician you don't like here* get reelected? A combination of telling voters what they want to hear and a lack of a compelling message from the opposition.

I'm hardly an apologist for what is a de facto apartheid regime, but I'm willing to bet that no matter where you live, people outside your nation will insist on assuming that *your* citizens are like *their* citizens.

They're not. That's not a value judgment on who is "right", simply an acknowledgement that people are a product of their environment - and the voters are going to support the political parties that they percieve will best serve their interests


How are they a de facto apartheid regime? I've heard this accusation a fair bit, and Israel doesn't seem equivalent to South Africa, which is the gold standard for apartheid.
 
2013-01-22 08:35:21 AM

fastbow: Because, quite possibly, when you're surrounded by jerks who would like nothing more than the destruction of your nation and even your very people, sometimes an asshole can be tolerable as long as he's an asshole to the right people.


You know who else was an asshole to people that he thought was responsible for the destruction of his nation and his very people?
 
2013-01-22 08:49:22 AM

Nurglitch: stratagos: Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?

Why did *insert politician you don't like here* get reelected? A combination of telling voters what they want to hear and a lack of a compelling message from the opposition.

I'm hardly an apologist for what is a de facto apartheid regime, but I'm willing to bet that no matter where you live, people outside your nation will insist on assuming that *your* citizens are like *their* citizens.

They're not. That's not a value judgment on who is "right", simply an acknowledgement that people are a product of their environment - and the voters are going to support the political parties that they percieve will best serve their interests

How are they a de facto apartheid regime? I've heard this accusation a fair bit, and Israel doesn't seem equivalent to South Africa, which is the gold standard for apartheid.


It has to do with the creation of pseudo-autonomous Palestinian bantustans that are ostensibly not part of israel, but don't achieve any of the advantages of independence (similar to Lesotho and Swaziland during apartheid).

Getting from point A to point B in the west bank is a very different experience for West Bank residents than it is for Israelis.
 
2013-01-22 08:49:52 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?


Same reason people keep voting GOP, I guess.
 
2013-01-22 09:42:17 AM

Uncle Tractor: Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?

Same reason people keep voting GOP, I guess.


Not enough boots to the head?

// also, Israelis "elect" Bibi only inasmuch as they elect the individual party members that make up his coalition in Knesset
// it'd be like an Israeli asking why the US keeps electing Boehner as SotH
// I think the coalition should pick someone else, but Bibi's got experience if nothing else
 
2013-01-22 09:44:17 AM

Dr Dreidel: Uncle Tractor: Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?

Same reason people keep voting GOP, I guess.

Not enough boots to the head?

// also, Israelis "elect" Bibi only inasmuch as they elect the individual party members that make up his coalition in Knesset
// it'd be like an Israeli asking why the US keeps electing Boehner as SotH
// I think the coalition should pick someone else, but Bibi's got experience if nothing else


It does take years of work to become that big an asshole.
 
2013-01-22 09:52:05 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?


I thought he kept getting re-elected in part because the goddamn opposition(s) can't get their sh-t together so the vote gets split.

/anyone actually knowledgeable around?
//anyone?
///Bueller?
////hey.... where is Israel Poster Who Shall Not Be Named these days anyway?
 
2013-01-22 10:04:48 AM
Do the Palis get to vote for the Government that controls their everyday life with walls, troops, checkpoints, embargoes and "settlers"?
 
2013-01-22 10:53:00 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: hey.... where is Israel Poster Who Shall Not Be Named these days anyway?


That's a good question. I remember calling him out in a thread a couple months ago and he never showed. But I feel like tempting fate again, so here goes:

Tatsuma,
Tatsuma,
Tatsuma!!!


Also, just to get this one out of the way:

static.fjcdn.com
 
2013-01-22 11:38:58 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?


they don't he came in 2nd in the last election (well his party did). In order to form a government in Israel you need 61 seats of 120. Livini, who's party Kadima won, was unable to form a government because the parties to the right wouldn't join her. Bibi was able to hold them off by offering them a better deal and was able to surpass the 61 seats when given the chance after Livini failed
 
2013-01-22 11:39:30 AM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

Approves
 
2013-01-22 11:50:53 AM
Just to clarify Israel is a parliamentary system were people vote by party not person. Each party publishes a list with names of candidates and position number, if they win 10 seats the first 10 names get seats.

The portfolio positions (cabinet level) are assigned to Members of the Knesset by the winning party. For example in return for joining the coalition to reach 61 seats the winning party might offer the education ministry to another party, it is common that a religious party will get this portfolio so they can funnel funds to religious schools.

A lot of politics go into getting to 61+ seats and sometimes parties can even swap seats to achieve it. I think it was only once earlier in their history one party got past 61 on its own. Today that is nearly impossible
 
2013-01-22 12:13:39 PM
I boldly predict that this election will change nothing.
 
2013-01-22 12:24:14 PM
This looks to be a very different election than was predicted a week ago.

Record voter turnout, and poor Likud performance mean that even if Bibi keeps his position as Prime Minister he's going to operating from a much weaker position.
 
2013-01-22 01:20:20 PM
Nuke 'em from space!

It's the only way to be sure...
 
2013-01-22 03:09:01 PM
WOW! The staggering lack of knowledge of Israel in this thread...
Oh, yeah, Fark. never mind.

Polls are closed.
Link to official election results in Engish.
I'm assuming the link will go active when ballots start being counted.
In the meantime TV News exit polls are on coming out now.
 
2013-01-22 03:15:22 PM
Wow Bibi took a beating.
 
2013-01-22 03:16:05 PM
re apartheid in Israel:

Arab woman voting in Israeli elections
sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2013-01-22 03:33:08 PM

tjassen: re apartheid in Israel:

Arab woman voting in Israeli elections
[sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net image 470x264]


You know that some non-whites could vote under apartheid as well, right?
 
2013-01-22 03:34:48 PM

tjassen: re apartheid in Israel:

Arab woman voting in Israeli elections
[sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net image 470x264]


So can the settlers who live in the occupied territories vote in Israeli elections? Can the Palestinians who live next door to them?
 
2013-01-22 03:53:57 PM
Exit polls show Likud plummets (31 seats) and Yesh Atid astonishes (19 seats). Link
 
2013-01-22 04:02:48 PM
Is a weak Netanyahu government more or less likely to start a war with Iran?
 
2013-01-22 04:13:55 PM

tjassen: WOW! The staggering lack of knowledge of Israel in this thread...
Oh, yeah, Fark. never mind.


No kidding.

LordPomposity: Philip Francis Queeg: Why do the Israelis keep electing that asshole?

Because they're assholes.


Because they're Israelis, and they don't think like you, and their circumstances are different. For example, they don't share the world's longest undefended border with a friendly neighbor. Or any borders with a friendly neighbor. And others in the neighborhood frequently call for their elimination while working actively on an atomic program. So yeah, things are a little different over there. Gun control and abortion aren't real high on their agenda. Also, they already licked the health care thing.
 
2013-01-22 04:17:25 PM

fastbow: Plus, Israel doesn't elect him. His district elects him. Then his coalition places him as PM. If his district is in Jerusalem, an Israeli in Tel Aviv has absolutely no say in his election, unless they can break his party's hold on the Knesset.


No.

zedster: Just to clarify Israel is a parliamentary system were people vote by for party not person. Each party publishes a list with names of candidates and position number, if they win 10 seats the first 10 names get seats.


Yes.
 
2013-01-22 04:21:12 PM

Galloping Galoshes: And others in the neighborhood frequently call for their elimination while working actively on an atomic program.


Perhaps if Israel signed the NPT, followed it's requirements and came clean about their nuclear programs their protests on the issue would not ring so hollow.
 
2013-01-22 04:30:32 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Galloping Galoshes: And others in the neighborhood frequently call for their elimination while working actively on an atomic program.

Perhaps if Israel signed the NPT, followed it's requirements and came clean about their nuclear programs their protests on the issue would not ring so hollow.


Right. Things were great over there before Israel got nukes. You've obviously gone right to the heart of the problem.
Israel reportedly had nukes available before the '73 war. If they didn't use them then, it's not likely they'd use them except in extremis. That's not a statement I think that could be made of her neighbors. Besides, the way things are going in the arab countries, you can't say who would be in charge from day to day.
 
2013-01-22 04:31:45 PM

RevCarter: tjassen: re apartheid in Israel:

Arab woman voting in Israeli elections
[sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net image 470x264]

You know that some non-whites could vote under apartheid as well, right?


Philip Francis Queeg: tjassen: re apartheid in Israel:

Arab woman voting in Israeli elections
[sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net image 470x264]

So can the settlers who live in the occupied territories vote in Israeli elections? Can the Palestinians who live next door to them?


ALL citizens of Israel have the right to vote in Israeli elections
Doesn't matter if they are Arab, Beduin, Jews, Bahai, Druze, Circassian.
Each vote counts the same no more no less.
The Palestinians next door are not citizens of Israel.
Hence they do not vote in the Israeli elections.
 
2013-01-22 04:33:22 PM

RevCarter: tjassen: re apartheid in Israel:

Arab woman voting in Israeli elections
[sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net image 470x264]

You know that some non-whites could vote under apartheid as well, right?


Where is your outrage at Arab dictatorships? Where is your outrage that if Arab leaders don't get their way, they don't have a vote on it, they simply kill dissenters.

To think, that a small democratic country is the focal point of all worldwide fury is completely insane.
 
2013-01-22 04:41:57 PM

tjassen: RevCarter: tjassen: re apartheid in Israel:

Arab woman voting in Israeli elections
[sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net image 470x264]

You know that some non-whites could vote under apartheid as well, right?

Philip Francis Queeg: tjassen: re apartheid in Israel:

Arab woman voting in Israeli elections
[sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net image 470x264]

So can the settlers who live in the occupied territories vote in Israeli elections? Can the Palestinians who live next door to them?

ALL citizens of Israel have the right to vote in Israeli elections
Doesn't matter if they are Arab, Beduin, Jews, Bahai, Druze, Circassian.
Each vote counts the same no more no less.
The Palestinians next door are not citizens of Israel.
Hence they do not vote in the Israeli elections.


That's odd. Why would the settlers who live in the occupied territories have different rights than their neighbors? I know it must be that the settlers have applied for Palestinian citizenship and the paperwork isn't completed yet.
 
2013-01-22 04:45:05 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Philip Francis Queeg: Galloping Galoshes: And others in the neighborhood frequently call for their elimination while working actively on an atomic program.

Perhaps if Israel signed the NPT, followed it's requirements and came clean about their nuclear programs their protests on the issue would not ring so hollow.

Right. Things were great over there before Israel got nukes. You've obviously gone right to the heart of the problem.
Israel reportedly had nukes available before the '73 war. If they didn't use them then, it's not likely they'd use them except in extremis. That's not a statement I think that could be made of her neighbors. Besides, the way things are going in the arab countries, you can't say who would be in charge from day to day.


Yeah, thing were awesome while Israel was proliferating nuclear weapons technology to the aparthied era South African government. Israel really showed the world they can uniquely be trusted with nukes outside of international agreements..
 
2013-01-22 04:53:55 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: eah, thing were awesome while Israel was proliferating nuclear weapons technology to the aparthied era South African government. Israel really showed the world they can uniquely be trusted with nukes outside of international agreements..


They didn't sign the NPT, they aren't bound by it. You trade with who will trade with you, with what you have to trade. The Oil Arabs maintain a blacklist, which severely limits Israels opportunities. And signing the NPT would have helped that a tinker's damn. Besides, that work with SA had no affect on anything whatsoever. So what's your point? Israel and the NPT is a straw man. The US and USSR, NPT signatories, have come far closer several times to using nukes on each other than Israel has. And those are your best examples. Besides, why should anyone listen to you? You don't have a dog in Israel's fight. You've got no skin in the game. It's real easy to make recommendations when you're not affected either way.
 
2013-01-22 04:59:50 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Philip Francis Queeg: eah, thing were awesome while Israel was proliferating nuclear weapons technology to the aparthied era South African government. Israel really showed the world they can uniquely be trusted with nukes outside of international agreements..

They didn't sign the NPT, they aren't bound by it. You trade with who will trade with you, with what you have to trade. The Oil Arabs maintain a blacklist, which severely limits Israels opportunities. And signing the NPT would have helped that a tinker's damn. Besides, that work with SA had no affect on anything whatsoever. So what's your point? Israel and the NPT is a straw man. The US and USSR, NPT signatories, have come far closer several times to using nukes on each other than Israel has. And those are your best examples. Besides, why should anyone listen to you? You don't have a dog in Israel's fight. You've got no skin in the game. It's real easy to make recommendations when you're not affected either way.


I agree, I have no dog in Israel's fight to get Iran to follow a treaty they themselves will not follow. Their hollow and hypocritical protests are entirely unconvincing to me, as I said.

I certainly hope that if Israel decides to take military action against Iran that they understand, as you do, that the US should not be affected at all and should not expect the slightest bit of aid or support.
 
2013-01-22 05:03:20 PM

Horrendous Space Kablooie: RevCarter: tjassen: re apartheid in Israel:

Arab woman voting in Israeli elections
[sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net image 470x264]

You know that some non-whites could vote under apartheid as well, right?

Where is your outrage at Arab dictatorships? Where is your outrage that if Arab leaders don't get their way, they don't have a vote on it, they simply kill dissenters.

To think, that a small democratic country is the focal point of all worldwide fury is completely insane.


I express my outrage towards Arab dictatorships in threads about Arab dictatorships. This, however, is a thread about the Israel elections, so I think it's the correct place for me to express my disappointment with aspects of the Israeli political process.

I've spent a substantial amount of time in Israel and the Occupied Territories. Both of my brothers served in combat as infantrymen in the Givati, and my two younger sisters both recently finished their service in the IDF. Based on my experiences in Israel, and my knowledge of history, I have no doubt that Israel is an apartheid country.

Is it better than Saudi Arabia or Pakistan? Absolutely. But that's a pretty low bar to set your standards by.
 
2013-01-22 05:09:39 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: tjassen: RevCarter: tjassen: re apartheid in Israel:

Arab woman voting in Israeli elections
[sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net image 470x264]

You know that some non-whites could vote under apartheid as well, right?

Philip Francis Queeg: tjassen: re apartheid in Israel:

Arab woman voting in Israeli elections
[sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net image 470x264]

So can the settlers who live in the occupied territories vote in Israeli elections? Can the Palestinians who live next door to them?

ALL citizens of Israel have the right to vote in Israeli elections
Doesn't matter if they are Arab, Beduin, Jews, Bahai, Druze, Circassian.
Each vote counts the same no more no less.
The Palestinians next door are not citizens of Israel.
Hence they do not vote in the Israeli elections.

That's odd. Why would the settlers who live in the occupied territories have different rights than their neighbors? I know it must be that the settlers have applied for Palestinian citizenship and the paperwork isn't completed yet.


Is the concept of citizens living outside the territory of a sovereign state yet still being eligible to vote in that state's national elections so difficult to grasp?

(That's a rhetorical question, because apparently the answer for you is Yes, it is difficult).
 
2013-01-22 05:16:38 PM

tjassen: Is the concept of citizens living outside the territory of a sovereign state yet still being eligible to vote in that state's national elections so difficult to grasp?

(That's a rhetorical question, because apparently the answer for you is Yes, it is difficult).


So the occupied territories are outside the sovereign state of Israel? Well , then it is damn nice of the Palestinians to allow the settlers to emigrate into their lands. I'm sure Palestinians from the occupied territories are equally welcome to relocate into Israel, correct?
 
2013-01-22 05:30:20 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: I agree, I have no dog in Israel's fight to get Iran to follow a treaty they themselves will not follow. Their hollow and hypocritical protests are entirely unconvincing to me, as I said.


Actually, since they are not signatories, they are under no obligation at all. Iran is a signatory, is under obligation, and is not living up to them. And not being a signatory to a treaty does not make a country a hypocrite to point out that a country that has made many existential threats and is supporting a proxy war poses a significant security threat should they achieve nuclear weapons.

Your definition of hypocrite needs reexamination.

Philip Francis Queeg: I certainly hope that if Israel decides to take military action against Iran that they understand, as you do, that the US should not be affected at all and should not expect the slightest bit of aid or support.


Let's see. Israel bombed Osirak and was condemned. Current and later intelligence showed Iraq was indeed working on a nuke. In the first Gulf War, Iraq attacked Israel via ballistic missile. As a bonus, Israel withheld retaliation at the request of the US so the US could maintain its Arab coalition. How different would the world be if Israel had not taken out Osirak?

Iran is pursuing a nuke. Iran is resisting its obligations under the NPT. Iran has threatened to destroy Israel. Nukes would give Iran the capacity to do so. In addition, nukes would give Iran veto power over all oil activities in the Gulf area. That is a strategic threat to the US. If Israel sets back an Iranian nuke, that directly benefits the US.

You take offense at Israel's not signing the NPT but claiming that Iran getting a nuke would be a severe provocation and security threat. Based on observable facts, Israel's statement is true. If Iran gets a nuke, and Israel doesn't attack, Israel and Iran will be in a very nervous game of MAD. However, the biggest loser is the US, because consideration of what Iran can do to the area will greatly outweigh what the US might do.
 
2013-01-22 05:37:15 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Philip Francis Queeg: I agree, I have no dog in Israel's fight to get Iran to follow a treaty they themselves will not follow. Their hollow and hypocritical protests are entirely unconvincing to me, as I said.

Actually, since they are not signatories, they are under no obligation at all. Iran is a signatory, is under obligation, and is not living up to them. And not being a signatory to a treaty does not make a country a hypocrite to point out that a country that has made many existential threats and is supporting a proxy war poses a significant security threat should they achieve nuclear weapons.

Your definition of hypocrite needs reexamination.

Philip Francis Queeg: I certainly hope that if Israel decides to take military action against Iran that they understand, as you do, that the US should not be affected at all and should not expect the slightest bit of aid or support.

Let's see. Israel bombed Osirak and was condemned. Current and later intelligence showed Iraq was indeed working on a nuke. In the first Gulf War, Iraq attacked Israel via ballistic missile. As a bonus, Israel withheld retaliation at the request of the US so the US could maintain its Arab coalition. How different would the world be if Israel had not taken out Osirak?

Iran is pursuing a nuke. Iran is resisting its obligations under the NPT. Iran has threatened to destroy Israel. Nukes would give Iran the capacity to do so. In addition, nukes would give Iran veto power over all oil activities in the Gulf area. That is a strategic threat to the US. If Israel sets back an Iranian nuke, that directly benefits the US.

You take offense at Israel's not signing the NPT but claiming that Iran getting a nuke would be a severe provocation and security threat. Based on observable facts, Israel's statement is true. If Iran gets a nuke, and Israel doesn't attack, Israel and Iran will be in a very nervous game of MAD. However, the biggest loser is the US, because consideration of what Ira ...


So now it does affect me. I guess that means I am allowed to have an opinion on the issue then? Or am I only allowed to have an opinion that states that Israel is completely in the right and Iran is completely in the wrong?

Speaking of security threats, does Iran have any reason for concern considering what actions have been taken by the US to the countries immediately to their east and west?
 
2013-01-22 05:42:39 PM
Will the left ever figure out that genocidal Jew hatred is the real problem and that because of it there's never going to be peace?
 
2013-01-22 05:46:25 PM

tjassen: The Palestinians next door are not citizens of Israel.
Hence they do not vote in the Israeli elections.


If they are not citizens of Israel, why does Israel act as if the land they live on is part of Israel? Depending on where you think the israeli borders are, the answer is one of the following:

1: The WB colonies and the Gaza blockade are a part of Israel's expansionist lebensraum policies.
2: Gaza and the WB are part of Israel, and Israel is an apartheid state.

Also:
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2013-01-22 05:48:07 PM

randomjsa: Will the left ever figure out that genocidal Jew hatred is the real problem and that because of it there's never going to be peace?


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2013-01-22 05:49:57 PM

crab66: So do we blatantly interfere in Israeli elections like they do with ours?


That could be fun. How about this:

"You elect the guy the US likes or no more US dollars for you."
 
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