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(Standard Digital (Kenya))   "Skyfall" includes prostitutes in Macau, a killing in Shanghai, and reference to torture by Chinese security. Except, of course, the officially-approved version in China, which has been edited to fit your world view   (standardmedia.co.ke) divider line 47
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2013-01-22 08:11:19 AM
1. Bond did not kill any security guards in Shanghai in  Skyfall. The guy he's following does
2. It didn't feel like "much" of the film was set in China. I mean, they filmed all the China scenes in the UK except for establishing shots in Shanghai and Macau.
3. Are the Chinese shocked that the gambling capital of the world has prostitutes?
 
2013-01-22 08:26:07 AM
The Chinese version of "A Christmas Story" has the family eating at a North Korean diner.
 
2013-01-22 08:40:25 AM
No biggie. Nobody here watches movies at the theater anyways; I'm pretty sure most of the population that's going to see Skyfall already has.
 
2013-01-22 08:49:34 AM
Skyfall was released internationally in 2012 and has become the biggest grossing film of all time, taking more than $1bn (£630m) at the box office.

Isn't it going need about another $1.8bn to beat Avatar?
 
2013-01-22 09:13:43 AM

Paris1127: 1. Bond did not kill any security guards in Shanghai in  Skyfall. The guy he's following does
2. It didn't feel like "much" of the film was set in China. I mean, they filmed all the China scenes in the UK except for establishing shots in Shanghai and Macau.
3. Are the Chinese shocked that the gambling capital of the world has prostitutes?


Glad to see this has all been covered.
 
2013-01-22 09:23:00 AM
Ironically, having state-sponsored movie censoring is a far worse indictment of your culture than anything contained in a Hollywood movie.
 
2013-01-22 09:28:56 AM
Again with the I have to do all the work around here:
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2013-01-22 09:34:38 AM
My wife and went to see Skyfall. We were the youngest people there (I'm almost 50...)

The damn old people were talking, rustling candy wrappers and playing with their cell phones the whole time.

It was almost surreal, and I had to fight the urge to tell them to be quiet
 
2013-01-22 09:55:27 AM

LittleSmitty: It was almost surreal, and I had to fight the urge to tell them to be quiet


Why would you fight that urge?
 
2013-01-22 09:55:49 AM

LittleSmitty: My wife and went to see Skyfall. We were the youngest people there (I'm almost 50...)

The damn old people were talking, rustling candy wrappers and playing with their cell phones the whole time.

It was almost surreal, and I had to fight the urge to tell them to be quiet


Don't worry. They're going to the Special Hell.
 
2013-01-22 10:11:02 AM

H31N0US: LittleSmitty: It was almost surreal, and I had to fight the urge to tell them to be quiet

Why would you fight that urge?


Because I'm not a "ssshhhh, be quiet" person, I'm a "STFU!" person and I didn't feel like getting into it with a bunch of self entitled Boomers
 
2013-01-22 10:15:28 AM
Also changed the name, as China's sky does indeed weigh enough now that it may fall any day.

www.zerohedge.com
 
2013-01-22 10:22:26 AM

Paris1127: 1. Bond did not kill any security guards in Shanghai in  Skyfall. The guy he's following does
2. It didn't feel like "much" of the film was set in China. I mean, they filmed all the China scenes in the UK except for establishing shots in Shanghai and Macau.
3. Are the Chinese shocked that the gambling capital of the world has prostitutes?


What about the guy that got eaten by the komodo dragon? Was that in Shanghai? Though I guess Bond doesn't technically kill him.
 
2013-01-22 10:25:06 AM
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2013-01-22 10:25:12 AM

LittleSmitty: My wife and went to see Skyfall. We were the youngest people there (I'm almost 50...)

The damn old people were talking, rustling candy wrappers and playing with their cell phones the whole time.

It was almost surreal, and I had to fight the urge to tell them to be quiet


I ran into that at Lincoln. And it was during the quiet scenes full of import that they got the loudest.
 
2013-01-22 10:39:25 AM

Hoboclown: Paris1127: 1. Bond did not kill any security guards in Shanghai in  Skyfall. The guy he's following does
2. It didn't feel like "much" of the film was set in China. I mean, they filmed all the China scenes in the UK except for establishing shots in Shanghai and Macau.
3. Are the Chinese shocked that the gambling capital of the world has prostitutes?

What about the guy that got eaten by the komodo dragon? Was that in Shanghai? Though I guess Bond doesn't technically kill him.


That was in Macau.
 
2013-01-22 10:40:22 AM
The movie "Black Hawk Down" featured a nerdy, coffee-obsessed clerk named Specialist Grimes.

pad.mymovies.it

The actual battle featured a nerdy, coffee-obsessed clerk named Spc. Stebbins (who is currently having a seat over in Leavenworth for the rest of his life).

It is a complete and total coincidence that the U.S. government only agreed to cooperate after Stebbins was removed from the script.
 
2013-01-22 10:47:40 AM

Sgt Otter: The actual battle featured a nerdy, coffee-obsessed clerk named Spc. Stebbins (who is currently having a seat over in Leavenworth for the rest of his life).


He was around 35 when he started his 30-year sentence.  He might live to see the outside world again.
 
2013-01-22 10:49:50 AM

Wellon Dowd: Hoboclown: Paris1127: 1. Bond did not kill any security guards in Shanghai in  Skyfall. The guy he's following does
2. It didn't feel like "much" of the film was set in China. I mean, they filmed all the China scenes in the UK except for establishing shots in Shanghai and Macau.
3. Are the Chinese shocked that the gambling capital of the world has prostitutes?

What about the guy that got eaten by the komodo dragon? Was that in Shanghai? Though I guess Bond doesn't technically kill him.

That was in Macau.


They were also really thugs/henchmen/goons, not like the guy guarding the skyscraper in Shanghai. I had forgotten about those fellows, but yeah, not Shanghai.

I would also add that China got maybe a half hour of the movie at most. Most of the film was set in the UK.
 
2013-01-22 10:50:56 AM

Girion47: LittleSmitty: My wife and went to see Skyfall. We were the youngest people there (I'm almost 50...)

The damn old people were talking, rustling candy wrappers and playing with their cell phones the whole time.

It was almost surreal, and I had to fight the urge to tell them to be quiet

I ran into that at Lincoln. And it was during the quiet scenes full of import that they got the loudest.


My parents don't go into theaters, but if a movie comes on the tv when I'm at their house....

"Wait, who is that?"
"Why did they do that?"
"Is that the same character as before?"
"What did they say?"
"She looks like a whore."

/sadly, they're not even that old...
 
2013-01-22 10:54:52 AM
Paris1127:
3. Are the Chinese shocked that the gambling capital of the world has prostitutes?
They don't like it when people talk about it, especially when it's sex slavery by powerful gangs that practically own the streets.
 
2013-01-22 11:00:34 AM

bifford: Paris1127:
3. Are the Chinese shocked that the gambling capital of the world has prostitutes?
They don't like it when people talk about it, especially when it's sex slavery by powerful gangs that practically own the streets.


It's been like that for a while. As the Portuguese were tidying up the colony for its return to China (which wasn't hard, as they really had little control over the colony following the Carnation Revolution back home and really wanted to get rid of Macau) Beijing demanded they deal with organized crime. They put away a dangerous gangster named Dog Tooth, but I don't think there were any other real successes. So China knew what they were getting into.
 
2013-01-22 11:18:11 AM

TheLopper: Girion47: LittleSmitty: My wife and went to see Skyfall. We were the youngest people there (I'm almost 50...)

The damn old people were talking, rustling candy wrappers and playing with their cell phones the whole time.

It was almost surreal, and I had to fight the urge to tell them to be quiet

I ran into that at Lincoln. And it was during the quiet scenes full of import that they got the loudest.

My parents don't go into theaters, but if a movie comes on the tv when I'm at their house....

"Wait, who is that?"
"Why did they do that?"
"Is that the same character as before?"
"What did they say?"
"She looks like a whore."

/sadly, they're not even that old...


I get that too from my parents and my best friend. But to defend my friend, he is not all there mentally so he does get a break when a movie is a little hard to follow (I.E. Total Recall). But my parents tend to want answers before the damn movie is over. Annoys me cause I tell them to watch the movie and Ill answer any and all questions at the end.
 
2013-01-22 11:38:10 AM
Are we sure this isn't the version for Ed Asner and Martin Sheen?
 
2013-01-22 11:53:34 AM
I ain't even mad. It's just...pathetic. That's the word for it. Pathetic.
 
2013-01-22 11:55:11 AM
I have to tell my dad the plot of every movie we go see, both before and after we see it. He also spoils movies I haven't seen, and then gets all offended when I then don't want to see them. Oy.
 
2013-01-22 12:50:50 PM

Sybarite: Skyfall was released internationally in 2012 and has become the biggest grossing film of all time, taking more than $1bn (£630m) at the box office.

Isn't it going need about another $1.8bn to beat Avatar?


I'm glad it wasn't just me that thought that odd. It wasn't even the highest grossing 2012 film (it was actually 3rd behind Avengers and Dark Night Rises). Maybe they meant highest grossing Bond film?
 
2013-01-22 12:53:20 PM

Sgt Otter: The movie "Black Hawk Down" featured a nerdy, coffee-obsessed clerk named Specialist Grimes.

[pad.mymovies.it image 420x449]

The actual battle featured a nerdy, coffee-obsessed clerk named Spc. Stebbins (who is currently having a seat over in Leavenworth for the rest of his life).

It is a complete and total coincidence that the U.S. government only agreed to cooperate after Stebbins was removed from the script.


You don't think that there's a difference between refusing to support a movie that glorifies a convicted pedophile and actively censoring a movie that you have nothing to do with?
 
2013-01-22 01:05:08 PM
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No ninjas allowed.

In Britain.
 
2013-01-22 01:48:17 PM

ib_thinkin: LittleSmitty: My wife and went to see Skyfall. We were the youngest people there (I'm almost 50...)

The damn old people were talking, rustling candy wrappers and playing with their cell phones the whole time.

It was almost surreal, and I had to fight the urge to tell them to be quiet

Don't worry. They're going to the Special Hell.


In Canada, it's called Swiss Chalet..

Wait. That's my version of hell.
 
2013-01-22 01:54:22 PM

Paris1127: It's been like that for a while. As the Portuguese were tidying up the colony for its return to China (which wasn't hard, as they really had little control over the colony following the Carnation Revolution back home and really wanted to get rid of Macau) Beijing demanded they deal with organized crime. They put away a dangerous gangster named Dog Tooth, but I don't think there were any other real successes. So China knew what they were getting into.


I remember reading years back that a Macau police chief said that tourists should not be afraid about the gang violence, because "our gangsters here are very good shots, and will not hit any tourists"
 
2013-01-22 03:32:40 PM

yves0010: TheLopper: Girion47: LittleSmitty: My wife and went to see Skyfall. We were the youngest people there (I'm almost 50...)

The damn old people were talking, rustling candy wrappers and playing with their cell phones the whole time.

It was almost surreal, and I had to fight the urge to tell them to be quiet

I ran into that at Lincoln. And it was during the quiet scenes full of import that they got the loudest.

My parents don't go into theaters, but if a movie comes on the tv when I'm at their house....

"Wait, who is that?"
"Why did they do that?"
"Is that the same character as before?"
"What did they say?"
"She looks like a whore."

/sadly, they're not even that old...

I get that too from my parents and my best friend. But to defend my friend, he is not all there mentally so he does get a break when a movie is a little hard to follow (I.E. Total Recall). But my parents tend to want answers before the damn movie is over. Annoys me cause I tell them to watch the movie and Ill answer any and all questions at the end.


This is why I go to movies alone and watch them on Netflix after everyone goes to bed at home. I cannot stand questions during the show/movie. Just shut up and watch it and if you don't get it, then, well, you either weren't watching hard enough or the movie was way over your head or you need to see the prequel or something.
 
2013-01-22 03:54:43 PM

TheLopper: Girion47: LittleSmitty: My wife and went to see Skyfall. We were the youngest people there (I'm almost 50...)

The damn old people were talking, rustling candy wrappers and playing with their cell phones the whole time.

It was almost surreal, and I had to fight the urge to tell them to be quiet

I ran into that at Lincoln. And it was during the quiet scenes full of import that they got the loudest.

My parents don't go into theaters, but if a movie comes on the tv when I'm at their house....

"Wait, who is that?"
"Why did they do that?"
"Is that the same character as before?"
"What did they say?"
"She looks like a whore."

/sadly, they're not even that old...


My girlfriend has a friend who does that. I got sick of it and said, "If you would just shut up and pay attention to the farking movie, you would already know."

She also will interject during fight scenes or when someone gets told, with a white equivalent to "Daaaaaamn!" She makes running commentary on how she thinks the plot is going to resolve itself. I hate it when she wants to watch a movie with us.

/she also has asked me if she can use my phone to look something up on the internet.
//my response: "Ha ha ha ha ha ha... Oh, you're serious? Then no."
///no one uses my phone but me and possibly my girlfriend, if she really needs to
 
2013-01-22 04:03:21 PM

meanmutton: Sybarite: Skyfall was released internationally in 2012 and has become the biggest grossing film of all time, taking more than $1bn (£630m) at the box office.

Isn't it going need about another $1.8bn to beat Avatar?

I'm glad it wasn't just me that thought that odd. It wasn't even the highest grossing 2012 film (it was actually 3rd behind Avengers and Dark Night Rises). Maybe they meant highest grossing Bond film?


That is what they meant. I wonder if that means they'll purposely hold back the next Bond for a few years to increase the anticipation for a big box office return?
 
2013-01-22 04:09:30 PM
In Canada, it's called Swiss Chalet..

Wait. That's my version of hell.

ah yes cotton head city, i'm still waiting for the to bring back all you can eat fries, the waitress was shocked when i asked for a 3rd plate, yes i'm fat
 
2013-01-22 04:40:50 PM

Shanghai_Flyer: Paris1127: It's been like that for a while. As the Portuguese were tidying up the colony for its return to China (which wasn't hard, as they really had little control over the colony following the Carnation Revolution back home and really wanted to get rid of Macau) Beijing demanded they deal with organized crime. They put away a dangerous gangster named Dog Tooth, but I don't think there were any other real successes. So China knew what they were getting into.

I remember reading years back that a Macau police chief said that tourists should not be afraid about the gang violence, because "our gangsters here are very good shots, and will not hit any tourists"


I think I read that just this summer in the Standard... I was on the ferry from Hong Kong to Macau and one of the stories was about Dog Tooth's impending release. He was such a powerful figure in old Macau that he got an HK director to direct a film about his life. Filming required them to shut down the Ponte Governador Nobre de Carvalho, then the only bridge connecting Macau to Taipa and Coloane. But instead of getting permits, they just blocked the bridge and the police did nothing. When he was arrested for one crime in the early 90s, the judge ordered him released on a technicality. The judge then retired suddenly back to Portugal. As for Dog Tooth, he's out of prison now and in hiding (convicted on other charges), having been told to stay away from Macau for a while.
 
2013-01-22 06:23:47 PM
Still think that China's purchase of the AMC theater chain won't be bad, feelty Amelicons?
 
2013-01-22 06:32:35 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Ironically, having state-sponsored movie censoring is a far worse indictment of your culture than anything contained in a Hollywood movie.


The BBFC's been about for about 70 years and we've still got fewer trainwrecks in the UK because of it. They;re just more notable when they happen.

/Restricting sale of age-related material > Recommending that it's not a good idea.
//101 years of malleable standards, though
 
2013-01-22 06:33:11 PM
**get rid of the 70 years bit, moron
 
2013-01-22 08:19:07 PM

meanmutton: Sgt Otter: The movie "Black Hawk Down" featured a nerdy, coffee-obsessed clerk named Specialist Grimes.

[pad.mymovies.it image 420x449]

The actual battle featured a nerdy, coffee-obsessed clerk named Spc. Stebbins (who is currently having a seat over in Leavenworth for the rest of his life).

It is a complete and total coincidence that the U.S. government only agreed to cooperate after Stebbins was removed from the script.

You don't think that there's a difference between refusing to support a movie that glorifies a convicted pedophile and actively censoring a movie that you have nothing to do with?


Why should the military get to pick and choose which movies can rent available military facilities anymore than a city can choose who gets to hold a parade on public streets or hold an event in a public park? Granted this isn't the most sympathetic case but officially the military's editorial discretion is supposed to be about whether the military is depicted accurately not whether it makes them look good.
 
2013-01-22 08:36:04 PM

Hoboclown: Paris1127: 1. Bond did not kill any security guards in Shanghai in  Skyfall. The guy he's following does
2. It didn't feel like "much" of the film was set in China. I mean, they filmed all the China scenes in the UK except for establishing shots in Shanghai and Macau.
3. Are the Chinese shocked that the gambling capital of the world has prostitutes?


What about the guy that got eaten by the komodo dragon?

Was that in Shanghai? Though I guess Bond doesn't technically kill him.

SPOILER!
 
2013-01-22 08:40:17 PM

Mara See Mara Do: I have to tell my dad the plot of every movie we go see, both before and after we see it. He also spoils movies I haven't seen, and then gets all offended when I then don't want to see them. Oy.


My Dad went to bed during  The Naturalright after Hobbs broke his bat. WTFF? But then again he has never been a big sports fan.
 
2013-01-22 09:11:32 PM

John Buck 41: Hoboclown: Paris1127: 1. Bond did not kill any security guards in Shanghai in  Skyfall. The guy he's following does
2. It didn't feel like "much" of the film was set in China. I mean, they filmed all the China scenes in the UK except for establishing shots in Shanghai and Macau.
3. Are the Chinese shocked that the gambling capital of the world has prostitutes?

What about the guy that got eaten by the komodo dragon?

Was that in Shanghai? Though I guess Bond doesn't technically kill him.

SPOILER!


That was fairly early in the movie, and didn't really change anything, but pretty cool to see.
 
2013-01-22 11:05:13 PM

Nem Wan: meanmutton: Sgt Otter: The movie "Black Hawk Down" featured a nerdy, coffee-obsessed clerk named Specialist Grimes.

[pad.mymovies.it image 420x449]

The actual battle featured a nerdy, coffee-obsessed clerk named Spc. Stebbins (who is currently having a seat over in Leavenworth for the rest of his life).

It is a complete and total coincidence that the U.S. government only agreed to cooperate after Stebbins was removed from the script.

You don't think that there's a difference between refusing to support a movie that glorifies a convicted pedophile and actively censoring a movie that you have nothing to do with?

Why should the military get to pick and choose which movies can rent available military facilities anymore than a city can choose who gets to hold a parade on public streets or hold an event in a public park? Granted this isn't the most sympathetic case but officially the military's editorial discretion is supposed to be about whether the military is depicted accurately not whether it makes them look good.


The purpose of the military is different than that of a city park or public street. In fact, I believe you to be wrong - the military's editorial discretion is about furthering the missions of the military, which often does mean making them look good.
 
2013-01-23 12:13:30 AM
"Great movie. Shame we'll have to cut it up to sooth the Chinese governments butthurt. Be we gotta have that sweet, sweet Chinese movie money!"


fark China, and fark Hollywood for going along with it.
 
2013-01-23 12:22:46 AM

Paris1127: 3. Are the Chinese shocked that the gambling capital of the world has prostitutes?


Prostitution is legal in Macau. Grey area legal, but legal.

It's grey area illegal in the mainland.

But they don't like to advertise this.
 
2013-01-23 01:16:14 AM

meanmutton: It is a complete and total coincidence that the U.S. government only agreed to cooperate after Stebbins was removed from the script.

You don't think that there's a difference between refusing to support a movie that glorifies a convicted pedophile and actively censoring a movie that you have nothing to do with?


At the time of the events in the movie, Stebbins seemed to be a pretty good soldier - good enough to earn the Silver Star for "Gallantry in action against an enemy of the United States."  That's only two rungs down from the Medal of Honor.  He turned rotten five years later.  You can still Google his name and find all the info - award list from Mogadishu, court ruling, etc.  If anything, I'd say the Army was afraid people will think he was a good guy until his experiences in the military turned him into a monster.
 
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