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2013-01-22 06:42:46 AM  
The last time I got charged for water at a club, I went around the back of the club and pulled the main fuse and ran away.
 
2013-01-22 06:45:42 AM  
Was it a strip club?
 
2013-01-22 07:41:46 AM  
static.stuff.co.nz

Well of course, that thing is huge!
 
2013-01-22 08:29:55 AM  
The problem with this world isn't that they're charging 4.50 to turn a tap on for 3 seconds, it's that a lot of people are reading this and trying to figure out if THEY can pull that sh*t, as well.
 
2013-01-22 09:23:42 AM  

bunner: The problem with this world isn't that they're charging 4.50 to turn a tap on for 3 seconds, it's that a lot of people are reading this and trying to figure out if THEY can pull that sh*t, as well.


I could never do a thing like that.

I don't even own a bar.
 
2013-01-22 09:32:44 AM  

DON.MAC: The last time I got charged for water at a club, I went around the back of the club and pulled the main fuse and ran away.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-22 09:40:59 AM  
Bottled water is tap water in many cases.
 
2013-01-22 09:41:19 AM  
I used to own a bar. This is illegal. If you run ANY kind of place of commerce open to the public that is coded above a certain threshold for occupancy, you MUST provide bathrooms and a source of water free of charge to the public. Some fast food restaurants get around it and can lock the bathrooms without a code/receipt because they are only approved to have an occupancy of 20 or 30, but every night club is going to be at at least 70.

Also I hope it was worth the loss of business to this owner to get the satisfaction of expressing his hubris.
 
2013-01-22 09:45:17 AM  
At least she didn't start a war, a nuclear war, at the gay bar.

/Though she probably should have.
 
2013-01-22 09:54:32 AM  

Tommy Moo: I used to own a bar. This is illegal. If you run ANY kind of place of commerce open to the public that is coded above a certain threshold for occupancy, you MUST provide bathrooms and a source of water free of charge to the public.


Here's a thought: The local laws you were required to operated under might not extend to bars in New Zealand.
 
2013-01-22 09:55:45 AM  
You don't suppose the charge was because she was a woman at a gay club?
 
2013-01-22 10:04:47 AM  

Another Government Employee: You don't suppose the charge was because she was a woman at a gay club?


Only straight white guys can be bigots.
 
2013-01-22 10:10:19 AM  

Another Government Employee: You don't suppose the charge was because she was a woman at a gay club?


i769.photobucket.com
That's funny! Why would a woman be at a gay bar?
 
2013-01-22 10:15:34 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: At least she didn't start a war, a nuclear war, at the gay bar.

/Though she probably should have.


GAH! Came here to say this. Tiny fist, etc.
 
2013-01-22 10:16:39 AM  

bunner: The problem with this world isn't that they're charging 4.50 to turn a tap on for 3 seconds, it's that a lot of people are reading this and trying to figure out if THEY can pull that sh*t, as well.


I think the real problem is people are willing to pay for it...
 
2013-01-22 10:17:22 AM  

DON.MAC: The last time I got charged for water at a club, I went around the back of the club and pulled the main fuse and ran away.


If that's true, it's awesome.
 
2013-01-22 10:23:44 AM  
9 dollas for a coke? I can get a blowjob for 9 dollas
 
2013-01-22 10:27:49 AM  
well, i have a few problems with the story. many bars offer free stuff to designated drivers, like coffee or sodas. water, in general, should always be free. you've got people drinking. the point is to get money off of them while they enjoy themselves and don't get sick. free water might even help sales in the long run.

then I got to thinking. if this bar has such a problem with lost profits to water drinkers, then their problem is that not enough people are buying real drinks. this only happens at two types of venues: underage venues and venues where drug use is more common than alcohol.

/ but, then the bar person said that they offer free water to anyone buying drinks, and this person didn't buy any drinks. so... whatever. they paid a farking cover charge. bars that charge covers lose the ability to kick people out for not buying a drink.
 
2013-01-22 10:31:02 AM  

pute kisses like a man: well, i have a few problems with the story. many bars offer free stuff to designated drivers, like coffee or sodas. water, in general, should always be free. you've got people drinking. the point is to get money off of them while they enjoy themselves and don't get sick. free water might even help sales in the long run.

then I got to thinking. if this bar has such a problem with lost profits to water drinkers, then their problem is that not enough people are buying real drinks. this only happens at two types of venues: underage venues and venues where drug use is more common than alcohol.

/ but, then the bar person said that they offer free water to anyone buying drinks, and this person didn't buy any drinks. so... whatever. they paid a farking cover charge. bars that charge covers lose the ability to kick people out for not buying a drink.


Who the fark pays a cover? That's some retarded shiat, like I'm going to pay a place to come in and spend money there, HA!
 
2013-01-22 10:41:45 AM  

Sybarite: [static.stuff.co.nz image 238x286]

Well of course, that thing is huge!


Is she supposed to look like she's resting her hands on a giant glass except the photo is taken from the wrong angle? That picture confuses me.
 
2013-01-22 10:44:59 AM  
The girl in the photo looks like the Toy Yoda biatch. I guess she's scamming down under now.
 
2013-01-22 10:45:37 AM  

Girion47: pute kisses like a man: well, i have a few problems with the story. many bars offer free stuff to designated drivers, like coffee or sodas. water, in general, should always be free. you've got people drinking. the point is to get money off of them while they enjoy themselves and don't get sick. free water might even help sales in the long run.

then I got to thinking. if this bar has such a problem with lost profits to water drinkers, then their problem is that not enough people are buying real drinks. this only happens at two types of venues: underage venues and venues where drug use is more common than alcohol.

/ but, then the bar person said that they offer free water to anyone buying drinks, and this person didn't buy any drinks. so... whatever. they paid a farking cover charge. bars that charge covers lose the ability to kick people out for not buying a drink.

Who the fark pays a cover? That's some retarded shiat, like I'm going to pay a place to come in and spend money there, HA!


Where I work as a door man on weekends, all the cover charges go to the band. (With a cut off the top to pay me and the other guy manning the doors). The club only makes money off booze. And yes there's free self serve water. Don't bother asking the overworked bartender for water.
 
2013-01-22 10:46:23 AM  

THX 1138: Tommy Moo: I used to own a bar. This is illegal. If you run ANY kind of place of commerce open to the public that is coded above a certain threshold for occupancy, you MUST provide bathrooms and a source of water free of charge to the public.

Here's a thought: The local laws you were required to operated under might not extend to bars in New Zealand.


Yeah, didn't catch that.
 
2013-01-22 10:47:23 AM  

Sybarite: [static.stuff.co.nz image 238x286]

Well of course, that thing is huge!


She's not quite cute enough or busty enough to win this argument.
 
2013-01-22 10:52:41 AM  

doofusgumby: Girion47: pute kisses like a man: well, i have a few problems with the story. many bars offer free stuff to designated drivers, like coffee or sodas. water, in general, should always be free. you've got people drinking. the point is to get money off of them while they enjoy themselves and don't get sick. free water might even help sales in the long run.

then I got to thinking. if this bar has such a problem with lost profits to water drinkers, then their problem is that not enough people are buying real drinks. this only happens at two types of venues: underage venues and venues where drug use is more common than alcohol.

/ but, then the bar person said that they offer free water to anyone buying drinks, and this person didn't buy any drinks. so... whatever. they paid a farking cover charge. bars that charge covers lose the ability to kick people out for not buying a drink.

Who the fark pays a cover? That's some retarded shiat, like I'm going to pay a place to come in and spend money there, HA!

Where I work as a door man on weekends, all the cover charges go to the band. (With a cut off the top to pay me and the other guy manning the doors). The club only makes money off booze. And yes there's free self serve water. Don't bother asking the overworked bartender for water.


paying to see a band makes sense, but paying to get in a pub? fark that.
 
2013-01-22 10:54:34 AM  

THX 1138: Here's a thought: The local laws you were required to operated under might not extend to bars in New Zealand.


Or even to the next city a few miles away.
 
2013-01-22 11:22:09 AM  
I'm curious what happens the first time somebody becomes dehydrated from dancing at the club and collapses.  Bring in the lawyers...
 
2013-01-22 11:30:07 AM  

Dinjiin: I'm curious what happens the first time somebody becomes dehydrated from dancing at the club and collapses.  Bring in the lawyers...


That is easy...blame the ecstasy and move on.
 
2013-01-22 11:38:02 AM  

Burr: bunner: The problem with this world isn't that they're charging 4.50 to turn a tap on for 3 seconds, it's that a lot of people are reading this and trying to figure out if THEY can pull that sh*t, as well.

I think the real problem is people are willing to pay for it...


MDMA and dehydration.
 
2013-01-22 11:39:15 AM  
When I did bar work I once answered an order for a water by saying. "Hey look, mister. We serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere". Is that clear, or do I have to slip you my left for a convincer"

They did not get it.
 
2013-01-22 11:45:55 AM  

bighairyguy: Sybarite: [static.stuff.co.nz image 238x286]

Well of course, that thing is huge!

She's not quite cute enough or busty enough to win this argument.


Hence why she had to pay in the first place.
 
2013-01-22 11:46:31 AM  
Clubs in the Miami area charge $500 cover just to get in the door when certain DJs come to town....and people pay it...
 
2013-01-22 11:50:56 AM  
Usually bars give free water, and even soda/iced teas to people. Its assumed those people are often the DDs for the night, so they kinda want to take care of those people.
 
2013-01-22 12:13:08 PM  
I know when I was younger most bars gave free water, coffee soda(pop) to the DD which for us meant getting a stamp at the door and then Yay free mix for the booze we snuck in.
 
2013-01-22 12:19:50 PM  
How is it gouging? Don't go there and/or don't order the tap water. Problem solved.
 
2013-01-22 12:24:19 PM  

Saiga410: When I did bar work I once answered an order for a water by saying. "Hey look, mister. We serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere". Is that clear, or do I have to slip you my left for a convincer"

They did not get it.


It was a wonderful line.
 
2013-01-22 12:42:53 PM  
As an American living in Switzerland, that's one of the big things I miss about the US. The Swiss are notoriously bad about water: they'll bring you a bottle of mineral water for like $3-$4, but heaven forbid you ask for tap water. Water with ice is essentially unheard of in restaurants.

I've heard the Germans are pretty bad too (but I only drink beer when I'm in Germany, so I have no idea). The Italians are also bad: they'll charge you a cover for sitting down at a restaurant and the only water they have to drink is mineral water.

/misses ice water and free refills on soda and water
//also misses temperatures above freezing
 
2013-01-22 01:08:02 PM  
I went to a smallish outdoor concert once, in the middle of the summer, and no one was allowed to bring in water bottles--because they were selling water inside the fence.

I didn't pay and I didn't go in. Instead, I went up on the hill and listened to the concert for free, in uncrowded, water-drinking bliss.

/stuff like that loses my money instantly.
 
2013-01-22 01:18:06 PM  

heypete: As an American living in Switzerland, that's one of the big things I miss about the US. The Swiss are notoriously bad about water: they'll bring you a bottle of mineral water for like $3-$4, but heaven forbid you ask for tap water. Water with ice is essentially unheard of in restaurants.


Same goes for coffee.  One time I asked for iced coffee in Switzerland, the waiter brought out coffee flavored ice cream.  I should have asked for "kaffee mit eis" instead of "eiskaffee".
 
2013-01-22 01:42:51 PM  

Dinjiin: heypete: As an American living in Switzerland, that's one of the big things I miss about the US. The Swiss are notoriously bad about water: they'll bring you a bottle of mineral water for like $3-$4, but heaven forbid you ask for tap water. Water with ice is essentially unheard of in restaurants.

Same goes for coffee.  One time I asked for iced coffee in Switzerland, the waiter brought out coffee flavored ice cream.  I should have asked for "kaffee mit eis" instead of "eiskaffee".


I once ordered a shrimp cocktail and was disappointed in the lack of alcohol it contained.
 
2013-01-22 02:33:26 PM  

Girion47: Who the fark pays a cover? That's some retarded shiat, like I'm going to pay a place to come in and spend money there, HA!


I have a pretty religious aversion to cover charges. a cover charge tells me, this bar is not for me. it means: it's a desirable place to be for the masses, which means it's crowded (with stupid people), it likely means that there will be loud crappy music. it also means that they can boost their revenue by charging a cover, which means they've already boosted their drink prices as high as they can go.

so, overpriced drinks, overcrowded area, attractive to the masses (who always have bad taste).

unless,

Girion47: Where I work as a door man on weekends, all the cover charges go to the band...

paying to see a band makes sense, but paying to get in a pub? fark that.


i can pay to see a band. that's not a problem.

but, even then, i would still expect to get some water for free. if that means going over to the cooler and getting it myself, that's fine. i actually prefer this over waiting at the bar to get water.
 
2013-01-22 02:39:16 PM  

theFword: I once ordered a shrimp cocktail and was disappointed in the lack of alcohol it contained.


You should have ordered more shots for the shrimp prior to your meal.
 
2013-01-22 03:26:55 PM  
That's nothing. IHOP charges a buck a toast.
 
2013-01-22 03:38:36 PM  

cryinoutloud: I went to a smallish outdoor concert once, in the middle of the summer, and no one was allowed to bring in water bottles--because they were selling water inside the fence.

I didn't pay and I didn't go in. Instead, I went up on the hill and listened to the concert for free, in uncrowded, water-drinking bliss.

/stuff like that loses my money instantly.


That's SOP at most outdoor music festivals these days. It's also incredibly inane. Lots of kids trying drugs, lots of kids with little money, and no access to water. What could go wrong?

/paid $40 for a 6-pack of beer at my hotel last weekend
/still irked about it
 
2013-01-22 04:03:37 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: Bottled water is tap water in many cases.


name one?
 
2013-01-22 04:09:13 PM  

tbhouston: SN1987a goes boom: Bottled water is tap water in many cases.

name one?


Link

That's just a Google link, but it shows links to many reports.  I can't say which are correct, but I'm pretty sure a lot of bottled water is municipal water.

And people don't care.  Most people like bottled water for the convienence.
 
2013-01-22 04:14:01 PM  

tbhouston: SN1987a goes boom: Bottled water is tap water in many cases.

name one?


Aquafina

and from this...

"Read the label carefully. If it is packaged as "purified" or "drinking water," chances are it came from a municipal water supply, and unless the water has been "substantially" altered, it must state on the label that the water comes from a municipal source.

Often images on the label show mountains, snow or other bodies of water. For example, the label design on Aquafina (from Pepsi) gives me the feeling of mountains and snow; implying that Aquafina may be from a mountain spring, rather than bottled at Pepsi plants using processed municipal water. Coke's Dasani, also one of the leading bottled water brands is processed municipal water with added minerals. Many gallon jug waters are also from municipal sources."

And yet i still drink bottled water at home. Then again, every year we used to get notices from the city stating we're getting fined because of the level of radium in the water.
 
2013-01-22 04:28:16 PM  

Petey4335: "Read the label carefully. If it is packaged as "purified" or "drinking water," chances are it came from a municipal water supply, and unless the water has been "substantially" altered, it must state on the label that the water comes from a municipal source.


Which really isn't as bad as it sounds.  They typically run it through several levels of filtration, a reverse-osmosis membrane and UV bombardment.  Then they add back a custom blend of minerals for taste.  Probably tastes as good, if not better, than what perks at the bottom of a glacier aquifer.


Petey4335: Then again, every year we used to get notices from the city stating we're getting fined because of the level of radium in the water.


Radium is supposedly fairly easy to filter.  Water softeners will swap radium with sodium or potassium.  An RO system will take care of the rest.  Probably easier for the city to mandate and subsidize on-premises filtration than to find and halt the naturally occurring source.
 
2013-01-22 04:50:18 PM  

caddisfly: cryinoutloud: I went to a smallish outdoor concert once, in the middle of the summer, and no one was allowed to bring in water bottles--because they were selling water inside the fence.

I didn't pay and I didn't go in. Instead, I went up on the hill and listened to the concert for free, in uncrowded, water-drinking bliss.

/stuff like that loses my money instantly.

That's SOP at most outdoor music festivals these days. It's also incredibly inane. Lots of kids trying drugs, lots of kids with little money, and no access to water. What could go wrong?

/paid $40 for a 6-pack of beer at my hotel last weekend
/still irked about it


You paid $40 for a sixer, and you're mad at the hotel about it? That just says you can't plan ahead, and you are so hard up for a beer that you would pay $6.66 a piece. You have no one to be mad at but yourself.
 
2013-01-22 04:50:53 PM  

caddisfly: cryinoutloud: I went to a smallish outdoor concert once, in the middle of the summer, and no one was allowed to bring in water bottles--because they were selling water inside the fence.

I didn't pay and I didn't go in. Instead, I went up on the hill and listened to the concert for free, in uncrowded, water-drinking bliss.

/stuff like that loses my money instantly.

That's SOP at most outdoor music festivals these days. It's also incredibly inane. Lots of kids trying drugs, lots of kids with little money, and no access to water. What could go wrong?

/paid $40 for a 6-pack of beer at my hotel last weekend
/still irked about it


Both Bonnaroo and Forecastle had a TON of free water stations and they're only adding to them for next year.

you just go to shiatty festivals.
 
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