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2013-01-22 07:50:07 AM
I wonder what his view would be should he see a hentai game or two.


/Not that I know anything about that...
 
2013-01-22 07:50:21 AM
Hey Ralphie boy, thanks to you, W got elected in 00

You might want to lie low for a bit, like the next 100 years.
 
2013-01-22 07:53:29 AM
How do you associate Nader with any car other than a Corvair?
 
2013-01-22 08:26:50 AM
Or, you know, people could parent the mewling spawn the littered on this planet rather than expecting society to conform itself to suit their needs.

That would be something.
 
2013-01-22 09:11:26 AM
Wouldn't that be a more apt title for Michael Bay movies?
 
2013-01-22 09:11:48 AM
Video games have touched me, and I know that I've touched them.
 
2013-01-22 09:17:01 AM
i21.photobucket.com

Only some of them.
 
2013-01-22 09:17:14 AM

Ennuipoet: Or, you know, people could parent the mewling spawn the littered on this planet rather than expecting society to conform itself to suit their needs.

That would be something.


Yeah, but parenting is HARD. When we were kids, we didn't have the internet, video games were blocks fighting blocks, and kids knew when to shut the hell up.

Except that we've always had SneakerNet, Mortal Kombat came out 20 years ago, and before video games, it was music, comic books, jazz, and showing a bit of ankle on a hot summer night.

// I really though we'd moved past this 15 years ago when Marilyn Manson pwned the Columbine hysterics in Michael Moore's movie
 
2013-01-22 09:18:26 AM
"Television program violence? Unbelievable. Video game violence? Unprecedented," Nader told Politico. "I'm not saying he wants to censor this, I think he should sensitize people that they should protect their children family by family from these kinds of electronic child molesters."

I don't even know what this means.
 
2013-01-22 09:20:34 AM
Shut up Ralph Nader, you cock
 
2013-01-22 09:22:10 AM

PanicMan: "Television program violence? Unbelievable. Video game violence? Unprecedented," Nader told Politico. "I'm not saying he wants to censor this, I think he should sensitize people that they should protect their children family by family from these kinds of electronic child molesters."

I don't even know what this means.


Does he?
 
2013-01-22 09:22:14 AM
If you have a wierd kid that spends 10 hours a day playing Call of Duty please hide your guns.
 
2013-01-22 09:22:26 AM

baka-san: Hey Ralphie boy, thanks to you, W got elected in 00

You might want to lie low for a bit, like the next 100 years.


Nader voted for Bush?

/I know what you're saying
//I just don't buy into that silliness
 
2013-01-22 09:23:19 AM
I'm going to go with:
media.mlive.com
 
2013-01-22 09:23:44 AM

badhatharry: If you have a wierd kid that spends 10 hours a day playing Call of Duty please hide your remove your guns from the home.


FTFY
 
2013-01-22 09:23:47 AM
Someone's ready to post on 4chan.

Also, for fark's sake, Nader. Any sympathy and solidarity I felt for the green party deflated completely over the last thirteen years.

www.officialpsds.com

Like letting air out of a balloon!
 
2013-01-22 09:24:12 AM

PanicMan: "Television program violence? Unbelievable. Video game violence? Unprecedented," Nader told Politico. "I'm not saying he wants to censor this, I think he should sensitize people that they should protect their children family by family from these kinds of electronic child molesters."

I don't even know what this means.


Did he say "Only in America!" after that line? Are we sure the interviewer wasn't confusing Ralph Nadar with Don King?
 
2013-01-22 09:25:26 AM
Fark Ralph Nader. He gave us trillions of dollars of debt, thousands of dead and wounded volunteers, ruined our position in the world community and farked everthing up.

/blames Nader, then blames Bush
 
2013-01-22 09:25:40 AM
Electronic Child Molester? You mean Tickle Me Elmo?


Seriously though: The problem is not with the video games. Correlation does not equal causation. The video games don't make kids into disturbed violence-seekers. Disturbed violence seekers like video games.

I've been a video gamer for 30 years now, and you don't see me out jumping on turtles and stealing gold rings.
 
2013-01-22 09:26:07 AM
www.mmogrindhouse.com
 
2013-01-22 09:27:45 AM
Someone must have a new book coming out.

Nader represents everything that is wrong with the paternalistic left.
 
2013-01-22 09:28:32 AM

The Muthaship: How do you associate Nader with any car other than a Corvair?


Turns out Ralph is a big Ford guy, this is his personnel car with a 351 windsor
www.fordpinto.com
 
2013-01-22 09:29:11 AM
psychobuttons.com

The problem is the parents ignoring the game rating system and buying age inappropriate games for their children; just because the 'Jones' allow it for their kids.
 
2013-01-22 09:29:15 AM

baka-san: Hey Ralphie boy, thanks to you, W got elected in 00

You might want to lie low for a bit, like the next 100 years.


1) run away from one of your parties most popular presidents
2) tell thee base to eat shiat
3 ) ???
4) get a job on the motivational speaker circuit


Stay buthurt forever donkeys.
 
2013-01-22 09:30:04 AM

Dr Dreidel: // I really though we'd moved past this 15 years ago when Marilyn Manson pwned the Columbine hysterics in Michael Moore's movie


We aren't going to move past this until the boomers are dead.
 
2013-01-22 09:31:38 AM

Lost Thought 00: Someone must have a new book coming out.

Nader represents everything that is wrong with the paternalistic left.


This is hardly a "left" thing, unless you think Wayne LaPierre is also "left".

This is a paternalistic, ignorant, attention-whoring asshat thing.
 
2013-01-22 09:32:50 AM
I'm gonna have to call BS. Kids used to go to public hangings, for heaven's sake. We going to take away plastic toy soldiers too?
 
2013-01-22 09:34:35 AM
I am a video game owner. We will not take away your video games. I will never give up my Portal but nobody needs to own realistic military-type video games.
 
2013-01-22 09:35:08 AM
I thought this was bad because it diminished the trauma of child molesting but people won't shut up about that shiat lately
 
2013-01-22 09:36:30 AM
"All this is fine with the companies -- these boys and girls spent more than $25 billion last year, and what they got in return is violent, addictive, and tawdry sensuality," Nader wrote in his blog

"Come on," he continued, in an alternate universe where he had some sort of point. "Public-domain classic literature they can pick up in paperback at a used shop for half a buck or at a library for free will get them much more of all of those things for a tiny fraction of the price."

"Kids these days," he groused irritably, "no sense of cost-effectiveness."

He then proceeded to summarize the plot of Anna Karenina, which cannot be reproduced here because children sometimes read this website.
 
2013-01-22 09:38:51 AM

HeartBurnKid: Dr Dreidel: // I really though we'd moved past this 15 years ago when Marilyn Manson pwned the Columbine hysterics in Michael Moore's movie

We aren't going to move past this until the boomers are dead.


This isn't boomers, though. It's now gotten to the point where the Tipper Gores have retired (or are about to), and whatever Stepford Social Causers were under her wing are now running that show.

The fact that the thirtysomethings who are now running the show at video game companies are still being called to the White House in the aftermath of a tragedy that has more to do with the CEO of gun manufacturers than it does the CEO of video game companies, when those video game CEOs were in high school learning the MK blood code (ABACABB) and hearing some of the same people blame MK (or John Denver) for ruining young lives.

It's similarly astounding that no one remembers the faint echoes from the 1990s, the last time a wave of anti-media hysteria focused on sprites rather than shotguns.
 
2013-01-22 09:39:03 AM

Holocaust Agnostic: baka-san: Hey Ralphie boy, thanks to you, W got elected in 00

You might want to lie low for a bit, like the next 100 years.

1) run away from one of your parties most popular presidents
2) tell thee base to eat shiat
3 ) ???
4) get a job on the motivational speaker circuit


Stay buthurt forever donkeys.


Yeah, Al blew that election. It was his to win or lose. When he started pushing Bill away, I was floored. Why would you reject the most popular Democratic President of the last 50 years? Because the GOP said so?

Still, the nation suffered under Bush far more than anyone could have imagined in 2000. We're not likely to ever see such blatant incompetence and open war profiteering and blatant power grabs again for at least a century.

We've got Uncle Joe there to run in 2016 and a handful of up-and-comers waiting in the wings of the Democratic Party. As long as we stick with what works and stay on the offensive, the GOP is finished.
 
2013-01-22 09:41:00 AM

Jim_Callahan: "All this is fine with the companies -- these boys and girls spent more than $25 billion last year, and what they got in return is violent, addictive, and tawdry sensuality," Nader wrote in his blog


According to the ESA, the average video game player is THIRTY farkING YEARS OLD.This is the same bullshiat that comic books get despite putting out legitimately good, mature literature (yes, some graphic novels genuinely count as literature) over the last several decades.
 
2013-01-22 09:41:59 AM
a5.mzstatic.com

The real electronic child molester.
 
2013-01-22 09:42:50 AM
Video games are just a "tool" for entertainment. Don't blame the "tool".
 
2013-01-22 09:43:07 AM

Dr Dreidel: // I really though we'd moved past this 15 years ago when Marilyn Manson pwned the Columbine hysterics in Michael Moore's movie


That was about the best 10 seconds out of that whole movie. And really, the only 10 seconds that mattered. The movie should have ended after that.

/Matt & Trey were cool, too
 
2013-01-22 09:43:42 AM
Video games go into the same category as gun fetishes, junk food on every corner, gag-inducing reality TV, little kids with smartphones (and everything that brings with it), journalists who can't write coherent sentences, colleges that charge 200% more and educate 50% less, and a best-seller list full of diet and snake-oil "spiritual self-help" books. Among other things.

They're all here, none of them are going away, we worship them, so what's the point of talking about it. Regardless of how valid or invalid criticisms may be. "Video games are bad" so don't allow your 15-year-old to play even five minutes of Mario Brothers a week. "Video games are good" so let your four-year-old play GTA online unsupervised.

Yadda yadda yadda.
 
2013-01-22 09:45:57 AM

Bloody William: According to the ESA, the average video game player is THIRTY farkING YEARS OLD.


Reminds me of all the bemoaning after Sandy Hook about the lack of parental supervision of Adam Lanza, while at the same time ignoring the fact he was 20 years old - a legal adult for over 2 years. Those decrying video games still think of them as being played exclusively by teenage basement-dwellers, when in fact you're absolutely right: they're as mainstream as movies.
 
2013-01-22 09:45:58 AM

lordjupiter: Video games are just a "tool" for entertainment. Don't blame the "tool".


badhatharry: I am a video game owner. We will not take away your video games. I will never give up my Portal but nobody needs to own realistic military-type video games.


I'm generally neutral to anti-gun control in terms of banning and limitations on the consumer end, but these are asinine parallels.

Unless you're talking about strangling someone with an NES controller or bludgeoning them to death with a Neo-Geo, video games don't kill people. They don't penetrate, lacerate, burn, shock, or otherwise cause physical harm in any way. They were never intended to. It requires a vast and extreme off-direction use of physical media to cause harm.
 
2013-01-22 09:46:47 AM

HeartBurnKid: Lost Thought 00: Someone must have a new book coming out.

Nader represents everything that is wrong with the paternalistic left.

This is hardly a "left" thing, unless you think Wayne LaPierre is also "left".

This is a paternalistic, ignorant, attention-whoring asshat thing.


To be fair, the NRA's complaint (among a long list of complaints) is that violent media is being purposely served to a younger crowd and that no one is willing to look into the consequences for doing this.
People like Nader and Jack Thompson treat it as a forgone conclusion and want outright censorship.

Obama seems to have sided with the NRA in looking for more data, asking for greater parental attention to what their crotchfruit plays.
 
2013-01-22 09:47:14 AM

Dr Dreidel: HeartBurnKid: Dr Dreidel: // I really though we'd moved past this 15 years ago when Marilyn Manson pwned the Columbine hysterics in Michael Moore's movie

We aren't going to move past this until the boomers are dead.

This isn't boomers, though. It's now gotten to the point where the Tipper Gores have retired (or are about to), and whatever Stepford Social Causers were under her wing are now running that show.

The fact that the thirtysomethings who are now running the show at video game companies are still being called to the White House in the aftermath of a tragedy that has more to do with the CEO of gun manufacturers than it does the CEO of video game companies, when those video game CEOs were in high school learning the MK blood code (ABACABB) and hearing some of the same people blame MK (or John Denver) for ruining young lives.

It's similarly astounding that no one remembers the faint echoes from the 1990s, the last time a wave of anti-media hysteria focused on sprites rather than shotguns.


Every time someone makes an argument like this, someone should just link/show reports into how rock and roll (or, say Elvis or the Beatles or the Rolling Stones) were destroying society. Or maybe go back to the flappers in the 20s, just to make the point that this reasoning is eternal - "{insert thing that old people don't like because it wasn't popular/available when they were teenagers} is the key cause of crime and societal decay, and not {thing that has been around for much longer but old people grew up with but is actually potentially related to the problems}".
 
2013-01-22 09:47:22 AM

Kibbler: Video games go into the same category as gun fetishes, junk food on every corner, gag-inducing reality TV, little kids with smartphones (and everything that brings with it), journalists who can't write coherent sentences, colleges that charge 200% more and educate 50% less, and a best-seller list full of diet and snake-oil "spiritual self-help" books. Among other things.

They're all here, none of them are going away, we worship them, so what's the point of talking about it. Regardless of how valid or invalid criticisms may be. "Video games are bad" so don't allow your 15-year-old to play even five minutes of Mario Brothers a week. "Video games are good" so let your four-year-old play GTA online unsupervised.

Yadda yadda yadda.


You sound old.
 
2013-01-22 09:48:43 AM

badhatharry: I am a video game owner. We will not take away your video games. I will never give up my Portal but nobody needs to own realistic military-type video games.


+1
 
2013-01-22 09:49:12 AM
Dear Ralph,

NOT ALL VIDEO GAMES ARE MADE FOR CHILDREN, YOU COCK!

Hugs and Kisses.

ManateeGag
 
2013-01-22 09:52:23 AM

Bloody William: lordjupiter: Video games are just a "tool" for entertainment. Don't blame the "tool".

badhatharry: I am a video game owner. We will not take away your video games. I will never give up my Portal but nobody needs to own realistic military-type video games.

I'm generally neutral to anti-gun control in terms of banning and limitations on the consumer end, but these are asinine parallels.

Unless you're talking about strangling someone with an NES controller or bludgeoning them to death with a Neo-Geo, video games don't kill people. They don't penetrate, lacerate, burn, shock, or otherwise cause physical harm in any way. They were never intended to. It requires a vast and extreme off-direction use of physical media to cause harm.


Video games don't shock people? You certainly haven't spent enough time in run down arcades.
 
2013-01-22 09:52:55 AM
the sad thing is that he is partially right. video games are extremely violent and they do glamorize gun violence and desensitize people. but of course, those games are all rated for adults only, so kids shouldn't be playing them in the first place. if lazy parents are letting their children play grand theft auto and call of duty, then maybe the parents are the problem. i'm an adult, and if i want to play a graphically violent video game, then i should be allowed to. don't blame the behavior of children on products meant for adults.
 
2013-01-22 09:54:04 AM

Bloody William: lordjupiter: Video games are just a "tool" for entertainment. Don't blame the "tool".

badhatharry: I am a video game owner. We will not take away your video games. I will never give up my Portal but nobody needs to own realistic military-type video games.

I'm generally neutral to anti-gun control in terms of banning and limitations on the consumer end, but these are asinine parallels.

Unless you're talking about strangling someone with an NES controller or bludgeoning them to death with a Neo-Geo, video games don't kill people. They don't penetrate, lacerate, burn, shock, or otherwise cause physical harm in any way. They were never intended to. It requires a vast and extreme off-direction use of physical media to cause harm.


ISWYDT??

The rate of killings per gun is probably hundreds of times higher than killings per video game copy!!! Even if video games were killing people, they would be statistically irrelevant compared to guns, based on gun derper logic.
 
2013-01-22 09:54:38 AM

Bloody William: otherwise cause physical harm in any way


I guess you have never had a bad case of nintendo tumb.
 
2013-01-22 09:54:49 AM
Hey, Ralph...you know who else consumes a ton of violent media and video games? Japan, S. Korea, Australia, Western and Northern Europe...ie. the rest of the developed world.

None of those places have big problems with gun violence. All of those places have sensible gun control measures.

Sorry, Ralph. Video games are not the problem. Guns are the problem. Video games are a red herring.
 
2013-01-22 09:55:25 AM

way south: HeartBurnKid: Lost Thought 00: Someone must have a new book coming out.

Nader represents everything that is wrong with the paternalistic left.

This is hardly a "left" thing, unless you think Wayne LaPierre is also "left".

This is a paternalistic, ignorant, attention-whoring asshat thing.

To be fair, the NRA's complaint (among a long list of complaints) is that violent media is being purposely served to a younger crowd and that no one is willing to look into the consequences for doing this.
People like Nader and Jack Thompson treat it as a forgone conclusion and want outright censorship.

Obama seems to have sided with the NRA in looking for more data, asking for greater parental attention to what their crotchfruit plays.


No, the NRA's complaint is that too many people are blaming guns for the mass shooting and they need to change the subject quickly.

And if it's just a matter of parental control and consequences, then where's the similar scrutiny for movies, TV, and literature? This is about scapegoating, pure and simple.
 
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