Ishkur: It's like you're knowledgeable and ignorant at the same time.How on Earth do you do that?
Suckmaster Burstingfoam: What's Skrillex? Is that like digital hardcore?
JungleBoogie: 1) Herbie Hancock - Rockit2) Newcleus - Jam On It3) Art of Noise - ParanoimiaBut take that, separate and isolate the melodic portions from the discordant portions and voila - dubstep.Dubstep:1) Pumped Up Kicks, dubstepped
JungleBoogie: Seems kind of reminiscent of the 80's techno music scene:1) Herbie Hancock - Rockit2) Newcleus - Jam On It3) Art of Noise - ParanoimiaBut take that, separate and isolate the melodic portions from the discordant portions and voila - dubstep.Dubstep:1) Pumped Up Kicks, dubstepped2) (Note: very loud): Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites, SkrillexAnd there seem to be various sub-flavors of dubstep, per the above links.
blue_2501: theMightyRegeya: I don't like dubstep, but I'm willing to bet some of the people here dissing it were fans of this:[images.theage.com.au image 420x279]If you're going to go Aphex Twin on the thread, f**king do it ALL THE WAY![www.artrocker.tv image 300x300][2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300][i.ytimg.com image 480x360][reinspired.files.wordpress.com image 320x240][www.romston.com image 640x384]/Chris Cunningham is a goddamn evil genius//anybody who disagrees with me should be beaten by a bunch of pint-size kids
theMightyRegeya: I don't like dubstep, but I'm willing to bet some of the people here dissing it were fans of this:[images.theage.com.au image 420x279]
uttertosh: Ishkur: It's like you're knowledgeable and ignorant at the same time.How on Earth do you do that?It's a surprisingly easy mix of ADD and being heavily anti-scenester. (I don't have the attention span to be bothered with the history of the scene, and I find people, who 'dork to the max' over the finest of magazine-article-fabricated historical nuances of the scene, to be utter bores with very little to add to my already overcrowded train of thought. I enjoy very much indeed parodying that persona at parties, falsely correcting peoples scenester-babble-rants, usually much to the amusement of others, though seldom to the scenester.You talk with the magazine-educated wordage of the seasoned scenester. I genuinely have the image of you being a scene magazine article writer. For you are the Guardian of Music Historical Fact.When I play, I avoid guys like you at all costs. All you want to do is talk about monologue on the scene. All I do is write the techbubbleprogtosh that I, me, want to dance to. I occasionally play some in front of other people in exchange for some k, beer and weed. My techbubbleprogtosh has many roots, none of which I actively applied. No deeper layers, just the techbubbleprogtosh that gets brainfarted through my current setup. Some people dance to it. No you can't get a copy. Not yours.
StrangeQ: Have you stopped and listened to yourself lately?
Ishkur: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: DP is an old friend from the previous decades for me. When i was nubile and wore a lot of leather I also loved me some harder dance beats like Front 242, Ministry and more techie stuff in the genre of Kraftwerk...guess its my age slipping in.Shoulda told me this earlier. I have tons of oldskool EBM and Belgian New Beat. Bigod 20, Nitzer Ebb, Blancmange, Skinny Puppy, Voltage Control, KMFDM, Art of Noise, Frontline Assembly, Apoptygma Bezerk, Cubanate, Hate Dept., Wumpscutt, Acumen Nation, Haujobb, Die Krupps, Icon of Coil, Public Relations, Force Legato, Matrixx, Clan of Xymox, Lords of Acid, Amnesia, Umo Detic, Tribe 22, Assemblage 23, The Overlords, VNV Nation.... off the top of my head.(that should keep you busy)
DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Chicane, Balligomingo, daft punk, Autechre, some Orb, Beaumont Hannant ( but not a big Husik fan), Bill Laswell of most types, Talvin Singh, Balil, some Red Cell...you mentioned IDM up there, I guess I'm generally an IDM/ambient/trance fan.
DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Insurgent: Pearson Sound vs Rod Lee - Let Me See What U Workin With (Refix)that one is sure to piss yr parents off.Sounds to me like the musical equivalent of antiperspirant ...dry and squidgy
Ishkur: Insurgent: i'm a big fan of disco and french house.my alma mater. It's gotta have a groove, it's gotta be funky. I think that's one of the things that's so offensive about dubstep -- it's the most flat, uninteresting, unfunky cracker-ass cracker music to ever be sequenced.
Ishkur: uttertosh: then you know sweet fark all about dubstep. Next.Dubstep came from the UK Garage scene. It's direct antecedent was 2-step. In the early period they called it dark garage..... it had a lot of bass, and yes, a lot of wub (hence the name, though it didn't directly have anything to do with Jamaican dub proper, it's like a step-cousin). It was a rubbery liquid sound that seemed to really find favor with users of disassociatives, especially Ketamine (it makes your legs rubbery, which is perfect for that kind of music).After about 2006 it started picking up influences (and a lot of influences came from dubstep -- for instance, grime), the most direct influence coming from Ed Bangar-style filthy, glitchy squealing electro house (which was spawned off of early 00s Swedish House), and Tiger Beat Records style Glitch house cf. Kid606 which was ONLY popular because Vice Magazine wrote about it a lot so all their shows kept attracting an unhealthy clientele of hipsters.Around about 2008, these twin forces -- glitch and electro house -- grabbed dubstep, dragged it behind an alleyway and violently anal raped it no less than 23 times. In the process, Dubstep dropped the bass, jacked up the mid range (primarily because most people's listening devices are earbuds or crappy laptop speakers so what's the point delivering bass they can't hear), kept the wub but applied it to screeching, squelching synth lines and this attracted the unsavory frathouse crowd who were already into the electro stuff anyway....and before long they were calling this mutant offspring "brostep" which is, in no uncertain terms, absolutely hideous. And then Skrillex comes along, harkening the death of dubstep, at least in the underground.There. Now fark off and stop polluting the threat with your ignorant drivel.
dynomutt: Oh, don't be so hard on Screechex/I still haven't figured out the deal with numbers in the names though... Dead-maw-five?
lolpix: Skrillex is new school dubstep. It involves a lot of high pitch screeching and some wub wub wub.
uttertosh: then you know sweet fark all about dubstep. Next.
drateR: Listening to different beats on your website. I still think it's under the same umbrella, but whatever. Enjoying your site btw.
TheHumanCannonball: After living in NL for two years, there's something... different about society and music tastes there. I'm not sure what, but what works there in terms of predictive characteristics from music taste, I'm not sure would work in the USA.
drateR: I guess that depends on how much you want to explain the differences.
drateR: If there really is any.
drateR: I kinda think all are under the umbrella of "techno", but I'm old.
Haliburton Cummings: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: What's Skrillex? Is that like digital hardcore?it's the sound an accountants farts make while he/she/it is wrapping chicken in tinfoil.also the main ingredient in crap brand hipster sauce.not to be confused with "skreeeeeeeeeeeeet!"
Bedstead Polisher: Ok. I have to ask. There are 12 year olds that listen to jazz???
Dedmon: Say what you will, but tell me this isn't a beautiful piece of music. LinkIt's one of Skrillex's song transcribed and played on piano. It gave me pause, and I realize it's not all random sounds thrown together. Do listen to the link.
jtown: I wish I could find that strip where Calvin is playing Easy Listening music on his record player while his parents are retching in the background. "I play it real quiet, too."
AverageAmericanGuy: If it's too loud, you're too old.Skrillex isn't for you to sit down and relax to. It's to get your body moving on the dance floor. He's a genius at his craft.
AverageAmericanGuy: Skrillex isn't for you to sit down and relax to. It's to get your body moving on the dance floor. He's a genius at his craft.
HotWingAgenda: When I was in high school, the people that listened to the loudest, most obnoxious and rebellious music were the metalheads and goths. And they were all extremely quiet and polite when not at concerts.All the adults I know that listen to metal are super mild-mannered with successful careers and families.
AverageAmericanGuy: If it's too loud, you're too old.Skrillex isn't for you to sit down and relax to. It's to get your body moving on the dance floor. He's a genius at his craft untalented douche.
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